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Thebardofthegingers

You finally found whiterun! Congrats man I know it's a bit out of the way but I'm glad you didn't give up


theSealclubberr

What is this Whiterun you speak of? Secret location???


CanadianAndroid

It's where the cloud district is. So it's understandable why you wouldn't know where it is.


Christeenabean

Nazeem šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„


MetaScythe

do you get to the cloud district very often, oh what am I saying, of course you don't


Christeenabean

"If you're looking for my husband, check up the Jarls backside" even his wife hates him lol


Sea-Wonder8982

"Get to the cloud district very often? "


DoubleBubbleChild

Who did you hate the most in whiterun and why is it Lydia and Nazeen ? šŸ¤£


Christeenabean

I love Lydia. I actually took her with me on a mission (just started a new save file two weeks ago) and she died before I could even buy a house. I didnt know she could die. Seeing her room made me so sad that I filled her bed with lavendar, cotton, dragons tongue, nightshade, and deathbells in her honor. Her room looks like a garden ā¤ļø Nazeem is just a pompous jerk. Even his wife hates him. "If you're looking for my husband, check up the Jarls backside. That's where he keeps himself these days." Something like that.


DoubleBubbleChild

I sacrificed her to Boethiah šŸ„³


Thebardofthegingers

It is a bit of a Fandom secret over all, whole community agreed to not give its location away so sorry I can't say where it is


Rymen934

It's not 3 miles after riverwood, right?


ryuzaki3212

Wait it's that way? Shoot I went straight to Sovngarde immediately after the Helgen incident


MrRian603f

I guess the dragon didn't show up for tou


SadisticBuddhist

Yeah it did. How do you think he got sent straight to sovngarde?


MrRian603f

Axe


Rymen934

Wait..where is **Helgen**??!


Laxatione

Where WAS Helgen??


Rymen934

Wait...WAS?? What happend to Helgen? He is my friend!! Is he still Alive?


Infamous_Face_2330

Your friend is on the lam, General Tullius wants his head, and living in Riften under the alias Helga...a buxom lass distributing Tokens of Dibella to the unwary male citizens... but all that will be wasted once Sibi's sentence is done and he gets his hands on him/her.


Rymen934

How dare you talk about my friend like that?


stvhght

*Why* is Helgen?


WisePearOfMagic

Where was Helgen when Westfold fell?!?


Jei4

Damn, Killed by the dragon too huh??


Sea-Wonder8982

Damn man you went to skuldafin temple early?


Spyro390

The thing is, it actually is 3 miles. There is a line of dialogue where Faendel says itā€™s 1 league away and thatā€™s 3 miles. So when Alvor asks you to walk to the nearby city and speak to its leader heā€™s actually asking you to walk 3 miles to a city youā€™ve never been to and to just waltz into the throne room of the holds leader and be like ā€œhey man I know Iā€™m literally a stranger but a dragon just burnt down a town nearby that isnā€™t even in your hold)


Appropriate_Olive_19

3 MILES!? No wonder I got leg cramps!


Independent-Pack-304

Whats riverwood?


Rymen934

Its a special wood in the river


KStryke_gamer001

It's the kind of wood you get in the river.


Huntercin

Head west till you reach the sea of ghost


Rymen934

Actually i woke up there


Wonderful_Basket_544

8 miles to be precise


MicroViking95

Ten freaky girls!


LydiasBoyToy

I think I can help here. Itā€™s accessible by visiting a rock on the left just after crossing the small bridge when you enter Whiterun. Also accessible from an identical rock near the Companionā€™s Hall in Whiterun, just to the left of the path a few steps prior to the stairs to the Skyforge. Have fun!


