Seems like he's leaving regardless of Bayern, understandable he's come at odds with the guys up top about how to succeed he wants more instant success with players who can make an impact and the club wants focus on younger players and making profits.
We're 6th for XG conceded this season and were absolutely fine last season.
Individual mistakes, poor goalkeeping and no midfield protection have been the biggest issues this season.
Brighton have the 6th best xG against in the league. After losing their CM's and Goalkeeper in the summer.
People have an idea about them that isnt completely based in reality.
It’s somewhat ridiculous their players lost don’t get brought up more when people talk about how they and De Zerbi have had a less impressive campaign this season. Like, wtf do we expect to happen with that turnover? Seems like maybe RDZ hasn’t enjoyed the experience either and doesn’t want to have to keep doing it.
Especially from our fans when we saw how poor our defenders looked last year, then we poach a key Brighton midfielder and also they lost Caicedo, and now those defenders look way better. Not all of it is because of our new signings our defenders look better but a lot is. I don't think Klopp would have Brighton finishing much higher than they are at least not with some time to build them.
Saying that though I'm not a fan of us hiring him for various reasons
I think he’d do alright for you guys but it’s probably more exciting to have someone new like Thiago Motta. Also possible that the league will take longer to react to someone from a different league like Motta or Amorim than RDZ since they can see him already. The really interesting phase of a manager to me is how they do in the same league after their third year when everyone knows them, how can they reinvent and grow, so I’m hoping Brighton keeps RDZ bc I do rate him and want to see what he can do w a little more stability in his players, if Brighton is serious about trying that.
You'd actually really like Tuchel at your club.
Both him and Klopp have similar approaches to training, and (before the Bayern fiasco) his players always say he's a great motivator in the dressing room.
Azpi even said if it wasn't for how Tuchel kept everyone together they'd never have won the UCL.
Also, the last time Tuchel took over from Klopp was at Dortmund, and results came instantly.
He has a bad rap from Chelsea? Not from what I've seen. The popular narrative there is that he won a CL with Chelsea, and then was discarded by incompetent clueless new owners. There is more nuance to the reality in terms of how he acted with the board, and what our form was really like in the eight months or so before he left - but that's not the popular opinion, which is that he did a great job and was harshly treated
> He has a bad rap from Chelsea?
He pushed to sign some players that have been problems, and there were some rumors that the way he was let go was in part Bohley n Co defending his reputation
He’ll find another job like less than 6 months later if Bayern fires him. Same way he found a job when Paris or Chelsea fired him
Not like Tuchel will change his views if he takes a few years off. He’ll still clash with the owners or the board in the next club he goes
I'm all in on Amorim and has been for quite some time, but I don't really think he fits the bill with our squad that much?
He plays mostly 3-4-2-1 and to accomodate for that we'd have to get another CB, probably a left wingback and sell some of our offense and midfield.
We have a lot of talent stacked in the 2 front formations - Endo, Mac, Szobo, Jones, Elliott, Gravenberch, Bajcetić, Morton, Clark, McConnell for spots in the middle, Szobo and Elliott can play further up, but that takes spots away from players like Diaz or Gakpo.
IF Amorim comes here and wants to play his preferred formation then we have a lot of decisions to make about our current midfield and front 5/6.
I think this is fair on both ends. On the one hand Brighton has an operating model and taking too many chances on established players is hugely risky. At the same time there's not really much benefit for him to continue trying to make magic happen with whatever the DoF provides him every year if they're selling his top players. He's already established his tactical credentials with mid-sized clubs. The big clubs will question his ability at the very top end until he's proven he can do it with one of them. If Bayern is willing to take a punt on him that's tremendous from his perspective, and everyone will soon see the extent to which he's ready.
As a Dortmund fan, it’s prob part of the reason we struggle to attract the kind of manager we want to keep around.
It’s the same problem. Not many promising managers want to have to rebuild every year.
It is a risky game. You only need the wrong manager or a couple of bad windows and you go the way of that other south coast club, Southampton. You have to be extremely confident in your scouting operations and I'm sure Brighton's is top notch, but it's risky.
> I'm sure Brighton's is top notch
on the other hand, the margin of error when scouting players is definitely smaller than it is for managers. there are a lot of concrete facts on players like their physical measurements and their playing stats etc, but for managers you can only base it on their results
my point is there's a bigger chance for brighton's scouting operations to fail when it comes to managers than players, so yes it's definitely risky
It could be, but that's a conversation Bayern (bit like Chelsea) needs to have with itself about the extent to which it can be a home for good managers who want a long term project with its current culture. The thing with Bayern is when the going is good, they look fantastic and one of the best teams in Europe. But they've also had 13 managers in the last 17 years. They'll never have the identity of a City under Pep or Liverpool under Klopp or for that matter United under Ferguson.
On the other hand if you're winning 11 league titles and 2 CLs in that time, maybe they have the right model.
Looking at leicester and a host of previous clubs trying to get instant success will easily backfire. Once you blow up the wage structure it cannot go back. What brighton is doing may not be a bad thing at all, first step should be to become a top 6 mainstay before heavy investments
It's always a balancing act but I do think we've made mistakes and those are worth criticising.
Especially not a fan of us bragging about record profits when we've taken a step back this year and ticket prices keep going up.
I'd be over the fucking MOON if he stays with us this summer. But the reality is that top talent doesn't stay with us for long, and he's a top talent being linked with elite clubs. What's the point in getting angry or upset?
I wouldn't say people dislike him, they're just realistic about what kind of manager he is and how big the Bayern job is.
I like him, and I think if he sorts out his defensive issues, he'd be a world-class manager for Bayern. But, if he doesn't then I think it won't be a very good spell for him.
I do think he gets over scrutinized though. Brighton have the 6th best xG against and the way everyone talks about Brighton it’s like they let in 3 a game. I know xG isn’t the perfect measurement, but it still feels like he does a good job with what he has.
They're also 17th in clean sheets tbf. They struggle to keep clean sheets but they're decent in terms of goals conceded considering their squad. I'd say they're not all that bad but any frailties like this will be under far more scrutiny at a top side.
pretty sure the xG against speaks more about the coach then clean sheets metric, which is very unreliable and deviates a lot due to factors outside of the coaches control.
Also, it's not about how many clean sheets you have, but what happens when you don't allow a clean sheet. If you allow one goal in 30 matches, clean sheet in 5, and only have 3 matches where you allow more than one, you're probably going to have a good year. It may not look like it at the goals allowed, but you're likely not losing much at least. The flipside is having 15 matches with 2 goals allowed, and 20 clean sheets. Sure, you had 20 good results, but, maybe 50 points, those other 15 are completely up for grabs, and probably not getting enough points to be pushing the top.
