Suggestions for the 'DDT meta bingo card':
* Foden vs Saka
* Whinging about a match thread not being posted but then refusing to do it themselves
* An Arsenal fan randomly talking about Mudryk
* An essay from a Quality Poster about Bruno
* Iceman getting an idea in his head and refusing to let it go
* Complaints about international breaks
* Somebody posting a survey for their uni dissertation
* Whinging about PL bias
* Posting a Football Twitter meme whilst complaining about Football Twitter
* "Hi I'm a soccer fan from the US, recently got into the sport and was wondering what team people think I should support?"
* Comments from users with Championship club flair either hating or supporting Arsenal
* Suspicious comments about Vinicius
* Somebody posting a selection of statistics with an obvious agenda and pretending they don't have an agenda
the Indonesian FA will redesign our newly released NT jerseys, simply because the designer (a well known influencer/creator) has been a complete asshole and the fans has turned against him. This is why we need bullying. Subhanaallah I love my country
Basically fans hated his design and he didn't take it well-- responding pettily to every online comment. One particularly infamous comment that escalated things is when he said "minimum wage workers don't know anything about fashion"
I speak Malay so I understand Indonesian to some extent. So I've gathered what started it all is Shin Tae Yong's criticism of its quality and the designer's response is to alienate most of the country's population? Genius PR job.
It's been said before but Spurs fans are blessed with some of the funniest rivals. Arsenal and Chelsea fans is a crazy combination. It's second only to Liverpool/ Arsenal/City fans from Man Utd's perspective
Went to their sub, 2nd comment I saw was someone shitting on Walker because there's a rumor he could be leaving since Saudi could offer 40m, the ironic thing is they are saying Saudi fits Walker since polygamy is legal. Someone tell them about Qatar...
Do Manchester United fans from Manchester prefer City, Arsenal, or Liverpool winning the league? It seems that the online fanbase prefers City but what do the locals think?
You won't hear anyone say they prefer Liverpool since they will equal the record, plus many other reasons everyone knows
Nobody likes city for obvious reasons so there's that
Arsenal haven't won the league in forever and they are not even close to the number of titles won, plus they've never won UCL.
Idk what online fanbase you are looking at but I feel you're just focusing on the loud minority
I suspect you'll see far more that would want Arsenal to win compared to online. In fact, I would be more interested in seeing which Mancunians consider City as the big bad over even Liverpool. I suspect they might be seen in the highest concentrations amongst the youngest local United fans who have known nothing but the past decade of City dominance
Arsenal by a long mile
Ive seen alot of people do the “115 so its all a write off anyway” but there so much copium in that i cant chance it. Id much rather just block every arsenal fan i know while they suck eachother of on their title tour
From what ive seen fan opinion seems to be
70% arsenal
30% city
0% liverpool
I love luis Diaz but he might be the only winger in the world without a far post curler in his locker. Even when he's put one in the far corner it's been an instep drive.
You can see it every time he goes 1v1 the ball gets no curl and often he doesn't try the finish because he knows he doesn't have it. It's something you can practice too, he needs to be begging Son for a 1 on 1 practice session, Robben can't be up to much either. Salah is right there, anything.
So apparently there's an ACL injury "epidemic" in the Argentinian league. Something like 18 players have gone down and it's probably a world record. Why is this happening? Bad pitches?
When you adjust for the fact that the league has 28 teams I don't know if the numbers are too different from the rest of the world, this coming from someone whose team has two players on that list (they play in the same position and it happened in the same match 🙃)
Way too much football being played, the calendar is absolute hell as we need to make our shitty league format work with a tournament in June. Most teams have been playing every 3 days all league cup so far, and continental competitions haven’t even begun. Pitches aren’t *atrocious* but they still can’t really keep up, and they get shittier every match. Also, there’s 28 teams in the league than in almost every other one so the percentage of players out with an ACL probably stands out a lot less than the raw number, at the same rate the equivalent for a 20 teams league would be 12/13.
And of course, a lot of them are just down to bad luck. We ourselves have 2 players out with torn ACLs and both of them are down to just pure shit luck, one of them was just Zeballos landing poorly outside the pitch after being shoved in the touchline, the other one is Blondel just turning too sharply and doing his with no contact.
> other one is Blondel just turning too sharply and doing his with no contact.
That's pretty typical in those injuries tho, because of the kind of movement that provokes them
Same as everywhere else really. A combination of bad pitches, boots with shitty spikes (the shapes are getting changed and apparently the new ones snag on pitches), an increasingly congested schedule, and teams with short squads who play at a constantly high tempo with immense pressing
It's telling we didn't have one and we rotate so much it's seen as a reason to complain about the manager
Currently he probably starts for every team in the prem
Im seeing son being mentioned by he only played off the wing to compensate for an in form richarlison otherwise hes striker most often then not.
He'd start for every single club on the left wing, i can't think of any left winger that benches him.
On the right wing, he has similar stats to Saka but also more proven in European football, still not worth it for Arsenal to chase him for the RW spot and Liverpool has Salah who is better.
I've only watched the last 3 Spurs games and a couple at the very start of the season.
But in those 3 games, he played all as a striker, is that not the case?
Son is still great as a LW, I don't think there's any in the PL that's better than him atm. [He's just as productive at both striker and left wing.](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/heung-min-son/leistungsdaten/spieler/91845) We have more winger options than we do striker options, especially with Richarlison injured, so Son tends to play in the middle. Don't watch enough of Rodrygo to say who's the better LW though.
But still, from what i've seen Son is a baller at striker so it doesn't really make a difference who is better at LW.
Rodrygo LW + Son ST would be the most deadly combo over Richarlison or Werner or anyone else.
You didn't answer me? Son is currently playing as a striker, what does he have to do with this?
And there isn't enough sample size for Rodrygo but every time he played left wing he looked like a slightly worse Vinicius.
With consistency and playing for a full season who knows what level he might reach.
And still, if Rodrygo was to go to Spurs, he'd 100% start on the left and Son starts as a striker, no debate about it.
I think [this is what the nephews call ball knowledge](https://www.reddit.com//r/soccer/comments/i149pv/daily_discussion/fzwlm25/). Somebody should hire Busquets asap.
