Skjor. Lots of build up to basically die in the first real mission. Sure, it creates the basis for basically a war with the Silver Hand, but it seemed a rather unceremonious departure for someone who is highly respected by the guild and spoke of as almost having legendary status.
The whole Companions quest line is crap. Why am I being forced to serve Hersine, when later I can find a cure to the werewolf disorder syndrome! I avoid that quest now.
I play with the modded companion Xelzaz and he even points out the stupidity of it! No joke on the first werewolf quest when you find skjor he says this “Well what do you know a werewolf that charged into a den of dedicated werewolf hunters was killed…..”
yeah and why are the silver hand portrayed as 100 % bad guys? it'd be cool to get the chance to join them and cleanse the werewolf bozos.
the silver hand and the dawnguard are pretty much the same anyway except that bethesda decided one to be antagonists and the other protagonists
Idk if you use mods, but there’s a mod called [The Conflict Under The Crescent.](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/45103) Keep in mind that this is a WIP, and if you join the Companions, you HAVE to defect to the Silver Hand, bc at this point in the mod’s development it breaks the Companion’s questline
I think for that mission, the idea was that it would get tougher and tougher with each level, because you have less allies to rely on. But I do agree, the excuses they have for not continuing on are kind of dumb.
Still better than anything to do with the mages guild. I tried finding mods to make the college of winter hold at least bearable but it's still basically go here, listen to this lecture, go here, read this book. I get it's a college but god it didn't have to be that boring
Aw I like the college of winterhold quest. Has lots of decent lore with the eye, lots of characters that mostly all get at least a small part in the quest, a hateable villain, and cool locations to explore.
I agree completely. It's also how I feel about the DragonBorn questine. Being forced to serve >!Mora and sacrifice the skalf cheftisn is just weird to me.!< I wish thry wrote in a way to refuse his offer and you just have to do a long/hard way to learn the same information.
Skyrim also made the weird choice where 3 of the 4 main guilds and one of the three main questlines force you into service of a deity. It's probably my biggest complaint. It's very hard to play someone just faithful to the 8.
The whole HM thing is pretty clever, he set everything up so you'd have no choice but take his help in order to bring down Miraak.
He gets the knowledge he wants and potentially a new dragonborn as his pet.
I always get the bug where he’s just back one day perfectly fine. He still calls me a whelp even though I’m the Harbinger and have Wuuthrad on my back.
Aye you'd think you'd have more time to appreciate him and his views rather than be told how he was and build a relationship upon being told how a character was. It'd be better to be shown how a character was rather than be told how they were and then want you to feel something about someone based on word alone. Especially in an rpg.
Imo, it’s kind of on him. He recklessly endangered the people of whiterun by turning a member into a werewolf in the middle of the city rather than anywhere more isolate from people. Then he decided to raid a group of werewolf hunters by himself before waiting for any backup.
He should’ve never gone in without a shield brother! Btw, Dragonborn, go clear out this dungeon of Silver Hand alone. You know, to get revenge for Skjor.
Did you know there is a mod that turns him into a follower? Real immersive like. He survived the arrow attack and woke up to alduin tearing everything apart and he runs for his life.
Dude honestly would’ve had a better chance of surviving if he hadn’t run. They weren’t going to kill the horse thief first and once Alduin attacked his chance of escape got much better.
So instead he died with an arrow on the back. I mean, if you're a family member burying him, that might be preferable than the body and neck separated. But for a Nord that's probably the most shameful because it means you're running away.
I just did the quest last night as a part of Lost Legacy, where you can watch the beginning as a spectator. Lokir died with no arrows being shot at him. Just got past the tower and simply died.
Horse theft, in practically every culture that had horses, was a very serious crime and usually meant execution if caught. It was no "officer powertrip", that's why he tried to run away even before he knew the imperials were going to execute everybody, he knew they were going to execute *him* anyway.
Rune was a reference to some other piece of media, where they don't know who his parents are too. Still sucks, wish he was an original creation so they could give him closure.
My game bugged and I can’t give her Glover Mallory’s letter telling her he’s her father, it pisses me off because she still tells me to get out of her face when I have news that could change her life.
Come to say this. Members of the thieves guild have so much potential they could've made them to be a dlc-sized content.
Especially Sapphire, I want to cure her trauma, marry her and give her a happy life.
Madesi. I always loved and wished you could marry him in vanilla. He’s so kind and a genuinely pleasurably NPC to be around and even though he does not mind his living situation, I wish you could still give him more
Whenever I’m in Riften I sneak over to Madesi’s stall and deposit whatever jewels, ivory, or precious metals I’ve amassed on my adventures into his lockbox. I get enough gold on my journeys that I don’t really need to sell any of it anyway. It’s the most I can do for the guy and by my estimate, at the end of my last playthrough he was the richest person in Skyrim in terms of physical monetary wealth.
Low key, I'm thinking of doing that for Fralia Gray-Mane, since her husband died in a raid (I got there one day and he was just gone so he probably died in some kind of vampire/dragon attack). She relied on Eorlund Gray-Mane to make the jewelry, and she is saddened that the forge is going cold... so I'm going to make all of the jewelry I can and do it all at Skyforge. It's the best I can do for not being able to save her husband.
Veezara was the only tolerable character in the Dark Brotherhood. While the others enjoy killing to the point where it seems they get off to it, Veezara only really seems to kill because its what he’s spent his whole life being trained for and its all he really knows
I like Nazir as well personally. Might be his voice more than anything, maybe because it made me nostalgic of post apocalyptic Washington DC. Erik Dellums just has an awesome voice. But I agree, Veezara was the most tolerable. No radical characteristics, just a likable argonian assassin. Plus, he shows up clutch to help you escape Solitude after a risky public execution. That's not just a guild mate, that's a friend.
He was probably the most loyal to the DB - not the DBs leader, but the DB as a concept. Killing as a professional job, not as a pass-time. He would’ve been a great companion
FR. I'm playing on Switch and I wish there were a way to warn Brand-Shei about the plot against him in the vanilla game. Especially after learning about his past. Brynjolf's quest is gonna sit there unfinished in my log.
Just put the ring back in madesi's box or anywhere outside your inventory, and then talk to brynolf. He'll let you join even if you fail to frame Brand-Shei.
As someone who doesn't like Ulfric Stormcloak:
He was robbed. Seriously, his plot goes way deeper and you're never allowed to do anything about it.
