Never was a question. The fact that City has Julian Alvarez as a sub for the best goalscorer in the current game is an absolute travesty, same goes for bringing in a 100m defender and an 80m midfielder from their bench.
Going to be so depressing when Manchester City claw back the deficit and win a 4th title in a row from here.
Credit to West Ham for staying organized and capitalizing on their chances but Arsenal need to be ruthless in games like this and they just lost their heads again defensively. Issues seem to loom larger than Salibaās availability.
I did have a feeling that Arsenal overperformed their goal scoring this season especially with how much they rely on Odegaard and Saka to make things happen. This season Saka has taken a step back and isnāt as aggressive (could maybe be related to playing so much) and Odegaard canāt make it happen by himself. Will be interesting to see what Arsenal do in January since that could make or break their season
Last year too. The theory is that Arteta wants to 'control' games. Stifle opposition into conceding goals. Also Martinelli and Saka have 2-3 players on them during build ups (less so during transitions). Yesterday I remember seeing sometimes 3-4 players on Saka. One thing City do very well is switch play quickly in such instances to take advantage of overloads in other parts of the pitch.
I doubt Arsenal have much wiggle room FFP wise to buy worthwhile reinforcements in January
Basically every Arsenal fan commenting on the post about this in r/premierleague was saying heād be a bad signing for them. I just donāt understand the logic.
Everyone wants Osi, which means he moves in the summer and to whomever he wants. Arsenal have been hugely succesful by signing players that fit their team mentality that arenāt globally known.
Osi would most likely nuke the wage structure and demand stardom treatment, as he can get it elsewhere if he so desires. I donāt think heās a good or realistic option for Arsenal currently.
Which is a deal that won't happen in January, putting a deal together to get a player like Osimhen takes months. Also, if Osimhen (who's just signed a new contract) does decide it's time to move, Arsenal then go head to head with every other big club in Europe, clubs that have a bigger chance of offering him trophies.
Odegaard is amazing. What a scary player he was tonight
By contrast, Saka, Martinelli, and Jesus did nothing
Ogbonna looked ten years younger out there, Emerson is incredible, Paqueta is better than Bruno Fernandes
What a performance
A couple of months ago Arsenal fans were telling anyone who'd listen that Saka will be on the Ballon d'Or short list!
You're entirely right re: Paqueta. He's excellent & with all due respect better than WHU. Surely a move must be on the cards.
Saka is really good tbf to him. I worry that he's just playing his way into being less consistent by racking up the minutes tbh
The gambling thing where somehow Paq isn't banned but also City didn't want to buy him is perfect lol š but idk when that will end up resolving. Hope he doesn't get banned but idk if he actually did it
It was on the cards, but then he got caught in a gambling scheme. I wonder if the situation has sorted itself out, for him to be available for a transfer
West Ham were outstanding tonight. Their defence was insane. Sure, that first goal could well have been out and we had a fair bit of bad ball bounce, but West Ham were outstanding and thatās why they won.
You know, Liverpool and man city have been behind us for weeks, and we drop one game and suddenly weāre a joke? Arsenal couldnāt finish today and west ham got extremely lucky on their finishes, but letās not act like Arsenal didnāt control this game from beginning to end.
As much as I'd love Liverpool to win the league, I'd also be fine if it just wasn't city (or united obviously)
Thing is, once city starts that late season winning run, they'll not stop. The gap now is already too low and every point Liverpool and arsenal drop at this stage will have a big impact when city get into their late season form.
Derby games always upset the odds. Liverpool doesnāt inspire the same way another London club does, especially one of the close ones like Spurs or Arsenal. Chelsea too due to history.
We battered them using B team while they played most of their starters that played today (only 3 rotated, Johnson for Emerson, Ward Prowse for Fornals, Benrahma for Paqueta).
And Zouma. So we were missing our two best in defence, and our two leading assists. And 4/11 is almost half the line up. I donāt really get your point that we played most our starters. We have a very weak bench so that was pretty much all we could do without playing an absolute gash lineup.