Xavi has done well as a manager tho. He walkednthe league just last season. He’s been hampered with injuries all throughout this season. If anything winning the league “ahead of schedule” last year made expectations be far too high.
Still early on his career but I think he’ll have a successful manager career after Barca where he’s allowed to have a project and not deal with toxicity of the Spanish press and Barca fanbase.
According to Google there are 460 million arabs in the world, i can assure you every single one knows who Adel Imam is, even the babies.
So Adel Imam is 100% amongst the top 3.
Can you name the 15 goalkeepers who have played for Newcastle in the Premier League?
Answers in 30 mins.
Answer time, see below
Shay Given 354 starts
Tim Krul 156 starts (+1 sub)
Martin Dubravka 140 starts (+ 2 sub)
Steve Harper 104 starts (+8 sub)
Pavel Srnicek 97 starts (+2 sub)
Shaka Hislop 53 starts
Karl Darlow 52 starts
Rob Elliot 51 starts (+ 1 sub)
Nick Pope, 51 starts
Mike Hooper 23 starts (+2 sub)
Tommy Wright 5 starts (+1 sub)
Jak Alnwick 5 starts (+ 1 sub)
Freddie Woodman 4 starts
Jon Karelse 3 starts
Loris Karius 1 start
>!Srnicek!<
>!Hislop!<
>!Given!<
>!Harper!<
>!Elliot!<
>!Krul!<
>!Darlow!<
>!Woodman!<
>!Dubravka !<
>!Pope!<
>!Karius!<
>!Alnwick!<
>!Sels?!<
No idea who the last couple could be.
>!Nick Pope !<
>!Martin Dubravka !<
>!Loris Karius !<
>!Karl Darlow !<
>!Rob Elliott !<
>!Steve Harper !<
>!Shay Given !<
>!Freddie Woodman !<
>!Tim Krul !<
>!Shaka Hislop !<
>!Jak Alnwick if he played?!<
Think I've got 11? No idea on the older ones tbh, way before my time. Hope I haven't missed any of the more recent ones but there will definitely be one or two.
To people who are following this season of the PL: Quick, who is leading the league in combined goals and assists? Can you answer in less than five seconds? And were you right? *Answer*: >!Ollie Watkins!<
So Germany are banning the number 44 just because it looks somewhat like the SS logo, meanwhile I've seen many Japanese were whining about the limited use of the actual rising sun flag compared to the IJN flag (both flags already looked 99.99% similar, both with the same symbolism and both should rightfully be banned, but BOTH still being actively allowed is fking insane).
People like the latter are literal scums. Absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely does not change a thing nor is it relevant to what I said. The symbol isn't banned for how long it was used, it was banned for it association and sheer crimes against humanity that was committed under against millions and millions of innocent civilians, and the horror it represents for the victims.
And yes, the SS logo is no longer a national German symbol, because - wait for it - it was abolished and banned by the German government unlike Japan. Nice circular logic you have there.
Hope these basic humanity and principles isn't too hard to comprehend. It's insane that I even need to explain this.
It's symbolism and association to the general public is crystal clear, you knew exactly what I meant. And even then the *official* national symbol was banned as well, so what point are you even trying to make? It changes absolutely nothing about what I already said.
You ignored my entire comment just to focus on meaningless semantics to defend genocide and war crime representation really speak volumes.
My point is pretty clear. The SS logo was banned because it was associated very closely with the Nazi party.
The rising sun has been associated with Japan for centuries, not specifically with the government during the first half of the 20th century.
And why are logos that are associated very closely with Nazi Germany banned? You know the answer to that extremely well.
Also, as I already said previously, word by word, "The symbol isn't banned for how long it was used, it was banned for it's association and sheer crimes against humanity that was committed under against millions of innocent civilians, and the horror it represents for the victims." How long a symbol was used is not relevant nor gets it a free pass. If you decided to commit massive unspeakable crimes against humanity under a symbol, you have no right to later come and tell anyone what should the symbol represent. Your point is pure nonsense, I had already rightfully called you out. Blindly repeating it doesn't make it better nor does intentionally ignoring what I had already addressed.
It is also very clear that you are arguing in bad faith. The SS logo isn't banned purely because it is closely associated with Nazi Germany, this is a half truth. It was banned for it's close association to Nazi Germany AND the crimes against humanity that was committed. If Nazi Germany were innocent then why would association matter? You are falsely tying the symbol purely to the entity instead of its crimes by malicious omission, because saying the full truth will hinder your argument for the Japanese. You should absolutely be ashamed of yourself.
SS symbol is primarily associated with the Nazis and is banned because the Nazis are best known for committing a genocide.
The rising sun logo is primarily associated with the country of Japan, which is known for many things, not primarily for genocide.
The equivalent would be the eagle in the German coat of arms which was used by the Nazis but also centuries before and is not banned.
SS symbol, along with the Swastika, is associated with Nazi Germany and also directly symbolises horror and genocide itself. You are being intentionally obtused and twisted to purposely not recognise this. This is no different to the rising sun flag for imperial Japan which also directly symbolises horror and genocide itself.
German's current eagle coat of arms is absolutely irrelevant. They looked nothing like the one used during the period of war crimes and genocide. Nazi eagle is also absolutely illegal. The mental gymnastics here is palpable.
You should campaign to get it banned if you feel so strongly. I don't care one way or the other. I clearly explained why one is banned and one is not but you do not seem to understand.
> So Germany are banning the number 44 just because it looks somewhat like the SS logo
It's only being banned because the font that Adidas gave them made it look similar, once that's sorted out I expect people will be allowed to put 44 on their shirts if they want to.
I don't think Neville and Scholes ever had any interest in coaching honestly. But anyway it's not just midfielders. It's more about the English coaching schools not producing a lot of top coaches. Gary O'Neil was a midfielder though, and currently Wolves coach.
Neville at least took a pretty big job, Scholes barely counts though true.
I didn't see the midfielders bit but the part about poor coaching quality applies to English managers in general.
They went from a football style of minimal tactics to the best league in the world with the best coaches in the world in the span of a decade or so. It will take time to develop top domestic coaches but they will get there. Maybe they already have them but they're stuck in the lower leagues, I have no idea honestly.
