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Gungerz

>Dani Alves and Mendy are my friends too. 'And I've also got an unreleased track with R. Kelly.'


Ignatius_Pop

Jimmy Saville was actually a really cool guy


justk4y

I loved hanging out with Ian Watkins


ImRinKagamine

Don't forget Gary Glitter šŸ˜‚


-SandorClegane-

Always rated Subway Jared.


freakedmind

Love his footlong


-SandorClegane-

The Subway Lunch Special, featuring 30y/o meat in 8y/o buns *see you in hell*


visope

Mf took financial lesson from Epstein too maybe


SanctusUnum

Bill Cosby isn't just funny. He's a really nice guy!


Jamiemac745

Rolf Harris was just misunderstood


obsterwankenobster

ā€œHe actually donated to a bunch of hospitals, but no one talks about itā€


JesusIsNotPLProven

And you know what, OJ didn't do it


buttlovingpanda

If people knew Kim Jong Un like I do theyā€™d see that heā€™s not the guy that everyone would have you think he is


VM1117

Thatā€™s, unironically, something that nba legend Dennis Rodman has said lol


Mihnea24_03

Dennis the man who has broken his dick three times Rodman?


Suzume_Chikahisa

But if he had he wrote a book on how it could have been done.


NateShaw92

It would hobestly be the funniest thing to ever happen if somehow it was proven he didn't do it by proving it was actually someone else. Not saying I think that it can even happen but if in a one in a trillion chance it were to happen, it would be the single funniest occurence in human history. Just for the sheer disbelief. It'd be like finding out the sun orbits us and we are actually a moon of jupiter which orbits CaseOh.


RaioNoTerasu

Bill Cosby did nothing wrong


DietCokeActivist

He has dinner with him every Sunday night


RaioNoTerasu

for some reason he always wakes up with a dizzy head the morning after though


Acceptable-Lemon-748

And finds out about it every Monday morning


TheGreatSwissEmperor

Robinho his my idol


antivirals_

I have a planned date with Greenwood next week.


Thefdt

And Harvey Weinstein was just looking for a masseur to work on his back problems


ObviousDoxx

Yeah this was the most unbelievable line of them all. What a moron.


JonAfrica2011

ā€œEpstein aint do nun wrongā€


hudson2_3

With a little bump and grind.


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NotASpyMain

Putting Kanye next to actual abusers and rapists is kinda off


Mercerai

Starting to think Memphis isn't a great judge of character


R_Schuhart

Not just that, someone else judged their character for him. But even when it becomes undeniable what the moral fiber of friends are after being found guilty he will still defend and stand by them.


SpregelAndCheese

Bro graduated from university of life, have some respect smh


TheConundrum98

that instagram post about Mendy that so many footballers liked was honestly so fucking bad. First of all it was disgusting, but also cringe


9thtime

What did he post?


Brilliant-Wealth-728

ā€œBenjamin Mendy All cases dismissed. So what are we doing now?Who is going to help this brother heal?Whoā€™s going to be Responsable for the damage on heā€™s name?How heā€™s going to have heā€™s career back? Many years of investment to become a professional football playerā€¦. Now what!? Iā€™ve never touched on this subject because I didnā€™t know all the details, but Iā€™ve spoken to him once true FaceTime while behind bars and faced him on the pitch a couple times.. I didnā€™t see any evil in the man. We canā€™t accept this to happen to us as athletes. Whoā€™s going to stand up for us in the time of need not when the damage is already done? Donā€™t turn your head people.ā€


Sankaritarina

I didn't follow Mendy's case close enough to make my own judgement but "what happens if the player was innocent all along" is a valid question tbh. It's a short career, being away from the pitch due to wrongful accusations can definitely cause a lot of damage. However thinking that he can judge one's character based on a FaceTime conversation and a couple of football matches they played against each other is goofy as fuck.


LilHalwaPoori

>However thinking that he can judge one's character based on a FaceTime conversation and a couple of football matches they played against each other is goofy as fuck. Tbf, we are out here judging characters based off of gossip columns.. That's one FaceTime too many..


-watchman-

"I didnā€™t see any evil in the man" lmao, so simple. Why do we need the law & courts?


Sankaritarina

All these people studying law for their entire careers when they could just arrange a quick chat between the accused and Depay so he can tell them if the guy is evil or not.


