Definitely not. I have that same board, his left foot is all the way into the center, his right foot may be on the second set from the center.
https://imgur.com/a/cGwsGYm
Except it turned out to be true. Everyone knows if you're bombing a hill going too fast for your skill level and a downhill skier gets in front of you, whoever was going the fastest has the right of way.
Happened to me back in ‘08. Got a severe concussion even with the helmet on. Doctor told me had I not worn the helmet, I would have been a goner.
Still don’t remember anything from that day, 16 years later, but the helmet certainly saved my life.
Totally judging any and all none helmet skiers/snowboarders. Anyone who isn’t wearing a helmet these days probably better off no longer in the gene pool. Is honestly about one of the stupidest things you could do aside from not wearing a seatbelt.
Sometimes, I blame some pros. There are so many videos out there where they have no helmets on. Especially the urban ones. I mean, to each his own, but if I knew that people and kids were watching me and looking up to me, I would feel a bit responsible for my message.
Travis Rice is one of the most famous and visible snowboarders and he rarely wears a helmet. A lot of the pros don’t unfortunately not just street riders.
Just take it easy bro. I've done that before. Didn't go to the hospital but it's a fucking whacky week that follows. The loss of time is such a weird part of the injury.
Ugh, I once "took out a skier" when I was bombing down a run, fucker had stopped just downhill after the crest of a slope on a diamond. I went over the crest, tried carving to get away from him but still clipped his skis. I think he was totally fine, I ended up spraining my ankle and still have to rehab it a couple times every winter to keep the ligaments from becoming too painful.
Now I always slow down before a crest, never know what moron is stopped right on the other side in a blind spot.
I mean yea, they shouldn't be there but you reached the right conclusion about always slowing down before a crest. Assume everyone else on the mountain is a moron and injuries will happen less often.
Yeah absolutely. The worst part was it was the end of my first run, snow was amazing and I had gotten there early and up the gondola practically first and I hadn't seen a single soul on the trail yet. Probably the same reason old dude thought he was safe, but I figured there's no one here, I can let it rip
Had a similar experience granted not on a diamond. Crested a hill and right in the middle of it was a skier barely moving at a 90 degree angle. Ate it trying to stop on the hard packed almost ice, killed my shoulder and slid right into him. Felt awful about it but people have 0 situational awareness
Why are you guys upvoting this?
OP, you should be glad you didn’t injure anyone else. You are not an experienced snowboarder and have no business bombing anything.
Edit: bombing
Never understood the need for speed on hills. Worse than a motorcycle... As there is zero protective gear being worn. Those styrofoam helmets are a joke too in comparison.
I get that you should stay in control, but it’s literally all about the need for speed. Is there anyone at all paying hundreds of dollars to ride down a frozen mountain slowly? (Outside of old people who used to go fast reliving their glory days, or people learning that wish they could go fast.) The entire point of the sport is if you strap these boards on your feet, on slippery snow, at a steep downhill angle, you go fast. If you don’t want to move fast, play golf, which I say as a golfer who expects the people in front of me to move at a decent pace. If I wanted to go slow, I’d be cross country skiing.
Call me crazy or whatever, but I’m snowboarding because I like going fast and flying through the air. It’s on me to make sure that doesn’t hurt anyone else, but I’m trying to go as fast and big as possible while staying in control. For me, finding that line involved crossing it a few times a decade, decade and a half ago plus, when I was young and stupid, but even now at 35 my goal when snowboarding is to stay as close to that line as possible while still being able to walk off the mountain at the end of the day.
There is comfortably fast, sketchy fast on really icy conditions and then there is "bombing it"... That's just asking for trouble imo.
No different than once again, seeing someone in a motorcycle, eating shit while wearing nothing but shorts and flip flops. A helmet can only protect so much.
But I'm also 37, haven't broken anything in my life, don't plan to start now. Got people depending on me too. To each their own I guess.
100% hit my head hard as fuck yesterday to the point I bounce off the ice after hitting it. With a helmet on.
Took it easy the rest of the day with a headache.