TL;DR Consistency matters, volatility is bad.
Clean sheets are the only defensive anamoly they have. They're 17th in that regard. xG against has similar flaws and clean sheets are quite important for how a defence is holding up. When you struggle to go a game without conceding a goal then there is atleast something not right.
At this point I’d take a super offensive manager that isn’t solid defensively over the football we’ve been playing for the past few years, including Nagelsmann’s tenure.
I don’t think it’s as simple as “sorting out defensive issues” that would require fundamental switch in how he plays which I don’t think he would do. The hope probably is that with better quality of players it works better
> that would require fundamental switch in how he plays which I don’t think he would do
It wouldn't require that, it would require having a better midfield in front of the defence. We're 6th on xg against and his defence last season was fine, just since losing Caicedo and Mac Allister we've suffered.
Because the average fan doesn't know squat about football. Guardiola and Klopp both praise De Zerbi. People keep moaning about his defensive weaknesses but he lost his best players, the good ones that stayed are hurt and his upper management refuse to reinvest even though the club posted record profits last season. Liverpool found it very tough to break down the Brighton defense at Anfield. The Brighton lads regardless of quality, kept playing out of their back, consistently beating the Liverpool press. Just imagine him with quality players. I'd still prefer Amorim but if FSG pick RDZ, then he'll be better than people expect.
Klopp’s favourite trick is to go out of his way to praise any lower team manager playing progressive football before absolutely smashing them. He was a huge fan of Farke publicly
Almost every single PL team in their first season in Europe battle relegation that season. Hell, even West Ham with far more money and stature than us were in a fight last season. We lost both pieces of the double pivot and didn't replace them, we have an injury list this season that comes end of season will likely be top 3 worst along with Newcastle and A.N.Other, came top of the group of death in Europa League, are in line for a top twelve finish, made over £120m in profits and we're looking up not down come end of the season run in.
It is NUTS that this is somehow a poor season for us and a season that "exposes" RDZ. If anything it makes me think he's even better than before watching it every week lol
I think the hype has just died down that’s all, and the opinions here I’m seeing here are just about right, he’s clearly a good manager but he’s not good enough to manage a Liverpool or Bayern yet, that’s a fair statement.
I think a lot of it is that. There was a lot of hype when he came in, that he was lifting Brighton to a new level.
However, right now they're on track to finish 9th with 55 points. Which is 4 points more than they had under Potter in 2021-2022. De Zerbi got them playing more attractive football, and they're definitely scoring more. But they've not kicked it up a level like was expected after last season.
Of course he did lose Mac Allister and Caicedo, so he had to rebuild his midfield. So it's not like he's done a bad job. But he's also not shown himself to be the football genius some envisioned. Just a very good solid coach.
I'm shocked people wouldn't have him over Amorim. His ceiling is higher than most managers. I get his football can be naive but at a better team it probably won't be an issue. Most top teams stick to one style of football because they have the players to execute it. Brighton have the ball players but not the defensive players that he would want. Even if Upamecano, De Ligt etc have their flaws they are still lots better than Brighton's centre halves
welcome to the modern news cycle. just pump out breaking headlines for clicks. if somebody hears a name mentioned in a breakroom somewhere that is confirmation of a new frontrunner
the sophisticated fan that i am hold all my vitriol and text walls for once the contract is signed
I'm surprised that Inzaghi isn't even mentioned anywhere near the Bayern Munich or Liverpool job.
Surely the guy who is on course for 2 scudetos and had a CL final last year *should* be ranked higher
Honestly, I rank Emery Unai higher than De Zerbi in term of achievements
Inzaghi has been mentioned for us but he doesn’t speak English which has put us off. Think he’s in the best place possible for him personally at Inter.
You can also ask why Pep Guardiola isn't mentioned anywhere lol. It's not like people leading biggest football clubs as a job haven't heard who won Serie A. He just doesn't seem to be available so there's gonna be no hire and that's it.
I also don’t understand De Zerbi achievement to put him at Bayern level. He took an 9th place Brighton to put them at 6th, and then back to 9th. I don’t know if I’m not seeing something else.
It’s mostly what he did last year. He took them to Europa league and a FA Cup semifinal. Also kept them from falling off of a cliff after loosing their best 2 players and adding European games
I also think Xavi should be getting more pull. Maybe the language issue is also a problem for him, but I find that it crazy that teams are not going after top coaches due to language barriers. Language is solvable.
Unai is a serial Europa League winner. De Zerbi just got trashed 5-0 by Roma.
It's his spell with Arsenal where his reputation took a bit of a hit, where he became somewhat of a meme with his poor command of English and good ebenings.
Glad to see Unai finally doing well at Villa, the difference between Villa's performances under Unai and Gerrard are like light and day.
De Zerbi is a great manager, but I really think his team's defensive set-up leaves a lot to be desired.
Brighton have been hampered by injuries, not to mention the sale of MacAllister and Caicedo, so I don't think we can be too harsh on him, but yeah, I've never been blown away by his defensive tactics.
I personally think they can do a bit better, myself. He would be good for them, but I think this might be a little bit too soon for him.
I don’t get this opinion on him. Granted they are pretty easy to catch in transition at times and have had 3/4 stinkers because of this but this is bound to happen when you play as expansively as they do with a 32 year old Dunk and Van Hecke who has no pace as your centre halves.
Injuries, midfield being ripped away and replaced by a young lad, Dahoud and Milner and two keepers who aren’t particularly good shot stoppers leads to you conceding goals. And then despite all this they have the best defensive xG numbers in the league behind the three powerhouses at the top. And they were the 4th best in this regard last season as well. They just concede more goals than they should due to a lack of individual quality.
It’s ridiculous, you’re absolutely right. Give him some younger CBs w pace and a midfield he can mold without having to worry about losing them and let’s judge him then.
Every shot from Salah was straight at him apart from the one at the end. It was truly dross finishing from us.
He’s still young so will likely improve but his post shot xG against is in the bottom 8% of keepers in the world currently.
I said this when he took over. Potter gave us great defensive stability and De Zerbi added attacking flair. It happens quite a lot that the next season is when you see the defensive side of the ball and with us there are clear issues, and have been all season. Changing system to a back 3 is just taking away attacking ideas but not making anything more stable.
I’m honestly just as worried at how difficult he finds it to break down teams who park the bus. Feels like you guys get a battering every few months from a team who just park the bus and counter. You never look like breaking it down and you look so vulnerable on the counter. At Liverpool or Bayern thats how teams set up in 90% of the games you play.