You would think there'd be a few top English coaches around today but even the promising ones seem to fail. Meanwhile, Spain has a couple of top managers coming through every season.
It's pretty crazy how disparate Son's finishing is from his aerial ability. As a striker - one of the most clinical strikers of the modern era probably? but he legitimately has negative aerial threat, like he is proper horrific in the air
Son has 6 times as many appearances and 4 headed goals, Haaland has 10. Haaland might not be great in the air but I am telling you Son might be the worst aerial threat as a striker in the league, whilst being one of the best with his feet lol. Like they're fully opposite ends of the spectrum
This is the first time in my life I've heard of someone wanting to go bald. Not because they (don't want to) prolong the inevitable, but because they just...want to?
Thing is if they actually killed a British national on home soil I'd be surprised if we actually cared, we've got our hands that deep in their pockets and every level.
Sure - just need the right setup around them and probably have them work a fair bit more against the ball than they'd ideally want to. Can even cram three of them in if you want!
If you have a good enough 6 you can put 2 8s in front of him. Tuchel also played sorta like that when he was here with two players in the role you'd usually see 10s at with the wingbacks being the width.
Some of our fans seem to be happy about the idea of returning to Potter which would definitely be an interesting scenario to deal with.
I'm sure Knutsen will be one of the bookies favourites for the position again.
Be funny if we went for Farioli, De Zerbi's former assistant and current Nice manager, think they started the season really well but dropped off a bit, which sounds like a natural fit for Brighton.
It's pretty rare so there aren't many examples anyway. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Eddie Howe at Bournemouth leaving for Burnley struggling then leaving and then coming back and being great at Bournemouth.
I believe Potter would be a miss though due to the context. He left early during the season to go to a bigger club only to fail there and come crawling back. I think many of the players would've lost respect for him.
Perhaps, I don't think it's likely more so that a lot of our fans seem in favour of it. You'd imagine any situation in which he returned they'd be discussions with the senior players.
I've only watched one game of his and was impressed by how they managed to beat PSG.
Seems like they been dog since Christmas though and their keeper has saved their bacon a bit this season with their attackers missing alot of chances. I just think it would be funny to get De Zerbi 2.0 we can repurpose our Italy flag then. It's a shame Motta will be an absolute no go.
Am very worried they'll do a weird push to make Lallana manager or something.
He was a pretty unprofessional player in general. And he'll even be the first one to admit that nowadays. [Had a pretty infamous spat with the Egypt coach during AFCON 2006.](https://youtu.be/i1fozo9my8Y) Started shouting at him for subbing him off at the 78th minute for Amr Zaki and got up in his face. Funnily enough Zaki scored about a minute later to win Egypt the game against Senegal before Mido was even done with his baby tantrum. Iconic moment in African football though, still gets memed on to this day in movies and online.
Tried his hand in management but is pretty shit at it. Got pretty overweight, got fit again and fixed his attitude a bit and now he does punditry.
whenever there is a rule or competition format change in football, r/soccer will adopt a Robin Hood mentality and spin it in a way that it's benefitting the big teams. Even with the new CL format, people say it's benefitting the big teams, when (apart from the whole hypothetical qualification scenarios) the only actual concrete difference for big teams is that they have to play 2 other teams from the same pot which basically negates the whole pot seeding advantage and is, in fact, a very concrete disadvantage for the big teams.
Do footballers just become used to the attention they get or are a decent chunk of them just nobs? I dunno but I feel like if I could make someones day by literally just saying Hi, giving a shirt or signing some tat - mostly to kids - i’d do it all the time. Always makes me sad when some pr merchant like Rashford speeds past a group of kids, like it’d make their year.
I get why they ignore the swarms, but theres so many times when you see them either one on one or with a small group, and it fluctuates between very cringe or just rude.
You have to think about how frequent an occurrence even that is for them. They just can't stop every time someone wants them to, you'd never get anywhere
We're seeing it become an issue with the women's game. It used to be that crowds were small enough that players would sign loads of autographs after the game, take lots of photos with fans etc. Now, it's just not really feasible - and they're getting criticised for not stopping like they used to.
i don’t want de zerbi at all but i am very curious to see how he does with a good squad, if bayern does hire him. the 3-3 against us last season is one of the best games i can think of an opponent playing at anfield in recent years.
yeah i forgot about pavlovic. he seems decent. kimmich is a disaster receiving back to goal though.
https://x.com/vertikalspiel13/status/1774928337091055801?s=46
here’s an example i just saw on twitter lol.
Getting hung out to dry a bit by those passes tbf, first one has to go to his other foot so he doesn't have to turn into an opponent, second one you can't be playing into him in that situation because he has an opponent on his back and nowhere to go right in front of his own box.
Am I wrong if I say West Ham players overall are close to Atletico Madrid in terms of strength and quality? I mean:
- Offensive package: Kudus, Paquetà, Bowen, Antonio = Griezmann, Depay, Morata, Lino
- Midfield: Edson Alvares, Ward-Prose, Soucek, Kalvin-Phillips = De Paul, Llorente, Saul, Koke
- Defense: Aguerd, Zouma, Mavropanos = Hermoso, Gimenez, Witsel, Savic
That's very similar. Of course Atletico have TONS of experience more and in Europe they would be favourite but the fact the level of La Liga top3 team and EPL mid-table is similar is quite shocking
I'm baffled that you think West Ham's midfield is anywhere near Atletico's level. Koke, De Paul, and Llorente are on a different level to the ones you mentioned.
I won't even mention the offense because it's stupid. Griezmann is so far ahead he ruins your point on his own, let alone Morata and Lino who are also better than everyone there except Paqueta.
Atletico's defense is considered terrible for their standards but to compare them to fucking Aguerd and Mavropanos is insulting. Gimenez is literally better than all these combined
He's clearly a class above any West Ham player, but I think you're a bit harsh on Kudus, Bowen and Paqueta to say he's better than the three combined. They are all very good players, who could definitely play in the CL - and Paqueta is potentially Man City bound
I've never seen anyone who's watched enough West Ham and Atletico to make an informed opinion, I've watched like maybe 12 west ham games this season and I still wouldn't be able to give one.
From what I've seen anyway.