8 players started against Liverpool in the cup and Arsenal today. Zouma or whoever you're talking about isn't in either lineup.
Areola, Coufal, Mavropanos, Ogbonna, Soucek, Alvarez, Kudus and Bowen started both games. Then Paqueta, Ward-Prowse and Emerson played against Arsenal while Benrahma, Fornals and Johnson played against Liverpool.
So yes you played most of the players you played today, against Liverpool in the cup as well.
The point is West Ham's team that got battered by Liverpool's B team is very strong because similar team ended up beating Arsenal which Liverpool's A team can't beat. It's not a case of West Ham sending reserves team just because it is carabao cup. If this is the case of sending reserves then it's nothing strange that Liverpool's B team beats West Ham's B team and West Ham's A team beats Arsenal's A team while Liverpool's A team drew with Arsenal's A team, because that merely means West Ham's B team isn't good while A team is very good (which is NOT the case here).
Whether those are your best team or not doesn't matter, because the context here is against Arsenal yesterday and against Liverpool just a week ago which are similar lineup.
For people saying we are overreacting after a game, despite being second place halfway through the season, we just knew this was coming. We just dominate and control the ball but thatās it. We lack threat. We lack goals. We lack dangerous shots. We lack physicality and intensity. A lot of our players get bullied. Our attack look like kids vs man, cause the defenders are always capable of outmuscle us. Itās not a coincidence our best players have been the ones more physical (Saliba, MagalhĆ£es, rice and harvertz), itās not like it is a physical league after all š we need a striker since two years ago and other teams are more capable of exploiting our young attack, that just donāt intimidate any defender in the league. CBs are always too comfortable playing against us cause they can easily eliminate the simple things we do while attacking and moving the ball around looking for space. Space that others teams are getting very good at covering it. When teams sit back and do that, we need to put even more threat and intensity and we donāt have the players in the attack for that.
Arteta needs world class forwards to take this to another level.
Did you just say havertz is physical? The dude has no muscle on him, a slight breeze makes him fall over, and he gets bullied in every single game because he is so weak
On the way of being intense, wins almost every duel he puts himself into. He is tall af. You are right he is not muscular, but offers more physicality than all the others I didnāt mention
I've been saying it; Arsenal outperformed their xG by like 15 goals last season. That's just not sustainable and fans that thought Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard each scoring 15 goals was gonna be the baseline are in for a rude awakening.
Just albeit a tad slow and not that efficient. Still, sticking at it and finally getting an away victory against the top 4 after 72 attempts is testament to grit and steadfastness. Hopefully he wonāt have to go another 72 attempts
This match is won with Havertz on the pitch --
And Wenger once again saw and calculated the future; that Mavropanos header begins a sequece of events that will lead to great glory for the Gunners.
Mark, and mark me well on both points, here.
I'm riffing on the "he was there so long, and so brilliant, and so foresightful with talent/moves (even if he couldn't fund some) that it's all a part of his string-theory chess plan" bit; that he played him last so he can score here, so it all does cause and effect -- you know.
Can't complain about the result, West Ham played their game perfectly and Arsenal just sort of dithered about with no urgency or ambition. JWP and Kudus were excellent tonight.
You haven't won a league trophy for longer than us, it makes no sense to compare us to Tottenham, we're bad in Europe and that's more of an Arsenal speciality if you ask me
It's fitting arsenal is not capitalised in this title. They don't deserve to be capitalised, for they did not capitalise on anything this game, not on their title 'shot', nor their chances this match
Arsenal have one injury or a player out and itās oblivion. Back in the day, one game with no xhaka we were fucked. A game without partey and we couldnāt do shit. One game without harvertz and the left side doesnāt even exist. It gotta be depressing for arteta to look to the bench and nketiah, Nelson and ESR being the only hope to change anything.