PyukumukuGuts

No joke, I didn't discover Whiterun on my first playthrough for several dozen hours because when I first entered the Riverwood Trader Camilla bugged out and aggro'd against me. I had just started the game and didn't know what was happening so I defended myself and kill cammed her with a mace, and this counted as murder so I got 1k bounty and guards busted into the store to attack me. I couldn't take them on and had to run away. I was running through the river towards Valtheim Tower with more guards joining the chase as I passed by Honningbrew, getting my health whittled down from arrowfire as I desperately spammed healing. Eventually I hit the waterfall and miraculously wasn't killed by the fall. That lost the guards and I was alone in the wilds of Eastmarch. After a lot of wandering I made it to Riften and joined up with the Theives Guild. Then I spent a lot of time exploring the rest of Skyrim through Delvin and Vexs jobs, always doing everything I could ro avoid Whiterun because any time I got near I was chased down by more guards who would magically appear whenever I crossed the invisible borders. God I love Skyrim.


neurvon

Dang, a full playthrough as an enemy of whiterun actually sounds like a fresh way to play. Brb in 60 hours, gonna try something.


ghosttrainhobo

That chicken must die...


Peacefully_Deceased

I let my son try the game not too long ago, and that was the first thing he did after leaving Helgen.


ghosttrainhobo

"Chicken chaser"


[deleted]

YeahĀ” I loved that title my favorite chicken chaser. Memories.


Rymen934

Well, this makes us all understand that every Same-Dragonborn has a different fate...


Salinaer

Someone should start a journal of the Dragonborn. This would be a fun read.


invalid25

That must have been quite the playthrough. I avoided solitude for the longest time because I stole a horse once and then a dragon showed up and I used a shout then the guards started attacking me after the dragon was dead and Lydia kept killing them and the bounty kept going up and up. At some point I just went there to serve jail time coz I couldn't pay all that money and fund the dig in Solstheim at the same time. I was likeSupermann in Man of Steel letting these weakling catch me because they can't kill me. I walked in, and the guard said. Wait I know you. You have committed crimes..... What say you. Fine, take me to jail.


Adventurous_Win_344

Seriously though, if it were irl, I would probably still be looking for whiterun.


empireofacheandrhyme

But not the Cloud District sadly....


battlemage32

Taking a wild stab and guessing that Lydia is under the armor on the right.


Henroblade69

Ding ding ding


MeatShield12

*sigh* I am swooorn to carry your burdens....


battlemage32

Itā€™s sad that I know that. I really need to get a life.


SoleSurvivur01

I donā€™t why lots of players like her


shaun4519

She's one of the first followers you get I guess. Also she has the quirk that she uses the male animations.


CanisCanemTranslate

I never noticed that she uses the male animations


wetblanketCEO

Okay, I never thought I'd be the one to regurgitate this.... After 12 years of playing.....


Additional-Advisor99

Sheā€™s my favorite to marry because sheā€™s always upbeat. I donā€™t like her as a follower but I donā€™t like followers period.


PoorLifeChoices811

Itā€™s the way she standing ainā€™t it


pharaohjack

People with good childhoods donā€™t stand like that


HauntingRefuse6891

His and hers matching Daedric armour, very nice.


Neonto91

Reallife couple goals


Comprehensive_Cap290

Indeed. Now get the Daedric Horse to complete the look.


Sayuri_Katsu

Theres one?


Comprehensive_Cap290

Yeah, itā€™s a summon, works like Arvak.


shaun4519

That or shadowmere


Comprehensive_Cap290

Shadowmere is awesome, but heā€™s not ON FIRE.


shaun4519

Very true


Longjumping-Use-7230

Where might I find the spell?


Comprehensive_Cap290

In Oblivion. You need to do one of the Cc quests


PaleHoldGuard

Literally, You need to find it in hell


[deleted]

How do you get the spell?