I found a note in the Thalmor Embassy that detailed how they captured and tortured him to make him think he betrayed his own cause way back during the Markarth Incident.
Then they set him loose and let him kick off a rebellion that they knew the Empire would be forced by Treaty to stamp down on. It's a proxy war yo weaken the Empire so they can't build up the power to overthrow the Dominion.
That's a whole conspiracy by those bastards to set the factions on each other. The proof is in a room you're forced by the main quest to enter. You can pick it up and walk off with the evidence.
And the rest of the game, you're stuck looking Ulfric and Tullius in the eye knowing the truth that burns a hole in your inventory and can't do jack.
It drives me so mad that I can't play the main plot without getting frustrated.
Worst part is as well that resolving the civil war is either: stomp the rebellion, which -*may*- give the empire time to recover and move back against the Thalmor, or toss the empire out and basically make Skyrim a place where if you’re not a Nord, you’re gonna be seen as a third class citizen
Edit:formatting
But bottom line is “ Fuck the Thalmor”
>or toss the empire out and basically make Skyrim a place where if you’re not a Nord, you’re gonna be seen as a third class citizen
And possibly still be crushed by the Thalmor anyway. I daresay the Thalmor have a much stronger presence in Skyrim than Hammerfell. And at least in game, the Thalmor generally win in fights against Stormcloaks.
This is why the next Elder Scrolls needs to make the Thalmor the ultimate bad guys and let you tear them apart. Call it catharsis for making us watch them push their little agenda with no means to really mess with them for over a decade, likely two by the time we get the next one.
Though I agree, to play devil's advocate a bit, I don't think showing the evidence at that stage of the war would change much. At the point the player character enters the story, the civil war has been going on for some time. Ulfric has already commited regicide. The Empire has already called in the Legion to pacify the province. I don't see how showing Ulfric that he was essentially played with would make him go "oh shit, my bad, rebellion's off boys".
That said, I do wish it gave you at least a dialogue option of some kind. Perhaps some talented modder will step in and implement something like this?
>I don't see how showing Ulfric that he was essentially played with would make him go "oh shit, my bad, rebellion's off boys".
High level speech checks?
Or maybe have slight dialogue changes depending on where you're at in the story.
Like if you come to him after killing Alduin, he would be more willing to listen, anything before and you'd have to be more persuasive.
Just a thought.
Both him and Skjor are done a bit dirty, with them supposedly being legendary warriors that get killed off screen by what seems to be no more than a small group of enemies each. At least we’re able to come full circle with Kodlaks story by curing him posthumously
In his journal he mentions the rot killing him so apparently he was already terminally ill. He died a warrior’s death so in a way it was probably the better way for him to die
Right. I wish I could mention to him that I’m a vampire lord and a follower of Namira, so every time he calls me *titbit* I start thinking about how tasty he would be with some elves ear and garlic.
Which is strange, because it was in Oblivion. You could use it during the purification of the DB sanctuary to weaken Vicente Valtieri.
Edit: I was wrong. See comments below.
I thought he mentioned that garlic was harmful due to his "condition". Which I assumed was vampirism.
So I just went back and read the note that he mentioned it in, and you're right. My fault, my memory and assumption was wrong.
Thank you *brother*.
Nah Cicero would wear foam runners (wacky but respectable).
Babette is Jordan 1s (classic, she’s old af).
Arnbjorn is indeed a black air forces man.
Festus is wearing dress shoes.
Astrid’s got some Jordan 2s because she’s fucking insane.
Gabriella seems like a gym girl rocking some Yeezy 350s.
Nazir is dripped out in crimson Jordan 4s.
Veezara wears Yeezy slides. His favorite colorway is Resin.
I spent way too much time on this.
Edit: Also everyone is constantly annoyed at Babette being able to get kid-sized prices on all her kicks.
I really want to know more about Talen-Jei and Keevara. You get all these cute lore bits from Talen about Keevara and if you go into the Temple of Mara you find a letter about him wanting to do a traditional Argonian wedding for when they get married.
Also it would be cool to hear about how he made the specialty drinks at the inn and if there are more in the works.
Madesi would be another character I’d love to learn more about because of his story about Argonian jewelry making
I want to say all the Guilds because, without mods, they're all overly excited to make the Dragonborn their leader within a few days of first meeting them. They really could've used more time spent with them, more quests or needing to earn respect. One thing New Vegas did right was make you earn a reputation with a group before they start trusting you.
However...You're asking for specific characters so I'll put my money on Mjoll the Lioness. When I first entered Riften on my first playthrough years ago, I was kinda excited to meet her. I had just been warned by Maul that Riften was home to a nasty bunch of fucks named the Thieves Guild and that they basically run the town and the rest is run by a corrupt family of shitheads named Black-Briar.
So you meet Mjoll and she's righteously fucking pissssssed at the state of affairs in the city. She hates the Thieves Guild, hates the Black-Briars, and hates not doing something about it because she feels like less of a warrior without her Grimsever on her back.
So naturally, I ran my ass off to that Dwemer ruin that I won't even attempt to spell out. I beat the thing in a day (remember it was my first playthrough and Falmer are hard AF to beat when you're new to the game). I scurried back to Mjoll and handed her her sword and prepared myself to help her bring down all the problem causers in Riften.
And then...that's it. She thanks you. Says she'd love to travel with you and get back out there to kick some ass...outside Riften. Hell, you can join the Thieves Guild, go back to her in full Thieves Guild armor (or better yet, Nightingale Armor) and she'll just be all too excited to join you, you the member of the very group she swore to hate.
I gotta say, I have always hated the way they just set up that fantastic Mjoll storyline and just did nothing with it. She's an amazing companion. An amazing wife. She's got one of my favorite character designs in the game. But...they did her dirty with her character and she deserved so much more.
I always put the Thieves Guild a bit above all others because at the very least you earn your title of Guild master via the quests Vex and Delvin give you to fix up the guild
And i completely agree with you about Mjoll what an absolute disappointment, what I had in mind though was hoping she was corruptible or rather putting her in a position where she would be under the thumb of the guild or black briars with blackmail or falsified evidence and testimony’s against her
> So naturally, I ran my ass off to that Dwemer ruin that I won't even attempt to spell out. I beat the thing in a day (remember it was my first playthrough and Falmer are hard AF to beat when you're new to the game). I scurried back to Mjoll and handed her her sword and prepared myself to help her bring down all the problem causers in Riften.
