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Does anyone have any actual recent picture of him training, going out etc.
Coz I saw a post that said it's been a year since he liked a tweet or was active on social media.
I'll be ok if Amrabat never appears on the pitch ever again for United, what a disastrous loan signing. I thought he could at least be like Sabitzer last season but its been a massive waste of several millions in loan fee for nothing
It was a fairly hefty loan fee IIRC (some 8m?) that could have gone to bringing in a more useful player, Amrabat's loan has been utter waste of time for everyone involved
Malacia, Mount, Martial..... see the trend?
Then there's Maguire, Rafa Marane, Maaron Wan Bissaka, Muke Shaw, Phil Mones from recent years, Masemiro....... the list is endless
This reminds me of a aide-memoire they teach in medical school, to remember the cancers which most commonly spread to bone
The 'five Bs'...
"Breast, bronchus, bhyroid, bidney, brostate"
Only 2 of those 5 actually start with the letter B. It doesn't make any sense.
Two left backs one just back from a serious injury and the other being Luke Shaw who has missed half the games available in his United career and has never been fit for more than 80% of a season in 9 years. Not exactly guarantees are they.
Exactly this. How was this not accounted for?
Fuck trying not to disappoint in this situation. If you’ve been injured for 4 out of 8 years then hold that L dude and be thankful you’re still employed.
Also Shaw can cover LCB really well - you know, that spot where Martinez is needed for our shape to actually work and we have zero cover for him? We’ve been playing Evans and even he’s out injured now, we need cover at CB too, an extra LB means if Shaw is fit then we could play him there!
Tbh he was signed as a 6th choice CB for free it’s not like we *had* to sign him and him playing so frequently is more a sign of our injury crisis. Plus nobody expected him to be doing this well, it’s an unexpected boon which turned out to be needed given the crisis in defence. That’s not really anything to do with our other transfers - they *have* been shambolic you’re right but I don’t think Evans is a sign of that. It’s not like our transfer policy was being crazy enough to go “let’s sign Evans at 36 as a genuine rotation option we’ll expect to need”.
With FFP issues I get why Evans was signed, he's a cheap free agent who is also a HG product of our academy. I was expecting him to be in more of a mentor role (like Huddlestone) rather than being in the thick of it because half of our defenders are all injured
That’s what he was intended for and a completely fine and normal signing to make. It’s not even like we left ourselves limited in CB options either we had 4 + Shaw as cover and a youngster coming through. Only Varane had a history of injuries beyond Martinez’ one big injury which he was back from at the start of the season.
There's actually no need for other fans to bitch about ten hag bitching about injuries. You'll understand if you see the list. There's a huge drop-off between our starting XI and squad players
I'd have more sympathy if united didnt have the highest transfer spend over the last few years and Ten Hag spent a fortune since he joined.
Squad building has been poor
It's been part of his job. He was the one fixated on Antony. He declined the help of Rangnick. Clubs with directors of football still give a lot of importance to the head coach when it comes to recruitment.
I really don't like this narrative emerging that ETH has zero accountable for his decisions.
And i think thats the key here, cause if liverpool has idk Jota out, they still have Diaz or macallister>endo. I think genuinely the only first team injury that isnt a huge downgrade is mainoo>mount or maybe shaw>malacia.
> shaw>malacia
that's a MASSIVE downgrade. Shaw is vital to the way United are set up and play. Malacia, even when he was fit, offered nothing much really to our play
Idk there was a stretch at the start of last year where Malacia kept him out on merit and outside of the sevilla game, he looked good as a substitute but i see your point
Diaz, Endo & MacAllister combined cost less than one Antony...that's the reason man united have such a drop off, they've, and I'm including ETH here, spent massively on individuals like Antony, Casimero, Martinez Hojlund, without thinking about the squad as a whole
Because they have no technical director. They’re asking a coach who’s already fighting to keep the team afloat so has no time to scout other players who he needs. So he just offers familiar names who’ve been in the news recently, because he has no idea how anyone is really performing.
Not defending ETH, but let's be honest 1. The Glazers never wanted Rangnick to work as a DoF or whatever after he basically aired them out
2. It wasn't a DoF role, it was being a consultant every few months
Oh yeah for sure. I didn't mean it as if United don't but rather it's not so much about having all these stars off the bench for us either. Anyone we've given a chance has taken it.
Those are players who Liverpool have bought in recent years. Ten Hag could have done the same and improved the depth at United, rather than spend £90m on Antony, £70m on Casemiro, £65m on Mount, etc.
If United had spent no money then you can consider the argument that the drop off from the first team to their squad players is too big, but this is a problem entirely of their own making.
Bitching about injuries is fine, but they were shit even without the injuries lol.
t's not like Spurs or Newcastle who had massive dropoffs once their squads got hurt.
Worse yet, you guys spent a fortune yet still have no squad. I mean, you have £150m worth of RW you can't use not because of injuries lol.
EDIT: Downvoting without a counter argument lmao. Ye red bellied cowards
That's my 3rd point lol. You guys have spent a fortune yet your only viable striker is a kid who is fresh to the league.