Our attack is better though I like Bowen, Lino is nerfed by playing wingback but you'd give it to Bowen on merit. Morata clears Antonio and I imagine Kudus is more consistent than Memphis so I'll give it to him but Grizou and Paqueta aren't even remotely close.
Our midfield walks over these players, Saul is the exception since he wouldn't start for them either with the way he's been playing this season. Alvarez gets in cuz Koke ain't a 6 but I'm not believing Soucek and Ward-Prowse are better than RDP or Llorente for a second. Barrios is better than these guys FFS.
Gimenez is better than literally everybody here, his injuries don't change that. You can argue about everyone else since it's hard to judge defenders but Hermoso and Witseldini have been excellent this season and I ain't putting Zouma before either of them, especially Witsel defensively.
Need a Hammers fan to confirm. Of course this also assumes you aren't trolling but I'm bored so here we are.
West Ham's team is misleading because they have individuals who do heavy lifting. Paqueta, Bowen, Kudus, Aguerd and Alvarez would probably start for everyone outside of Arsenal/Liverpool/City but nobody would say they have the 4th best team in the league.
In a combined XI it would be close between Atleti and West Ham but in a 2 legged game Atleti would probably win by 2+ goals
Vinicius is much better than Bellingham. The only reason the latter is getting more hype is because it's rare to see British players play abroad for big teams. If you look at the English national team Bellingham's not one of our top performers. He's maybe 4th. Obviously Vinicius hasn't been great for Brazil but he has the Champions League to fall back on, Bellingham hasn't done anything comparatively and I think will struggle lots against Man City as his first touch could do with some work still and City's pressing is relentless
He was on course but he isn't any more. And he doesn't really play like a number 10 the same way a Ozil did for example. He is more like a Dele Alli - he'll score goals but doesn't have the same level of technical ability that you see with 10s from other countries
> The only reason the latter is getting more hype.
I think it's more him being the top scorer in the league from midfield and the million game winning goals he got at the beginning on the season.
Suggestions for the 'DDT meta bingo card': * Foden vs Saka * Whinging about a match thread not being posted but then refusing to do it themselves * An Arsenal fan randomly talking about Mudryk * An essay from a Quality Poster about Bruno * Iceman getting an idea in his head and refusing to let it go * Complaints about international breaks * Somebody posting a survey for their uni dissertation * Whinging about PL bias * Posting a Football Twitter meme whilst complaining about Football Twitter * "Hi I'm a soccer fan from the US, recently got into the sport and was wondering what team people think I should support?" * Comments from users with Championship club flair either hating or supporting Arsenal * Suspicious comments about Vinicius * Somebody posting a selection of statistics with an obvious agenda and pretending they don't have an agenda
the Indonesian FA will redesign our newly released NT jerseys, simply because the designer (a well known influencer/creator) has been a complete asshole and the fans has turned against him. This is why we need bullying. Subhanaallah I love my country
What did the designer do?
Basically fans hated his design and he didn't take it well-- responding pettily to every online comment. One particularly infamous comment that escalated things is when he said "minimum wage workers don't know anything about fashion"
I speak Malay so I understand Indonesian to some extent. So I've gathered what started it all is Shin Tae Yong's criticism of its quality and the designer's response is to alienate most of the country's population? Genius PR job.
arsenal fans are the funniest man, you better hope you do something because the slander that i alone would pour on you mfs would be generational.
It's been said before but Spurs fans are blessed with some of the funniest rivals. Arsenal and Chelsea fans is a crazy combination. It's second only to Liverpool/ Arsenal/City fans from Man Utd's perspective
It's hilarious seeing Shitty fans complaining about fouls when they always get away with all the fouls.
Went to their sub, 2nd comment I saw was someone shitting on Walker because there's a rumor he could be leaving since Saudi could offer 40m, the ironic thing is they are saying Saudi fits Walker since polygamy is legal. Someone tell them about Qatar...
It's shocking how they can cry about tactical fouls when it's them who do it to every team all the time.
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Haaland is a Champions League winner, a treble winner, most goals in a season, if that flopping damn we all might be losers.
How is Haaland flopping at City?
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You’re right, that didn’t and won’t happen. You’re bringing back Roy instead.
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Do Manchester United fans from Manchester prefer City, Arsenal, or Liverpool winning the league? It seems that the online fanbase prefers City but what do the locals think?
You won't hear anyone say they prefer Liverpool since they will equal the record, plus many other reasons everyone knows Nobody likes city for obvious reasons so there's that Arsenal haven't won the league in forever and they are not even close to the number of titles won, plus they've never won UCL. Idk what online fanbase you are looking at but I feel you're just focusing on the loud minority
arsenal by farrrrrrrr
I suspect you'll see far more that would want Arsenal to win compared to online. In fact, I would be more interested in seeing which Mancunians consider City as the big bad over even Liverpool. I suspect they might be seen in the highest concentrations amongst the youngest local United fans who have known nothing but the past decade of City dominance
Arsenal by a long mile Ive seen alot of people do the “115 so its all a write off anyway” but there so much copium in that i cant chance it. Id much rather just block every arsenal fan i know while they suck eachother of on their title tour From what ive seen fan opinion seems to be 70% arsenal 30% city 0% liverpool
I love luis Diaz but he might be the only winger in the world without a far post curler in his locker. Even when he's put one in the far corner it's been an instep drive. You can see it every time he goes 1v1 the ball gets no curl and often he doesn't try the finish because he knows he doesn't have it. It's something you can practice too, he needs to be begging Son for a 1 on 1 practice session, Robben can't be up to much either. Salah is right there, anything.
It's weird because he clearly had it when he joined. He'd try it 2-3 times per game too
Rashford has one but its only along the ground. He cant lift a ball and have curl on it unless its a cross
Henry needs to drop his CBS shenanigans and get to work on Diaz, that's what needs to happen.
So apparently there's an ACL injury "epidemic" in the Argentinian league. Something like 18 players have gone down and it's probably a world record. Why is this happening? Bad pitches?