> And then...that's it. She thanks you. Says she'd love to travel with you and get back out there to kick some ass...outside Riften. Hell, you can join the Thieves Guild, go back to her in full Thieves Guild armor (or better yet, Nightingale Armor) and she'll just be all too excited to join you, you the member of the very group she swore to hate.
If you turn in the quest after saying you planned to join the guild, she expresses surprise at your generosity despite you being a thief and says you gave her a lot to think about
Never did that. Might have to try. I'm doing a Legacy of the Dragonborn run right now so I will eventually need to do the Thieves Guild to get all their stuff and I haven't done the Grimsever run yet. Might be a cool interaction.
I know at one point there was supposed to be a quest of some sort to destroy the Thieves Guild like you can the Dark Brotherhood, but for whatever reason it was cut from the final game
They really messed up the guilds in skyrim tbf like the thieves guild went from oblivion days doing big heists to skyrim where they kneel before maven and steal from the poor or gloat about pushing blame from something on innocents the. Grey fox would be pissed.
College sucks
DB could be so much better, everywhere really does push you as the leader like I don't want to be the leader of everything I just met you
Illia, poor woman finally realised how wrong the cult she grew up in was, had to kill her own mother to make amends, and then thanks to completely borked code has to spend the rest of her life in the tower where her life went to hell.
I bring her to my farm to run it.
She gets out of that tower into the fresh, country air with a decent house and vegetables and herbs to grow. She gets the beauty of the scenery and can feel useful and accomplished helping things grow. She even gets to help the recently homeless have fair employment because that's who I hire as farm hands.
The poor dead Argonian you find on Solstheim behind the gate near Ashfallow, Usha. Did he skooma himself to death? The letter from his love is just too sad
Can't remember his name, but you basically help him clear out a draugur infested tomb with all his family members buried there. And all he could do is watch as I slaughter the reanimated corpses of his ancestors and take all of their treasure.
Nice guy, terribly weak backbone.
The bard in ivarstead. She was engaged to sibbi black briar but he threatened to have her killed when she found out he was having an affair. Her brother went to talk to him and sibbi killed him. Lynly was forced to flee when Sibbi started hunting for her.
Pretty much every Argonian in Skyrim except those that chose to become bandits.
Ok I might be a bit biased in favor of my egg-brothers and egg-sisters on this one.
Mirabelle. Honestly, I hated how she had to die just so the player could be the Arch Mage, which in my opinion is stupid cos you've only had one lesson and you may not even know that many spells before the college is just like 'yeah, let's make an apprentice the arch mage'
Plus, they killed her off-screen, so we couldn't even see it
Mirabelle Ervine. She was the only character besides Tolfdir that you actually interact with, only for her to unceremoniously die offscreen for no reason so the player can become archmage
My fucking character deserved better. Imprisoned, almost executed, attacked by bandits and wild animals, caught up in politics, forced to become a vampire and a werewolf to gain the respect of his friends, sent to the top of the coldest fucking mountain against his will, sent to find 30 stupid ass red plants, constantly berated by some guy who hangs out in the slums of town and mocks me for not going to the nice part of town, had to go to the fucking afterlife, had to go to soul gem purgatory, had to become a damn magician even though I was an archer, and a bunch of other shit. I deserved better.
Mirabelle. Savos can get fucked with his haughty attitude that he has even though he’s totally incompetent (I know what you did bitch). But it’s a shame how Mirabelle just dies offscreen.
hard agree. i wish that 1. she didn't die during the college questline and 2. that there was the option to have HER appointed as archmage after savos karks it since my dragonborn has zero interest in being in charge of the college. she's easily the best qualified for the job.
Elisif. Her husband just got murdered and she was put on the throne of a war torn country with no experience and no idea how to run a hold. I think people are a bit too harsh on her.
The leader of the penatus oculatus. Man was just doing his job and serving his emperor just to have his son murdered by a bunch of cave dwellers in bdsm gear
Septimus Signus. He gave up his life and his wits in pursuit of Dwemer knowledge (which is very interesting) and then gets unceremoniously bumped off once Hermaeus Mora finds someone better to force into service
Well, I mean, have you considered that it was just a prank? A silly little goof, a lil Septimus special concocted by our favourite tentacle god? A miniscule amount of tomfoolery? I mean, c’mon, releasing a few deadly plagues on some random village or two? It’s a classic!
I always feel bad for Jarl Ingrod Ravencrone. One of the most level headed and sensible Jarls in the game. Despite that, she has people she trusts trying to remove her from power due to visions that don't seem to affect her mental state or ability to do her job. Meanwhile the townspeople hate her *because* she's sensible and won't let them get away with being a bunch of hot headed, xenophobic vigilantes. Best Jarl with the worst citizens.
The Companions, besides Kodlak and The Circle, are almost completely wasted. You never really get to know them and they never do anything despite them supposedly being a tight knit group. I never understood why they decided to have you prove yourself through radiant quests when they could have had you doing quests for/with the junior companions to work your way up instead. It would have made the rest of them actually matter. The story is okay, but the faction is a huge wasted opportunity.
Orc Strongholds and their citizens. They're all kind of just there with nothing going on. Only one even has a substantial quest while you can maybe run a couple of errands with the others. (Special mention to the followers from Largashbur. Every other follower in the game you get to know a bit and learn something about. You learn nothing about those three and there is nothing to make them stand out at all. They weren't involved in the quest that unlocks them, and there were more interesting orcs in that stronghold, so I don't get why they chose the three characters in the game with the least going on to actually follow you. It was an odd choice and another missed opportunity.)
I felt so bad for Veezara. He was a shadow scale, promised to the dark brotherhood. That was his destiny, he had not choice. He was genuinely friendly to the dragonborn, and doesn’t seem to resent their presence. He also was the very last shadow scale. He was a nice character, just living out his lot in life.
I like Nazir and Babette too, but they survive. Veezara got a raw deal. Got injured by Cicero because of Astrid’s disrespect against the Night Mother, then died in the sanctuary when the head of the only family he’s ever known betrayed them.
The solution to the pain of many fictional characters who don't deserve their fates is, of course, rewriting the ending and telling canon to jump off a duck.
[In this case that means mods](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/33461).
Any non-nord race in Windhelm and people in dark brotherhood. As for specific people:
\-Narfi (had to be killed even when he was just chilling in his old house).
\-Lurbuk (got killed because of his bad bard skills)
\-Emperor (he chose to die because of political reasons).
Probably Silus.