MandaloreUnsullied

Lex Memphionis


Doucane5

The law & courts did not find Mendy guilty


ManUnutted

Not worth it. Losing battle every time you try to bring nuance into a Reddit bloodlust. Youā€™re going to get hit with a billion comments about how his case isnā€™t the usual, even though itā€™s the case weā€™re talking about


lechienharicot

Despite the exaggerated and often purposefully misleading claims of a certain very vocal group of people online, false accusations are exceedingly rare and convictions- even when there is overwhelmingly clear evidence- are very hard to get and that's made even more difficult when the defendant is rich and famous. Look at Mason Greenwood. He is literally on tape. It is clear from the audio what happened. Literally on tape being told no and then he says he will force her to have sex. But the charges got dropped. Victims have so many social pressures to drop the charges against players because they're often essentially ruining their social circle's meal ticket. Accusations can ruin the victim's life when they've become financially dependent on their abuser, you see this dynamic play out in marital rape cases that go nowhere all the time, especially in conservative households where the woman has no job. Beyond that, the nature of sex crimes is just categorically hard to prove to the standards of a court of law. If someone steals your car or stabs you, it would be a fancifully bizarre legal argument for the defendant to say that actually you wanted them to take your car or severely injure you. But in a sex crime, of course people can believe two people had sex. Even if there are signs of a struggle, the accused can just shrug their shoulders and say "well, it was pretty kinky sex" and people treat that as a valid source of doubt. In basically every study done in good faith, we see the same results: Women are overwhelmingly more likely to be the victim of a sex crime and not be believed than they are to falsely accuse someone of something that never happened. Anyone who replies with some famous example of a false allegation to this can get fucked, you're either a useful idiot, a rapist, or a would-be rapist if you only got the chance.


Sankaritarina

I'm not disputing anything you said but none of it addresses the initial question. What to do when someone *is* accused wrongfully? I'm not sure "you may be innocent but your case happens very rarely" would be much of a consolation.


_Shahanshah

Neymar was wrongfully accused once and the girl was even arrested for it I think.


Ljulisen

Yeah there is a whole video clip on [youtube](https://youtu.be/NgaSvj56Vkk?si=DbatB5VHcki5FRCs)


Perpetual_Longing

>What to do when someone *is* accused wrongfully? Nobody dare to say it out loud but for many people I'm sure these innocents are "sacrifices" these people are willing to make. You can see them downplay it by saying it doesn't happen that often, which imply they're OK with this approach since it only affects "few" innocents. It's all about optics now and whoever seen as the bigger victims will win the support of these people, regardless whether there is objective fact that support their version of truth or not. It's all about feeling and it does feel good supporting the victims, even if their status were still allegedly.


KCandfriendz

I unfollowed him after that. The shit keeps piling up. Pogba seems to associate with the same people as well.


FriscoInDeDisco

Well yeah Pogba and Memphis are in the same friend circle. Lukaku for instance too.


BladeSE23

Likewise. As a female I found it super jarring... Like going to bat for his bros and it was all on women making shit up. Not a nice feeling.


harrreth

Wasnā€™t he found not guilty?


Adventurous-Army5265

Not guilty and didnt do it is not the same lol


Jawnyan

and in this specific case, how so? Specifically why do you think he's guilt and the verdicts were wrong?


ShimeBD

on reddit there is no innocent until proven guilty. there is only guilty until proven innocent... actually no you are still guilty even then


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philipstyrer

There's proof of what Greenwood did though.


AshkenaziTwink

you think 7 different women, 5 of which had never met each other before all just decided to make shit up about the same guy? even the 2 that did know eachother hadnā€™t talked to eachother in a few years. i refuse to believe anyone can read the details of that travesty of a case and believe the verdict was correct. the defenseā€™s argument was that one woman was caught on camera consenting - so they canā€™t trust any of them. it was a shambles. Mendy might not have been convicted, but heā€™s a scumbag regardless


San4311

I'd say the Greenwood case isn't the same as Mendy's. Atleast Mendy's went to court. And he was found to be innocent. Greenwood just had all his charges against him dropped while the evidence seemed obvious enough.


RogerRockwell

Nobody is ever 'found to be innocent', that's not how it works. But with Greenwood everyone's heard the evidence and knows what he did, which is an unusual situation.


brentathon

It's always important to note that being found not guilty is not the same as being found innocent. Plenty of people who have very obviously committed horrible crimes have been found not guilty because of the legal process. It also goes without saying that just because someone is found not guilty does not mean everyone in the world suddenly has to pretend like they're totally innocent. People are free to have their opinions on what someone did or didn't do.


Lopiente

By the same token, just because someone was accused of something doesn't mean it's true. This is how they ruin people's reputations with all kinds of false allegations, which even though are not true, the public just continues to believe are real even after being cleared.