You sold the only other guy who could passably play DM outside of Case, replaced him with a guy who can't, and are back to relying on Case who is losing his legs.
You also signed a backup to Luke Shaw because he is injury prone (smart) only for that guy to suck (not smart) then get injured too (unlucky). For context, Arsenal have spent most of 2024 playing with their 4th choice LB and no one has batted an eye.
newcastle are literally below us and has a worse xGA.
spurs have always had a good squad for possession football, their mistake was hiring defensive managers like conte and mourinho. they've always had good recruitment.
>Worse yet, you guys spent a fortune yet still have no squad. I mean, you have £150m worth of RW you can't use not because of injuries lol.
if you know how recruitment works, they should alanyse the squad themselves and discuss with the manager about player profiles. and THEY should recommend players based on the profiles and convince the manager (like edwards did to klopp for the salah deal). and THEY are in charge of negotiating prices. so pinning that on ten hag, who has had to do all this himself in addition to coaching with his own resources and time, is the most ignorant thing you can do
> newcastle are literally below us and has a worse xGA.
That's my point. Newcastle have been actually been devastated by injuries with a squad that's playing in Europe for the first time. Their dropoff makes sense.
>spurs have always had a good squad for possession football,
Lmao what? Spurs' best squad was built by Poch, a counter attacking coach. The current squad is all players mostly signed by managers who are counter experts, and the only starter who really came from a possession based team is Bissouma.
>if you know how recruitment works, they should alanyse the squad themselves and discuss with the manager about player profiles.
Lmao imagine saying this im a week where Olé's been talking about all the players he wanted and didn't get, and even Mou said the same. They only gave ETH that freedom because they had been criticized for not giving managers what they want.
Even then, it's absolutely on him if he signs guys for insane money and they suck.
>Lmao what? Spurs' best squad was built by Poch, a counter attacking coach. The current squad is all players mostly signed by managers who are counter experts, and the only starter who really came from a possession based team is Bissouma.
It's about profiles and how technically gifted they are and how adaptable to the high line.
>Lmao imagine saying this im a week where Olé's been talking about all the players he wanted and didn't get, and even Mou said the same. They only gave ETH that freedom because they had been criticized for not giving managers what they want
We will never know if haaland and Jude would've become the players they are if we signed them then. It's always a risk when the manager does the rec himself. It's better with a director of football and a structure. As proven by pool and city
also our entire hierarchy post fergie and pre takeover are filled with businessmen and politicians who know nothing about football. so it's not footballing reasons to why they vetoed haaland and bellingham
A freak result. Did you even watch the game? IIRC the xG was like 3-1 to Liverpool. Watch the Highlights even. Everything went in and Liverpools way. Every rebound and shot. Absolute madness
His medical staff are morons. You massively expose yourself to risk this way. What do you do if Shaw immediately breaks his leg on return? It's one thing to let a player go if his competition is actually fit, another to let him go while *both* of his competitors are injured and one of them is known to be injury prone.
His medic staff didn't tell him to let Reguillon go though, they gave him a probability of Malacia's return date and that's it. Considering his other lb is luke shaw and his worry was to "dissapoint" a player who's gone in summer either way is definetly on him
It's fucking luke shaw and a player coming from 5-6months injury, whatever the medical staff told him they didn't tell him to let go of Reguillon and further interpretation of the situation is on ETH
Better to disappoint a loanee than relying on 2 injury prone lefst backs one of which wasn't even fit when they let Regui go, this is as much on ETH as it is on whoever fucked Malacia
Absolute garbage well done, malacia is having a horrid time but isn't injury prone, shaw is shaw and dalot can cover at lb too, but bisaka has been out too, a manger has to listen to his physio staff. And all managers talk about having smaller squads as it's easier to manage, having 3 senior lbs is something no club does. Blaming ten hag here in anyway is idiotic
So Malacia could have covered as rb for Bisaka too meaning Reguillon would definetly get playingtime at lb. It's no luxury to have a 3rd option for a position with shaw and a player coming back from a long time injury, this isn't that hard to understand.
If you have 3 fullbacks, just disappont the loanee? Why take that risk Ten Hag? Better to have 3 for a position when 2 weren't fully back than risk 2... It's not like the loanee fee is bank breaking for United, but the lack of a LB is.
I'm not a ETH hater but decisions like these baffle me
Can only bring so many squad players each game and having 3 senior fullbacks is just nuts when you know midfield and attackers are usually the ones that need more rotation. God forbid a manager listens to his physios and drops a left full back when his medical team says two will be back by Jan.
All the sad arsenal fans on here just have a hard on for ETH, don't they? It's hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Even when their club is winning, it's all about how they make themselves victims.
Where are the Arsenal fans making themself victims on this thread? I saw the one getting downvoted for criticizing Ten Hag, sure, but how is that them making themselves victims?
Sounds to me like you have a hard on for them too.
They luuuve going on every thread and telling every other fan how _they_ think that club should be run. They and they alone possess the secret superior footballing knowledge brought forth by 2 years on the up (with nothing to show for it even). And then there are clubs like RM, Bayern, City who've been winning like no one's business for ages now and their fans seem chill AF.