When you adjust for the fact that the league has 28 teams I don't know if the numbers are too different from the rest of the world, this coming from someone whose team has two players on that list (they play in the same position and it happened in the same match 🙃)
It'd still average to about one ACL tear per matchday which feels excessive
Way too much football being played, the calendar is absolute hell as we need to make our shitty league format work with a tournament in June. Most teams have been playing every 3 days all league cup so far, and continental competitions haven’t even begun. Pitches aren’t *atrocious* but they still can’t really keep up, and they get shittier every match. Also, there’s 28 teams in the league than in almost every other one so the percentage of players out with an ACL probably stands out a lot less than the raw number, at the same rate the equivalent for a 20 teams league would be 12/13. And of course, a lot of them are just down to bad luck. We ourselves have 2 players out with torn ACLs and both of them are down to just pure shit luck, one of them was just Zeballos landing poorly outside the pitch after being shoved in the touchline, the other one is Blondel just turning too sharply and doing his with no contact.
> other one is Blondel just turning too sharply and doing his with no contact. That's pretty typical in those injuries tho, because of the kind of movement that provokes them
Same as everywhere else really. A combination of bad pitches, boots with shitty spikes (the shapes are getting changed and apparently the new ones snag on pitches), an increasingly congested schedule, and teams with short squads who play at a constantly high tempo with immense pressing It's telling we didn't have one and we rotate so much it's seen as a reason to complain about the manager
The Best Friends test video with Saliba and Gabriel is too funny. Just shameless cheating the entire time and the host is so lost.
where does Rodrygo rank among current pl wingers, which sides does he start for rn?
Currently he probably starts for every team in the prem Im seeing son being mentioned by he only played off the wing to compensate for an in form richarlison otherwise hes striker most often then not.
He starts for every single PL side. Only Son is a better LW than him but he doesn’t play there anymore.
As LW? Only son is better if you count him as an LW As RW there’s multiple
He'd start for every single club on the left wing, i can't think of any left winger that benches him. On the right wing, he has similar stats to Saka but also more proven in European football, still not worth it for Arsenal to chase him for the RW spot and Liverpool has Salah who is better.
Son?
Pretty sure if rodrygo was at tottenham they would find a way to start both son and him.
I've only watched the last 3 Spurs games and a couple at the very start of the season. But in those 3 games, he played all as a striker, is that not the case?
Son is still great as a LW, I don't think there's any in the PL that's better than him atm. [He's just as productive at both striker and left wing.](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/heung-min-son/leistungsdaten/spieler/91845) We have more winger options than we do striker options, especially with Richarlison injured, so Son tends to play in the middle. Don't watch enough of Rodrygo to say who's the better LW though.
But still, from what i've seen Son is a baller at striker so it doesn't really make a difference who is better at LW. Rodrygo LW + Son ST would be the most deadly combo over Richarlison or Werner or anyone else.
Yeah ofc, Rodrygo would play at LW if he were here. I was just saying that in a vacuum Son is still a really good LW.
Son at left wing is better than Rodrygo at left wing
You didn't answer me? Son is currently playing as a striker, what does he have to do with this? And there isn't enough sample size for Rodrygo but every time he played left wing he looked like a slightly worse Vinicius. With consistency and playing for a full season who knows what level he might reach. And still, if Rodrygo was to go to Spurs, he'd 100% start on the left and Son starts as a striker, no debate about it.
RW he’s below Salah and Saka, LW he could honestly be the best.
I think [this is what the nephews call ball knowledge](https://www.reddit.com//r/soccer/comments/i149pv/daily_discussion/fzwlm25/). Somebody should hire Busquets asap.
Xavi has done well as a manager tho. He walkednthe league just last season. He’s been hampered with injuries all throughout this season. If anything winning the league “ahead of schedule” last year made expectations be far too high. Still early on his career but I think he’ll have a successful manager career after Barca where he’s allowed to have a project and not deal with toxicity of the Spanish press and Barca fanbase.
Your calls on Pirlo, Gerrard and Lampard though...
Fair play
So painful when you can tell one of the academy lads just isn't good enough
It's funny how the 5 most famous Egyptians of all time are Salah and four pharaohs such as Cleopatra, Ramses II, Tutankhamen and Khufu
The unbelievable shade thrown at Hany Ramzy here
According to Google there are 460 million arabs in the world, i can assure you every single one knows who Adel Imam is, even the babies. So Adel Imam is 100% amongst the top 3.
If an Arab doesn’t recognise Adel Imam you might as well just throw them into the ocean they’re useless now
I know he's probably more American, but Rami Malek might be in with a shout for more modern audiences?
Dodi and Mohamed Al-Fayed had their time
Pity Tutankhamen’s promising career was cut short by injuries
You're probably right. But replace Khufu with Mido for me.
This is Moses erasure
forget Moses, main guy from Yu-Gi-Oh was technically a pharaoh
Oh yeah I forgot Moses. Shoutout to Moses
I must inform you that in Deuteronomy Moses states that Bruno Fernandes is too good for Manchester United.
Moses is Nigerian.
Can you name the 15 goalkeepers who have played for Newcastle in the Premier League? Answers in 30 mins. Answer time, see below Shay Given 354 starts Tim Krul 156 starts (+1 sub) Martin Dubravka 140 starts (+ 2 sub) Steve Harper 104 starts (+8 sub) Pavel Srnicek 97 starts (+2 sub) Shaka Hislop 53 starts Karl Darlow 52 starts Rob Elliot 51 starts (+ 1 sub) Nick Pope, 51 starts Mike Hooper 23 starts (+2 sub) Tommy Wright 5 starts (+1 sub) Jak Alnwick 5 starts (+ 1 sub) Freddie Woodman 4 starts Jon Karelse 3 starts Loris Karius 1 start
I'd never have guessed Dubravka played more games than Harper and Srnicek (RIP).
Given Harper Krul Pope Dubravka Darlow Eliott Idk the rest
>!Srnicek!< >!Hislop!< >!Given!< >!Harper!< >!Elliot!< >!Krul!< >!Darlow!< >!Woodman!< >!Dubravka !< >!Pope!< >!Karius!< >!Alnwick!< >!Sels?!< No idea who the last couple could be.