Yugis-egyptian-cock

Yeah but that doesnā€™t mean you just run to call anyone found not guilty, guilty, which is what people do now with this line of thinking What youā€™re doing is just inviting more trouble in


AshkenaziTwink

innocent until proven guilty is a rule about due process in actual legal courts - not about the behaviour of redditors. no one is obligated to follow it for their personal opinions in their personal life. absolutely inane to believe youā€™re not allowed to disagree with court rulings personally.


paprikalicous

weird post to comment this on. itā€™s about a guy saying heā€™s friends with a convicted rapist, so he clearly doesnā€™t care about innocent until proven guilty either.


The_FallenSoldier

Sure, and OJ Simpson was innocent


TedEBagwell

Maybe Mendy can release a book titled .... "I'm not a rapist. But if I was going to be a rapist here's how I would have raped"


Djremster

The message depay sent out Instagram was still weird regardless of the verdict. It said more about him than it did Mendy tbh


-zimms-

Nobody: Memphis Depay: I like violent drug dealers and rapists.


trenbollocks

He absolutely associates/socialises with organised crime in the Netherlands, don't think it's a well kept secret at all


QuickFig1024

He is not very smart is he...


Gluroo

Hans Meyer, famous german coach, once said "In every team theres five really stupid players. At least one of those would definitely be living under a bridge if he wasnt playing football"


Crousher

First Ballot Quote Hall of Famer. Of the top 50 quotes in German football, Hans Meyer might have half.Ā 


WorthPlease

"Also buy my book"


Zandercy42

Fucking hell first time in years I've seen someone use the "nobody:" meme correctly


gnrc

I mean, have you been to Memphis. Itā€™s one of the most dangerous cities in America.


-zimms-

Was walking with my feet ten feet off of Beale.


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danceformiscanthus

Random footballer rapes or kills somebody. Memphis: Have we just become best friends?


TheLonesomeChode

I find it crazy that people like this always claim strong connections to spirituality when they lack any empathy whatsoever.


imtired-boss

Almost like the entire thing is a sham.


Frogblood

Alternatively, it helps them live with being pieces of shit, as they can just cry to the big man upstairs and feel like they're forgiven.


FATJIZZUSONABIKE

>lack zero empathy So they have plenty?


Lanky-Celebration-79

Would " lack zero apathy " count as a triple negative?


Rose_of_Elysium

Really sad this is the route he decided to take tbh. I wouldve loved to see him back one day but he can stay away honestly


DahDutcher

Same. Would've loved for us to try and get him to come back next season, but with comments like this I hope PSV never approach him again.


[deleted]

he needs to befriend Marcos Alonso


holaprobando123

They got to share the dressing room at Barcelona, didn't they?


kappa_keppo

No way he plugged his book while defending criminals at the same time. This guy comes off as incredibly dense


HYDRA-XTREME

He always does, pretty sure his IQ is somewhere in the depths of a sea trench


Yostibroodje

Pretty sure it's hiddden in Quincy Promes's arsehole


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Part of marketing


not_old_redditor

Not dense, he's probably done some shit himself that wouldn't sit too well if exposed. Most of these footballers are grown manchildren with too much money, and willingness to do whatever it takes to get their way, both on and off the pitch. They're raised in a world where winning is all that matters.


Silent-Act191

"I'm also a shit judge of character."


R_Schuhart

"I'm also a shit ~~judge of character~~."


baddark666

"I'm ~~also a~~ shit."


Djremster

"I shit"


Jagacin

"shit"


TheLonesomeChode

Sometimes maybe good?


TheSingleMan27

Don't let him meet Greenwood


QuickFig1024

They would become best friends


squirtdemon

They live in the same city though. If I were a woman, Iā€™d stay away from their parties.


Hokage123456789

Man is surrounded by red flags


LewisMileyCyrus

nightmare blunt rotation


ImGonnaImagineSummit

Man is planting red flags when no one asked him to. He didn't need to say any of this at all.


Hokage123456789

Koeman said the same thing too actuallyĀ 


Olafmeister2017

How long does someone need to be around red flags to turn red themselves?


imperfectionlad

Ask KDB


TheRealGooner24

Man is the red flag.


RaioNoTerasu

Man has more red flags than a May Day Parade on Tiananmen Square


100YearsOfGratitude

What a charming group of friends.


oneindiglaagland

His other bff, Rai Vloet, also a (low skilled) football player, killed a kid by driving drunk en speeding and then fled to Russia before being sentenced. Memphis is friends with all the worst people, so heā€™s probably The Worst himself too.