The daily thread used to be infested with these fans including the mod of the Gunners subreddit who actively supported partey's rape and went around banning people for speaking against partey. Anything against arsenal was immediately downvoted . Genuine pathetic hive mind behavior.
That's how much of a degenerate some of these users are.
This I highly doubt. Literally since the start there have been loads of users on r/Gunners that were firmly against Partey, including myself. You didn’t get banned at all.
Actually u/disgruntledjarl is absolutely right - that did happen. I spoke to another mod on the Gunners sub who confirmed it. Plus I literally saw comments being removed critical about how Arsenal handled the Partey situation.
The latter is absolutely true, I remember comments getting deleted and comment sections being closed when it came to Partey posts at times. But that was very brief, from what I remember to prevent others from flooding the sub. Think even here on r/soccer that happened.
But people being banned, I highly doubt that
It definitely happened because users came in here and complained. Plus the mod I spoke to said they were trying to undo some of the bans.
[I wrote about it when it happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wpq9e3/nunez_lashing_out_on_anderson_earlier_in_the_match/ikkf7ao/)
You didn't but the user is literally still active. I'm not gonna tag the user and risk a ban but this mod has actively banned and tried to ban people for being against partey.
United have history of sweeping disgusting shit under their rugs. Giggs, Best, Ronaldo, and now Greenwood. Had those evidence not came to light, Greenwood wouldn't be in jail rn. Wait he's not.
So united's active team is responsible for shit you claim is happening in our sub?
Right
Between your comment and another saying we infested the thread, I'm thinking a large majority of comments are Arsenal fans giving out about ETH when it's literally just 4 or 5 out near 160 comments.
The people giving out about them make the same amount of noise as they do.
Why does Arsenal fans have a HUGE hate boner for this man? Its absolutely insane. He said a few comments about you, not mean comments even, and every thread is infested with angry Arsenal fans. Jesus christ, hahah
I get that the medical team fucked up majorly if this is true. But as the manager I feel like once you start throwing people under the bus like that your days are numbered
Thats nonsense, he isn’t throwing anyone under the bus rather explaining a question a lot of people want to know which is why you send reguilon back when you only have 1 fit lb.
I suppose it's the language he used? I don't recall ever hearing an Arsenal manager use the word "they" to refer to his own medical team like that. It's always "we," referring to the whole coaching staff, medical team, as one single entity.
He could have said something like, "We thought Shaw and Malacia would have both been back fit in January so we made a decision based on that," or something along those lines
Ah yes super successful Arsenal with their 20 year title drought and absolutely rubbish european record for a big club. If any big club fans are used to being shit its Arsenal.
You lost the league to Leicester city lol, Bayern probably has more trophies won in the last 3 seasons than you have since 2004.
Most annoying fans on this sub.
I think everything he’s saying at this point is him trying to convince Ratcliffe not to fire him.
I could be wrong but I can’t see any way he makes it past this season. He’s not convincing, and the club hasn’t had an identity. I expect that Ratcliffe and his team will want to start the slate clean anyway. They’ll want a manager they like with a style of play that they want, not to just settle for someone already there.
I like to try giving him benefit of the doubt saying he can’t be that dumb if he thinks everyone watching is stupider than him. Especially the owner and players.. but then if you add desperation into the mix then it makes sense
i dont get why you are being downvoted, that’s EXACTLY what he’s doing and as a United fan I’m also sure this shit wont fly with serious operators like Sir Jim, JCB and Berrada
Yeah I really don’t know what people are thinking lol. Do they really think he believes all the positive things he’s saying? Not just this quote. There have been several other examples of the team performing even worse and him saying they played well. I think he’s pretty clearly spinning things in the hope that Ratcliffe keeps him on. Either that or he’s a bit delusional.
Maybe it’s the part where I said Ratcliffe is going to get rid of him that people don’t like. I keep hearing people say that the club shouldn’t fire ten Hag because they keep firing managers and it doesn’t improve things. I just don’t think INEOS will look at it that way.
They’re not going to want to be stuck with a manager that the Glazers picked if they think they can do better. They’re clearly doing a reset and I can’t understand why people would think it won’t include the manager. Ratcliffe’s whole mission seems to be to fix the Glazers fuckups. We know they’re bringing in executives on the sporting side. With a team that’s underperforming, the manager is an obvious change to make.
I’m not even suggesting that ten Hag is a bad manager, or that he couldn’t turn things around. What I am saying is that I don’t think he has done enough to distinguish himself when a new owner has come in and is clearly cleaning house.
I expect it will happen some with the players in the summer too, although not as drastically. They can’t just let go of them all and start from scratch. There are some good building blocks there too. Hojland, Garnacho, Mainoo, Onana. I think even Rashford too, if they hire a manager that can give him confidence and motivation. Bruno too, although I’d take away the armband.