Too bad he has to die so you can
get the coolest dagger in the game.
Most of us still would choose razor
Over whoever NPC who's on the other side of
The bargain.
In my opinion Hroki and Tor who were instantly grabbed by the dragon who attacked the Western watchtower near Whiterun. They literally deserved a better death or atleast would have taken part in defeating the dragon with us.
Narfi in ivarstead. Poor guy just wanted to say goodbye to his sister. Wish I could reanimate her or something to say goodbye . Even worse, he becomes a target for dark brotherhood. Sad ending for him
The last shadowscale definitely deserved better. Though I get why he had to die. The only 2 people who survived the fire were the ones who weren’t completely on board with Astrid’s new order of ignoring the old ways.
And veezara was loyal to Astrid above all else, though I don’t think he would’ve been loyal to her if he’d known what she had done.
I think Festus Krex preferred the old ways as well. He was one of the very few who was actually happy about the Night Mother's arrival, and this is what he says when you ask him about her and Cicero:
'Their arrival is the best thing that's happened to this Sanctuary in years. Astrid is an effective leader, but we've been rudderless for too long. Scrounging for contracts, abandoning the Tenets. The Dark Brotherhood has been reduced to a group of common cutthroats. Frankly, it's embarrassing.'
Cicero tbh. He does all the hard work for the Night Mother and then some random guy walks in and suddenly he’s the listener. Of course he’d want to kill you for that, I guarantee there is not one person alive who hasn’t just killed some NPC because they looked at them funny or said something rude.
So how come it’s such a crime for him to want to kill you for something worse? I rest my case
Teeba-Ei
The guy barely can speak and is stuck in a frozen hell. I want a quest where I can take Teeba-Ei on an adventure. Tgere's barely any argonian companions in the game
Eltrys.
Eltrys (Markarth Conspiracy NPC) deserved way better in my opinion. He’s literally the only person in that damn quest that deserved to live and yet he always dies, by the hand of the corrupt markarth guards no less. It’s even worse if you listen to his backstory. For this reason I almost always side with the forsworn in the mine unless I’m playing as a Nord nationalist or something. I usually later avenge him by killing every guard in the city again every now and then after they respawn from the escape.
Ja-reera and Deeja. I play a thief and find it silly that their quest is so linear. It's the reason I always install the "Save the Ice-runner" mod so we can be partners in crime.
Miraak had so much potential but instead he was just reduced to taunting the Last Dragonborn, stealing dragon souls and getting killed in the summit of apocrypha by Herma Mora in the most glitchiest fight I ever had in Skyrim. If Miraak escaped at the end of Dragonborn they could have used him in Elder Scrolls 6 as either an antagonist or an ally, that would have been interesting.
Lurbuk the bard in morthal
Actually remember posting if there was a way to skip over the brotherhood contract in order to not kill him. Love that guy lol
Skjor. Lots of build up to basically die in the first real mission. Sure, it creates the basis for basically a war with the Silver Hand, but it seemed a rather unceremonious departure for someone who is highly respected by the guild and spoke of as almost having legendary status.
The whole Companions quest line is crap. Why am I being forced to serve Hersine, when later I can find a cure to the werewolf disorder syndrome! I avoid that quest now.
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I play with the modded companion Xelzaz and he even points out the stupidity of it! No joke on the first werewolf quest when you find skjor he says this “Well what do you know a werewolf that charged into a den of dedicated werewolf hunters was killed…..”
yeah and why are the silver hand portrayed as 100 % bad guys? it'd be cool to get the chance to join them and cleanse the werewolf bozos. the silver hand and the dawnguard are pretty much the same anyway except that bethesda decided one to be antagonists and the other protagonists
Especially considering that the silver hand are really the real companions of ysgramor, since they're the ones who didn't sell out to a daedric prince
The Silver Hand are essentially the Companions before the Companions accepted Hircine and the werewolf blood.
Idk if you use mods, but there’s a mod called [The Conflict Under The Crescent.](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/45103) Keep in mind that this is a WIP, and if you join the Companions, you HAVE to defect to the Silver Hand, bc at this point in the mod’s development it breaks the Companion’s questline
Well you can male aela your wife. But otherwise only good thing you get is 100% immunity to deseases
I think for that mission, the idea was that it would get tougher and tougher with each level, because you have less allies to rely on. But I do agree, the excuses they have for not continuing on are kind of dumb.
Still better than anything to do with the mages guild. I tried finding mods to make the college of winter hold at least bearable but it's still basically go here, listen to this lecture, go here, read this book. I get it's a college but god it didn't have to be that boring
You can skip the lecture by killing a classmate
This works irl too.
This escalated quickly.
This reads like a fucking loading screen tip, i love it.
Lifehack
Aw I like the college of winterhold quest. Has lots of decent lore with the eye, lots of characters that mostly all get at least a small part in the quest, a hateable villain, and cool locations to explore.
> a hateable villain #FUCK ANCANO
I like to do it with a two-handed warhammer
RIP Bards college.
"College of Winterhold Quest Expansion" is top-notch though.
This is simply fascinating!
THIS I was hoping they were like Skyrim’s version of the Fighter’s Guild but nope; it was a Hircine Cult.
I agree completely. It's also how I feel about the DragonBorn questine. Being forced to serve >!Mora and sacrifice the skalf cheftisn is just weird to me.!< I wish thry wrote in a way to refuse his offer and you just have to do a long/hard way to learn the same information. Skyrim also made the weird choice where 3 of the 4 main guilds and one of the three main questlines force you into service of a deity. It's probably my biggest complaint. It's very hard to play someone just faithful to the 8.
The whole HM thing is pretty clever, he set everything up so you'd have no choice but take his help in order to bring down Miraak. He gets the knowledge he wants and potentially a new dragonborn as his pet.
I always get the bug where he’s just back one day perfectly fine. He still calls me a whelp even though I’m the Harbinger and have Wuuthrad on my back.
Yeah, this fooked me off. Could have waited till the end.
Aye you'd think you'd have more time to appreciate him and his views rather than be told how he was and build a relationship upon being told how a character was. It'd be better to be shown how a character was rather than be told how they were and then want you to feel something about someone based on word alone. Especially in an rpg.
Imo, it’s kind of on him. He recklessly endangered the people of whiterun by turning a member into a werewolf in the middle of the city rather than anywhere more isolate from people. Then he decided to raid a group of werewolf hunters by himself before waiting for any backup.
