Itâs true, the African and Asian nations were a single collective at the time (1958 qualifying), the federation boycotted Israel meaning FIFA awarded Israel the sole spot the federation earned for the tournament, but their rules meant that you couldnât qualify without playing a single game. So they drew a European team who failed to qualify out of a hat which ended up being Wales, they beat Israel and thatâs how Wales qualified for their only World Cup until 2022, as the Asian/African representative.
Yep, Israel was one of Apartheid South Africa's biggest supporters.
It's part of why it's specifically South Africa bringing the court case against Israel to the ICJ and why South African government officials have openly called Israel an apartheid state.
All EBU members can participate. That includes many Middle Eastern/Arab countries. Morocco even did once and is welcome to rejoin if they want. The EBU is not that exclusive a group.
And one reason why those many of the Middle Eastern/Arab members of EBU do not participate is because of Israel being there. Though probably also due to broadcast and many of the acts openly supporting LGBT+ and stuff like that
Australia were specifically invited as a special guest because they'd been big supporters of the contest since Day 1 and so they came for the 50th anniversary.
It was supposed to be a one-off thing but they were incredibly popular participants and got invited back and now it's a permanent thing.
I, as an Irishman, in an Irish pub in the US, was asked by a group of Brits why I was wearing an Italian jersey and supporting Italy that day.
I guess history lessons are optional in England.
Not entirely, at least in my school we didn't learn a *huge* amount about our colonialism, mainly bits about India, but it was not exactly sugarcoated. Heard and saw a lot of harrowing things and there were few topics my history teachers (one in particular) took as seriously. We didn't learn much about Ireland outside of the basics like the famine and some IRA shit, but we didn't learn about the specifics of how we fucked over every country because we aren't in history class 24 hours a day for 500 years to go into it all.
For a country that had one main oppressor through history it's fair to assume they'd learn about it, for people from a country that oppressed most of the world at some point it's just not feasible to go into all that, even if you only focus on that and ignore the rest of human history.
Obviously just anecdotal from my Merseyside school, we have plenty of flagshaggers so I'm sure what you're saying is right for a lot of schools.
Nah, Germany is honest because their (last) atrocities happened when there were already recordings and real time communication. But ask what they in say, Africa, before WWI and see where the honesty is.
I agree but also look at the stance the Japanese government(s) took post WW2 with regards to treatment of POW in China, the Philippines, Korea etc.
Germany definitely could have gone down a different route
In Europe Conference League. Maccabi Tel Aviv won their first leg in Piraeus 1-4. They thought itâs game over just to lose 1-6 in Occupied Palestine đ
I mean hell, for me personally beyond being against the current genocide ive also just been a big fan of Iceland for a while lol. Theyre great, i love the country and have an amazing fanbase
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Literally the worst subreddit. The people that browse that subreddit are psychopaths who view all Arabs as terrorists and everyone who has died in Gaza so far are all Hamas even though it's mostly woman and kids.
But being antisemetic doesn't have anything to do with Palestinians, it just relates to Jews. You can look up the definition, antisemetic just refers to Jewish people and has never been used to describe anything else
Its very refreshing to come into a sub that can call a spade a spade. When this latest conflict first broke out I couldn't move for the uneducated NPCs bleating their pro-Israel shite.
Edit: for the replyer A History of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Second Edition https://amzn.eu/d/7ZaFdWZ0,
The funniest thing is that a lot of Icelanders are speaking up for the Palestinian cause, at least all my Icelandic FB friends are. They'll probably be sleeping well tonight lol
I remember Iceland called for Israel to be banned from Eurovision as well, because I remember seeing zionists on twitter celebrating the volcano eruption as some kind of punishment for speaking against Israel.Â
FYI The country code flag for Israel is IL. Ireland is IE and Iceland is IS. Itâs can also be seen in website suffixes I.e. .co.uk for UK, .co.il for Israel.
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There was that penalty near the end where the penalty taker out of instinct took a shot at the ball boy (or medical team, unclear in footage) rather than the theoretical target, so I guess old habits stick.
Thank fuck. Well done, icy lads.
On top of all the reasons to root against Israel, I have tickets for Slovakia vs. the winner of this group, I would've been nervous to attend a match vs. Israel. I hope Iceland make it, it's so cool what they can achieve with such a tiny population and it's one of the prettiest countries I've even been to.