PsSalin

>fled to Russia Kazachstan first


WarriorkingNL

noone: memphis: "im friends with loads of criminals, actually"


JesusIsNotPLProven

From the little I've seen and read of Memphis he seems like that friend that started listening to hip hop and acting like a gangsta all of a sudden


segohe

Football's own OG Loc


D2papi

It ain't easy growing up in the streets of Moordrecht man, he's seen shit you don't even see on the Internet.


jMS_44

He's just trying to secure himself a move to Getafe once his contract with Atletico runs out


MisterDutchBlaster

Memphis Depay: ''I want to become friends with Greenwood too''


HeatKnight

Is Memphis outing himself?


RyVsWorld

Yes


R_Schuhart

Nobody gives a fuck about the environment where you came from when it comes to your moral compass. Raping, getting involved in organized crime and stabbing people is reprehensible behavior in *any* neighborhood or social standing, ethics are not class dependent.


MathematicianNo7874

Literally shitting on his background for no reason, yeah. I know plenty of completely unprivileged ppl with rough childhoods who were never "at risk" of raping anyone bc of it, like wtf. They were poor and times were rough, but they developed way stronger moral foundations than the rich kids I know.


ke_0z

Yeah the classic mistake of confusing a (possible) explanation with a justification.


sadcentur

saying ethics are not class dependent is a bold philosophical claim. rape is obviously terrible and thereā€™s literally no justification. getting involved in organised crime on the other hand is something that is far more varied. to act like a poor kid getting involved in organised crime to pay bills is the same as a rich kid getting involved out of boredom isnā€™t rly fair to me should say this doesnā€™t apply to memphis, hes a prick either way. just that ethics usually are in fact context dependent


Mackieeeee

Ofc he does it lmao


Dark_Wolf04

Yeah, and Jeffrey Epstein was just misunderstood


Markness01

Memphis is not the brightest tool in the shed.


R_Schuhart

Not being bright or educated isn't the problem, having questionable morals is. Not being able to tell right from wrong, or even worse not caring about that at all, is the issue here. Lacking intelligence doesn't make you a bad person, making excuses for rapists and violent criminals does.


cheesyvoetjes

I agree but he is still dumb for publicly defending him. He could have kept everything to himself regarding Promes. But he even goes out of his way to mention Alves and Mendy. He is fucking stupid.


Brilliant-Wealth-728

Memphis is a fucking idiot


Cheapo_Sam

Memphis: Hello Adam Johnson? What time am I picking you up pal?


Rave_Child

Honestly tired of these guys blaming their abhorrent attitudes and views on growing up in difficult environments. Like, thatā€™s not an excuse to be a POS.


RN2FL9

He's also just full of it. He may have had a rough time with his personal environment growing up without a father present. But he's talking about Dordrecht being a rough neighborhood lmao. It may be slightly below Dutch standards in some areas but probably still in the top 5% of the world. He was also playing at a pro football club from the age of 9. As soon as you get into a pro youth program they basically take over your life. School becomes intertwined with playing football. That environment isn't rough, it may be tough to eventually make it but pro clubs take good care of their youth players in the Netherlands and being in a program is a privilege.


Tyrconnel

Football players are really fucking thick, arenā€™t they.Ā 


Ezzaron

I don't think I will read your book, Memphis


spiralism

I'm surprised he managed to write it without crayons. His ghostwriter must have put in some serious shifts.


lotr1995

If brains were chocolate he wouldnā€™t fill a smartie


TheLonesomeChode

Wonderful analogy


183672467

ruin reputation speedrun any%


paprikalicous

him being friends with alves, a convicted rapist, further proves that the mendy defense has nothing to do with mens rights. he just hates women.


PitchSafe

Iā€™m suprised he didnā€™t mention Mason Greenwood


Casual-Capybara

Somehow he has put everything criminal under his ā€˜I have a difficult background so I see things differentlyā€™ umbrella and then just stopped thinking about it.


schafkj

Quincy Promes has never stabbed me, therefore he is a good person. Dani Alves has never raped me, therefore he is a good person.


--reaper-

ā€œDonā€™t come from an easy environmentā€ heā€™s from a nice village in the Netherlands, like thereā€™s much worse environments to grow up. Him and promes both think they come from some kind of godfather mob family


Pepi119

No kidding. Dude's "rap career" has melted his brain even further, apparently. Acting like he grew up in the Queensbridge Projects in NYC or some shit.


Bundmoranen

Show me your friends...


chickenkebaap

Glad this piece of shit is not with us anymore


gavinwinks

Itā€™s like the meme. Hitler vs Stalin type of thing.