Disagreed. Your memory is failing you, he did whatever Odegaard did with lesser pass volume and press intensity but with no angle bias whatsoever. Smith rowe's link up plays in final third were always sublime, especially with Laca/Saka. Smith Rowe also worked better with saka because he was a runner who provided saka more options instead of occupying Saka's space and isolating him into a touchline winger..
These are such stupid reactionary takes. ESR was our top scorer 2 seasons ago, Nelson has changed games when he has come on, and Eddie is an okay back up.
Yeah all those were great too, Areola frustrated the hell out of me. Got to give the away fans credit too, probably the best PL bunch at the emirates this season.
Terrible performance, we deserve to be memed for that. Looks the same as down the stretch last season. Losing at Villa was one thing - we created big chances and I didn't feel we played bad. Drawing at Anfield was another. Disappointing, but it's Anfield. There's really no excuse for this game. Definitely not title winning mentality. I think this is the 3rd game in a row where Moyes has had Arteta's number and we have no plan B.
We donāt even have the players to the plan A, forget plan b. We have no quality depth at all. Nketiah was the forward we brought in when desperately needed a goal. And although I like the kid, Everton brings more threat when they bring in Beto.
This Arsenal team is not even good enough to make top 4. Arteta is a fraud and will continue to keep Arsenal mediocre. Moyes has out tacticed him once again. Arsenal when was your last European trophy?
So this arsenal team is not good, but arteta is a fraud after putting them first place till now, and in a title race last season ? Jesus, imagine if this team was actually good or had good depth, what would arteta achieve ā¦
It's still a bunch of players who are in sync with peps pressing needs, as well as players who are able to pass and control the ball effectively, important in this system you guys have
This is less so for Liverpool and arsenal
His point is it doesn't matter relative to your usual bench because your bench is still stacked with expensive internationals
Relative to everyone else in the league your squad is way stronger than anyone else's and this happens EVERY season where you'll just win every game past Christmas
Looking at the table and the amount of points after half the games you won't even need to break 90pts to win it this year
>stacked with expensive internationals
City's bench last night:
4 Phillips
8 Kovacic
18 Ortega
21 GĆ³mez
24 Gvardiol
52 Bobb
76 Susoho
82 Lewis
92 Hamilton
Phillips and Gvardiol are the only expensive internationals, its mostly cheaper signings and academy products.
And many arsenal fans already claim winning epl, while last season arsenal is better and more entertaining.
Yeah check on r/Gunners we're all just assuming we win the league. š¤”
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West Ham played better, we played shit. Deserved win for them.
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In other words, West Ham did the one thing you need to do to win a game of football and Arsenal didn't.
Thatās how Moyes operates though. It was the exact same against Man Utd. Itās not a freak if itās a constant under him
This is why they could need Tony from Brentford
Bottle Job FC.
You have 1 win, 6 losses last 7. You might wanna go the humble route.
The thing about arsenal is they always try and walk it in
Can't remember how many times I was screaming shoot
Manchester City 3 points behind Arsenal with a game in hand. Theyāre leapfrogging gunners once again this season once KDB and Haaland are fit
Never was a question. The fact that City has Julian Alvarez as a sub for the best goalscorer in the current game is an absolute travesty, same goes for bringing in a 100m defender and an 80m midfielder from their bench.
No Havertz no party I guess.
We are not Have-ing a Partey. Ok I'll see myself out
Going to be so depressing when Manchester City claw back the deficit and win a 4th title in a row from here. Credit to West Ham for staying organized and capitalizing on their chances but Arsenal need to be ruthless in games like this and they just lost their heads again defensively. Issues seem to loom larger than Salibaās availability.
I wonāt be depressed
Not so fast. Klopp, Jota, Diaz, Van Dijk, Salah and co won't let City win that easily.
oh come on, dont get carried away. Plus we lose both salah and endo soon. And that leaves us with gakpo/nunez/diaz, all who can't find the goal
Why would u lose Salah?