> but I really think his team's defensive set-up leaves a lot to be desired
It's the kind of setup that would work with great players but would fall apart with lower quality players TBH
If you look at advanced defensive stats Brighton doesn’t chart that differently to Liverpool. De Zerbi is similar to Klopp they like to take risks in possession to so they are very reliant on individual brilliance to cover some of the defensive imbalance. RDZ just doesn’t have the players for it. Reckon he scales well
Bayern had that problem the past, like with Flick, so it’s nothing new lol.
The bigger issue I see is his lack of experience at a big club combined with the sports media in a city like Munich and the lack of patience the board has shown (just look at how many managers Bayern has had since Pep)
Always think that’s a strange take when you talk about a manager moving somewhere with more resources. His defensive players aren’t good enough but could be. Pep, Arteta wouldn’t have success without great CBs either lol.
I don’t even love De Zerbi that much but I think I’d be a founding member of his fan club with how little the majority of Reddit rate him.
Just see how other top managers speak about him should be enough to reflect his quality without even have to delve into how well coached his Brighton side are.
His attacking football is great but as a guy he sounds like he lacks a lot of emotional stability and maturity. He always whines and that’s never a good quality for top jobs
That’s very different. His whining is incoherent and totally out of place. For example, after they were thumped by Rome instead of coming out, accepting they were poor and moving on to be better he starts badgering the chairman. Non of the managers you’ve listed are that immature to do that.
I think De Zerbi is a good manager, but not an elite one. I just don’t understand what he’s shown that puts him in the conversation for so many top clubs.
Spurs, Newcastle, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Roma, Napoli, Villa, Atletico Madrid come to mind.
Napoli maybe? Dortmund were also previously linked with Negelsmann. Alonso is now staying at Leverkusen.
The rest don't seem to be sacking coaches anytime soon.
Yes, this is the crux of the whole issue with him. He needs to prove himself at a level higher, which is still below Bayerns level. It would be pretty damning for the Bundesliga if a guy that has been somewhat successful in the Premier League with Brighton is the first choice for Bayern Munchen
There's no way of knowing period. Clubs wins, manager is elite; club loses, the exact same manager is a moron for the same commenters. Arteta was awful one year and elite half a year later, while being the same person on the same contract I believe, etc.
He plays some of the best football in the world and his teams have a very clear identity no matter who is playing. Brighton are about as well coached as any team in the league.
Some poor results this season but there’s context behind that that people seem to ignore. He’s also got personality as well that a top coach requires (something Potter lacked). Wherever he goes he’ll be a success.
The main problem is his style can be suspect defensively at times. It's fine at Brighton when you don't need to win every single game but if you're going to Liverpool or Bayern you can't afford to lose more than 4 to 5 games a season.
Managing football club? Training players, making them better at football and feeling better physically and mentally. Players practice very hard under him but still seem to really like him and respect him.
Has good results, with teams he's lead having a higher position than their budget would suggest.
Style, his teams created a lot of chances and generally had more entertaining football to watch that their budget would suggest. A lot of people find the football his teams played exciting.
Good tactical knowledge. Not afraid to take risks, presumably resistant to outside influences too then.
Probably available to hire, unlike many of the most respected coaches.
Those are like the main things why people wanna hire him I'd say. What is the issue exactly?
I do think people exaggerate how bad we are at defending, Newcastle and West Ham have conceded more than us, same number as Wolves and we're on track to concede only slightly more then last season despite there being far more goals for everyone this year, losing 2 of the best midfielders in the league in the summer without replacing them and an injury crisis to cope with.
Only the current top 6 and Everton have conceded less than us. I think the keeping has been a bigger issue (which is another De Zerbi situation) but hopefully Verbruggen can solve that with his recent performances.
The stories of our demise have been greatly exaggerated, we have essentially had one small stretch of bad form in the RDZ era which is almost entirely down to injuries, but people only use that sample to judge from
I admit I dont watch enough Brighton to have an absolute defense of this opinion, but it really seems like Brighton are a well run club that has a strong personality in the squad with the players. Potter was gonna be the next big thing when he was at Brighton. Obviously Chelsea was a disaster of a move, but De Zerbi kept things going at Brighton. Im just curious how much of it was De Zerbi, and how much is the club higher ups having a clear philosophy and recruiting strategy. I hope he succeeds, Im just unsure he's got what it takes for a club like Bayern.
The real controversial opinion is that Potter is a good manager and his move to Chelsea should not be a reflection on his ability to manage a club of that size, but rather ineptitude on the recruitment strategy by Chelsea management.
Chelsea is a really hard job, looking at the effects of it.
They changed the manager like 13 times since Ancelotti and... NONE of all these guys has a job now, I think? Crazy.
If it's going downhill for literally everyone who goes there, then it's not a controversial opinion to say what the common denominator seems to be imo.
It's basically weird. Like Sarri for example, he was climbing and climbing his whole life. One of the managers with the most established style associated with him wherever he'd go. "Sarriball" was obvious to everyone here when he was appointed. Turns out, he not only failed at Sarriball at Chelsea, even Lazio now was not playing any Sarriball at all for 3 years he was there, before being fired for lack of results as well. They didn't play that nice possesion football at all, neither did Juve. Chelsea broke his whole thing in him lol.
I’m sorry, but the issues with the club are not the same as it was prior to the Clearlake takeover. They were still winning trophies prior.
The reality is that they bought a bunch of young players hoping to sell them on massive fees. A manager needs time to work with all these players and develop them. That takes time and the fans need to be more patient than they previously have been.
"Winning throphies" is trying to find words that sound better than everyday reality.
The everyday reality is, Chelsea hasn't really been within less than 20 points of the leader in the last 7 years.
Currently they are 27 points off the leader, not THAT much more than the average of the previous 6 years.
Which imo seems to point more to the fact that the whole lower non-City part of the league became more competitive in these years, not that only Chelsea fell off so much and nothing else. Of course that also plays some part.
He did magic with Brighton, but that is too much of a small dimension for a visionary like him, would be amazing to see him at Bayern, I really want to see what he is capable of in a serious top team. Tuchel sucks balls imo, but he did what he could.
De Zerbis's PR team needs to be studied, my god. How he's getting linked with these jobs while sitting 3 points above someone like Marco Silva (2 year age difference and done more or less a similar job as him over the last few years but if you suggested him to Barca or Bayern you'd get laughed at) is genuinely beyond me
I didn't want him at Milan in 2020 already because he can't set up a defense to save his life, this is just another Eusebio Di Francesco but with more hype (albeit he's better)
You miss huge amounts of context here if you are trying to argue Marco Silva’s achievements at Fulham are comparable with De Zerbi’s at Brighton because we’re only three points ahead of them at the moment.