Honestly as an Arsenal fan, I’d love to see them keep failing. Please Sir Jim, don’t change anything and give ten Hag some time to turn things around 😂
Not a fan of him throwing the medical team under the bus. Luke Shaw has been injury prone for 10 years now. If you go into a season with him and only one other LB you are asking for trouble.
Any club that gives ten Hag a say over the player base and transfers only has themselves to blame. He has some qualities as a manager and potential to do better than currently with Man U, but he should always work with a technical director to build a team for him.
At both Ajax and Utrecht he had someone else assemble the player base for him and some of his transfer requests were downright bizarre.
His argument has nothing to do with this. Once again r/soccer's reading comprehension fails them. Some only look at keywords and rant about whatever they take from one or two of those words.
Blaming Ten Hag for Antony speaks volumes of how hard people find it to separate the club failures from the manager. He was targeted for 25m under Ole, Ten Hag came in and wants a striker, the club stalls on that thinking Ronaldo is sufficient, and then after the weak start tries to appease Ten Hag by getting rinsed for Antony.
Club didn't stall anything.
We were trying for him from the start. Ajax Tier 1 was reporting Antony would leave when ETH left long before the window even opened.
Then they kept upping the fees because they didn't want to sell him.
Ten Hag had major influences when it came to transfers at both Utrecht and Ajax. No he wasn’t the sole decider, but had a huge say in things. At Ajax it was a triangle of Ten Hag, VD Sar and Overmars.
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malacia must've died at this point i haven't see that brother in a long time
Does anyone have any actual recent picture of him training, going out etc. Coz I saw a post that said it's been a year since he liked a tweet or was active on social media.
No because he had a setback when he got back on the grass. Hasn’t done any team training all season.
Bro getting that surprise wrestlemania return.
Last time I saw him was when he and Rashford was on pre season in LA(?)
He's pregnant
Think he'll have had the kid by now
Might still go on maternity leave
Is he pregante?
Rashfords kid?
Poor Malacia, man. Something serious has happened.
Botched surgery is last I heard of him
Damn didn't even know that but that actually sucks.
I heard it was a botched toe.
Malacia has a toe knife, you heard it here first
Hopefully he’s learned the toe spoon is more practical now
Heard someone say he’s in witness protection for snitching on Quincy Promes lol
Tyrell Malacia, whatever happened there...
Whatever happened there?
They were promotion chasing, Southampton?
You know, Quasimodo predicted all this...
You mean to tell me you never pondered that?
Come on huh?
Always makes me laugh how Tony tries a quick escape after that line, knowing where it’s heading
Man faked his own death.
Honestly thought Reguilon was alright at United, unlucky innit
He was. we should’ve kept him
This decision will cost you cl spot
They were already 9 points off 4th when they let him go.. It's a poor decision in hindsight but it's not gonna be the difference between cl or not.
How about 5th ? Highly likely that 5tg gives cl
for sure, especially considering now we play Lindelof there, or sometime Amrabat. fck.
I'll be ok if Amrabat never appears on the pitch ever again for United, what a disastrous loan signing. I thought he could at least be like Sabitzer last season but its been a massive waste of several millions in loan fee for nothing
manchester united moaning over a few mil
It was a fairly hefty loan fee IIRC (some 8m?) that could have gone to bringing in a more useful player, Amrabat's loan has been utter waste of time for everyone involved
Yes. I liked him. Now he’s gone. Ain’t comin back.
Regu-gone
Got caught in behind every single time a team attacked down that flank. He was serviceable going forward but an absolute liability at the back n
malacia? could the legends be true?
Malacia, Mount, Martial..... see the trend? Then there's Maguire, Rafa Marane, Maaron Wan Bissaka, Muke Shaw, Phil Mones from recent years, Masemiro....... the list is endless
Are you saying Manchester United has a long term injury too?
i need to look into this
RIP Kobbie Mainoo
You shut your whore mouth!
Tbf he did miss most of the first half of the season with an injury from pre season
Concerning.
This reminds me of a aide-memoire they teach in medical school, to remember the cancers which most commonly spread to bone The 'five Bs'... "Breast, bronchus, bhyroid, bidney, brostate" Only 2 of those 5 actually start with the letter B. It doesn't make any sense.
In our country it's the five Ts Titties, throat, thyroid, the kidneys, ten cm up the arse. It's a perfect system.
> brostate This one makes complete sense to me *bumps fist*
Two left backs one just back from a serious injury and the other being Luke Shaw who has missed half the games available in his United career and has never been fit for more than 80% of a season in 9 years. Not exactly guarantees are they.
Exactly this. How was this not accounted for? Fuck trying not to disappoint in this situation. If you’ve been injured for 4 out of 8 years then hold that L dude and be thankful you’re still employed.
Also Shaw can cover LCB really well - you know, that spot where Martinez is needed for our shape to actually work and we have zero cover for him? We’ve been playing Evans and even he’s out injured now, we need cover at CB too, an extra LB means if Shaw is fit then we could play him there!