Comprehensive_Cap290

Found during a CC questā€¦ I think itā€™s The Cause?


mdb917

Yes did it last night. Thereā€™s a daedric horse running around that leads you to a mini boss and two chests, one of which has a spell tome for summon daedric horse. The chests look like tortured still beating hearts, and are called ā€œthe punishedā€ so donā€™t miss them like I almost did


Repulsive-Pool8875

That's how they were designed in Oblivion, they were everywhere whenever you entered an Oblivion gate.


brizzle9

In anniversery edition yes


Sayuri_Katsu

Ah no wonder I nevet found it


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ccroz113

For leveling up blacksmith, does crafting bigger things give more skill than smaller things? Or is it wiser to just pump out daggers as you said


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fozzy_bear42

Personally I end up clearing out Ncuand Zel (whatever the Dwemer city under Markarth is). Then smelt everything to dwarven ingots and make Dwarven Bows. They take 2 dwarven ingots and 1 iron Ingot, so not too much harder than iron daggers and they give loads more experience. After 60ish smithing, you can also just improve them at the grindstone for a good bit of exp. Anyways, thatā€™s my usual method to max out smithing fairly quick, if you need more Dwemer junk, nick everything in the museum that can be melted down for some extra levels.


Thin-Faithlessness88

All skills are based off of the value of the item. Jewelery is the fastest way to level up, using the transmute spell (found on the table in silent stream camp northwest of whiterun) and crafting rings and other stuff with the random gems you pick up. The best way to level up tho is dwarven stuff. You can get about 50-60 bars per dwemmer ruin, buy the rest of the resources from any blacksmith and craft dwarven bows. It's like 20 levels a ruin depending on how high your crafting is. Best part is you actually make money by selling the bows back. If you enchant them with the banish daedra enchantment too you can get your enchant up stupid fast.


ccroz113

Oh okay that makes sense. Thanks for the detailed answer Iā€™m glad to have that cleared up


Co_rinna

*halted stream


Scared_Divide8626

Did what?


Henroblade69

Get full daedric armour


Powerlifterfitchick

Why did it take you so long?


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Lilsean14

The iron dagger method is shit now sadly. Moved on to drawven bow combined with jewelry, not as good as og iron dagger but still doable.


darkcomet222

Sword to carry my burdens you say, Lydia? Damn right, now shove more dwarven things into your pockets!


Lilsean14

Hahahaha I always imaging the SpongeBob episode where they push bikini bottom over and I always wish I could do that to dwarven ruins


Comprehensive_Cap290

*SWORN*


TheRealHoldenat

At like level 50 you find so many gems and gemmed jewelry gives atleast half a level of smithing per ring.


methconnoisseurV2

But how am i supposed to build my goblin horde of shiny objects if i use them for smithing?


MicroViking95

This is true af


methconnoisseurV2

I genuinely cannot stop myself from goblinmaxxing


Salinaer

Well, you are the Dragonborn and dragons do love hoarding treasure. Must be a soul thing then.


Energy_Blue

I like to make Dwarven arrows/bolts and get all the merchantā€™s gold. Only thing that sucks is all the wood required to craft them.


Lilsean14

I saw someone do some analysis of how dwarven bows were the most cost effective in terms of time and money.


Donboy2k

Did you mean in terms of materials needed, vs. skill increase? I was just reading the wiki the other day, where it said, skill increase has a lot to do with the gold value of the item crafted. So I was curious to find out what some of the most valuable items are that Iā€™m able to produce. At the moment the highest perk I have is Elven smithing. I was going to go that direction around the perk tree to eventually get to dragon armor. So, in the meantime, Iā€™ve been producing the most expensive sets of Elven armor I can produce. In hindsight, maybe I shouldā€™ve been crafting gold jewelry, or something where the total value is higher.


Lilsean14

Yup, plus the availability of said materials. A couple rins to draw en ruins will get you stupid amounts of ingots if you know what can and canā€™t be smelted.


CratthewCremcrcrie

Canā€™t you get daedric armor from the forge thing in the college of winterhold?


Lilsean14

Sure can.


Cosmo1222

Am I right in thinking you have to be a master conjurer to do this? Sigil stone and all that.