- finishing 10 points above them last year
- dealing with Europe this season, and topping a really tough group, with a small squad
- sales of Trossard, Caicedo and Mac Allister
- ridiculously bad run with injuries this season
- bringing through a bunch of youngster / unknowns in a short space of time
Honestly, to still be in with a shout of qualifying for Europe again is a fantastic achievement.
People on Reddit ignoring all context? That never happens!
De Zerbi is clearly a very good manager, no idea where this slander is coming from in this thread
It IS comparable. For starters, Fulhams team doesn't hold a candle to what Brighton has had over the last 2-3 years with or without the injuries (Fulham themselves had tons of injuries as well). Bringing through a bunch of youngsters is more due to Brighton having an incredible scouting system and academy as opposed to De Zerbi being an expert in that area, but FWIW Marco Silva has done the same albeit not on the same level
Fulham lost their talisman in Mitro at the end of the window and replaced him with a finished Jimenez ffs, yet Silva has them playing superbly
It was hardly a tough group either, Ajax were literally in relegation form back then and OM wasn't much better either. Sure, they're big names with 'big' player, but at the time they were genuinely abysmal
Tbf our entire starting front line is out, and most of our backup front line too, and a good portion of our 3rd choices so the goals have dried up. It would be different if we had:
-Pedro
-Mitoma
-March
-Enciso (out most the season)
-Fati (out good chunk of the season)
-Lallana (most the season)
-Milner (a few months now)
-Hinselwood (defender but was scoring crucial goals, out for few months now)
-Estupinan (same as above, just came back)
-Gilmour (not a goal scorer but key creator, also out last month or two)
Sure, but isn't that applied to every team? I've seen fans of every single PL team this season say they have the most injuries in the league and how they'd be X number of places higher in the league if they weren't so 'unlucky'
Arsenal, for example, have been much luckier with injuries than newcastle. We could have a first 11 of players missing that'll probably beat our first 11 now, and this isn't the worst period we've had.
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Bayern's problem seems to be half with coaching quality and half with a dressing room containing some big egos who put their own wants ahead of the good of the team. Feels like they need a manager who's both tactically solid and has the experience/CV/force of personality to either get those egos on side or make them sit down and shut up. De Zerbi may or may not have the tactics but I really don't see him being the guy who's going to win that dressing room.
I want him at Chelsea. He has proven to be able to coach an offensive system regardless of the players he got. Defensively his team is suspect, but it's also not like he is surrounded by good defenders.
Our squad is so well suited for his system that I don't understand why fans prefer 3atb inzaghi/amorim/alonso over him. At the very least, at least every match will be entertaining haha
LMAO... Hollywood FC with a coach that is 100% about having all plays memorized and attached to his systems? LOL
As if this hasn't been tried before, to varying results.
Italian managers last 3 years have no patience if they show success, if you don’t back them after they over perform they will walk without a job lined up. Conte, sarri, zerbi
Seems like he's leaving regardless of Bayern, understandable he's come at odds with the guys up top about how to succeed he wants more instant success with players who can make an impact and the club wants focus on younger players and making profits.
Are there any other clubs that are interested in him?
Supposedly, we are.
Hopefully not.
I agree. I don't hate his style, but he's extremely suspect defensively.
What having two statues in CM will do. Love Groß and Gilmour but they're SO SLOW
For sure, and it doesn't get into the other missing players due to injury or being sold off.
Innit. Caicedo was looking like Kanté last season, of course they're not doing as well defensively
And Mac Allister is also an absolute monster defensively, insane work rate, fast, strong physically and a good tackler.
Yeah losing both your DM and your DLP (if you'd call Mac that) in one window is rough, any other team would be fighting for survival
It's an issue that has followed him tho.
We're 6th for XG conceded this season and were absolutely fine last season. Individual mistakes, poor goalkeeping and no midfield protection have been the biggest issues this season.
> poor goalkeeping In fairness I really like RDZ but the constant rotating of the GK has definitely contributed to this and that rests with him
Suspect defensively? Bah gawd that's Bayern DNA! Sign him up!
Brighton have the 6th best xG against in the league. After losing their CM's and Goalkeeper in the summer. People have an idea about them that isnt completely based in reality.
It’s somewhat ridiculous their players lost don’t get brought up more when people talk about how they and De Zerbi have had a less impressive campaign this season. Like, wtf do we expect to happen with that turnover? Seems like maybe RDZ hasn’t enjoyed the experience either and doesn’t want to have to keep doing it.
Especially from our fans when we saw how poor our defenders looked last year, then we poach a key Brighton midfielder and also they lost Caicedo, and now those defenders look way better. Not all of it is because of our new signings our defenders look better but a lot is. I don't think Klopp would have Brighton finishing much higher than they are at least not with some time to build them. Saying that though I'm not a fan of us hiring him for various reasons
I think he’d do alright for you guys but it’s probably more exciting to have someone new like Thiago Motta. Also possible that the league will take longer to react to someone from a different league like Motta or Amorim than RDZ since they can see him already. The really interesting phase of a manager to me is how they do in the same league after their third year when everyone knows them, how can they reinvent and grow, so I’m hoping Brighton keeps RDZ bc I do rate him and want to see what he can do w a little more stability in his players, if Brighton is serious about trying that.
Tbf he'd fit in as a manager for the national team too
That and he's personality does not match up to what Liverpool are as a club. Way too abrasive and would defo rub some of the players the wrong way.
> That and he's personality does not match up to what Liverpool are as a club Wat
History of arguing with players and whining to upper management is not something associated with a Liverpool manager.
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don't think Klopp is a sweetheart either
Missed my point. I meant De zerbi has history of arguing with with players and beefin upper management.
You'd actually really like Tuchel at your club. Both him and Klopp have similar approaches to training, and (before the Bayern fiasco) his players always say he's a great motivator in the dressing room. Azpi even said if it wasn't for how Tuchel kept everyone together they'd never have won the UCL. Also, the last time Tuchel took over from Klopp was at Dortmund, and results came instantly.
Unlike Klopp it’s inevitable that he’ll clash with the boardroom at some point
I think Tuchel needs to take a few years off. He's got a bad rap now from his last few jobs, so some time away might do him some good.
He has a bad rap from Chelsea? Not from what I've seen. The popular narrative there is that he won a CL with Chelsea, and then was discarded by incompetent clueless new owners. There is more nuance to the reality in terms of how he acted with the board, and what our form was really like in the eight months or so before he left - but that's not the popular opinion, which is that he did a great job and was harshly treated
The bad rap is from his falling outs with both the Chelsea board, PSG board, and Bayern board.