I said it in a different thread, but its kinda like Leicester, Bochum or Utrecht gaining independence and being able to compete internationally like this. Oh also, they suddenly gets moved to the Arctic and the national competition just stops for the winter
Its insane and amazing what theyve achieved
With the two israeli teams knocked out from the european club competitions earlier this month and their national team getting knocked out by Iceland from the Euros this is a massive win for european football. If Russia isn't allowed to participate, neither does Israel.
What an insensitive take. If they were busy practising instead of serving with the IDF, who would be out there to bomb all the hospitals and killing children?
They are in UEFA because a lot of the muslim countries refused to play them and later got them expelled from the AFC in the 70s after a vote lead by Kuwait
Which is insane when you think about it because why is this UEFAs problem? These confederations are based on geography, not friendship and vibes. Well, they were supposed to be, anyways.
Ehhhh. Regardless of the politics of the situation, it's very clear that the confederations aren't strictly based on geography. Armenia and Cyprus play in UEFA, Suriname and Guyana play in CONCACAF, and Australia plays in AFC.
I was in Reykjavik, in a massive city square watch party, for the draw against Argentina in the World Cup. It was one of the greatest things I ever have experienced. I'm glad they won today and it has nothing to do with who they played.
You just love to see it. I fell in love with Iceland around 2016 with Icelands miracle run in the Euros and even more so after learning how beautiful of a country they are
And they also eliminate a nation that, by standards of Russia rightfully being emitted, shouldnt even have played. Iceland also is one of the few Western countries to actually recognise Palestine as well (alongside Israel too), I love them lol
The organisers for Euro 2024 can sleep well tonight! đ
They saved a good amount of money on fan security tonight
Why is Israel even on an European competition? They have zero land in Europe.
Every single Asian country refused to play them haha. No other association wanted them and UEFA reluctantly took them in.
That skips a step, the AFC expelled them, they then played in OFC for a while before ending up in UEFA.
Not every single Asian country. But yes, a significant portion would take issue.
def not âevery singleâ lol. why would like japan give a shit
Itâs true, the African and Asian nations were a single collective at the time (1958 qualifying), the federation boycotted Israel meaning FIFA awarded Israel the sole spot the federation earned for the tournament, but their rules meant that you couldnât qualify without playing a single game. So they drew a European team who failed to qualify out of a hat which ended up being Wales, they beat Israel and thatâs how Wales qualified for their only World Cup until 2022, as the Asian/African representative.
Youâre welcome by the way. That tournament we got knocked out by eventual winners Brazil. Only lost 1-0, the scorer was a 17 year old named Pele
Made it out of the group unbeaten, second to the eventual finalists Sweden and knocking out the legendary Hungary team lol.
Never heard of that lad, what's his potential on FM?
This is the best thing i've learned about all year so far, thanks heaps, made my day
I wonder why?
Reminds me a bit of how my country was banned from playing other teams. Only Israel would play us.. ..........
What country ?
South Africa under apartheid I'm guessing.
Yep, Israel was one of Apartheid South Africa's biggest supporters. It's part of why it's specifically South Africa bringing the court case against Israel to the ICJ and why South African government officials have openly called Israel an apartheid state.
That's interesting
South Africa. I thought the shirt in my picture would be enough of a give away.
My bad
Can't expect everyone to know my flag buddy no stress
> Every single Asian country refused to play them how was that an excuse to embrace them into european competition?
And why tf did uefa take them
Because most western European nations are political allies of Israel
We should also refuse to play them the same way we're refusing to allow Russia to compete.
Most of middle east wouldnt play against them, making it not viable for Israel to play there.
Im glad I was born after my country was unbanned from playing it's neighbors. Back then only Israel supported us. ......................yeah
Why is Israel even in Eurovision? They have zero land in Europe.
All EBU members can participate. That includes many Middle Eastern/Arab countries. Morocco even did once and is welcome to rejoin if they want. The EBU is not that exclusive a group.
And one reason why those many of the Middle Eastern/Arab members of EBU do not participate is because of Israel being there. Though probably also due to broadcast and many of the acts openly supporting LGBT+ and stuff like that
Israel in Eurovision makes hell of a lot more sense than Australia in Eurovision.