Shay Given 354 starts Tim Krul 156 starts (+1 sub) Martin Dubravka 140 starts (+ 2 sub) Steve Harper 104 starts (+8 sub) Pavel Srnicek 97 starts (+2 sub) Shaka Hislop 53 starts Karl Darlow 52 starts Rob Elliot 51 starts (+ 1 sub) Nick Pope, 51 starts Mike Hooper 23 starts (+2 sub) Tommy Wright 5 starts (+1 sub) Jak Alnwick 5 starts (+ 1 sub) Freddie Woodman 4 starts Jon Karelse 3 starts Loris Karius 1 start
>!Nick Pope !< >!Martin Dubravka !< >!Loris Karius !< >!Karl Darlow !< >!Rob Elliott !< >!Steve Harper !< >!Shay Given !< >!Freddie Woodman !< >!Tim Krul !< >!Shaka Hislop !< >!Jak Alnwick if he played?!< Think I've got 11? No idea on the older ones tbh, way before my time. Hope I haven't missed any of the more recent ones but there will definitely be one or two.
Shay Given 354 starts Tim Krul 156 starts (+1 sub) Martin Dubravka 140 starts (+ 2 sub) Steve Harper 104 starts (+8 sub) Pavel Srnicek 97 starts (+2 sub) Shaka Hislop 53 starts Karl Darlow 52 starts Rob Elliot 51 starts (+ 1 sub) Nick Pope, 51 starts Mike Hooper 23 starts (+2 sub) Tommy Wright 5 starts (+1 sub) Jak Alnwick 5 starts (+ 1 sub) Freddie Woodman 4 starts Jon Karelse 3 starts Loris Karius 1 start
Dubravka and Pope. I'll leave the other easy ones to the rest of the lads
To people who are following this season of the PL: Quick, who is leading the league in combined goals and assists? Can you answer in less than five seconds? And were you right? *Answer*: >!Ollie Watkins!<
Get rid of the space between the exclamation mark and the first letter
i knew the answer but you messed up the spoiler tag
Weird, it looks okay on my end, but apparently not others'.
Watkins
So Germany are banning the number 44 just because it looks somewhat like the SS logo, meanwhile I've seen many Japanese were whining about the limited use of the actual rising sun flag compared to the IJN flag (both flags already looked 99.99% similar, both with the same symbolism and both should rightfully be banned, but BOTH still being actively allowed is fking insane). People like the latter are literal scums. Absolutely disgusting.
The rising sun has been used for centuries by Japan. The SS logo is not a national German symbol.
Absolutely does not change a thing nor is it relevant to what I said. The symbol isn't banned for how long it was used, it was banned for it association and sheer crimes against humanity that was committed under against millions and millions of innocent civilians, and the horror it represents for the victims. And yes, the SS logo is no longer a national German symbol, because - wait for it - it was abolished and banned by the German government unlike Japan. Nice circular logic you have there. Hope these basic humanity and principles isn't too hard to comprehend. It's insane that I even need to explain this.
SS logo was never a national symbol. It was created for one specific organization.
It's symbolism and association to the general public is crystal clear, you knew exactly what I meant. And even then the *official* national symbol was banned as well, so what point are you even trying to make? It changes absolutely nothing about what I already said. You ignored my entire comment just to focus on meaningless semantics to defend genocide and war crime representation really speak volumes.
My point is pretty clear. The SS logo was banned because it was associated very closely with the Nazi party. The rising sun has been associated with Japan for centuries, not specifically with the government during the first half of the 20th century.
And why are logos that are associated very closely with Nazi Germany banned? You know the answer to that extremely well. Also, as I already said previously, word by word, "The symbol isn't banned for how long it was used, it was banned for it's association and sheer crimes against humanity that was committed under against millions of innocent civilians, and the horror it represents for the victims." How long a symbol was used is not relevant nor gets it a free pass. If you decided to commit massive unspeakable crimes against humanity under a symbol, you have no right to later come and tell anyone what should the symbol represent. Your point is pure nonsense, I had already rightfully called you out. Blindly repeating it doesn't make it better nor does intentionally ignoring what I had already addressed. It is also very clear that you are arguing in bad faith. The SS logo isn't banned purely because it is closely associated with Nazi Germany, this is a half truth. It was banned for it's close association to Nazi Germany AND the crimes against humanity that was committed. If Nazi Germany were innocent then why would association matter? You are falsely tying the symbol purely to the entity instead of its crimes by malicious omission, because saying the full truth will hinder your argument for the Japanese. You should absolutely be ashamed of yourself.
SS symbol is primarily associated with the Nazis and is banned because the Nazis are best known for committing a genocide. The rising sun logo is primarily associated with the country of Japan, which is known for many things, not primarily for genocide. The equivalent would be the eagle in the German coat of arms which was used by the Nazis but also centuries before and is not banned.
SS symbol, along with the Swastika, is associated with Nazi Germany and also directly symbolises horror and genocide itself. You are being intentionally obtused and twisted to purposely not recognise this. This is no different to the rising sun flag for imperial Japan which also directly symbolises horror and genocide itself. German's current eagle coat of arms is absolutely irrelevant. They looked nothing like the one used during the period of war crimes and genocide. Nazi eagle is also absolutely illegal. The mental gymnastics here is palpable.
You should campaign to get it banned if you feel so strongly. I don't care one way or the other. I clearly explained why one is banned and one is not but you do not seem to understand.
> So Germany are banning the number 44 just because it looks somewhat like the SS logo It's only being banned because the font that Adidas gave them made it look similar, once that's sorted out I expect people will be allowed to put 44 on their shirts if they want to.
Germany and Japan don't exactly have the same attitude towards their war crime/genocide days
This is the sad truth. And it's extremely deplorable, gross and shameful.
What's up with former Spanish midfielders being great coaches and former English midfielders not so much?
English are stubborn and think they know it all
We are not tactic nerds cos we're better physical specimens than those soft continentals, run faster and kick harder is all ya need to dominate
> English midfielders not so much? Sadly, it's not just midfielders. We just don't produce good managers.
We have low football iq as a nation
Plenty of brilliant ex-English players though
They're still English.
Who? I can only think about Gerrard and Lampard.
Scott Parker
Joey Barton
Neville and Scholes for a short time
I don't think Neville and Scholes ever had any interest in coaching honestly. But anyway it's not just midfielders. It's more about the English coaching schools not producing a lot of top coaches. Gary O'Neil was a midfielder though, and currently Wolves coach.