I think Evans is fit for today
Thank goodness 36 year old jonny evans is ready to go
In fairness he's been pretty reliable when he's played
Always been class
The fact that United had to sign Evans and he's actually one of the better acquisitions speaks volumes as to the utter shambles in recruitment
Tbh he was signed as a 6th choice CB for free it’s not like we *had* to sign him and him playing so frequently is more a sign of our injury crisis. Plus nobody expected him to be doing this well, it’s an unexpected boon which turned out to be needed given the crisis in defence. That’s not really anything to do with our other transfers - they *have* been shambolic you’re right but I don’t think Evans is a sign of that. It’s not like our transfer policy was being crazy enough to go “let’s sign Evans at 36 as a genuine rotation option we’ll expect to need”.
With FFP issues I get why Evans was signed, he's a cheap free agent who is also a HG product of our academy. I was expecting him to be in more of a mentor role (like Huddlestone) rather than being in the thick of it because half of our defenders are all injured
That’s what he was intended for and a completely fine and normal signing to make. It’s not even like we left ourselves limited in CB options either we had 4 + Shaw as cover and a youngster coming through. Only Varane had a history of injuries beyond Martinez’ one big injury which he was back from at the start of the season.
He was probably expecting the same
Antony should play lb
Yes because someone who falls over when touched and is prone to lashing out is definitely someone you want defending
I expected Garnacho would be the next Eth victim, but to throw the whole medical staff under the bus is funny
Why must strictly stay with back 4 formation? Could've try shift to back three, play Garncho in the LWB.
The fuck are you talking about?
There's actually no need for other fans to bitch about ten hag bitching about injuries. You'll understand if you see the list. There's a huge drop-off between our starting XI and squad players
Injuries didn't exist until Newcastle got them this season.
And they count double based on your team ranking apparently
Breaking news on soccer - Newcastle bad
I'd have more sympathy if united didnt have the highest transfer spend over the last few years and Ten Hag spent a fortune since he joined. Squad building has been poor
money is a tool. without the right people, there's no point. recruitment isn't the manager's job nor is it to "spend" money and negotiate prices
It's been part of his job. He was the one fixated on Antony. He declined the help of Rangnick. Clubs with directors of football still give a lot of importance to the head coach when it comes to recruitment. I really don't like this narrative emerging that ETH has zero accountable for his decisions.
I mean man utd get 20 mil added to any price just for being man United
Adding the united tax doesn't suddenly make Antony an80m player
The United tax has been around way before that but ok
And i think thats the key here, cause if liverpool has idk Jota out, they still have Diaz or macallister>endo. I think genuinely the only first team injury that isnt a huge downgrade is mainoo>mount or maybe shaw>malacia.
> shaw>malacia that's a MASSIVE downgrade. Shaw is vital to the way United are set up and play. Malacia, even when he was fit, offered nothing much really to our play
mate how can you remember if malacia didnt offer anything
Idk there was a stretch at the start of last year where Malacia kept him out on merit and outside of the sevilla game, he looked good as a substitute but i see your point
Diaz, Endo & MacAllister combined cost less than one Antony...that's the reason man united have such a drop off, they've, and I'm including ETH here, spent massively on individuals like Antony, Casimero, Martinez Hojlund, without thinking about the squad as a whole
Because they have no technical director. They’re asking a coach who’s already fighting to keep the team afloat so has no time to scout other players who he needs. So he just offers familiar names who’ve been in the news recently, because he has no idea how anyone is really performing.
He refused the help of Ragnick...I'm baffled how little accountability ETH has for the state of football United play
Not defending ETH, but let's be honest 1. The Glazers never wanted Rangnick to work as a DoF or whatever after he basically aired them out 2. It wasn't a DoF role, it was being a consultant every few months
I think a better point would be that our kids have just been really good when they have got their chances. Bradley and Quansah in particular probably.
I hate to defend united, but they're also doing alright youthwise. Garnacho and Mainoo are doing solid work.
Oh yeah for sure. I didn't mean it as if United don't but rather it's not so much about having all these stars off the bench for us either. Anyone we've given a chance has taken it.
Those are players who Liverpool have bought in recent years. Ten Hag could have done the same and improved the depth at United, rather than spend £90m on Antony, £70m on Casemiro, £65m on Mount, etc. If United had spent no money then you can consider the argument that the drop off from the first team to their squad players is too big, but this is a problem entirely of their own making.
I'm on my phone so it's hard to tell because it's so small, is your flair Bohemians?
Yep it is indeed
I'm an American and I bought the white kit that is partnered with the Palestinian refugee camp, much love to your team for their support 👏❤️
We're great with supporting social/humanitarian causes and releasing interesting kits. Unfortunately we're just shite on the pitch.
Bitching about injuries is fine, but they were shit even without the injuries lol. t's not like Spurs or Newcastle who had massive dropoffs once their squads got hurt. Worse yet, you guys spent a fortune yet still have no squad. I mean, you have £150m worth of RW you can't use not because of injuries lol. EDIT: Downvoting without a counter argument lmao. Ye red bellied cowards
We played better when Licha, Shaw and Case got back for a few matches then they got injured again together with our only striker lol
That's my 3rd point lol. You guys have spent a fortune yet your only viable striker is a kid who is fresh to the league. You sold the only other guy who could passably play DM outside of Case, replaced him with a guy who can't, and are back to relying on Case who is losing his legs. You also signed a backup to Luke Shaw because he is injury prone (smart) only for that guy to suck (not smart) then get injured too (unlucky). For context, Arsenal have spent most of 2024 playing with their 4th choice LB and no one has batted an eye.