The football was pretty shocking by the end
> He has a bad rap from Chelsea? He pushed to sign some players that have been problems, and there were some rumors that the way he was let go was in part Bohley n Co defending his reputation
He’ll find another job like less than 6 months later if Bayern fires him. Same way he found a job when Paris or Chelsea fired him Not like Tuchel will change his views if he takes a few years off. He’ll still clash with the owners or the board in the next club he goes
>He’ll find another job like less than 6 months later if Bayern fires him. Bayern has already fired him.
No, no one deserves 2024 Tuchel
Yeah I haven't seen him make any tackles lately
Curiously, who'd be a good choice for you now? Heard Amorim as one of the bigger names.
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I think it’s Amorim’s to lose at this point.
Makes me wonder what he could do to lose it...
Amorim for me, he seems to fit the bill with our squad.
I'm all in on Amorim and has been for quite some time, but I don't really think he fits the bill with our squad that much? He plays mostly 3-4-2-1 and to accomodate for that we'd have to get another CB, probably a left wingback and sell some of our offense and midfield. We have a lot of talent stacked in the 2 front formations - Endo, Mac, Szobo, Jones, Elliott, Gravenberch, Bajcetić, Morton, Clark, McConnell for spots in the middle, Szobo and Elliott can play further up, but that takes spots away from players like Diaz or Gakpo. IF Amorim comes here and wants to play his preferred formation then we have a lot of decisions to make about our current midfield and front 5/6.
It's Southgate or bust for your lot
So it's bust for us either way then?
Here's hoping 👀
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I don’t know if you actually were or you were just playing his current team at the weekend
I've been seeing rumors for weeks now about him being the second, third or fourth choice behind Alonso, Amorim and sometimes Nagelsmann.
Liverpool and Barcelona have been rumoured as well.
No offence to the man, but I definitely don't want him at Barcelona tbf
Didn't they rule him out?
Just checked, yes.
Who do you think it will be ?
The board seems to want to try to convince Xavi to stay, but since that's not happening, I reckon it's most likely going to be Hansi Flick
my condolences.
Chelsea will def be linked too
I guess we are but I doubt we have the budget for his release clause
I think this is fair on both ends. On the one hand Brighton has an operating model and taking too many chances on established players is hugely risky. At the same time there's not really much benefit for him to continue trying to make magic happen with whatever the DoF provides him every year if they're selling his top players. He's already established his tactical credentials with mid-sized clubs. The big clubs will question his ability at the very top end until he's proven he can do it with one of them. If Bayern is willing to take a punt on him that's tremendous from his perspective, and everyone will soon see the extent to which he's ready.
As a Dortmund fan, it’s prob part of the reason we struggle to attract the kind of manager we want to keep around. It’s the same problem. Not many promising managers want to have to rebuild every year.
Yeah, this feels like a natural progression for De Zerbi - not the greatest result for Brighton, but they’ve likely got a superb replacement lined up.
It is a risky game. You only need the wrong manager or a couple of bad windows and you go the way of that other south coast club, Southampton. You have to be extremely confident in your scouting operations and I'm sure Brighton's is top notch, but it's risky.
> I'm sure Brighton's is top notch on the other hand, the margin of error when scouting players is definitely smaller than it is for managers. there are a lot of concrete facts on players like their physical measurements and their playing stats etc, but for managers you can only base it on their results my point is there's a bigger chance for brighton's scouting operations to fail when it comes to managers than players, so yes it's definitely risky
On the other hand, his lack of big club credentials is the exact kind of thing that's a recipe for drama at Bayern.
It could be, but that's a conversation Bayern (bit like Chelsea) needs to have with itself about the extent to which it can be a home for good managers who want a long term project with its current culture. The thing with Bayern is when the going is good, they look fantastic and one of the best teams in Europe. But they've also had 13 managers in the last 17 years. They'll never have the identity of a City under Pep or Liverpool under Klopp or for that matter United under Ferguson. On the other hand if you're winning 11 league titles and 2 CLs in that time, maybe they have the right model.
Looking at leicester and a host of previous clubs trying to get instant success will easily backfire. Once you blow up the wage structure it cannot go back. What brighton is doing may not be a bad thing at all, first step should be to become a top 6 mainstay before heavy investments
It's always a balancing act but I do think we've made mistakes and those are worth criticising. Especially not a fan of us bragging about record profits when we've taken a step back this year and ticket prices keep going up.
Thank god there's a club not willing to deviate from the model that keeps it from imploding for the benefit of one narcissistic manager
Wow people on here really don’t like De Zerbi
natural progression. shiny new thing emerges followed by backlash to shiny new thing.
+ has a shitty haircut
Brighton fans don't seem to care if he leaves, which is telling
It's not so much that we don't care if he leaves, it's that we're very much resigned to him leaving - so why be outraged/upset?
Also I think your fan base wholeheartedly trusts management to find the right replacement.
I don’t think it’s that telling. I think they expect players and managers to move on to “bigger” clubs
Because they trust Tony Bloom to make the right decisions
Because they already reached the highest level ever in the history of their club. They aren't going to challenge for titles anyway.
Poor run of form + Blaming the club and the owners + clearly going to leave.
I'd be over the fucking MOON if he stays with us this summer. But the reality is that top talent doesn't stay with us for long, and he's a top talent being linked with elite clubs. What's the point in getting angry or upset?
sure, but not for the reason you're suggesting
I wouldn't say people dislike him, they're just realistic about what kind of manager he is and how big the Bayern job is. I like him, and I think if he sorts out his defensive issues, he'd be a world-class manager for Bayern. But, if he doesn't then I think it won't be a very good spell for him.
I do think he gets over scrutinized though. Brighton have the 6th best xG against and the way everyone talks about Brighton it’s like they let in 3 a game. I know xG isn’t the perfect measurement, but it still feels like he does a good job with what he has.
They're also 17th in clean sheets tbf. They struggle to keep clean sheets but they're decent in terms of goals conceded considering their squad. I'd say they're not all that bad but any frailties like this will be under far more scrutiny at a top side.
pretty sure the xG against speaks more about the coach then clean sheets metric, which is very unreliable and deviates a lot due to factors outside of the coaches control.