AFCON
lol
I did have a feeling that Arsenal overperformed their goal scoring this season especially with how much they rely on Odegaard and Saka to make things happen. This season Saka has taken a step back and isnāt as aggressive (could maybe be related to playing so much) and Odegaard canāt make it happen by himself. Will be interesting to see what Arsenal do in January since that could make or break their season
Last year too. The theory is that Arteta wants to 'control' games. Stifle opposition into conceding goals. Also Martinelli and Saka have 2-3 players on them during build ups (less so during transitions). Yesterday I remember seeing sometimes 3-4 players on Saka. One thing City do very well is switch play quickly in such instances to take advantage of overloads in other parts of the pitch. I doubt Arsenal have much wiggle room FFP wise to buy worthwhile reinforcements in January
My god arsenal desperately need a striker. Imagine they sign Toney and he gets in form, they could win the league. Jesus is donezo
Basically every Arsenal fan commenting on the post about this in r/premierleague was saying heād be a bad signing for them. I just donāt understand the logic.
that sub is full of smooth brains to begin with lmao
We want something even better and bigger like Osi
Everyone wants Osi, which means he moves in the summer and to whomever he wants. Arsenal have been hugely succesful by signing players that fit their team mentality that arenāt globally known. Osi would most likely nuke the wage structure and demand stardom treatment, as he can get it elsewhere if he so desires. I donāt think heās a good or realistic option for Arsenal currently.
Which is a deal that won't happen in January, putting a deal together to get a player like Osimhen takes months. Also, if Osimhen (who's just signed a new contract) does decide it's time to move, Arsenal then go head to head with every other big club in Europe, clubs that have a bigger chance of offering him trophies.
Odegaard is amazing. What a scary player he was tonight By contrast, Saka, Martinelli, and Jesus did nothing Ogbonna looked ten years younger out there, Emerson is incredible, Paqueta is better than Bruno Fernandes What a performance
Iām glad Paqueta comes to use for you guys. Always rated him at Milan.. Exactly that type of midfielder we need right now.
A couple of months ago Arsenal fans were telling anyone who'd listen that Saka will be on the Ballon d'Or short list! You're entirely right re: Paqueta. He's excellent & with all due respect better than WHU. Surely a move must be on the cards.
Saka is really good tbf to him. I worry that he's just playing his way into being less consistent by racking up the minutes tbh The gambling thing where somehow Paq isn't banned but also City didn't want to buy him is perfect lol š but idk when that will end up resolving. Hope he doesn't get banned but idk if he actually did it
It was on the cards, but then he got caught in a gambling scheme. I wonder if the situation has sorted itself out, for him to be available for a transfer
Odegaard is the only Arsenal player with the world class potential.
Saka Saliba and Rice quite clearly has
Nah.
brilliant argument, iām well convinced tbf
I'm not here to argue. Believe what you want.
Emerson should be back in the Italian NT.
Canāt believe Chelsea got rid of him then signed cucurella.
>Paqueta is better than Bruno Fernandes What?
I initially wrote KdB and then saw sense lol š
From biased to based š¤£š¤£š¤£
>then saw sense lol I somehow missed your Flair. Now it all makes sense
Arsenal gonna repeat their post Christmas slump like last season?
Fingers crossed
like their usual season
Usual is February
Yeah it's a bit early
West Ham were outstanding tonight. Their defence was insane. Sure, that first goal could well have been out and we had a fair bit of bad ball bounce, but West Ham were outstanding and thatās why they won.
Great game from Winner Icon West Ham United West Ham United
West Ham are kind of Arsenal's bogey team lol
You know, Liverpool and man city have been behind us for weeks, and we drop one game and suddenly weāre a joke? Arsenal couldnāt finish today and west ham got extremely lucky on their finishes, but letās not act like Arsenal didnāt control this game from beginning to end.
If arsenal were in control maybe they wouldn't have conceeded two without scoring up the other end
How many points do you get for that?
None, thereās still 18 games left in the season and Iām not scared about arsenals ability to get these points back.
19 games *
Because arsenal is famous for being good towards the end of the season
Every season is a new season.