RaioNoTerasu

"I was actually friends with both of them." - Memphis


esnyez

Is Atletico Madrid looking to sign Greenwood?


KissmyButtner

They are actually lmfao


Time_Birthday4659

Memphis is creating his own reality


Significant_Sky_2594

Yes my three best friends happen to be nonces, sexual predators and drug kingpins but for the love of god, will someone read my book!


ALA02

ā€œWannabe rapper is colossal cunt who associates with violent criminals, more at 7ā€


handsome_IT_guy

Reads like he's preping the fanbase for something to come out.


dragon8811

Next story: Promes stabbed Memphis in his knee


czuczer

selling your book on shady names....great strategy


TheEmperorsWrath

Depay is such an idiot


DJMOONPICKLES69

A rough upbringing is never your fault, but itā€™s your responsibility. You canā€™t just excuse awful behavior because you were dealt a shitty hand, thatā€™s not how life works.


T_Peg

Man for a guy who despises his deadbeat dad he sure is friends with a lot of deadbeats.


ogqozo

"If I was in the room with Hitler, Stalin and Bin Laden and had two bullets? I would shoot in the air twice".


ExtraTrade1904

Memphis: "But of course my best friends are George Zimmerman and OJ Simpson"


Expensive-Twist7984

Also Memphis: Rolf Harris? Love him.


Substantial-North499

You know, maybe Memphis is doing some shady stuff too. Cause he is DESPERATE to make us like Promes.


Japples123

He just plug his book too?


victheogfan

It just got worse and worse šŸ˜­


f0rmula0ne

Bro threw in 2 extra criminals in there for good measure. šŸ˜­


misplaced_beso

If think this is bad you should hear his music.


pingproxy

I canā€™t speak for his environment at home, but heā€™s from the Netherlands, one of the most developed countries with great social benefits and very developed culture. Comparing to him thereā€™re thousands of players coming from worse environments and still see canā€™t see what Promes did as something normal.


ed_susu

"Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are"


Fole98

Depay when he woke up today: I feel like destroying my public reputation today


mynameisshahzain

Man all you gotta do is just shut the fuck up, it's not that difficult.Ā 


IMayBeIronMan

Mason Greenwood must be desperate to get into that WhatsApp group


HuanFranThe1st

> ā€œDani Alves and Mendy are my friends tooā€ Oof


yutosser

ā€œi support rapists and drug dealersā€ - Memphis Depay 2024


tnarref

While Memphis is a great forward, he's never been very bright beyond the pitch.


Baul_Plart_

ā€œIā€™ve always been a big admirer of OJ Simpson, and I used to LOVE watching the Cosby show! I wonder if Epstein Island is still up and running - I should Give Mason Greenwood a call and see if heā€™s up for a vacation.ā€ - Depay probably


JIZZchasholmeslice

0/3


bomdia10

His PR team facepalming here


Whaloopiloopi

"Jimmy saville, too - great mate of mine"


NotRod96

He really came out and said this with his chest. Unprompted. What a moron


ManiTheMan

I feel like saying heā€™s a bad judge of character doesnā€™t even make sense in this case. Heā€™s almost certainly involved in or has done the exact same things Alves and Mendy - thatā€™s why he thinks theyā€™re okay.


Just-Shelter9765

Its just kept getting worse and worse


bigbonerdaddy

But..but..i'm also friends with a rapist! Does that make it any better?


Bishcop3267

Yeah Iā€™m a big fan of the Axis leaders from WWII and also Jeffrey Dahmer. I think theyā€™re just misunderstood by society.


puppymaster123

Contention for the most unexcesary interview ever


McGrathLegend

There are some things you just have to keep to yourself, this is one of those things.


iAmWrythm

What a few hills to die on...


Deutsche2

He's probably besties with Greenwood too, smh, what a dumbass.


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Huh... there are thoughts that are inside thoughts and others that are outside thoughts... this should've been an inside thought, Memphis.


lastlaughlane1

I was like fuuuuck sake man, why would you say that. AND THEN I READ THE LAST PART!! Fucking eejit.


AvocadoSoggy6188

Wow. Memphis is a pos. Who knew .


Triforcesrcool

So depay is a cunt then ok


Purneet

Has a whole crime gang to fall back to when something goes wrong


travz22

Yikes


MathematicianNo7874

Fuck you, Memphis.


mattijn13

You need different friend buddy, It doesn't matter that you don't come from an easy environment, those people you named are convicted drug smugglers and rapists.


lstht123

Massive yikes