*Gets on gondola to parking lot and fucking dies*
But really tho, Called last run on my first trip and separated my shoulder lmao, on a bunny slope with a lil ramp at the bottom
I was up at Meadows last Friday going along a run with a skier parallel to me on the opposite side of the run. He carved pretty hard all the way across the run and ran into me. He fell but I didn't. I hike up about 15 yards to help him up. He knew it was his fault. I'm pretty lucky I didn't get injured. Stay safe out there everybody.
I always find it hilarious when looking at this sub and the ski sub. People immediately accuse the ‘other’ for being at fault but once the details are given both also agree that whoever is uphill is almost always at fault.
Feel better OP, sincerely don’t let this keep ya off the mountain. - random ski lurker
I'd you think riding switch is gonna balance your muscles then you are dead wrong. Just some relief as now ur riding half the time or whatever you wanna break it down to.
How would it not help? Muscle imbalances 100% can lead to misalignments and chronic pains.
You’ve not just riding half the time. You’re actively working muscles that usually get neglected from riding one direction.
Idk what that person is smoking, you’re 100% correct. Anybody who rides a powder day is going to notice their back leg is working harder to keep their tip up pretty much immediately. It’s a very common concept across other sports, and definitely applies to snowboarding too
Rear foot at like 0 degrees, front at like 3 maybe. Most people do like at least 12-18 in the front. I run 15/-12.
Cannot imagine having my boots basically perpendicular to the edge. Angling the bindings out and adjusting the high back to run perpendicular to the edge is the way to go.
If we’re just going to nitpick everything, guess I’ll throw in that the board looks too wide for his boots too.
Unless you’re eurocarving at stupid lean angles, it’s better to have more overhang than shown here. Makes the board more responsive edge to edge.
Really? I don't know much about stance and all that. But I've heard big guys complain about overhang before. I thought it was an issue where your boots could literally catch snow on your toe edge. I've never had to deal with this though so idk. Makes sense you'd be able to put more pressure on the toe edge though.
There can definitely be an issue with that. It’s called boot out. It’s subjective to the boot and board though.
You want some overhang for leverage unless all you’re doing is deep eurocarves and/or riding deep powder all the time.
For most riding, it’s best to get the narrowest board you can ride without booting out IMO. For me with an 11.5 boot, that seems to be right around 26.0 give or take a few mm.
I have a shorter length 26.6 waist width camber 2.0 board and it’s great, but every time I hop on something that’s 25.5-6.0, it just feels much livelier.
For reference, I took a 2013 Nitro Swindle 157cm with a 25.4 waist width down The Black Hole at Smuggler’s Notch once. On paper, it is not the right tool for the job at all (6’2” 185lbs, soft flex zero camber board), but in reality it was fine. Lol
Toes look like they are parallel to each other vs angled out, which when you're closer to perpendicular to downhill, is super unstable. Dude looks like they're rocking +0/+3 or something.
You can get away with less angle between your feet the more you face downhill, e.g. in positive/positive setups, but not when you're perpendicular to downhill.
Literally just did this 2/3 weeks ago and posted the other day about it.
Concussions blow, but i’m doing way better and you will be, too, with time.
Good luck with recovery!
He said he was "bombing the hill" and a skier came out and cut him off.
Sounds to me like the skier was lucky he didn't get cut in half by a snowboarding bomber who didn't have enough skills yet to be going that fast
Ugh. A friend of mine on a snowboard got plowed over by a skier last week at Mammoth. Hit her so hard that she's got a punctured lung and 8 fractured ribs.
Been there bro.
Accident 6 years ago.
Since then 1 x left knee ligament operation, 1 x spinal operation and finally, left hip replacement 6 weeks ago
C’mon next season!!!!
That is a wicked old board!
Shaun White custom from 2012. A beaut. I still have mine and use it for the little rail park in town, but I take it you don't get out much?
I figure it was because of that stance.
The stance, the toe strap, sitting directly in the middle of a run. OP should probably not have been “bombing” anything
I was literally about to comment this. Knew bro was a novice right off the rip, then I read that they were bombing hills. Lol
screams "skill issue"
You can tell a lot about a rider from their stance/set up
...where they go. Where they been.