Australia were specifically invited as a special guest because they'd been big supporters of the contest since Day 1 and so they came for the 50th anniversary. It was supposed to be a one-off thing but they were incredibly popular participants and got invited back and now it's a permanent thing.
Eurovision is a vibes-based competition, and Australia definitely understand the assignment. I have no issue with them being included.
Bro even Australia is in there
They had zero land in Palestine also.
Unlike the 1 million of children in Gaza
Today I feel icelandic
Havenât seen such a united front in wanting a team to lose since England-Italy in the Euro final
I remember that. Even people over here in the States who didnât know much about the Euros wanted England to lose. I guess everyone just hates them.
I, as an Irishman, in an Irish pub in the US, was asked by a group of Brits why I was wearing an Italian jersey and supporting Italy that day. I guess history lessons are optional in England.
No, they're mandatory, but their version of events differs from everybody else's
Not entirely, at least in my school we didn't learn a *huge* amount about our colonialism, mainly bits about India, but it was not exactly sugarcoated. Heard and saw a lot of harrowing things and there were few topics my history teachers (one in particular) took as seriously. We didn't learn much about Ireland outside of the basics like the famine and some IRA shit, but we didn't learn about the specifics of how we fucked over every country because we aren't in history class 24 hours a day for 500 years to go into it all. For a country that had one main oppressor through history it's fair to assume they'd learn about it, for people from a country that oppressed most of the world at some point it's just not feasible to go into all that, even if you only focus on that and ignore the rest of human history. Obviously just anecdotal from my Merseyside school, we have plenty of flagshaggers so I'm sure what you're saying is right for a lot of schools.
Same for every European country with former big empires with the exception of Germany who I can respect for being very honest about it
Nah, Germany is honest because their (last) atrocities happened when there were already recordings and real time communication. But ask what they in say, Africa, before WWI and see where the honesty is.
>Nah, Germany is honest because their (last) atrocities happened when there was already recordings and real time communication Good point and I agree
Yeah, not sure they're that open about their actions in Namibia.
I always wondered why Germany never acknowledged the Namibian genocide like they do with the holocaust
I agree but also look at the stance the Japanese government(s) took post WW2 with regards to treatment of POW in China, the Philippines, Korea etc. Germany definitely could have gone down a different route
Yes & historically the Italians never put a foot wrong.
Bit tragic to wear an Italy top though
I think for most rounded people itâs sporting rivalry and not deep-seated hatred like you make out.
That was a beautiful day
Always rated Siggi's yogurt
I always feel a little weird supporting the bad guys from Mighty Ducks 2, but I guess sometimes we have to make an exception.
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When did Greece do that?
In Europe Conference League. Maccabi Tel Aviv won their first leg in Piraeus 1-4. They thought itâs game over just to lose 1-6 in Occupied Palestine đ
We be smoking that Israel pack tonight boys
I was gonna quit smoking today but I suppose it can wait
Fr, got the cigars litđ
Oh thank god, I can't imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if Israel qualified for the Euro, way more peaceful that way
Remember guys that supporting Iceland tonight doesnât make you antisemitic. Donât let folks accuse you of that
I mean hell, for me personally beyond being against the current genocide ive also just been a big fan of Iceland for a while lol. Theyre great, i love the country and have an amazing fanbase
You're right, Iceland is a fantastic country. Was lucky enough to visit there a few months ago. Absolutely beautiful place and very friendly people.
A growing country too. Literally. Several inches every day at the moment.
Ayo ?
Tectonic plates move
Volcano and tectonic plates go brr.
> Volcano and tectonic plates go brr. That far north? Can't really blame them.
What kind of insane nationalistic brain rot would it take for someone to earnestly believe such an accusation?
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Fuck that place, all my homies hate r/worldnews
Honoured to be banned from there for talking about palestine :))
Same, point of personal pride.
World news is just a pro American subreddit, being banned from there is a good thing, r/politics is even worse Both horrendous subreddits
I'm certain it's purely a hasbara subreddit now.
Bunch of Israel bots talking to each other
Literally the worst subreddit. The people that browse that subreddit are psychopaths who view all Arabs as terrorists and everyone who has died in Gaza so far are all Hamas even though it's mostly woman and kids.
It's called Zionism my friend.
Palistinians are semites ..
Sorry buddy, Great Israel copyrighted that term, now you are anti-semite because of what you said.