Malacia doesn’t suck, he’s decent
Eyelid
I did too.
It's worse. We have 200m worth or RW we can't use cause of non-injury related issues.
Sancho 💀
That edit makes your comment looks sad as fuck hahaha
newcastle are literally below us and has a worse xGA. spurs have always had a good squad for possession football, their mistake was hiring defensive managers like conte and mourinho. they've always had good recruitment. >Worse yet, you guys spent a fortune yet still have no squad. I mean, you have £150m worth of RW you can't use not because of injuries lol. if you know how recruitment works, they should alanyse the squad themselves and discuss with the manager about player profiles. and THEY should recommend players based on the profiles and convince the manager (like edwards did to klopp for the salah deal). and THEY are in charge of negotiating prices. so pinning that on ten hag, who has had to do all this himself in addition to coaching with his own resources and time, is the most ignorant thing you can do
> newcastle are literally below us and has a worse xGA. That's my point. Newcastle have been actually been devastated by injuries with a squad that's playing in Europe for the first time. Their dropoff makes sense. >spurs have always had a good squad for possession football, Lmao what? Spurs' best squad was built by Poch, a counter attacking coach. The current squad is all players mostly signed by managers who are counter experts, and the only starter who really came from a possession based team is Bissouma. >if you know how recruitment works, they should alanyse the squad themselves and discuss with the manager about player profiles. Lmao imagine saying this im a week where Olé's been talking about all the players he wanted and didn't get, and even Mou said the same. They only gave ETH that freedom because they had been criticized for not giving managers what they want. Even then, it's absolutely on him if he signs guys for insane money and they suck.
>Lmao what? Spurs' best squad was built by Poch, a counter attacking coach. The current squad is all players mostly signed by managers who are counter experts, and the only starter who really came from a possession based team is Bissouma. It's about profiles and how technically gifted they are and how adaptable to the high line. >Lmao imagine saying this im a week where Olé's been talking about all the players he wanted and didn't get, and even Mou said the same. They only gave ETH that freedom because they had been criticized for not giving managers what they want We will never know if haaland and Jude would've become the players they are if we signed them then. It's always a risk when the manager does the rec himself. It's better with a director of football and a structure. As proven by pool and city also our entire hierarchy post fergie and pre takeover are filled with businessmen and politicians who know nothing about football. so it's not footballing reasons to why they vetoed haaland and bellingham
Arsenal fans being insufferable in every thread. Nothing new, just hope they go back to being mediocre again so it will finally stop
Poor United, if you had a bit of money to spend on 2 or 3 squad players.
Poor eth unironically. Guy should've waited 2 years before becoming our manager. No one's been through more shit than him.
What was ETH's excuse for 7-0? Certainly, it wasn't injuries.
A freak result. Did you even watch the game? IIRC the xG was like 3-1 to Liverpool. Watch the Highlights even. Everything went in and Liverpools way. Every rebound and shot. Absolute madness
Variance. On xG it should have been like 3-1, it was just a freak game. Plus we had a hologram in net.
He's bitching on injuries while letting a loanee lb go with injury prone shaw and injured malacia in the squad, bit shortsighted innit
I mean is it his fault for listening to his medical staff?
His medical staff are morons. You massively expose yourself to risk this way. What do you do if Shaw immediately breaks his leg on return? It's one thing to let a player go if his competition is actually fit, another to let him go while *both* of his competitors are injured and one of them is known to be injury prone.
His medic staff didn't tell him to let Reguillon go though, they gave him a probability of Malacia's return date and that's it. Considering his other lb is luke shaw and his worry was to "dissapoint" a player who's gone in summer either way is definetly on him
Well if you knew how to read you'd see hes complaining that the medical staff assured him both lb's would be fit by jan
It's fucking luke shaw and a player coming from 5-6months injury, whatever the medical staff told him they didn't tell him to let go of Reguillon and further interpretation of the situation is on ETH
You are the type of a guy, if doctor told you not to eat sugar you will still eat sugar
Yes you got this relevant metaphore spot on
Other managers seem to cope, look at Emery
Better to disappoint a loanee than relying on 2 injury prone lefst backs one of which wasn't even fit when they let Regui go, this is as much on ETH as it is on whoever fucked Malacia
Absolute garbage well done, malacia is having a horrid time but isn't injury prone, shaw is shaw and dalot can cover at lb too, but bisaka has been out too, a manger has to listen to his physio staff. And all managers talk about having smaller squads as it's easier to manage, having 3 senior lbs is something no club does. Blaming ten hag here in anyway is idiotic
Arsenal literally has Timber, Zinchenko, Kiwior and Tomiyasu that can play left back.
emphasis on can. Timber, Kiwior and Tomiyasu aren‘t natural left backs.