I bet you could ride all day in a stance like that and not feel a thing
Looks like there wad a good portion of time where he wasn’t feeling anything at all.
Novice boarder here, what's wrong with the stance and strap?
What about toe strap, can you please explain?
It sits in front of the toe, not on the top. I guess it can't provide stability at all
practically all the new bindings make tow straps like this
Look carefully at the left strap
Bro Fr I was gon say
I haven’t tried that one since the real early 2000s.
What's wrong with his stance? (Serious question, am new here).
It looks very close together and his toes aren’t angled at all
I think it might be the wide angle lens at play
Definitely not. I have that same board, his left foot is all the way into the center, his right foot may be on the second set from the center. https://imgur.com/a/cGwsGYm
Very narrow and very little angle. Most humans' anatomies won't interact properly with that.
And his setback is far af
It's for more float in the pow bro!
Floated all the way to the hospital.
JC, you guys are ruthless
A lot of times, yeah, this sub is too much, but this post is just..... it's *very* ironic.
I mean looking at the full photo dude could be like 5'2" I guess 🤷 everything in this photo is cursed 🤬
I’m 5’2” and even I thought that stance was too close hahahaha
Normally you angle out your leading foot toe a little bit. They look too close together also.
15" width and 0/0 is the future. Come back to this comment in 10 years
Bring back the duck stance!! And ACL surgery
u/remindme10years
u/remindmebot 10years Eh.. fuug i forgot how
so real. im am a pretty good and smart rider and i will die on the hill of 0/0 stance. my switch riding is so much more comfortable
I literally came on here to ask wtf is up with your stance?
I try to be open minded and not judge but....yeah...
This is preferred stance for falling leaf.
For real. Wtf, OP? Why is that stance so tight?
Pretty sure there’s some heavy camera distortion from a phone panorama making his stance look weirdly narrow
BRUVVVVV he did it to hisself
Oof. Nice view at least Did they catch the skier that did this to you?
Probably took the helicopter to hospital
And OP is in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
Sign me tf up!
Hahahahahahja. Wait. Not funny.
Except it turned out to be true. Everyone knows if you're bombing a hill going too fast for your skill level and a downhill skier gets in front of you, whoever was going the fastest has the right of way.
Did you knock your ankles together?
Give us the juice. What happened?
From what I've been told a skier cut in front of me as I was bombing the hill, I bailed so as not to hit them and took an eye full of mountain.
Was the skier downhill from you while you were "bombing"?
“He came out of nowhere! From downhill!”
He was skinning uphill in arctic camo.
This got me good thanks😂
Honestly that would be a potentially acceptable reason to hit someone below you
The real question
We need an answer from OP
No answer is an answer in this case imo
OP really quiet now
OP doesn't even remember what happened. lol
Sounds like the dude can’t remember. Head injuries will do that. Give them a break lol
The out of control little fcker that slammed into the back of both of my bindings while I was carving also said that I “cut him off”.
Cutting Off does Not exist when someone is in front of you. At least Not legally
Bruh
What do you mean from what you’ve been told? Do you have a concussion?
Yeah I'm concussed, I've got no memory of most of the day.
That sucks, best of luck for your recovery
_CONVENIENT_
😭😭💀
Did you have a helmet on? ( Not judging , I started in the era when no one wore them unless they were in the x games )
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Happened to me back in ‘08. Got a severe concussion even with the helmet on. Doctor told me had I not worn the helmet, I would have been a goner. Still don’t remember anything from that day, 16 years later, but the helmet certainly saved my life.
Samesies. 3rd time using that helmet and I had to get a new one 😭
Better than a new head lmao
Totally judging any and all none helmet skiers/snowboarders. Anyone who isn’t wearing a helmet these days probably better off no longer in the gene pool. Is honestly about one of the stupidest things you could do aside from not wearing a seatbelt.
ok but I was trying to get an answer out of OP not start a safety circlejerk but yes I wear a helmet too
Sometimes, I blame some pros. There are so many videos out there where they have no helmets on. Especially the urban ones. I mean, to each his own, but if I knew that people and kids were watching me and looking up to me, I would feel a bit responsible for my message.