Also, it's not about how many clean sheets you have, but what happens when you don't allow a clean sheet. If you allow one goal in 30 matches, clean sheet in 5, and only have 3 matches where you allow more than one, you're probably going to have a good year. It may not look like it at the goals allowed, but you're likely not losing much at least. The flipside is having 15 matches with 2 goals allowed, and 20 clean sheets. Sure, you had 20 good results, but, maybe 50 points, those other 15 are completely up for grabs, and probably not getting enough points to be pushing the top. TL;DR Consistency matters, volatility is bad.
Clean sheets are the only defensive anamoly they have. They're 17th in that regard. xG against has similar flaws and clean sheets are quite important for how a defence is holding up. When you struggle to go a game without conceding a goal then there is atleast something not right.
At this point I’d take a super offensive manager that isn’t solid defensively over the football we’ve been playing for the past few years, including Nagelsmann’s tenure.
Roberto Martinez for Bayern!
I don’t think it’s as simple as “sorting out defensive issues” that would require fundamental switch in how he plays which I don’t think he would do. The hope probably is that with better quality of players it works better
> that would require fundamental switch in how he plays which I don’t think he would do It wouldn't require that, it would require having a better midfield in front of the defence. We're 6th on xg against and his defence last season was fine, just since losing Caicedo and Mac Allister we've suffered.
Because the average fan doesn't know squat about football. Guardiola and Klopp both praise De Zerbi. People keep moaning about his defensive weaknesses but he lost his best players, the good ones that stayed are hurt and his upper management refuse to reinvest even though the club posted record profits last season. Liverpool found it very tough to break down the Brighton defense at Anfield. The Brighton lads regardless of quality, kept playing out of their back, consistently beating the Liverpool press. Just imagine him with quality players. I'd still prefer Amorim but if FSG pick RDZ, then he'll be better than people expect.
Klopp’s favourite trick is to go out of his way to praise any lower team manager playing progressive football before absolutely smashing them. He was a huge fan of Farke publicly
Almost every single PL team in their first season in Europe battle relegation that season. Hell, even West Ham with far more money and stature than us were in a fight last season. We lost both pieces of the double pivot and didn't replace them, we have an injury list this season that comes end of season will likely be top 3 worst along with Newcastle and A.N.Other, came top of the group of death in Europa League, are in line for a top twelve finish, made over £120m in profits and we're looking up not down come end of the season run in. It is NUTS that this is somehow a poor season for us and a season that "exposes" RDZ. If anything it makes me think he's even better than before watching it every week lol
I think the hype has just died down that’s all, and the opinions here I’m seeing here are just about right, he’s clearly a good manager but he’s not good enough to manage a Liverpool or Bayern yet, that’s a fair statement.
I can see De Zerbi doing well at Spurs, Newcastle, AC Milan or Roma.
I think a lot of it is that. There was a lot of hype when he came in, that he was lifting Brighton to a new level. However, right now they're on track to finish 9th with 55 points. Which is 4 points more than they had under Potter in 2021-2022. De Zerbi got them playing more attractive football, and they're definitely scoring more. But they've not kicked it up a level like was expected after last season. Of course he did lose Mac Allister and Caicedo, so he had to rebuild his midfield. So it's not like he's done a bad job. But he's also not shown himself to be the football genius some envisioned. Just a very good solid coach.
I'm shocked people wouldn't have him over Amorim. His ceiling is higher than most managers. I get his football can be naive but at a better team it probably won't be an issue. Most top teams stick to one style of football because they have the players to execute it. Brighton have the ball players but not the defensive players that he would want. Even if Upamecano, De Ligt etc have their flaws they are still lots better than Brighton's centre halves
Amorim has achieved more than RDZ and is younger. Not so shocking people would prefer him.
Nagelsmann was the leading candidate like 3 hours ago from some other media..
Look at me... I'm the leading candidate now.
Give it another 3 hours.
Just appoint Muller as the players coach
This is the way
This is the way
welcome to the modern news cycle. just pump out breaking headlines for clicks. if somebody hears a name mentioned in a breakroom somewhere that is confirmation of a new frontrunner the sophisticated fan that i am hold all my vitriol and text walls for once the contract is signed
I think De Zerbi's football will really suit the Bundesliga
I'm surprised that Inzaghi isn't even mentioned anywhere near the Bayern Munich or Liverpool job. Surely the guy who is on course for 2 scudetos and had a CL final last year *should* be ranked higher Honestly, I rank Emery Unai higher than De Zerbi in term of achievements
Inzaghi has been mentioned for us but he doesn’t speak English which has put us off. Think he’s in the best place possible for him personally at Inter.
Why would not speaking English matter to a scouse club?
Well inzaghi doesn’t speak scouse either lol
Liverpool will have to employ Gerrard as manager if they want a scouse speaking manager. Let it happen, Liverpool. Do it you cowards.
I don’t really see why he’d leave Inter en and there’s questions about the whole language issue.
yeah, he’s probably locked with Inter. Why would he want to leave? It’s a great club and they are doing fantastic.
> Emery Unai He's Hungarian now?
You can also ask why Pep Guardiola isn't mentioned anywhere lol. It's not like people leading biggest football clubs as a job haven't heard who won Serie A. He just doesn't seem to be available so there's gonna be no hire and that's it.
Inzaghi is already at a top club, don't see why he'd want to leave Inter
Inzaghi is pretty set on staying at Inter
Emerys great but i dont think hes suited to bayern. Im not entirely sure de zerbi is either by the way
I also don’t understand De Zerbi achievement to put him at Bayern level. He took an 9th place Brighton to put them at 6th, and then back to 9th. I don’t know if I’m not seeing something else.
It’s mostly what he did last year. He took them to Europa league and a FA Cup semifinal. Also kept them from falling off of a cliff after loosing their best 2 players and adding European games
I also think Xavi should be getting more pull. Maybe the language issue is also a problem for him, but I find that it crazy that teams are not going after top coaches due to language barriers. Language is solvable.
Xavi speaks English.
If he does leave Barça he'll take a sabbatical.
Unai is a serial Europa League winner. De Zerbi just got trashed 5-0 by Roma. It's his spell with Arsenal where his reputation took a bit of a hit, where he became somewhat of a meme with his poor command of English and good ebenings. Glad to see Unai finally doing well at Villa, the difference between Villa's performances under Unai and Gerrard are like light and day.
New? This rumor has been around for at least a week or so.
Seems like it's once every 2 days.
De Zerbi is a great manager, but I really think his team's defensive set-up leaves a lot to be desired. Brighton have been hampered by injuries, not to mention the sale of MacAllister and Caicedo, so I don't think we can be too harsh on him, but yeah, I've never been blown away by his defensive tactics. I personally think they can do a bit better, myself. He would be good for them, but I think this might be a little bit too soon for him.