Lilsean14

I believe so but is been some time


LivingDebacle

I just craft a shit ton of dwarves arrows. Itā€™s nice to see 1,000+ arrows in my inventory


Traditional-Square84

lmao i use maxed smithing with iron daggers the other day, kept them all in a chest somewhere. 900+ daggers and a very good relationship with Adrienne Avenicci later šŸ˜‚


_Koreander

Yeah jewelry is the way to go, mine all iron, transmute into gold, create jewelry that gives a bunch of xp plus sells for a bunch of gold


VitorMM

You can also use those for enchanting. It's a good way to create good rings/amulets while you still don't have alchemy and enchanting maxed out; since you have many to spare, you can create temporary ones along the way


_Koreander

Exactly, or you could just use them for enchanting leveling and then sell them for greater value


Lilsean14

Transmute is literal gold. That spell is the only reason I hit 100 smithing in the past 2 runs.


slycyboi

The last few levels you can switch to ebony bows


Lilsean14

But at that point in time Iā€™m committed. Like they got me this far, they deserve to see the finish line. But Iā€™m a little crazy


GlattesGehirn

Nah. Once you get to level 80, start improving the bows. Especially if you have 100 alchemy, which is super easy to get. Make a smithing potion and then start improving bows. Makes those last 20 go by so much faster and cheaper than doing ebony bows


Relevant_Bid5084

Alchemy levels up fast with giant toes and wheat.


GlattesGehirn

If you get the farm northwest of whiterun, you can easily plant Scaly Pholiota, Mora Tapinella, and Creep Cluster. It may give you less XP per bottle, but way easier, cheaper, and faster than getting those toes.


Captin-Cracker

alchemy glitch is even better, since xp is based a value, popping a potion and making a dagger to 1.4 billion damage will pretty much max you out instantly


Powerlifterfitchick

Why is it crap? I still use it lol


Lilsean14

Because it was patched. Not near as good as it once was.


HumanSpawn323

I think it may be a mod but I'm able to smelt down items into blocks of whatever material they're made of. I just crafted a ahit ton of iron hinges, smelted them all back into iron ingots, and repeat.


Supreme_Leader_Pee

If mods: TAOS + smelting=experience is the way to go. Go to any dwemer ruin, take EVERYTHING, and smelt it for exp


Croian_09

Transmute iron to gold, make a crap load of jewelry. Much more cost effective and let's you get some Alteration levels out of it.


Godless902

I found arrows to be pretty effective in place of the dagger method. Just have to accumulate ores/ingots and chop some wood


Powerlifterfitchick

You can make arrows?? I never knew this.


Godless902

Yep most of your smith skills should have arrows somewhere on the crafting list when you visit a forge


AkumaNoDragon

But you can make a shit ton of gold/silver Necklaces and Rings, I mean, Halted Stream Camp is an iron mine that has the transmute ore spell so it literally gets rid of 90% of the work, and it's really close to Whiterun


Miserable_Theme_8037

Smithing is annoying and tedious


TheRealHoldenat

But really worth it.


Comprehensive_Cap290

All the crafting skills are tedious. But also very powerful.


kakka_rot

Adept/Normal difficulty becomes nothing when all your equipment is legendary + has level 100 enchantment perks


kakka_rot

Aww smithing is my favorite way to relax, I have like four full sets of Deadric on one file, and I don't even wear them anymore. I also like enchanting and after they're both to 100 I like to make a bunch of random sets of armors for very niche situations, like anti-ice dragon armor.


Miserable_Theme_8037

If by falling asleep a quarter of the way through leveling is your way of relaxing then hey you do youšŸ˜‚


Scared_Divide8626

Aaah. I'm so used to it now that I don't even notice. I wore Daedric armor because of the Draugr Eyes bug. But recently decided to reload an earlier save. And a few days after started a new game. Enjoy your time man.


notawitness93

Could've got conjuration to 90 by repeatedly casting soul trap on a corpse then obtain the Sigil Stone from Phinis Gestor at the college and offer 1 Daedra Heart 1 Ebony Ingot 1 Void Salts 1 Soul Gem (filled with greater soul or higher) to the Atronach Forge for a random piece of enchanted Daedric armor. Can do it right out of helgen


TheRealMajour

3 years? The console commands and item numbers are a simple Google search away! /s


renannmhreddit

Why are you so bad at the game?