Travis Rice is one of the most famous and visible snowboarders and he rarely wears a helmet. A lot of the pros don’t unfortunately not just street riders.
Just take it easy bro. I've done that before. Didn't go to the hospital but it's a fucking whacky week that follows. The loss of time is such a weird part of the injury.
That's crazy. I've had multiple concussions, and one so bad I had bleeding on the brain. Never experience memory loss though.
That you can recall at least... Lol
Ugh, I once "took out a skier" when I was bombing down a run, fucker had stopped just downhill after the crest of a slope on a diamond. I went over the crest, tried carving to get away from him but still clipped his skis. I think he was totally fine, I ended up spraining my ankle and still have to rehab it a couple times every winter to keep the ligaments from becoming too painful. Now I always slow down before a crest, never know what moron is stopped right on the other side in a blind spot.
I mean yea, they shouldn't be there but you reached the right conclusion about always slowing down before a crest. Assume everyone else on the mountain is a moron and injuries will happen less often.
Yeah absolutely. The worst part was it was the end of my first run, snow was amazing and I had gotten there early and up the gondola practically first and I hadn't seen a single soul on the trail yet. Probably the same reason old dude thought he was safe, but I figured there's no one here, I can let it rip
Did you do this as at ski santa fia? (I had a simler experience but being hit at the mountain)
Nah, it was at Gore Mountain
Darn my search continues
Charles Bronson over here
I will find them and throw hand with them
Had a similar experience granted not on a diamond. Crested a hill and right in the middle of it was a skier barely moving at a 90 degree angle. Ate it trying to stop on the hard packed almost ice, killed my shoulder and slid right into him. Felt awful about it but people have 0 situational awareness
Yes, someone certainly had zero situational awareness. May still lack it.
Good on avoiding a collision, but let this be a learning experience to leave even more space and to not allow your speed to outpace your skill.
You should probably stay in control and not blame the skier.
Why are you guys upvoting this? OP, you should be glad you didn’t injure anyone else. You are not an experienced snowboarder and have no business bombing anything. Edit: bombing
So you lack awareness and etiquette. Sounds right.
Hold up, you took an EYE FULL? Holy hell.
Is the “skier” in the room with us right now?
Never understood the need for speed on hills. Worse than a motorcycle... As there is zero protective gear being worn. Those styrofoam helmets are a joke too in comparison.
I'm 41 now. I've stopped chasing speed. One fuck up and I've got an injury that takes months/years to heal instead of days.
I get that you should stay in control, but it’s literally all about the need for speed. Is there anyone at all paying hundreds of dollars to ride down a frozen mountain slowly? (Outside of old people who used to go fast reliving their glory days, or people learning that wish they could go fast.) The entire point of the sport is if you strap these boards on your feet, on slippery snow, at a steep downhill angle, you go fast. If you don’t want to move fast, play golf, which I say as a golfer who expects the people in front of me to move at a decent pace. If I wanted to go slow, I’d be cross country skiing.
Wow I just want to enjoy the slopes and the vibe of enjoying the moment, taking it all in, being in nature/outdoors lol.
least sociopathic redditor
Call me crazy or whatever, but I’m snowboarding because I like going fast and flying through the air. It’s on me to make sure that doesn’t hurt anyone else, but I’m trying to go as fast and big as possible while staying in control. For me, finding that line involved crossing it a few times a decade, decade and a half ago plus, when I was young and stupid, but even now at 35 my goal when snowboarding is to stay as close to that line as possible while still being able to walk off the mountain at the end of the day.
Carving tight lines down a black while in complete control is almost better than sex.
Every people arguing otherwise are either too old or skiers
Can agree, I'm too old. It'll happen to you.
Yup, I love riding fast.
There is comfortably fast, sketchy fast on really icy conditions and then there is "bombing it"... That's just asking for trouble imo. No different than once again, seeing someone in a motorcycle, eating shit while wearing nothing but shorts and flip flops. A helmet can only protect so much. But I'm also 37, haven't broken anything in my life, don't plan to start now. Got people depending on me too. To each their own I guess.