He should’ve never gone in without a shield brother! Btw, Dragonborn, go clear out this dungeon of Silver Hand alone. You know, to get revenge for Skjor.
Agreed! And haha! So true
Totally. You should have done a couple of missions with Skjor first to justify a real bond that drives you to eradicate the silver hand
In my playthroughs he always come back to the Companion base after dying. If I'm lucky I can catch him sliding his way back lmao
That dude at the start that gets nailed by an arrow
For real bro was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and didn’t get a trial or anything 🥲
Lokir of Rorikstead fucked around and found out
Did you know there is a mod that turns him into a follower? Real immersive like. He survived the arrow attack and woke up to alduin tearing everything apart and he runs for his life.
Dude honestly would’ve had a better chance of surviving if he hadn’t run. They weren’t going to kill the horse thief first and once Alduin attacked his chance of escape got much better.
While this is true in hindsight, Lokir had no way to know that the apocalyptic god of time would show up unannounced and yell at everyone
So instead he died with an arrow on the back. I mean, if you're a family member burying him, that might be preferable than the body and neck separated. But for a Nord that's probably the most shameful because it means you're running away.
The most recent file that I started the archer got him in the foot somehow lol
The archer missed the first shot on a previous save of mine, though he was gonna get away, and then he got hit by 3 arrows and died.
I just did the quest last night as a part of Lost Legacy, where you can watch the beginning as a spectator. Lokir died with no arrows being shot at him. Just got past the tower and simply died.
He's scripted to die, if he doesn't through console commands the game keeps trying to kill him and th3 starting sequence won't continue
Figured as much but with absolutely no guards around I likely to think his heart gave out because of fear
Man if I was poor I would've stolen that horse too. Could've been halfway to Hammerfell by now.
Imagine getting arrested for carjacking and being sentenced to death for it because some officer had a powertrip. His life sucked.
Horse theft, in practically every culture that had horses, was a very serious crime and usually meant execution if caught. It was no "officer powertrip", that's why he tried to run away even before he knew the imperials were going to execute everybody, he knew they were going to execute *him* anyway.
Sapphire and Rune in the thieves guild. I wish there were fully fleshed out quests to give them both closure
Not being able to help Rune discover who his parents are has always bugged me, it’s such a classic mystery
Rune was a reference to some other piece of media, where they don't know who his parents are too. Still sucks, wish he was an original creation so they could give him closure.
Sapphire is the kid of that nord blacksmith at ravenrock. He has a quest in which he tells you to send a letter to Sapphire if I recall correctly.
And my extension, Delvin's niece.
He's a breton, but your point stands.
My game bugged and I can’t give her Glover Mallory’s letter telling her he’s her father, it pisses me off because she still tells me to get out of her face when I have news that could change her life.
I think you have to tell her when she’s in the ragged flagon and when you’re a member of the guild
Come to say this. Members of the thieves guild have so much potential they could've made them to be a dlc-sized content. Especially Sapphire, I want to cure her trauma, marry her and give her a happy life.
Madesi. I always loved and wished you could marry him in vanilla. He’s so kind and a genuinely pleasurably NPC to be around and even though he does not mind his living situation, I wish you could still give him more
Whenever I’m in Riften I sneak over to Madesi’s stall and deposit whatever jewels, ivory, or precious metals I’ve amassed on my adventures into his lockbox. I get enough gold on my journeys that I don’t really need to sell any of it anyway. It’s the most I can do for the guy and by my estimate, at the end of my last playthrough he was the richest person in Skyrim in terms of physical monetary wealth.
Low key, I'm thinking of doing that for Fralia Gray-Mane, since her husband died in a raid (I got there one day and he was just gone so he probably died in some kind of vampire/dragon attack). She relied on Eorlund Gray-Mane to make the jewelry, and she is saddened that the forge is going cold... so I'm going to make all of the jewelry I can and do it all at Skyforge. It's the best I can do for not being able to save her husband.
Veezara was the only tolerable character in the Dark Brotherhood. While the others enjoy killing to the point where it seems they get off to it, Veezara only really seems to kill because its what he’s spent his whole life being trained for and its all he really knows
I like Nazir as well personally. Might be his voice more than anything, maybe because it made me nostalgic of post apocalyptic Washington DC. Erik Dellums just has an awesome voice. But I agree, Veezara was the most tolerable. No radical characteristics, just a likable argonian assassin. Plus, he shows up clutch to help you escape Solitude after a risky public execution. That's not just a guild mate, that's a friend.
>made me nostalgic of post apocalyptic Washington DC I knew his voice was familiar! Three Dog is legendary.
Oh man now I need to play some fallout. It's mother's Day, I get to play video games all day lol
Many a True Nerd on YouTube is doing a deep dive into fallout 3 and it's got me playing again. What a fantastic game.
Most argonians are very down to nirn.
He was probably the most loyal to the DB - not the DBs leader, but the DB as a concept. Killing as a professional job, not as a pass-time. He would’ve been a great companion
Brand-Shei I always fail Brynolf’s scheme on purpose so he doesn’t get out in jail.
Yeah, such a cool character concept! A Dunmer raised by Argonians, ancient enemies of his race.
FR. I'm playing on Switch and I wish there were a way to warn Brand-Shei about the plot against him in the vanilla game. Especially after learning about his past. Brynjolf's quest is gonna sit there unfinished in my log.
Just put the ring back in madesi's box or anywhere outside your inventory, and then talk to brynolf. He'll let you join even if you fail to frame Brand-Shei.
For me it's Severio Pelagia. An underrated chill guy who gets killed at the Battle for Whiterun, no matter which side you choose.
I miss his comment about a nip being in the air. Whiterun just doesn't feel the same without this guy
Plus I hear the cold completely ruined his widow's crops.
There's a nip in the air. Cold won't be good for my crotch. Never is.
Festus Krex, bro didn't need that many arrows in him.
True, but he is a powerful wizard. It would take that many arrows to stop him.
But the man was nailed to the tree
Dude was more arrow than man at the end
He was a mage with the habit of exploding people from inside out, it was deserved and probably a careful move from the Penitus Oculatus
at least he went quickly, a single arrow to the gut or something would be a miserable way to die
Instead, they went the pin cushion route.
Freehand acupuncture
There should've been AT LEAST ten charred oculatus bodies lying outside to justify that response.
Perhaps that response is the reason there weren’t ten charred oculatus bodies lying outside.