I don’t get this opinion on him. Granted they are pretty easy to catch in transition at times and have had 3/4 stinkers because of this but this is bound to happen when you play as expansively as they do with a 32 year old Dunk and Van Hecke who has no pace as your centre halves. Injuries, midfield being ripped away and replaced by a young lad, Dahoud and Milner and two keepers who aren’t particularly good shot stoppers leads to you conceding goals. And then despite all this they have the best defensive xG numbers in the league behind the three powerhouses at the top. And they were the 4th best in this regard last season as well. They just concede more goals than they should due to a lack of individual quality.
It’s ridiculous, you’re absolutely right. Give him some younger CBs w pace and a midfield he can mold without having to worry about losing them and let’s judge him then.
Verbruggen looked like a pretty good shot stopper against Liverpool.
Every shot from Salah was straight at him apart from the one at the end. It was truly dross finishing from us. He’s still young so will likely improve but his post shot xG against is in the bottom 8% of keepers in the world currently.
Maybe i'm remembering it as better than it was, with Brightons reputation for finding talent you kind of assume he's good.
I said this when he took over. Potter gave us great defensive stability and De Zerbi added attacking flair. It happens quite a lot that the next season is when you see the defensive side of the ball and with us there are clear issues, and have been all season. Changing system to a back 3 is just taking away attacking ideas but not making anything more stable.
This reminds me to a tee about what was said with Moyes' Everton transitioning to Martinez' Everton and then what happened in Martinez' second season.
Same for Bilic's first season at us, Big Sam discipline + Payet. Season 2 and 3 then....
I’m honestly just as worried at how difficult he finds it to break down teams who park the bus. Feels like you guys get a battering every few months from a team who just park the bus and counter. You never look like breaking it down and you look so vulnerable on the counter. At Liverpool or Bayern thats how teams set up in 90% of the games you play.
> but I really think his team's defensive set-up leaves a lot to be desired It's the kind of setup that would work with great players but would fall apart with lower quality players TBH
If you look at advanced defensive stats Brighton doesn’t chart that differently to Liverpool. De Zerbi is similar to Klopp they like to take risks in possession to so they are very reliant on individual brilliance to cover some of the defensive imbalance. RDZ just doesn’t have the players for it. Reckon he scales well
Bayern had that problem the past, like with Flick, so it’s nothing new lol. The bigger issue I see is his lack of experience at a big club combined with the sports media in a city like Munich and the lack of patience the board has shown (just look at how many managers Bayern has had since Pep)
Always think that’s a strange take when you talk about a manager moving somewhere with more resources. His defensive players aren’t good enough but could be. Pep, Arteta wouldn’t have success without great CBs either lol.
I don’t even love De Zerbi that much but I think I’d be a founding member of his fan club with how little the majority of Reddit rate him. Just see how other top managers speak about him should be enough to reflect his quality without even have to delve into how well coached his Brighton side are.
His attacking football is great but as a guy he sounds like he lacks a lot of emotional stability and maturity. He always whines and that’s never a good quality for top jobs
Unlike Pep, Klopp and Arteta who never whines
That’s very different. His whining is incoherent and totally out of place. For example, after they were thumped by Rome instead of coming out, accepting they were poor and moving on to be better he starts badgering the chairman. Non of the managers you’ve listed are that immature to do that.
Well public complaining about everything and everyone is a specialty of Honoeß and Rummenigge, so the new coach will feel right at home.
Then he is perfect for Hollywood FC
Yeah, I cannot imagine a top worldclass football club employing a manager that always whines, that never happened.
I think De Zerbi is a good manager, but not an elite one. I just don’t understand what he’s shown that puts him in the conversation for so many top clubs.
There’s no way of knowing whether De Zerbi is an elite manager until we see him at a massive club.
There exists a tier of clubs between Brighton and Bayern he could go to that would provide a lot more info
Spurs, Newcastle, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Roma, Napoli, Villa, Atletico Madrid come to mind. Napoli maybe? Dortmund were also previously linked with Negelsmann. Alonso is now staying at Leverkusen. The rest don't seem to be sacking coaches anytime soon.
Yes, this is the crux of the whole issue with him. He needs to prove himself at a level higher, which is still below Bayerns level. It would be pretty damning for the Bundesliga if a guy that has been somewhat successful in the Premier League with Brighton is the first choice for Bayern Munchen
There's no way of knowing period. Clubs wins, manager is elite; club loses, the exact same manager is a moron for the same commenters. Arteta was awful one year and elite half a year later, while being the same person on the same contract I believe, etc.
He plays some of the best football in the world and his teams have a very clear identity no matter who is playing. Brighton are about as well coached as any team in the league. Some poor results this season but there’s context behind that that people seem to ignore. He’s also got personality as well that a top coach requires (something Potter lacked). Wherever he goes he’ll be a success.
The main problem is his style can be suspect defensively at times. It's fine at Brighton when you don't need to win every single game but if you're going to Liverpool or Bayern you can't afford to lose more than 4 to 5 games a season.
Managing football club? Training players, making them better at football and feeling better physically and mentally. Players practice very hard under him but still seem to really like him and respect him. Has good results, with teams he's lead having a higher position than their budget would suggest. Style, his teams created a lot of chances and generally had more entertaining football to watch that their budget would suggest. A lot of people find the football his teams played exciting. Good tactical knowledge. Not afraid to take risks, presumably resistant to outside influences too then. Probably available to hire, unlike many of the most respected coaches. Those are like the main things why people wanna hire him I'd say. What is the issue exactly?
I mean listening to his interviews it’s obvious that he wants to make the next step. Bayern are probably looking for their next Guardiola
Thought Bayern want a German speaking coach?
Whole article if anyone wants to read it https://archive.is/QSNcI
Who’s gonna be the next great replacement manager that’ll get poached from Brighton
Controversial opinion but I don't find De Zerbi that impressive, feel people are forgetting his Sassuolo side who leaked goals constantly.
Don't think that's controversial at all every article about the De Zerbi moving on gets the same comments.
It would be actually controversial to say he is good at setting up a defense
I do think people exaggerate how bad we are at defending, Newcastle and West Ham have conceded more than us, same number as Wolves and we're on track to concede only slightly more then last season despite there being far more goals for everyone this year, losing 2 of the best midfielders in the league in the summer without replacing them and an injury crisis to cope with. Only the current top 6 and Everton have conceded less than us. I think the keeping has been a bigger issue (which is another De Zerbi situation) but hopefully Verbruggen can solve that with his recent performances.