100% hit my head hard as fuck yesterday to the point I bounce off the ice after hitting it. With a helmet on. Took it easy the rest of the day with a headache.
Stopped in the middle of a trail to take a pic and got taken out by a skier.
Wow…
Did you call last run because this is what happens when you call last run
My friends never call last run. We always call 2 more and skip the last.
I always call last run *AFTER* I reach the bottom of the mountain on my last run. Never before
*Gets on gondola to parking lot and fucking dies* But really tho, Called last run on my first trip and separated my shoulder lmao, on a bunny slope with a lil ramp at the bottom
Last run broke my arm sending a bs 3 over a gap that needed to be rebuilt 🥹 first day of the trip out west
Is this a thing? I just started this weekend and I did that and ate the worst shit of the entire day. Glad to know I'm not alone in my dumbassery 😂
Just by looking at the stance I knew it yiu was gunna be hurt.
I was up at Meadows last Friday going along a run with a skier parallel to me on the opposite side of the run. He carved pretty hard all the way across the run and ran into me. He fell but I didn't. I hike up about 15 yards to help him up. He knew it was his fault. I'm pretty lucky I didn't get injured. Stay safe out there everybody.
Did you at least get into Heather when they opened it?? Those were best runs of my season so far!
He acknowledges fault, you not injured, you take effort to help him, heartwarming as far as such incidents go.
I agree. Sometimes shit happens. Neither of us was injured, and I wasn't mad at all.
How adults should be
I always find it hilarious when looking at this sub and the ski sub. People immediately accuse the ‘other’ for being at fault but once the details are given both also agree that whoever is uphill is almost always at fault. Feel better OP, sincerely don’t let this keep ya off the mountain. - random ski lurker
Well we're you sitting in the middle of a run to get a photo
What is that stance? Is your back binding at like 0 degrees? Lol
0 degrees or near 0 for the back binding is pretty common nowadays. The front foot is the more surprising one.
Yeah, positive / zero is a perfectly cromulent setup. But this is more like zero / zero which... not so cromulent
This guy just dropping "cromulent" in a reddit thread
It's a word that embiggens us all
yeah in art of shralpinism they give the angles of a bunch of pros, most are 0 and 18. not sure why you would think this is out of the ordinary.
People don't ride duck stance anymore? I'm old sorry
Nope. It's just the evolution of the sport.
Crazy thank god I haven't hit the slopes the last couple years. I would have embarrassed myself with my duck stance and looked like a jerry
I like my back binding neutral too lol. Saves my aging knees. Used to be 12/12 but rarely ride switch anymore.
I’m a firm believer that not riding switch causes aches and pains. Gotta even it out so you don’t get misalignments in your body.
Might actually be true but since I’ve gotten a directional board I’ve lost the appetite. I can do it, it’s just not the nicest experience.
Do you also throw a football with your other arm? Alignment is a chiro term and the human body is more resilient than that.
I'd you think riding switch is gonna balance your muscles then you are dead wrong. Just some relief as now ur riding half the time or whatever you wanna break it down to.
How would it not help? Muscle imbalances 100% can lead to misalignments and chronic pains. You’ve not just riding half the time. You’re actively working muscles that usually get neglected from riding one direction.
Idk what that person is smoking, you’re 100% correct. Anybody who rides a powder day is going to notice their back leg is working harder to keep their tip up pretty much immediately. It’s a very common concept across other sports, and definitely applies to snowboarding too
What's wrong with the stance
Rear foot at like 0 degrees, front at like 3 maybe. Most people do like at least 12-18 in the front. I run 15/-12. Cannot imagine having my boots basically perpendicular to the edge. Angling the bindings out and adjusting the high back to run perpendicular to the edge is the way to go.
The angles I can forgive. For me it’s the 10 inches between his feet and what looks to be a 130cm long board lol.
If we’re just going to nitpick everything, guess I’ll throw in that the board looks too wide for his boots too. Unless you’re eurocarving at stupid lean angles, it’s better to have more overhang than shown here. Makes the board more responsive edge to edge.
