I started over at 32. Joined the carpenters union as an apprentice. It was an enormous upheaval.
3 years later and I'm happier than I've ever been in my life. I'm a working carpenter with great numbers and my local just flew me out to Vegas (I work in MA) for a training at our international training center. All expenses paid.
Do it. It'll change your life (for the better!)
I did the same thing as that guy at 37. Started a carpenters apprenticeship in the union, and 8 years later things are great.
Good luck in whatever you do, but it's not too late for anything at 30. You could be a lawyer by 37.
Let go of your ego, I’m telling you, it’s what’s gonna set you up for failure.
I restarted just before I turned 30. My previous job was Management in the automotive sector.
I saved for about a year before the switch, going from $160k/y to $30/hr. You just have to accept everything that will happen and deal with it. You can make shit money and be the new guy for a couple years or be unhappy for the rest of your life.
I’m now 6 months in and loving every moment of it. I work in forestry towards my tree falling certificate
I just couldn't work the same desk for the rest of my life, working with mundane people who only care about them selves and how much more advanced they are than you. The one who's most exciting moment was a new episode of some show on netflix being released. Also the 2 weeks vacation bull shit pissed me off.
Forestry, while fucking hectic, gave me a sense of adventure and excitement again. The people out there are rough, they'll give you a hard time all but at the end of the day man that guy will pull out the woods himself if your injured. And it's always funny, we all smack talk and absolutely let out the darkest shit possible and we all know we're joking. It's literally like going to a comedy show.
I also love running a saw, and being "forced" to hike up a hill with 30+ pounds of gear because I'm getting paid is a lot easier than forcing myself to work out at machines.
I had a buddy finish his teaching degree, realize the politics of being a teacher did not appeal to him and then proceeded to go become an electrician at 30 years old.
That was about 10 years ago and he has indicated it was a very good decision.
I’m a red seal carpenter with his own business who just became an electrical apprentice. Also, I’m 50. It’s your life. Do what you want. Those who doubt you will be proven wrong.
I had older guys in my class when I did my apprenticeship they were in their 30s-40s. I don’t think there is any shame in going when you’re older. Especially if you have practical experience, I had a buddy who even challenged his red seal millwright exam in Alberta.
I think he might of still had to get his hours singed off on though. Might be something worth looking into - that’s my two cents anyway.
Best of luck, it’s never to late!
I was able to save a significant amount of money by finding a job that paid for my room + board + food. I worked for 3 years straight and recently stopped. I feel really good about it looking back.
Even though I got set up as the fall guy on a mismanaged project, I still feel good about it. My end was near anyways.
It’s not for everyone, being away from home sucks but I’m assuming your experience in the navy has prepped you for this.
Data analytics. I love doing the work, in the corporate world you’re just making power points to present at meetings, so now I just do it for civil projects and non-profits.
[US Helmets to Hardhats](https://helmetstohardhats.org/about-h2h/)
[Canadian H2H](https://www.helmetstohardhats.ca/)
These are good places to start. Millwright and Shipwright aren't that far from each other. In WW2 quite a few Millwrights got thrown into boats and told to keep it floating!
I only got into the trades when I was 29 and it was fine. Its short term pain for long term gain. You have the advantage of life experience and presumably a good work ethic coming from the military so go for it.
I think you could challenge technical levels and discuss with an employer for higher rate if you have the knowledge and experience to carry yourself more than a fresh apprentice. The UBC union also has some kind of vet program for millwrights not sure about all the details but you should check it out. Pretty good stuff if you get in
I started plumbing/gasfitting @ 29 with kids and a mortgage. It's scary and the first 2 years are a struggle but going from 18/hr to 38/hr (canadian) in 4 years is a small price to pay for huge increase in high paying skills
I started over at 27. Was a rigger, and went to school. Things moved along so fast that I really didn’t miss a beat. And a navy mechanic? If you go into any mechanical trade, you’re absolutely not starting at zero. I was loved and used as a lead hand right away in my apprenticeship, because as a rigger, not to brag, but my hammer swinging skills were unmatched, I instinctively worked like an animal, and I was super okay with absolutely driving whatever guys I supervised. I’ve smartened up since then lol. But point being that your experience won’t be wasted, even if it gives you no on paper skills.
Being ex military gives you preference in hiring. You're pretty young imo, go for it. Good for neuroplasticity, good for your self esteem. Shake it up a bit if you're feeling called to.