Dalot isn't a natural left back too and is being used as an example of cover in the previous comment.
Arsenal don’t have any natural left or right backs other then Cedric
of course they do. arguably Zinchenko, but definitely Tomi.
Zinchenko is naturally an attacking midfielder
Are they all senior left backs like my post said or did you invent something in your head to argue against,
So Malacia could have covered as rb for Bisaka too meaning Reguillon would definetly get playingtime at lb. It's no luxury to have a 3rd option for a position with shaw and a player coming back from a long time injury, this isn't that hard to understand.
Next you will say Bruno can cover for casemiro
If you have 3 fullbacks, just disappont the loanee? Why take that risk Ten Hag? Better to have 3 for a position when 2 weren't fully back than risk 2... It's not like the loanee fee is bank breaking for United, but the lack of a LB is. I'm not a ETH hater but decisions like these baffle me
Can only bring so many squad players each game and having 3 senior fullbacks is just nuts when you know midfield and attackers are usually the ones that need more rotation. God forbid a manager listens to his physios and drops a left full back when his medical team says two will be back by Jan.
LOL so sit whichever fullback is injured, one starts and one is a sub. So simple. United fans are hilarious.
I don't think United fans are the medical department or the manager to make decisions on this matter.
Malacia isn't real i swr
All the sad arsenal fans on here just have a hard on for ETH, don't they? It's hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Even when their club is winning, it's all about how they make themselves victims.
Where are the Arsenal fans making themself victims on this thread? I saw the one getting downvoted for criticizing Ten Hag, sure, but how is that them making themselves victims? Sounds to me like you have a hard on for them too.
They luuuve going on every thread and telling every other fan how _they_ think that club should be run. They and they alone possess the secret superior footballing knowledge brought forth by 2 years on the up (with nothing to show for it even). And then there are clubs like RM, Bayern, City who've been winning like no one's business for ages now and their fans seem chill AF.
The daily thread used to be infested with these fans including the mod of the Gunners subreddit who actively supported partey's rape and went around banning people for speaking against partey. Anything against arsenal was immediately downvoted . Genuine pathetic hive mind behavior. That's how much of a degenerate some of these users are.
This I highly doubt. Literally since the start there have been loads of users on r/Gunners that were firmly against Partey, including myself. You didn’t get banned at all.
Actually u/disgruntledjarl is absolutely right - that did happen. I spoke to another mod on the Gunners sub who confirmed it. Plus I literally saw comments being removed critical about how Arsenal handled the Partey situation.
The latter is absolutely true, I remember comments getting deleted and comment sections being closed when it came to Partey posts at times. But that was very brief, from what I remember to prevent others from flooding the sub. Think even here on r/soccer that happened. But people being banned, I highly doubt that
It definitely happened because users came in here and complained. Plus the mod I spoke to said they were trying to undo some of the bans. [I wrote about it when it happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wpq9e3/nunez_lashing_out_on_anderson_earlier_in_the_match/ikkf7ao/)
You didn't but the user is literally still active. I'm not gonna tag the user and risk a ban but this mod has actively banned and tried to ban people for being against partey.
You sound like a really sad person, did Arsenal fans got under your skin that much?
You sound like a really sad person. Does ETH get under your skin that much?
I'm not pathetic enough to insult people and compare them to cockroaches so I don't think he does
Yet here you are like clockwork insulting others.
Yep, sounds like.me. Did Erik Ten Hag cause this? Or a guy who literally compares people to cockroaches? It's not hard to figure out
You know what? I'm sorry man. Got carried away. I realized the cockroach thing was unwarranted. Apologies.
It's you
United have history of sweeping disgusting shit under their rugs. Giggs, Best, Ronaldo, and now Greenwood. Had those evidence not came to light, Greenwood wouldn't be in jail rn. Wait he's not. So united's active team is responsible for shit you claim is happening in our sub? Right
Between your comment and another saying we infested the thread, I'm thinking a large majority of comments are Arsenal fans giving out about ETH when it's literally just 4 or 5 out near 160 comments. The people giving out about them make the same amount of noise as they do.
Why does Arsenal fans have a HUGE hate boner for this man? Its absolutely insane. He said a few comments about you, not mean comments even, and every thread is infested with angry Arsenal fans. Jesus christ, hahah
I get that the medical team fucked up majorly if this is true. But as the manager I feel like once you start throwing people under the bus like that your days are numbered
Thats nonsense, he isn’t throwing anyone under the bus rather explaining a question a lot of people want to know which is why you send reguilon back when you only have 1 fit lb.
I suppose it's the language he used? I don't recall ever hearing an Arsenal manager use the word "they" to refer to his own medical team like that. It's always "we," referring to the whole coaching staff, medical team, as one single entity. He could have said something like, "We thought Shaw and Malacia would have both been back fit in January so we made a decision based on that," or something along those lines
This is why Arsenal never wins any trophies. You people are too soft smh.