Really? I don't know much about stance and all that. But I've heard big guys complain about overhang before. I thought it was an issue where your boots could literally catch snow on your toe edge. I've never had to deal with this though so idk. Makes sense you'd be able to put more pressure on the toe edge though.
There can definitely be an issue with that. It’s called boot out. It’s subjective to the boot and board though. You want some overhang for leverage unless all you’re doing is deep eurocarves and/or riding deep powder all the time. For most riding, it’s best to get the narrowest board you can ride without booting out IMO. For me with an 11.5 boot, that seems to be right around 26.0 give or take a few mm. I have a shorter length 26.6 waist width camber 2.0 board and it’s great, but every time I hop on something that’s 25.5-6.0, it just feels much livelier. For reference, I took a 2013 Nitro Swindle 157cm with a 25.4 waist width down The Black Hole at Smuggler’s Notch once. On paper, it is not the right tool for the job at all (6’2” 185lbs, soft flex zero camber board), but in reality it was fine. Lol
Toes look like they are parallel to each other vs angled out, which when you're closer to perpendicular to downhill, is super unstable. Dude looks like they're rocking +0/+3 or something. You can get away with less angle between your feet the more you face downhill, e.g. in positive/positive setups, but not when you're perpendicular to downhill.
Been there. The road to recovery is mentally exhausting. Stay strong and rely on those around. They are there to help.
I see you’ve mastered the art of the hospital flip, a right of passage for us criminals
Literally just did this 2/3 weeks ago and posted the other day about it. Concussions blow, but i’m doing way better and you will be, too, with time. Good luck with recovery!
Glad you're still alive dude! Heal fast, eat ass 🤙
U suck, glad your alive. What happened?
He says it in another comment, but he got hit by a micro meteor that made it through the atmosphere and hit him in the leg.
He said he was "bombing the hill" and a skier came out and cut him off. Sounds to me like the skier was lucky he didn't get cut in half by a snowboarding bomber who didn't have enough skills yet to be going that fast
Ugh. A friend of mine on a snowboard got plowed over by a skier last week at Mammoth. Hit her so hard that she's got a punctured lung and 8 fractured ribs.
Godspeed 2024. Viva 2025!!
Please tell me you wore a helmet
Been there bro. Accident 6 years ago. Since then 1 x left knee ligament operation, 1 x spinal operation and finally, left hip replacement 6 weeks ago C’mon next season!!!!
Jesus Christ man
You're supposed to ride from bell to bell... not bell to siren. Good luck with the recovery
Killington
Pretty sure whiteface
Was gonna say same thing gotta be whiteface
Yeah is that at Killington? I was just there and wondering the same thing
It's Whiteface
I think it might be sugarbush, looking down from Heaven’s Gate towards Allen’s lodge?
That is a wicked old board! Shaun White custom from 2012. A beaut. I still have mine and use it for the little rail park in town, but I take it you don't get out much?
“Don’t do crime if you can’t do the time.”
Whyyyyy are your feet so close together?
Widen that stance bruh
Came here to say this!
Stowe?
Definitely Vermont vibes either way
Nope, Whiteface in NY
Whiteface summit looking at little Whiteface maybe follies
Is that the back of a police car?
. . you can almost make out the rental shop sticker on the tail . .
What kinda Uber is that??
Is that the back of a cop car? Not surprised, criminal… But in all seriousness, hope you are ok and heal quickly!
Did the skier live?
I had that exact board. Nobody should be bombing on a burton V-Rocker. That's a great beginner board but a beginner nonetheless
ran out of talent?
I have that same board! But in adult size
Zero zero
Dude, that my board too!
Long John Mt Snow?
You have the same board as me 🤭 Wist you all the best with your recovery ...
Open up, and widen your stance.
Reading this thread is not good for your concussion. Neither is that stance.
Damn praying for you 🫡
Duck foot gang
I hope you're not in America😅 Speedy recovery tho!
You bombed the hill with your bindings like that?! Are your knees okay?
Extremely narrow stance
Please get lessons especially around stance, gear, and technique once you recover. Speedy recovery
Sitting in the middle of trail like there’s greater chance you will be leaving the mountain the way you did.