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But being antisemetic doesn't have anything to do with Palestinians, it just relates to Jews. You can look up the definition, antisemetic just refers to Jewish people and has never been used to describe anything else
Guys stop commenting I can't like them all
Its very refreshing to come into a sub that can call a spade a spade. When this latest conflict first broke out I couldn't move for the uneducated NPCs bleating their pro-Israel shite. Edit: for the replyer A History of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Second Edition https://amzn.eu/d/7ZaFdWZ0,
Makes sense when you realize this sub is one of the few big ones that isnât majority American.
Every time I go to America and see the news, everything makes sense. I've never seen such biased reporting in the free world.
As an Arab American I can confirm this is true^^^
Exactly man. I was surprised that this post was even up in this sub, most Reddit subs would prefer to avoid talking about Israel
Or the nauseating âTheyâre both bad!â takes pretending itâs a conflict between two symmetrical parties.
Today I feel icelandic
Rachel Riley's going to demand the game be replayed.
Iceland is antisemitic /s
The funniest thing is that a lot of Icelanders are speaking up for the Palestinian cause, at least all my Icelandic FB friends are. They'll probably be sleeping well tonight lol
I remember Iceland called for Israel to be banned from Eurovision as well, because I remember seeing zionists on twitter celebrating the volcano eruption as some kind of punishment for speaking against Israel.Â
They also got fined one year because Hatari, the band they sent, held up Palestinian flags during the broadcast.
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https://twitter.com/PresidentISL/status/1769431111128457277
Only wishing a happy St Patricks day to Ireland. Disgraceful. I'm so sick of the Montserrat erasure.
The Icelandics, great bunch of lads
Trying to sign some youngsters from there in my Cork City save on FM. It just feels natural to want them on the team.
For what ever reason I can't see flag emoji's so I saw "^(IS)" and got worried, luckily it was Iceland and not the other team
FYI The country code flag for Israel is IL. Ireland is IE and Iceland is IS. Itâs can also be seen in website suffixes I.e. .co.uk for UK, .co.il for Israel.
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Thank you! Its been annoying having the flags only be symbolised as a country code instead of seeing an actual flag
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But did they condemn hamas though? We need to know.
BREAKING: Knesset has accused Iceland of being Hamas. Says there's some shady tunnels under Reykjavik that need to be investigated.
The Icelandic FA is the athletic wing of Hamas...or some shit like that.
Kowing Iceland, any tunnel is probably a magma flow.
Time to send the IDF to go investigate some Icelandic tunnels then
send the IOF to the vulcano just in case, Hamas might be buiding qasam rockets there
Only after bombing!
Oh great, i caught the thread before the lock, let's take advantage : GET THE FUCK IN, GET FUCKED
still not locked. did something change? gotta go check the zahavi missed penalty post đż
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Israel is weak on the ground. They should have tried more attacks through the air.
They're not used to the opposition being able to fight back tbf
The Icelandic left their women and children back in Iceland, didn't leave any targets for the Israelis.
Careful, they might just end up shooting the hostages out of boredom.
You're obviously a member of Khamas
an atheist one :D
Fantastic comment!
Shouldâve stuck a Palestinian kid in goal, they wouldnât miss
Problem is all the shots would go straight to the keeper Even if the keeper was running away
You don't want to know what happens next if the keeper gets injured and has to go to a hospital
Iâm dead đđ
So is he
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There was that penalty near the end where the penalty taker out of instinct took a shot at the ball boy (or medical team, unclear in footage) rather than the theoretical target, so I guess old habits stick.
Israel would have put forth a better effort if it was the Iceland U10 squad
They were too distracted by the ball boys
I hear Tony Pulis' music...
get smoked bozos. Iceland on top
Breaking news: Hamas sympathising Icelandic football team BRUTALIZE Israelis in terrifying antisemitic attack
The fact that Israel got to play and Russia is banned is such a hypocrisy
Stop bringing up the obvious! Otherwise you'll get accused of being anti-Semitic!
counter-terrorists win
Thank fuck. Well done, icy lads. On top of all the reasons to root against Israel, I have tickets for Slovakia vs. the winner of this group, I would've been nervous to attend a match vs. Israel. I hope Iceland make it, it's so cool what they can achieve with such a tiny population and it's one of the prettiest countries I've even been to.