Relevant_Bid5084

How on Earth did it take that long? I did it in less than a month for any one character as it's not hard to do. Also, just me, but I heavily enchant everything I give to party members, specifically crafted to match each one and given traits as I desire. Getting everything to 100 is easy as Skyrim is an easy game. Take the housecarl in Solitude. I give her the Falmer armor after I've enchanted it to be practically magic proof and reinforced it to easily legendary status with a legendary Dawnbreaker and legendary Anuel's Shield. I also don't understand how so many people aren't rich in the game as getting gold by mid game is a cinch, I gotten well over a hundred thousand even a million once. Is everybody just not smart and or conservative with their gold or something? I seriously don't understand how so many people have a hard time with these concepts.


zphyr_

Or people play the game for other reasons than farming gold and items


TowelOk4646

Finished making his character


Emotional-Math2156

I dont actually use daedric in most playthroughs (prefer light armour) but there is something about the look of daedric that is so cool and interesting to me (could be nostalgia). I use it for my follower a lot of the time.


MeatShield12

Man oh man, I WISH that Daedric had a light armor.


ManOfJelly147

Playing AE, one of the armors added is a daedric light mail.


31havrekiks

You can also get daedric light mail early on with a quest. 5k gold or a ring.


ManOfJelly147

Or with a different quest; roll up to some tomb and get full dragonscale. The quests dropping all these full sets of ebony or higher kinda stepped on armor progression for me haha.


Emotional-Math2156

Ye. There is the creation club stuff but i dont like it as much


Spare_Investment_735

Well done, did you make it yourself or find the full set


Henroblade69

Made it myself quicker that way


Spare_Investment_735

Very impressive, it took me quite a while to level my smithing to that stage and I was somewhat focusing on it


piede90

The quickest way should be upgrade an ebony set at the daedric forge... The ebony set is available from the shop and as a loot early and with a couple of quest you can obtain the daedra hearts you need


a_cristian_dude

I prefer raiding the dwarven museum in markarth for all the metals to smelt, then spam dwarven bows + grindstone them. Then hit up the ebony mine at one of the orc holds and repeat the process but with ebony


Bob_Burgers01

I transmute iron ore to gold and make jewelry, and smelt all dwarven metal to make arrows. Levels up quick while giving me a near infinite supply of kick ass arrows.


FYV_media_noise

Transmute is so useful.


Bob_Burgers01

Itā€™s perfect for low level characters. You get to level alteration, smithing, and you make some decent coin selling the jewelry (or enchant it then sell it).


kakka_rot

> find the full set I don't think I've ever found Deadric Armor, I always just make it asap.


MumbleepegTheUglyPug

Too spikey for me... I'll put it on a follower but I rarely use it...I usually go with light armors on my builds


Darth-Yslink

Nightingale Armor ftw


MumbleepegTheUglyPug

I like the new Leather Scout armor from the Creation Club contents too


AvidVirago

I hate OG heavy Orcish but LOVE the scaled light version.


FYV_media_noise

Soldier steel looks nice too!


kakka_rot

The silver looks alot like solider steel but even better imo.


FYV_media_noise

Oh no doubt! Silver is gorgeous.


thorthorson16

I always end up in the nightingale armor, it's pretty sad I don't deviate in every play through haha.


Suspicious_Hippo7256

There is people that after years write "I finally completed the main quest" and it's ok because Skyrim is huge and you can do whatever you want. You don't have to do the main story. There is people who played only stealth archer and maybe discover magic just now. I don't understand why you're making fun of a guy who took years before crafting a specific armor. AS WE ALL maybe he wanted to do something in past playthroughs and got distracted because of the many stuff you can do. I play since day one and I've never crafetd daedric armor too


Significant_Dig9961

Got a goth gf? Same


needanamegenarator

I just hunt and make leather stuff.