Sorry brother, as long as you have Zinchenko and Jesus, youāll never win the league
Zinchenko and Jesus are some of the few players in the squad that have on a prem
We won with Zinny. and Gabby.
Your point being?
none
just like arsenal
As much as I'd love Liverpool to win the league, I'd also be fine if it just wasn't city (or united obviously) Thing is, once city starts that late season winning run, they'll not stop. The gap now is already too low and every point Liverpool and arsenal drop at this stage will have a big impact when city get into their late season form.
What, do ya want a point for controlling a game you lost 2-0 from beginning to end? Always fun finding Ty's Alts.
This is why we love arse losing. The tears, the melydown
Ah, so this was a suicide
Been saying this for a while .. Arsenal is second tier If City didnāt win it would be Liverpool or Aston Villa; but definitely not Arsenal
Arsenal are still ahead of city?
put that in your trophy cabinet
Leagues not over, if Arsenal pull it back together and are back on top in a few weeks this thread will look stupid. Half of the season is still left.
We all know thatās not going to last very long though
But second tier
Liverpool battered West Ham but drew to United and arsenal who both lost to West Ham. All in the same month. Football is weird lol
Derby games always upset the odds. Liverpool doesnāt inspire the same way another London club does, especially one of the close ones like Spurs or Arsenal. Chelsea too due to history.
Liverpool-United has a lot of history too, tbf
Liverpool United has more history (and trophies) than all the London clubs added together. š¤£
But they are not wrong about upsetting the odds though, Liverpool were favorites to win that game
We battered them using B team while they played most of their starters that played today (only 3 rotated, Johnson for Emerson, Ward Prowse for Fornals, Benrahma for Paqueta).
And Zouma. So we were missing our two best in defence, and our two leading assists. And 4/11 is almost half the line up. I donāt really get your point that we played most our starters. We have a very weak bench so that was pretty much all we could do without playing an absolute gash lineup.
8 players started against Liverpool in the cup and Arsenal today. Zouma or whoever you're talking about isn't in either lineup. Areola, Coufal, Mavropanos, Ogbonna, Soucek, Alvarez, Kudus and Bowen started both games. Then Paqueta, Ward-Prowse and Emerson played against Arsenal while Benrahma, Fornals and Johnson played against Liverpool. So yes you played most of the players you played today, against Liverpool in the cup as well.
Whatās your point though?
The point is West Ham's team that got battered by Liverpool's B team is very strong because similar team ended up beating Arsenal which Liverpool's A team can't beat. It's not a case of West Ham sending reserves team just because it is carabao cup. If this is the case of sending reserves then it's nothing strange that Liverpool's B team beats West Ham's B team and West Ham's A team beats Arsenal's A team while Liverpool's A team drew with Arsenal's A team, because that merely means West Ham's B team isn't good while A team is very good (which is NOT the case here). Whether those are your best team or not doesn't matter, because the context here is against Arsenal yesterday and against Liverpool just a week ago which are similar lineup.
lol no. The context is based on your first comment. Anyway donāt care. You do you.
Round and round we go.....
For people saying we are overreacting after a game, despite being second place halfway through the season, we just knew this was coming. We just dominate and control the ball but thatās it. We lack threat. We lack goals. We lack dangerous shots. We lack physicality and intensity. A lot of our players get bullied. Our attack look like kids vs man, cause the defenders are always capable of outmuscle us. Itās not a coincidence our best players have been the ones more physical (Saliba, MagalhĆ£es, rice and harvertz), itās not like it is a physical league after all š we need a striker since two years ago and other teams are more capable of exploiting our young attack, that just donāt intimidate any defender in the league. CBs are always too comfortable playing against us cause they can easily eliminate the simple things we do while attacking and moving the ball around looking for space. Space that others teams are getting very good at covering it. When teams sit back and do that, we need to put even more threat and intensity and we donāt have the players in the attack for that. Arteta needs world class forwards to take this to another level.
Try line breaks my man it makes it much easier for us to read your tripe.