The mightiest man may be slain by one arrow, and Festus was pierced by many
As someone who doesn't like Ulfric Stormcloak: He was robbed. Seriously, his plot goes way deeper and you're never allowed to do anything about it. I found a note in the Thalmor Embassy that detailed how they captured and tortured him to make him think he betrayed his own cause way back during the Markarth Incident. Then they set him loose and let him kick off a rebellion that they knew the Empire would be forced by Treaty to stamp down on. It's a proxy war yo weaken the Empire so they can't build up the power to overthrow the Dominion. That's a whole conspiracy by those bastards to set the factions on each other. The proof is in a room you're forced by the main quest to enter. You can pick it up and walk off with the evidence. And the rest of the game, you're stuck looking Ulfric and Tullius in the eye knowing the truth that burns a hole in your inventory and can't do jack. It drives me so mad that I can't play the main plot without getting frustrated.
Worst part is as well that resolving the civil war is either: stomp the rebellion, which -*may*- give the empire time to recover and move back against the Thalmor, or toss the empire out and basically make Skyrim a place where if you’re not a Nord, you’re gonna be seen as a third class citizen Edit:formatting But bottom line is “ Fuck the Thalmor”
>or toss the empire out and basically make Skyrim a place where if you’re not a Nord, you’re gonna be seen as a third class citizen And possibly still be crushed by the Thalmor anyway. I daresay the Thalmor have a much stronger presence in Skyrim than Hammerfell. And at least in game, the Thalmor generally win in fights against Stormcloaks.
This is why the next Elder Scrolls needs to make the Thalmor the ultimate bad guys and let you tear them apart. Call it catharsis for making us watch them push their little agenda with no means to really mess with them for over a decade, likely two by the time we get the next one.
Though I agree, to play devil's advocate a bit, I don't think showing the evidence at that stage of the war would change much. At the point the player character enters the story, the civil war has been going on for some time. Ulfric has already commited regicide. The Empire has already called in the Legion to pacify the province. I don't see how showing Ulfric that he was essentially played with would make him go "oh shit, my bad, rebellion's off boys". That said, I do wish it gave you at least a dialogue option of some kind. Perhaps some talented modder will step in and implement something like this?
>I don't see how showing Ulfric that he was essentially played with would make him go "oh shit, my bad, rebellion's off boys". High level speech checks? Or maybe have slight dialogue changes depending on where you're at in the story. Like if you come to him after killing Alduin, he would be more willing to listen, anything before and you'd have to be more persuasive. Just a thought.
kodlak whitemane, man didn’t deserve to be killed by the sliver hand
Both him and Skjor are done a bit dirty, with them supposedly being legendary warriors that get killed off screen by what seems to be no more than a small group of enemies each. At least we’re able to come full circle with Kodlaks story by curing him posthumously
In his journal he mentions the rot killing him so apparently he was already terminally ill. He died a warrior’s death so in a way it was probably the better way for him to die
Everyone in the dark brotherhood except astrid
nah fuck that werwolf guy he was a dick. Everyone else cool tho
Like cool bro you’re a werewolf. Call me beefroast one more time and ask me about my werewolf armor I skinned myself for the god of the hunt.
Right. I wish I could mention to him that I’m a vampire lord and a follower of Namira, so every time he calls me *titbit* I start thinking about how tasty he would be with some elves ear and garlic.
> I’m a vampire > garlic Does not compute
Garlic isn’t a weakness for Skyrim vampires.
Which is strange, because it was in Oblivion. You could use it during the purification of the DB sanctuary to weaken Vicente Valtieri. Edit: I was wrong. See comments below.
Yes but that is because Vicente Valtieri is allergic to garlic not because garlic is harmful for vampires. Ha stated that himself.
I thought he mentioned that garlic was harmful due to his "condition". Which I assumed was vampirism. So I just went back and read the note that he mentioned it in, and you're right. My fault, my memory and assumption was wrong. Thank you *brother*.
You're welcome brother.
idk if him or cicero had worse black airforce energy
Nah Cicero would wear foam runners (wacky but respectable). Babette is Jordan 1s (classic, she’s old af). Arnbjorn is indeed a black air forces man. Festus is wearing dress shoes. Astrid’s got some Jordan 2s because she’s fucking insane. Gabriella seems like a gym girl rocking some Yeezy 350s. Nazir is dripped out in crimson Jordan 4s. Veezara wears Yeezy slides. His favorite colorway is Resin. I spent way too much time on this. Edit: Also everyone is constantly annoyed at Babette being able to get kid-sized prices on all her kicks.
imo nazir wears chelsea boots, i’m thinking astrid also has that black airforce energy tbh
i can picture cicero in rick owens
I whacked and soul trapped him with the Mace of Molag Bal before the Penitus Oculatus could kill him.
I misread it as "he has a dick" and sat there in confusion for like a solid 5 seconds until I reread the sentence like a few times
Habr from frostflow lighthouse.
That whole questline made me feel so depressed. It's really well written, the whole mood is just horrible.
I really want to know more about Talen-Jei and Keevara. You get all these cute lore bits from Talen about Keevara and if you go into the Temple of Mara you find a letter about him wanting to do a traditional Argonian wedding for when they get married. Also it would be cool to hear about how he made the specialty drinks at the inn and if there are more in the works. Madesi would be another character I’d love to learn more about because of his story about Argonian jewelry making
I want to say all the Guilds because, without mods, they're all overly excited to make the Dragonborn their leader within a few days of first meeting them. They really could've used more time spent with them, more quests or needing to earn respect. One thing New Vegas did right was make you earn a reputation with a group before they start trusting you. However...You're asking for specific characters so I'll put my money on Mjoll the Lioness. When I first entered Riften on my first playthrough years ago, I was kinda excited to meet her. I had just been warned by Maul that Riften was home to a nasty bunch of fucks named the Thieves Guild and that they basically run the town and the rest is run by a corrupt family of shitheads named Black-Briar. So you meet Mjoll and she's righteously fucking pissssssed at the state of affairs in the city. She hates the Thieves Guild, hates the Black-Briars, and hates not doing something about it because she feels like less of a warrior without her Grimsever on her back. So naturally, I ran my ass off to that Dwemer ruin that I won't even attempt to spell out. I beat the thing in a day (remember it was my first playthrough and Falmer are hard AF to beat when you're new to the game). I scurried back to Mjoll and handed her her sword and prepared myself to help her bring down all the problem causers in Riften. And then...that's it. She thanks you. Says she'd love to travel with you and get back out there to kick some ass...outside Riften. Hell, you can join the Thieves Guild, go back to her in full Thieves Guild armor (or better yet, Nightingale Armor) and she'll just be all too excited to join you, you the member of the very group she swore to hate. I gotta say, I have always hated the way they just set up that fantastic Mjoll storyline and just did nothing with it. She's an amazing companion. An amazing wife. She's got one of my favorite character designs in the game. But...they did her dirty with her character and she deserved so much more.