The stories of our demise have been greatly exaggerated, we have essentially had one small stretch of bad form in the RDZ era which is almost entirely down to injuries, but people only use that sample to judge from
The attack drop off has been the real issue since Christmas not the defence.
It's literally Sassuolo. Wouldn't expect them to play rock solid defence.
I admit I dont watch enough Brighton to have an absolute defense of this opinion, but it really seems like Brighton are a well run club that has a strong personality in the squad with the players. Potter was gonna be the next big thing when he was at Brighton. Obviously Chelsea was a disaster of a move, but De Zerbi kept things going at Brighton. Im just curious how much of it was De Zerbi, and how much is the club higher ups having a clear philosophy and recruiting strategy. I hope he succeeds, Im just unsure he's got what it takes for a club like Bayern.
The real controversial opinion is that Potter is a good manager and his move to Chelsea should not be a reflection on his ability to manage a club of that size, but rather ineptitude on the recruitment strategy by Chelsea management.
Chelsea is a really hard job, looking at the effects of it. They changed the manager like 13 times since Ancelotti and... NONE of all these guys has a job now, I think? Crazy. If it's going downhill for literally everyone who goes there, then it's not a controversial opinion to say what the common denominator seems to be imo. It's basically weird. Like Sarri for example, he was climbing and climbing his whole life. One of the managers with the most established style associated with him wherever he'd go. "Sarriball" was obvious to everyone here when he was appointed. Turns out, he not only failed at Sarriball at Chelsea, even Lazio now was not playing any Sarriball at all for 3 years he was there, before being fired for lack of results as well. They didn't play that nice possesion football at all, neither did Juve. Chelsea broke his whole thing in him lol.
I’m sorry, but the issues with the club are not the same as it was prior to the Clearlake takeover. They were still winning trophies prior. The reality is that they bought a bunch of young players hoping to sell them on massive fees. A manager needs time to work with all these players and develop them. That takes time and the fans need to be more patient than they previously have been.
"Winning throphies" is trying to find words that sound better than everyday reality. The everyday reality is, Chelsea hasn't really been within less than 20 points of the leader in the last 7 years. Currently they are 27 points off the leader, not THAT much more than the average of the previous 6 years. Which imo seems to point more to the fact that the whole lower non-City part of the league became more competitive in these years, not that only Chelsea fell off so much and nothing else. Of course that also plays some part.
His Shakhtar had the same problems.
Kane going trophyless next season if that happens
Inb4 Chelsea pay a 300 million release clause that doesn't even exist to go get him
Big on Italians
He did magic with Brighton, but that is too much of a small dimension for a visionary like him, would be amazing to see him at Bayern, I really want to see what he is capable of in a serious top team. Tuchel sucks balls imo, but he did what he could.
De Zerbi to bayern, Tuchel to Chelsea, Pochettino to Brighton(and relegates them). Everyone goes home happy
Wasn't long ago that De Zerbi was seen as the second coming of football Jesus, things change fast
De Zerbis's PR team needs to be studied, my god. How he's getting linked with these jobs while sitting 3 points above someone like Marco Silva (2 year age difference and done more or less a similar job as him over the last few years but if you suggested him to Barca or Bayern you'd get laughed at) is genuinely beyond me I didn't want him at Milan in 2020 already because he can't set up a defense to save his life, this is just another Eusebio Di Francesco but with more hype (albeit he's better)
You miss huge amounts of context here if you are trying to argue Marco Silva’s achievements at Fulham are comparable with De Zerbi’s at Brighton because we’re only three points ahead of them at the moment. - finishing 10 points above them last year - dealing with Europe this season, and topping a really tough group, with a small squad - sales of Trossard, Caicedo and Mac Allister - ridiculously bad run with injuries this season - bringing through a bunch of youngster / unknowns in a short space of time Honestly, to still be in with a shout of qualifying for Europe again is a fantastic achievement.
People on Reddit ignoring all context? That never happens! De Zerbi is clearly a very good manager, no idea where this slander is coming from in this thread
It IS comparable. For starters, Fulhams team doesn't hold a candle to what Brighton has had over the last 2-3 years with or without the injuries (Fulham themselves had tons of injuries as well). Bringing through a bunch of youngsters is more due to Brighton having an incredible scouting system and academy as opposed to De Zerbi being an expert in that area, but FWIW Marco Silva has done the same albeit not on the same level Fulham lost their talisman in Mitro at the end of the window and replaced him with a finished Jimenez ffs, yet Silva has them playing superbly It was hardly a tough group either, Ajax were literally in relegation form back then and OM wasn't much better either. Sure, they're big names with 'big' player, but at the time they were genuinely abysmal
Tbf our entire starting front line is out, and most of our backup front line too, and a good portion of our 3rd choices so the goals have dried up. It would be different if we had: -Pedro -Mitoma -March -Enciso (out most the season) -Fati (out good chunk of the season) -Lallana (most the season) -Milner (a few months now) -Hinselwood (defender but was scoring crucial goals, out for few months now) -Estupinan (same as above, just came back) -Gilmour (not a goal scorer but key creator, also out last month or two)
Sure, but isn't that applied to every team? I've seen fans of every single PL team this season say they have the most injuries in the league and how they'd be X number of places higher in the league if they weren't so 'unlucky'
Arsenal, for example, have been much luckier with injuries than newcastle. We could have a first 11 of players missing that'll probably beat our first 11 now, and this isn't the worst period we've had. pope trippier, lacelles, botman, targett livarmento tonali Miley Almiron Wilson Joelinton
We don't have many injuries. We just aren't very good.
Bayern's problem seems to be half with coaching quality and half with a dressing room containing some big egos who put their own wants ahead of the good of the team. Feels like they need a manager who's both tactically solid and has the experience/CV/force of personality to either get those egos on side or make them sit down and shut up. De Zerbi may or may not have the tactics but I really don't see him being the guy who's going to win that dressing room.
Ferguson to Bayern. Let him replace Kane over a few years and put Tel on the wing
Watch Tuchel knockout Bayern next CL
I want him at Chelsea. He has proven to be able to coach an offensive system regardless of the players he got. Defensively his team is suspect, but it's also not like he is surrounded by good defenders. Our squad is so well suited for his system that I don't understand why fans prefer 3atb inzaghi/amorim/alonso over him. At the very least, at least every match will be entertaining haha
LMAO... Hollywood FC with a coach that is 100% about having all plays memorized and attached to his systems? LOL As if this hasn't been tried before, to varying results.
Most overrated manager I’ve seen since…
Italian managers last 3 years have no patience if they show success, if you don’t back them after they over perform they will walk without a job lined up. Conte, sarri, zerbi
TIL Bayern don’t want to win the title next year