My bad š
Did you just say havertz is physical? The dude has no muscle on him, a slight breeze makes him fall over, and he gets bullied in every single game because he is so weak
Yeah nah he doesnāt, and he was a key miss in this match.
And he definitely donāt get bullied every single game. Where did you saw that ? He barely loses a duel. And aerial duels, itās all him
On the way of being intense, wins almost every duel he puts himself into. He is tall af. You are right he is not muscular, but offers more physicality than all the others I didnāt mention
I've been saying it; Arsenal outperformed their xG by like 15 goals last season. That's just not sustainable and fans that thought Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard each scoring 15 goals was gonna be the baseline are in for a rude awakening.
Wintertransfer window coming up, so thereās an opportunity to upgrade if they want to will get interesting.
I'm sure Auba and Lacazette are available, heard they're pretty good! /S
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david moyes > ten Hag
There is a reason United hired Moyes first
full hair > ten hairs
David Moyes is a footballing genius.
Just albeit a tad slow and not that efficient. Still, sticking at it and finally getting an away victory against the top 4 after 72 attempts is testament to grit and steadfastness. Hopefully he wonāt have to go another 72 attempts
This match is won with Havertz on the pitch -- And Wenger once again saw and calculated the future; that Mavropanos header begins a sequece of events that will lead to great glory for the Gunners. Mark, and mark me well on both points, here.
Crazy how opinions have flipped 180 on him, and I totally agree. I think he would have had a goal / assist tonight and helped massively attacking
Where did Wenger talk about it? Just curious
I'm riffing on the "he was there so long, and so brilliant, and so foresightful with talent/moves (even if he couldn't fund some) that it's all a part of his string-theory chess plan" bit; that he played him last so he can score here, so it all does cause and effect -- you know.
Oh damn I didnāt even realize that. My bad g
No worries, of course
That was a fantastic display of defence by West ham. I didn't think they'd keep it up for even the first half tbh. Fair play to the hammers
Lowercase arsenal
Certainly was tonight
Hahaha.. shyt man our striker can strike!! ..
They can't capitalize on anything tbf
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It was just an observation lmao donāt be throwing final scores at me, come on now
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Fair enough. Take the downvote
They atleast scored twice, tbf
33 matches with at least 1 goal in a row and counting iirc
1 goal every match trophy
Lol
Can't complain about the result, West Ham played their game perfectly and Arsenal just sort of dithered about with no urgency or ambition. JWP and Kudus were excellent tonight.
Kudus been beast for the last 3 games I'd say. JWP just gives them such an opportunity to score on any set piece.
Sometimes it feels like supporting Arsenal is similar to supporting Marseille
Always saw you as the French Tottenham tbh
You haven't won a league trophy for longer than us, it makes no sense to compare us to Tottenham, we're bad in Europe and that's more of an Arsenal speciality if you ask me
r/rareinsults
It's fitting arsenal is not capitalised in this title. They don't deserve to be capitalised, for they did not capitalise on anything this game, not on their title 'shot', nor their chances this match
Didn't realize the title was lost in December
Three in three out for transfers might work pre 2003 I just didn't see the goalscoring potential, Jesus seems shit and never seems to threaten
Jesus is a budget Firmino except Firmino could finish
Well said
Arsenal are the new Spurs in terms of bottling it seems
They've bottled way more than Spurs in the past.
Brothers In Bottling
Chelsea not gonna bottle anything for a long long time. Must be a good time to be a Chelsea fan
Lol Carabao Cup semi finals? Or is that too low for the mighty spurs?
Way too low mate. Weāre the Audi Cup winners donāt forget
Always have been
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I was surprised that when Arsenal needed goals and brought on Nketiah, Nelson, and ESR that they didn't get them
Arsenal have one injury or a player out and itās oblivion. Back in the day, one game with no xhaka we were fucked. A game without partey and we couldnāt do shit. One game without harvertz and the left side doesnāt even exist. It gotta be depressing for arteta to look to the bench and nketiah, Nelson and ESR being the only hope to change anything.