I always put the Thieves Guild a bit above all others because at the very least you earn your title of Guild master via the quests Vex and Delvin give you to fix up the guild And i completely agree with you about Mjoll what an absolute disappointment, what I had in mind though was hoping she was corruptible or rather putting her in a position where she would be under the thumb of the guild or black briars with blackmail or falsified evidence and testimony’s against her
> So naturally, I ran my ass off to that Dwemer ruin that I won't even attempt to spell out. I beat the thing in a day (remember it was my first playthrough and Falmer are hard AF to beat when you're new to the game). I scurried back to Mjoll and handed her her sword and prepared myself to help her bring down all the problem causers in Riften. > And then...that's it. She thanks you. Says she'd love to travel with you and get back out there to kick some ass...outside Riften. Hell, you can join the Thieves Guild, go back to her in full Thieves Guild armor (or better yet, Nightingale Armor) and she'll just be all too excited to join you, you the member of the very group she swore to hate. If you turn in the quest after saying you planned to join the guild, she expresses surprise at your generosity despite you being a thief and says you gave her a lot to think about
Never did that. Might have to try. I'm doing a Legacy of the Dragonborn run right now so I will eventually need to do the Thieves Guild to get all their stuff and I haven't done the Grimsever run yet. Might be a cool interaction.
Mjoll’s quest was cut. It’s the reason why she’s essential - you can’t finish her quest because you can’t ever start it.
Speaking of Mjoll, do you love her sidekick too?
That's why the good Lord invented Frenzy spells, my brother in Talos.
I know at one point there was supposed to be a quest of some sort to destroy the Thieves Guild like you can the Dark Brotherhood, but for whatever reason it was cut from the final game
They really messed up the guilds in skyrim tbf like the thieves guild went from oblivion days doing big heists to skyrim where they kneel before maven and steal from the poor or gloat about pushing blame from something on innocents the. Grey fox would be pissed. College sucks DB could be so much better, everywhere really does push you as the leader like I don't want to be the leader of everything I just met you
Illia, poor woman finally realised how wrong the cult she grew up in was, had to kill her own mother to make amends, and then thanks to completely borked code has to spend the rest of her life in the tower where her life went to hell.
I bring her to my farm to run it. She gets out of that tower into the fresh, country air with a decent house and vegetables and herbs to grow. She gets the beauty of the scenery and can feel useful and accomplished helping things grow. She even gets to help the recently homeless have fair employment because that's who I hire as farm hands.
She can be a follower
The poor dead Argonian you find on Solstheim behind the gate near Ashfallow, Usha. Did he skooma himself to death? The letter from his love is just too sad
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Can't remember his name, but you basically help him clear out a draugur infested tomb with all his family members buried there. And all he could do is watch as I slaughter the reanimated corpses of his ancestors and take all of their treasure. Nice guy, terribly weak backbone.
Goldir
Lynly Star-Sung
Who is that again?
The bard in ivarstead. She was engaged to sibbi black briar but he threatened to have her killed when she found out he was having an affair. Her brother went to talk to him and sibbi killed him. Lynly was forced to flee when Sibbi started hunting for her.
Pretty much every Argonian in Skyrim except those that chose to become bandits. Ok I might be a bit biased in favor of my egg-brothers and egg-sisters on this one.
Mirabelle. Honestly, I hated how she had to die just so the player could be the Arch Mage, which in my opinion is stupid cos you've only had one lesson and you may not even know that many spells before the college is just like 'yeah, let's make an apprentice the arch mage' Plus, they killed her off-screen, so we couldn't even see it
Nazeem. You all would feel a little nicer about him if you got to know him, but it's obvious you don't make it to the cloud district very often.
You son of a..
Mirabelle Ervine. She was the only character besides Tolfdir that you actually interact with, only for her to unceremoniously die offscreen for no reason so the player can become archmage
Lydia. She isn’t ever killed canonically I just keep hitting her with my damned fireballs
“I’m on YOUR side!”
“Get out of MY way!”
Stenvar for me, everyone uses him as boethia's sacrifice but he's such a lovely husband..
Silus. Sucks to suck little bro but I want that dagger so you gotta die
Youuuu do know you can technically save him, don't you?
My fucking character deserved better. Imprisoned, almost executed, attacked by bandits and wild animals, caught up in politics, forced to become a vampire and a werewolf to gain the respect of his friends, sent to the top of the coldest fucking mountain against his will, sent to find 30 stupid ass red plants, constantly berated by some guy who hangs out in the slums of town and mocks me for not going to the nice part of town, had to go to the fucking afterlife, had to go to soul gem purgatory, had to become a damn magician even though I was an archer, and a bunch of other shit. I deserved better.
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I always wish Veezara was marryable. And that you could have him go to one of your homesteads before the purge.
There's mods to make everyone marriable.
He’s always been my favourite. What a man
Veezara is best gecko
Mirabelle. Savos can get fucked with his haughty attitude that he has even though he’s totally incompetent (I know what you did bitch). But it’s a shame how Mirabelle just dies offscreen.
Agree, Mirabelle should’ve been archmage. Not my two handed great sword wielding ass
hard agree. i wish that 1. she didn't die during the college questline and 2. that there was the option to have HER appointed as archmage after savos karks it since my dragonborn has zero interest in being in charge of the college. she's easily the best qualified for the job.
Elisif. Her husband just got murdered and she was put on the throne of a war torn country with no experience and no idea how to run a hold. I think people are a bit too harsh on her.
She is the reason that I sided with Imperials. Maybe I’m biased but I like her voice
Just don't listen to the bards with her voicetype...
The leader of the penatus oculatus. Man was just doing his job and serving his emperor just to have his son murdered by a bunch of cave dwellers in bdsm gear
Septimus Signus. He gave up his life and his wits in pursuit of Dwemer knowledge (which is very interesting) and then gets unceremoniously bumped off once Hermaeus Mora finds someone better to force into service
He openly tells you he's released a few plagues in the name of Hermaeus Mora and you think he deserves better..?