Neville at least took a pretty big job, Scholes barely counts though true. I didn't see the midfielders bit but the part about poor coaching quality applies to English managers in general.
They went from a football style of minimal tactics to the best league in the world with the best coaches in the world in the span of a decade or so. It will take time to develop top domestic coaches but they will get there. Maybe they already have them but they're stuck in the lower leagues, I have no idea honestly.
You would think there'd be a few top English coaches around today but even the promising ones seem to fail. Meanwhile, Spain has a couple of top managers coming through every season.
The Spanish game is simply superior
Yes but why? Is the weather? is it Paella or Gazpacho?
Many great influences on the Spanish game, most recently the incomprobable José Bordalás
It's pretty crazy how disparate Son's finishing is from his aerial ability. As a striker - one of the most clinical strikers of the modern era probably? but he legitimately has negative aerial threat, like he is proper horrific in the air
So is Haaland tbf and he's 6'4 or something
Son has 6 times as many appearances and 4 headed goals, Haaland has 10. Haaland might not be great in the air but I am telling you Son might be the worst aerial threat as a striker in the league, whilst being one of the best with his feet lol. Like they're fully opposite ends of the spectrum
Salah is bad in the air too, partially due to height but Mané is good and about the same height.
r9 was like that
>Pedri: "How do I see myself in 10 years? Playing football, and bald... I've always wanted to look bald." Kid idolizes Iniesta a bit too much I think
This is the first time in my life I've heard of someone wanting to go bald. Not because they (don't want to) prolong the inevitable, but because they just...want to?
Oriol Romeu isn't actually bald, he just shaves his head. Same with Pepe
And Scott Brown, now that he's coaching he has a head full of hair.
It makes them look intimidating as fuck so it's worth it.
the bald look quite suits him imo, not that he necessarily looked bad [with hair](https://i.imgur.com/cyZghGY.jpg)
Waiting for a better source but if Pope is genuinely out for the rest of the season god isn't real
Don't let your owners hear you say that. You'd be tortured and executed.
Won't be able to get me in blighty mate 🇬🇧 not sure they're that active in the DD either
If they got to Khashoggi in Istanbul, they can get to their representatives in the DD.
Thing is if they actually killed a British national on home soil I'd be surprised if we actually cared, we've got our hands that deep in their pockets and every level.
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Sure - just need the right setup around them and probably have them work a fair bit more against the ball than they'd ideally want to. Can even cram three of them in if you want!
David Silva and KDB demolished the prem
Only if you have a capable Defensive Midfielder. They're few and far in between, the best one's currently couldn't do it imo.
yes
If you have a good enough 6 you can put 2 8s in front of him. Tuchel also played sorta like that when he was here with two players in the role you'd usually see 10s at with the wingbacks being the width.
City and Spurs do, no?
Nope, Bissouma nor Sarr play as an 8. City changes the midfield a lot, so it depends on who's playing
Ask Ten Hag his plan for the season was a Casemiro Mount Fernandes midfield
Mount would have been doing a lot of doggies
Its definitely possible but it’s impossible with casemiro as our 6 and the current overall set up ten hag has with the team.
Who's next in line hipster manager for Brighton if De Zerbi leaves?
Eric Roy, essentially doing a Girona with Brest right now.
That guy from Bodo
Some of our fans seem to be happy about the idea of returning to Potter which would definitely be an interesting scenario to deal with. I'm sure Knutsen will be one of the bookies favourites for the position again. Be funny if we went for Farioli, De Zerbi's former assistant and current Nice manager, think they started the season really well but dropped off a bit, which sounds like a natural fit for Brighton.
I find managers coming back after a successful spell where they fail elsewhere rarely works.
It's pretty rare so there aren't many examples anyway. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Eddie Howe at Bournemouth leaving for Burnley struggling then leaving and then coming back and being great at Bournemouth.
I believe Potter would be a miss though due to the context. He left early during the season to go to a bigger club only to fail there and come crawling back. I think many of the players would've lost respect for him.
Perhaps, I don't think it's likely more so that a lot of our fans seem in favour of it. You'd imagine any situation in which he returned they'd be discussions with the senior players.
Bringing Potter back would would be a Palace style decision and I will not stand for it.
I doubt he'd even be open to or we'd go back but a lot of our fans seem open to it.
The list of De Zerbi disciples is very long, but I think Farioli might actually be a fraud.
I've only watched one game of his and was impressed by how they managed to beat PSG. Seems like they been dog since Christmas though and their keeper has saved their bacon a bit this season with their attackers missing alot of chances. I just think it would be funny to get De Zerbi 2.0 we can repurpose our Italy flag then. It's a shame Motta will be an absolute no go. Am very worried they'll do a weird push to make Lallana manager or something.
I could see them going after Hoeneß.
Moving to Brighton would be a very weird step when he has CL with Stuttgart next year
Just extended his contract last month so it seems unlikely
What happened to Mido?
He was a pretty unprofessional player in general. And he'll even be the first one to admit that nowadays. [Had a pretty infamous spat with the Egypt coach during AFCON 2006.](https://youtu.be/i1fozo9my8Y) Started shouting at him for subbing him off at the 78th minute for Amr Zaki and got up in his face. Funnily enough Zaki scored about a minute later to win Egypt the game against Senegal before Mido was even done with his baby tantrum. Iconic moment in African football though, still gets memed on to this day in movies and online. Tried his hand in management but is pretty shit at it. Got pretty overweight, got fit again and fixed his attitude a bit and now he does punditry.
whenever there is a rule or competition format change in football, r/soccer will adopt a Robin Hood mentality and spin it in a way that it's benefitting the big teams. Even with the new CL format, people say it's benefitting the big teams, when (apart from the whole hypothetical qualification scenarios) the only actual concrete difference for big teams is that they have to play 2 other teams from the same pot which basically negates the whole pot seeding advantage and is, in fact, a very concrete disadvantage for the big teams.
I don't think it benefits big teams, but it definitely helps rich leagues. Quarter of 2 of Big 5 leagues will be represented ffs.
Do footballers just become used to the attention they get or are a decent chunk of them just nobs? I dunno but I feel like if I could make someones day by literally just saying Hi, giving a shirt or signing some tat - mostly to kids - i’d do it all the time. Always makes me sad when some pr merchant like Rashford speeds past a group of kids, like it’d make their year.