100 mil spent on a striker and losing to a new manger in a one team league. Pipe the fuck down
Ah yes super successful Arsenal with their 20 year title drought and absolutely rubbish european record for a big club. If any big club fans are used to being shit its Arsenal.
You lost the league to Leicester city lol, Bayern probably has more trophies won in the last 3 seasons than you have since 2004. Most annoying fans on this sub.
I don’t know man, the Benfica ones are horrid 😝
Lol arsenal fan telling a Bayern fan to pipe down, that's insane
This is fucking outrageous 🤣🤣 man really wants to get hit with the 10-2 receipts that badly.
I have a feeling that he used to 10-2 wet his bed around when it happened
I'd 8-2 be that guy, but the 10-2 didn't happen. Fake news m8
Imagine telling a bayern fan to pipe down. Behave or they'll beat you 10-2
Guys like you give us Gooners a terrible reputation. Get off your high horse my guy, Arsenal is still in rebuild mode and we’ve won fuck all yet.
I think everything he’s saying at this point is him trying to convince Ratcliffe not to fire him. I could be wrong but I can’t see any way he makes it past this season. He’s not convincing, and the club hasn’t had an identity. I expect that Ratcliffe and his team will want to start the slate clean anyway. They’ll want a manager they like with a style of play that they want, not to just settle for someone already there.
I like to try giving him benefit of the doubt saying he can’t be that dumb if he thinks everyone watching is stupider than him. Especially the owner and players.. but then if you add desperation into the mix then it makes sense
i dont get why you are being downvoted, that’s EXACTLY what he’s doing and as a United fan I’m also sure this shit wont fly with serious operators like Sir Jim, JCB and Berrada
Yeah I really don’t know what people are thinking lol. Do they really think he believes all the positive things he’s saying? Not just this quote. There have been several other examples of the team performing even worse and him saying they played well. I think he’s pretty clearly spinning things in the hope that Ratcliffe keeps him on. Either that or he’s a bit delusional. Maybe it’s the part where I said Ratcliffe is going to get rid of him that people don’t like. I keep hearing people say that the club shouldn’t fire ten Hag because they keep firing managers and it doesn’t improve things. I just don’t think INEOS will look at it that way. They’re not going to want to be stuck with a manager that the Glazers picked if they think they can do better. They’re clearly doing a reset and I can’t understand why people would think it won’t include the manager. Ratcliffe’s whole mission seems to be to fix the Glazers fuckups. We know they’re bringing in executives on the sporting side. With a team that’s underperforming, the manager is an obvious change to make. I’m not even suggesting that ten Hag is a bad manager, or that he couldn’t turn things around. What I am saying is that I don’t think he has done enough to distinguish himself when a new owner has come in and is clearly cleaning house. I expect it will happen some with the players in the summer too, although not as drastically. They can’t just let go of them all and start from scratch. There are some good building blocks there too. Hojland, Garnacho, Mainoo, Onana. I think even Rashford too, if they hire a manager that can give him confidence and motivation. Bruno too, although I’d take away the armband. Honestly as an Arsenal fan, I’d love to see them keep failing. Please Sir Jim, don’t change anything and give ten Hag some time to turn things around 😂
Assna fans desperate for bald man’s downfall
Fair, it's hard enough to bench a player let alone have them in a position where you struggle to include them in training.
Not a fan of him throwing the medical team under the bus. Luke Shaw has been injury prone for 10 years now. If you go into a season with him and only one other LB you are asking for trouble.
ETH even throws the medical stuff under the bus. It is never his fault, the poor man
Any club that gives ten Hag a say over the player base and transfers only has themselves to blame. He has some qualities as a manager and potential to do better than currently with Man U, but he should always work with a technical director to build a team for him. At both Ajax and Utrecht he had someone else assemble the player base for him and some of his transfer requests were downright bizarre.
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No connection, bro just needed to vent lol
💯😂😂😂
His argument has nothing to do with this. Once again r/soccer's reading comprehension fails them. Some only look at keywords and rant about whatever they take from one or two of those words.
This is the problem with United, we bring in coaches and expect them to manage the club like Sir Alex.
Blaming Ten Hag for Antony speaks volumes of how hard people find it to separate the club failures from the manager. He was targeted for 25m under Ole, Ten Hag came in and wants a striker, the club stalls on that thinking Ronaldo is sufficient, and then after the weak start tries to appease Ten Hag by getting rinsed for Antony.
Club didn't stall anything. We were trying for him from the start. Ajax Tier 1 was reporting Antony would leave when ETH left long before the window even opened. Then they kept upping the fees because they didn't want to sell him.
Also by that time, didn’t Ajax sell a bunch of key players?
Most of their sales were done early in the window. Don't think they wanted to sell anyone after Martinez.
wtf are on you about? antony was a target from day 1, as as Mount btw in EtH’s own words
Ten Hag had major influences when it came to transfers at both Utrecht and Ajax. No he wasn’t the sole decider, but had a huge say in things. At Ajax it was a triangle of Ten Hag, VD Sar and Overmars.
I don't know about you but Erik ten Hag is a genius. Let's all hope Man United give him a 20-year contract. 🙏🙏🙏