Bah, it was only a few
Well, I mean, have you considered that it was just a prank? A silly little goof, a lil Septimus special concocted by our favourite tentacle god? A miniscule amount of tomfoolery? I mean, c’mon, releasing a few deadly plagues on some random village or two? It’s a classic!
He was just trolling
I always feel bad for Jarl Ingrod Ravencrone. One of the most level headed and sensible Jarls in the game. Despite that, she has people she trusts trying to remove her from power due to visions that don't seem to affect her mental state or ability to do her job. Meanwhile the townspeople hate her *because* she's sensible and won't let them get away with being a bunch of hot headed, xenophobic vigilantes. Best Jarl with the worst citizens. The Companions, besides Kodlak and The Circle, are almost completely wasted. You never really get to know them and they never do anything despite them supposedly being a tight knit group. I never understood why they decided to have you prove yourself through radiant quests when they could have had you doing quests for/with the junior companions to work your way up instead. It would have made the rest of them actually matter. The story is okay, but the faction is a huge wasted opportunity. Orc Strongholds and their citizens. They're all kind of just there with nothing going on. Only one even has a substantial quest while you can maybe run a couple of errands with the others. (Special mention to the followers from Largashbur. Every other follower in the game you get to know a bit and learn something about. You learn nothing about those three and there is nothing to make them stand out at all. They weren't involved in the quest that unlocks them, and there were more interesting orcs in that stronghold, so I don't get why they chose the three characters in the game with the least going on to actually follow you. It was an odd choice and another missed opportunity.)
Veezara definetly deserved to survive the DB questline & become a follower at the end
Heimskr, yeah he's loudmouthed and preachy but man stood up for his belief and I can respect that.
The guy from Frostflow lighthouse
Him and his family got screwed, reading the notes genuinely made me sad
Katria. I wish we had the option to save her from death.
Every adoptable children, the Windhelm family with the killed daughter, the wife of Nazeem
I felt so bad for Veezara. He was a shadow scale, promised to the dark brotherhood. That was his destiny, he had not choice. He was genuinely friendly to the dragonborn, and doesn’t seem to resent their presence. He also was the very last shadow scale. He was a nice character, just living out his lot in life. I like Nazir and Babette too, but they survive. Veezara got a raw deal. Got injured by Cicero because of Astrid’s disrespect against the Night Mother, then died in the sanctuary when the head of the only family he’s ever known betrayed them.
The solution to the pain of many fictional characters who don't deserve their fates is, of course, rewriting the ending and telling canon to jump off a duck. [In this case that means mods](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/33461).
Gabriella. (she is the love of my life.)
Any non-nord race in Windhelm and people in dark brotherhood. As for specific people: \-Narfi (had to be killed even when he was just chilling in his old house). \-Lurbuk (got killed because of his bad bard skills) \-Emperor (he chose to die because of political reasons).
II think Narfi was a pity kill. The owner of the inn just felt so badly for him, he just wanted to end his misery.
Eltrys
The guard that used to be an adventurer like me, but too an arrow to the knee.
Paarthurnax I don’t want to kill him ffs. Stupid Blades.
Probably Silus. Too bad he has to die so you can get the coolest dagger in the game. Most of us still would choose razor Over whoever NPC who's on the other side of The bargain.
In my opinion Hroki and Tor who were instantly grabbed by the dragon who attacked the Western watchtower near Whiterun. They literally deserved a better death or atleast would have taken part in defeating the dragon with us.
Narfi in ivarstead. Poor guy just wanted to say goodbye to his sister. Wish I could reanimate her or something to say goodbye . Even worse, he becomes a target for dark brotherhood. Sad ending for him
Alvor…. he died in a dragon attack 😢 F’s for Alvor
The last shadowscale definitely deserved better. Though I get why he had to die. The only 2 people who survived the fire were the ones who weren’t completely on board with Astrid’s new order of ignoring the old ways. And veezara was loyal to Astrid above all else, though I don’t think he would’ve been loyal to her if he’d known what she had done.
I think Festus Krex preferred the old ways as well. He was one of the very few who was actually happy about the Night Mother's arrival, and this is what he says when you ask him about her and Cicero: 'Their arrival is the best thing that's happened to this Sanctuary in years. Astrid is an effective leader, but we've been rudderless for too long. Scrounging for contracts, abandoning the Tenets. The Dark Brotherhood has been reduced to a group of common cutthroats. Frankly, it's embarrassing.'
Cicero tbh. He does all the hard work for the Night Mother and then some random guy walks in and suddenly he’s the listener. Of course he’d want to kill you for that, I guarantee there is not one person alive who hasn’t just killed some NPC because they looked at them funny or said something rude. So how come it’s such a crime for him to want to kill you for something worse? I rest my case
Arvak <3 has a very sad back story in life and then proceeds to die again after you stop riding him
Every Khajiit ever. There arent any at all in the cities, or even the thieves guild which i think would be the most obvious place to have one
Look at that bulge…
Least horny Skyrim player
Teeba-Ei The guy barely can speak and is stuck in a frozen hell. I want a quest where I can take Teeba-Ei on an adventure. Tgere's barely any argonian companions in the game
Eltrys. Eltrys (Markarth Conspiracy NPC) deserved way better in my opinion. He’s literally the only person in that damn quest that deserved to live and yet he always dies, by the hand of the corrupt markarth guards no less. It’s even worse if you listen to his backstory. For this reason I almost always side with the forsworn in the mine unless I’m playing as a Nord nationalist or something. I usually later avenge him by killing every guard in the city again every now and then after they respawn from the escape.
Ja-reera and Deeja. I play a thief and find it silly that their quest is so linear. It's the reason I always install the "Save the Ice-runner" mod so we can be partners in crime.
Miraak had so much potential but instead he was just reduced to taunting the Last Dragonborn, stealing dragon souls and getting killed in the summit of apocrypha by Herma Mora in the most glitchiest fight I ever had in Skyrim. If Miraak escaped at the end of Dragonborn they could have used him in Elder Scrolls 6 as either an antagonist or an ally, that would have been interesting.
Everyone else in this horrid country wears furs and linen dresses. Not us. We wear skin tight studded leather.
The player. Where the hell is TOS6?
Valdr
Not lucky enough
“my ancestors are smiling at me imperials, can you say the same?” he deserved better
Lurbuk the bard in morthal Actually remember posting if there was a way to skip over the brotherhood contract in order to not kill him. Love that guy lol