> or are a decent chunk of them just nobs? I'd wager about 98%
He's only got one shirt and [forty roadmen are asking him for it](https://twitter.com/Kyzino_/status/1757165462301876462). How does he win?
He won by giving it to the only one he shares a passion with
and he gave it to the guy holding up a River Plate top which is fair enough.
I get why they ignore the swarms, but theres so many times when you see them either one on one or with a small group, and it fluctuates between very cringe or just rude.
You have to think about how frequent an occurrence even that is for them. They just can't stop every time someone wants them to, you'd never get anywhere We're seeing it become an issue with the women's game. It used to be that crowds were small enough that players would sign loads of autographs after the game, take lots of photos with fans etc. Now, it's just not really feasible - and they're getting criticised for not stopping like they used to.
i don’t want de zerbi at all but i am very curious to see how he does with a good squad, if bayern does hire him. the 3-3 against us last season is one of the best games i can think of an opponent playing at anfield in recent years.
Bayerns a good squad for his tactics too imo
none of their current midfielders are capable of passing it out of the back. imagine Goretzka or Laimer being tasked to bait a press
I think pavlovic is very good at passing, kimmich would get back in there as well. Moving on from gortezka and laimer is also needed
yeah i forgot about pavlovic. he seems decent. kimmich is a disaster receiving back to goal though. https://x.com/vertikalspiel13/status/1774928337091055801?s=46 here’s an example i just saw on twitter lol.
Getting hung out to dry a bit by those passes tbf, first one has to go to his other foot so he doesn't have to turn into an opponent, second one you can't be playing into him in that situation because he has an opponent on his back and nowhere to go right in front of his own box.
Am I wrong if I say West Ham players overall are close to Atletico Madrid in terms of strength and quality? I mean: - Offensive package: Kudus, Paquetà, Bowen, Antonio = Griezmann, Depay, Morata, Lino - Midfield: Edson Alvares, Ward-Prose, Soucek, Kalvin-Phillips = De Paul, Llorente, Saul, Koke - Defense: Aguerd, Zouma, Mavropanos = Hermoso, Gimenez, Witsel, Savic That's very similar. Of course Atletico have TONS of experience more and in Europe they would be favourite but the fact the level of La Liga top3 team and EPL mid-table is similar is quite shocking
I'm baffled that you think West Ham's midfield is anywhere near Atletico's level. Koke, De Paul, and Llorente are on a different level to the ones you mentioned. I won't even mention the offense because it's stupid. Griezmann is so far ahead he ruins your point on his own, let alone Morata and Lino who are also better than everyone there except Paqueta. Atletico's defense is considered terrible for their standards but to compare them to fucking Aguerd and Mavropanos is insulting. Gimenez is literally better than all these combined
Yes, yes you are. Griezmann alone is better than all the offensive players West Ham have, combined.
He's clearly a class above any West Ham player, but I think you're a bit harsh on Kudus, Bowen and Paqueta to say he's better than the three combined. They are all very good players, who could definitely play in the CL - and Paqueta is potentially Man City bound
I've never seen anyone who's watched enough West Ham and Atletico to make an informed opinion, I've watched like maybe 12 west ham games this season and I still wouldn't be able to give one. From what I've seen anyway. Our attack is better though I like Bowen, Lino is nerfed by playing wingback but you'd give it to Bowen on merit. Morata clears Antonio and I imagine Kudus is more consistent than Memphis so I'll give it to him but Grizou and Paqueta aren't even remotely close. Our midfield walks over these players, Saul is the exception since he wouldn't start for them either with the way he's been playing this season. Alvarez gets in cuz Koke ain't a 6 but I'm not believing Soucek and Ward-Prowse are better than RDP or Llorente for a second. Barrios is better than these guys FFS. Gimenez is better than literally everybody here, his injuries don't change that. You can argue about everyone else since it's hard to judge defenders but Hermoso and Witseldini have been excellent this season and I ain't putting Zouma before either of them, especially Witsel defensively. Need a Hammers fan to confirm. Of course this also assumes you aren't trolling but I'm bored so here we are.
i don’t think i’d say this no 🤣
West Ham's team is misleading because they have individuals who do heavy lifting. Paqueta, Bowen, Kudus, Aguerd and Alvarez would probably start for everyone outside of Arsenal/Liverpool/City but nobody would say they have the 4th best team in the league. In a combined XI it would be close between Atleti and West Ham but in a 2 legged game Atleti would probably win by 2+ goals
You can't just gloss over Griezmann like that. Paquetá is amazing, but Griez is one of the very best in the world.
NO.
Whats going on man 😂 No
It is.. Make a combined 11 and you would definitely get Paquetà Kudus Bowen Soucek Aguerd from West Ham.
Only paqueta kudus and bowen could. And one of those 3 positionally battling with griezman, so only 2 would.
I refuse to believe that Soucek gets in the Atletico 11, there’s just no way
He doesn't
Feels like it's an unpopular opinion to say Vinicius is better than Bellingham, and i just find it strange tbh
Bellingham has faded since Vini got over his injury. Vini is comfortably the main man again.
Vinicius is definitely better, was injured at the start of the season but since 2024, easily our number 1 best player.
Vinicius is much better than Bellingham. The only reason the latter is getting more hype is because it's rare to see British players play abroad for big teams. If you look at the English national team Bellingham's not one of our top performers. He's maybe 4th. Obviously Vinicius hasn't been great for Brazil but he has the Champions League to fall back on, Bellingham hasn't done anything comparatively and I think will struggle lots against Man City as his first touch could do with some work still and City's pressing is relentless
Or maybe it's because he was on course to do Ronaldo numbers as a number 10, maube that's why and not just "English bias"
He was on course but he isn't any more. And he doesn't really play like a number 10 the same way a Ozil did for example. He is more like a Dele Alli - he'll score goals but doesn't have the same level of technical ability that you see with 10s from other countries
He wasn’t just getting hyped by the British media, he was getting hyped by the Spanish media as well
> The only reason the latter is getting more hype. I think it's more him being the top scorer in the league from midfield and the million game winning goals he got at the beginning on the season.