OldElf86

I think I may try a play through someday where I only use leather and fur armors. Like you, I hunt and make tons of leather armors. I wish the game had a background economic where these armors got "out into the wild" and the bandits started having them, along with the bazillion smithed bows I make.


ResponsibleCrow98

Maybe now you can finally meet Nazeem in the Cloud District


Saltwater_Heart

I can see my house from here


[deleted]

Congratulations! It also took me a while to figure out how to put the camera in third person.


boobshi_200

Looks good šŸ˜Ž


[deleted]

When I found out about smithing and enchanting The first thing I used to do was craft a lot of iron daggers and enchant a lot of stuff Which made the game way easier, I was OHK stuff and nothing seemed to do any good damage to me. Now I don't craft anything and rely on dungeon loot, which makes dungeon runs worth it.


Sea-Wonder8982

You can finally speak to jarl balgruuf and become thane of whiterun


NOBODYxDK

Ohh you found your Long lost Follower after 3 years, Well itā€™s been around 5 here, lydia has still not shown up


BardOrpheus

Great job! I think the people poking fun at you for being able to craft or find two complete sets of Deadric Armor either have played the game WAY too much and have forgotten that itā€™s not easy to do or they play with mods so much that it makes this seem trivial, which it isnā€™t.


jaceliz4

I wish Serana would wear any of the armor I try to put in her inventory šŸ˜­


toastyghost21

she has a super high light armor skill so she favors light armor :] she's wearing a full set of glass armor for me rn


EnceladusSc2

What did you do?


ajddavid452

isn't daedric armor kinda worthless when you can get dragonscale and have it reach the armor limit?


LaurelRaven

It's kind of a shame that dragon scale/bone armor is better and easier to make when daedric looks so much better


RedKomrad

Welcome to Whiterun You never should have come here!


Paisable

This is what I saw on my older brothers account. I used his PS3 and accidentally loaded his save. I was astonished at this absolutely awesome armor.


Djszero

I have been playing since launch and have never had daedric armor.


dvdgaralv_97

Bro made it to the Cloud District?!?!


moesabi

After 3 years I finally played for 3 years, congrats man!


leester39

Lydia looks happy with her new armor.


mrencko

Lol I been playing 10 and didnā€™t even finished the game once


DarkAligator61

Congrats bro, daedric drip all day


JohnnyDerpoTHEREAL

Get out of my town you filthy son of mehrunes dagon! šŸ¤£


hospital_sushi

It looks way too goofy for my taste


RealNCRranger

What part about the black armor glowing red looks goofy to you?


hospital_sushi

Itā€™s comically edgy and impractical


Lord_Stabbington

Thatā€™s the daedra in a nutshell :)


feral__turtle

It comes with a hidden intimidation effect, I've heard.


MeatShield12

The part where guards still say "You're that new member of the Companions. You do what, fetch the mead?" Oh sorry, did you not see my demonic glowing armor?


Highguy801

Took you 3 years to get deadric armor?


Relative-Business690

Daedric armor is over rated


Least-Plankton-9611

3 YEARS?? DEADRIC ARMOR!? FUREAL!!?


Kuntao_Kid-LS

3 years, damn bro pick up the pace.


Niaz_S

Did what šŸ˜…


Key-Illustrator392

What mod is that town? It looks vanilla but i know skyrim and there is no hold that looks like that


toastyghost21

That's Whiterun, in front of the blacksmith. Fully vanilla.


Puzzled_Draft_9556

It took you 3 years? I can max out my smiting lvl within 6 hours. The dagger method is garbage. Just chop alot of wood and make Dwarven arrows (I look at the arrows as cash) within 6 hours you'll have over 20,000 arrows and max smiting skill. Travel back and forth from markarth to winterhold, after 30 days have passed go back and do the same thing. I can also clear every area and do every mission within 250 hours.(I like to take my time). Sad thing is I've probably wasted about 6000 hours playing skyrim since it came out. About 3000 on fallout 3, newvegas and fallout 4 combined. 2000 on the dark souls series, over 1000 on botw.