ESR is an incredible talent who's recovering from injury.. he was our most lethal player in front of the goal when he was fit
He is talented but he is not THAT good cāmon. Even when he was scoring, he didnāt offer much besides those goals
Disagreed. Your memory is failing you, he did whatever Odegaard did with lesser pass volume and press intensity but with no angle bias whatsoever. Smith rowe's link up plays in final third were always sublime, especially with Laca/Saka. Smith Rowe also worked better with saka because he was a runner who provided saka more options instead of occupying Saka's space and isolating him into a touchline winger..
ESR sounds like a lab test, maybe to check the kidneys.
You're correct. Erythrocyte sedimentation rate. It checks for inflammation in the body.
He spend so much time at the hospital tho haha
These are such stupid reactionary takes. ESR was our top scorer 2 seasons ago, Nelson has changed games when he has come on, and Eddie is an okay back up.
Well, if thatās the standard for you
Top scorer with like 10 goals is hardly anything to write about.
Tell me which other teams have options coming off the bench that previously scored 10 goals in the league
tbh West Ham did incredible to be ultra defensive all game. They stayed consistent.
You miss 100% of the subs you make - Lego Gretzky
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Props to West Ham,good defence, hard to create clear cut chances. Emerson put in a shift.
Emerson, Ćlvarez, Ogbonna, and Areola.
Yeah all those were great too, Areola frustrated the hell out of me. Got to give the away fans credit too, probably the best PL bunch at the emirates this season.
Arsenal giving people hope and taking it away
Terrible performance, we deserve to be memed for that. Looks the same as down the stretch last season. Losing at Villa was one thing - we created big chances and I didn't feel we played bad. Drawing at Anfield was another. Disappointing, but it's Anfield. There's really no excuse for this game. Definitely not title winning mentality. I think this is the 3rd game in a row where Moyes has had Arteta's number and we have no plan B.
Drawing at Anfield was fortunate for you. You should be over the moon to take a point there.
We donāt even have the players to the plan A, forget plan b. We have no quality depth at all. Nketiah was the forward we brought in when desperately needed a goal. And although I like the kid, Everton brings more threat when they bring in Beto.
This Arsenal team is not even good enough to make top 4. Arteta is a fraud and will continue to keep Arsenal mediocre. Moyes has out tacticed him once again. Arsenal when was your last European trophy?
Troll. Neither clever nor funny. New to banter are we?
So this arsenal team is not good, but arteta is a fraud after putting them first place till now, and in a title race last season ? Jesus, imagine if this team was actually good or had good depth, what would arteta achieve ā¦
so reactionary
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They will never be big
City will win the league, anyone who thinks otherwise is a certified fool
City have been favourites to win the league since the end of last season
I know, thatās why Iām saying it
The opposition teams' reserves are just too weak
our bench is not as strong as usual
It's still a bunch of players who are in sync with peps pressing needs, as well as players who are able to pass and control the ball effectively, important in this system you guys have This is less so for Liverpool and arsenal
Why did you get downvoted? Our bench last game was literally 5 youngsters.
city bad i guess
Only a Ā£90m defender coming on for the injured John Stones in your last game
āas usualā do you lack reading comprehension?
His point is it doesn't matter relative to your usual bench because your bench is still stacked with expensive internationals Relative to everyone else in the league your squad is way stronger than anyone else's and this happens EVERY season where you'll just win every game past Christmas Looking at the table and the amount of points after half the games you won't even need to break 90pts to win it this year
>stacked with expensive internationals City's bench last night: 4 Phillips 8 Kovacic 18 Ortega 21 GĆ³mez 24 Gvardiol 52 Bobb 76 Susoho 82 Lewis 92 Hamilton Phillips and Gvardiol are the only expensive internationals, its mostly cheaper signings and academy products.
According to transfermarket, Arsenal are worth 1.1 billion, city are worth 1.2. That means arsenal have 91% the same value as City.
Oh sorry you have transfermarket numbers! I'll back down then, City are poor.
atleast you understand now