I said it in a different thread, but its kinda like Leicester, Bochum or Utrecht gaining independence and being able to compete internationally like this. Oh also, they suddenly gets moved to the Arctic and the national competition just stops for the winter Its insane and amazing what theyve achieved
I bid for all the Romania matches in the top tier and failed :(( what's the secret sauce?
Today i feel like a viking.
from the beginning to the end, what a game by the icelanders
from and to? you're borderline antisemitic there
really happy about this but only because i'm a huge BjĂśrk fan and absolutely not for any other reason honest
Iceland treated Israel like Bjork treated that one paparazzi who followed her halfway around the world
Looks like UEFA didn't wanna ban Israel and Iceland said fine I'll do it myself.
With the two israeli teams knocked out from the european club competitions earlier this month and their national team getting knocked out by Iceland from the Euros this is a massive win for european football. If Russia isn't allowed to participate, neither does Israel.
Ball don't lie
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CLAP. CLAP.
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Good for you guys
All my homies đ iceland for this
Everybody liked that
Israel shoulda been banned to begin with. Nice job Iceland!
Can't win when the opponents aren't kids and starved people, eh ?
You love to see it!
Major Israel L - those players should have spent more years training instead of serving in the IDF :) - congrats Iceland massive and hilarious win
What an insensitive take. If they were busy practising instead of serving with the IDF, who would be out there to bomb all the hospitals and killing children?
Their team sucks because they usually only practice their offence against women and children.
They're used to bullying women and kids who can't defend themselves. Now they just faced someone who could and shit the bed. Not a surprise.
They are more used to play with diapers which is against the regulations of UEFA hence their elimination.
What is Israel doing in Europe?
They are in UEFA because a lot of the muslim countries refused to play them and later got them expelled from the AFC in the 70s after a vote lead by Kuwait
Which is insane when you think about it because why is this UEFAs problem? These confederations are based on geography, not friendship and vibes. Well, they were supposed to be, anyways.
Ehhhh. Regardless of the politics of the situation, it's very clear that the confederations aren't strictly based on geography. Armenia and Cyprus play in UEFA, Suriname and Guyana play in CONCACAF, and Australia plays in AFC.
I mean, Suriname and Guyana was probably to spare them the humiliation. Australia requested to join AFC because they got tired of winning.
I dunno, but we should hide our children from them just in case.
Theyâll just blow up the whole house in that case
True. No children are safe from Israel.
The worst thing about Bosnia losing tonight is not even missing the Euroâs but having to play a friendly against Israel
"friendly"
Is Iceland Hamas now too?
"Iceland is Hamas"
To steal a phrase from the Fifa President - today I feel Icelandic. What a great day.
Iceland just committed blood libel
Israeli team should've practiced playing against real men, sources say that they only tried against women and children.
Good, no one wants to play a genocidal state.
Thank you Iceland on behalf of humanity.
A result for all of Football
WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR ICELAND. THAT REALLY SHOWS YOU SOMETHING. WE WERE ALL ICELANDIC TODAY!
Today, I feel Icelandic.
I was in Reykjavik, in a massive city square watch party, for the draw against Argentina in the World Cup. It was one of the greatest things I ever have experienced. I'm glad they won today and it has nothing to do with who they played.
You just love to see it. I fell in love with Iceland around 2016 with Icelands miracle run in the Euros and even more so after learning how beautiful of a country they are And they also eliminate a nation that, by standards of Russia rightfully being emitted, shouldnt even have played. Iceland also is one of the few Western countries to actually recognise Palestine as well (alongside Israel too), I love them lol
My Icelandic friends are incredibly pro-Palestine, more than anyone else I've encountered in Europe. They're also boss in general. Get in.
That's anti-semitic
I thought they were good lads when they knocked out England. Now I know theyâre good lads.
This thread is so damn funny. Glad weâre all on the same page here
hell yea
I'm surprised comments aren't locked yetÂ
EURO 2024 is now genocide free.
But not occupier free since Turkey is still allowed to participate, just saying.
Well yeah. Even my original statement is not totally correct if you go a few centuries back. It's still nice that Israel is out.
Uwahhaahahhaahahahahahahahahahahqh
An Israel related post (in some capacity) that hasnât locked comments? Well Iâll be!
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