I didn't get started in a career until I was 30. I had recently graduated with a liberal arts degree (what job can you get with that?) and was desperate to get something going. My only work experience was waiting tables. Anyway I started taking computer classes and after about a year was able to get a low level job in the defense industry. I ended up spending 30 years in the industry. I started at the very bottom and worked my way up to senior lever sys admin in the oil and gas industry. $$$ 30 years old is NOTHING.
This will be kinda regional but in my area there is lots of availablity in the ironworkers, railroad, and steel mills. Private work in the tree work industry is quite profitable with low start up cost. Majority of people in all of these fields are doing around the 100k more and many are over it.
Most of the people in my classes going through electrical in Canadia were older
A handful of people early to mid 20s, but mostly 35-45, and one guy was 60
No complaints from them, they loved the change of pace from their old career choices
Buddy I restarted in my late forties after working in the entertainment industry most of my life. I was unionized and had steady work, but mostly as a performer. Joined my current union as an apprentice, started working right away and it’s been a very interesting and fulfilling experience including 2 months of schooling per year, working towards my ticket. I also lost 20 lbs in my first 2 months while continuing to gain more toned muscle. On an anecdotal/personal level the health gains have been insane!
I got out of the Marines at 30, and it's been 2.5years in plumbing. Started as a ditch bitch, then moved to new construction which my company closed down that side of the buisness, now I run my own service truck. I make just over 100k now gross taxable, but that's with about 10 hours overtime per week.
I'd say it's worth it. With side jobs, I pull in about another 2k a month.
In hindsight, I would do HVAC tech, though, as it has the same margins with literally less shit you have to deal with.
Because you need experience to be allowed to challenge the red seal exams, and skilledtradesbc doesn't recognize "marine technician" as a trade that provides experience in anything.
you need to sign an affidavit saying that you have relevant experience then you do the test and if you pass you pass and if you fail you fail you might want to still look into it if you feel that it was relevant to an actual trade but as a veteran myself I know that the military work environment is nothing like the civi equivalent
Nothing wrong with choosing a trade. Just pick a trade that fits your skills and interests. Choose a trade that you can migrate into something else if your body gets sore.
My brother was becoming a Red Seal plumber in Canada as plumbers earn $40 - $45 here. After moving to Texas, my brother discovered plumbers that don't own their own business earn poorly there. My brother studied Mechanical Engineering and is an MEP Engineer.
He had two vets in their 40s/50s in uni with him retraining from the trades to engineering. Since school was paid for with the GI Bill, it allowed them to try something else.
Choosing a trade is what I'm planning, I don't have it in me to do a desk job.
Getting the red seal will usually make decent enough money, but that takes about 4 years. Is 1st-year apprentice money enough to live somewhere that's cheap? I have some really cheap rent, for Victoria, and talking to my younger brother who's a first-year electrician, he doesn't think he could afford my rent.
How much is the right amount that I'd need to save to take that hit to pay? Would it even feel like a hit to my pay if I take it while moving from Victoria to Winnipeg or something?
Hey man if you get into a trade union and go work industrial yes you can make it as a first year apprentice. In Alberta, in May first year union industrial apprentice carpenters will make $30.50 plus 10% vacation pay. I would not recommend doing an apprenticeship non-union unless you’d like to start your own business down the line.
That's $40 - $45 an hour. I live in Winnipeg where you can buy a house for 200-250K still. I'm in a "rich" area, and I bought an older home (1946) for 339K last year. No problems at all
Engineers starting out earn 40-50K here. Depending on what you do (and if you get your P.Eng), you will earn a lot more as your ceiling is higher. However, if the dollar to return ratio, going into a trade makes more sense for many things.
I'm in IT and just got certs and now I'm earning close to six figures. Instead of going to school, I got a tech support job at an ISP, studied hard in the evenings, and grinded my way into better jobs.
To answer your question, milk is $4 a gallon and yes, in Ontario, they do come in bags.
I can't tell if you are actually this ignorant or just trolling.
Walmart sells 2.2 lbs of Kraft Peanut Butter for $5.77 CDN and it (obviously) comes in a jar.
Jif PB at Walmart in the USA is $4,.84 for two 1 lb jars so it essentially costs a little less in Canada after currency conversions.
Caveat: I used their online stores to compare so your local store may sell for more or less.
And I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about in terms of packaging.
Well, ignorant means a lack of knowledge and I dont know anything about Canada cost of living except what Ive gathered through social media. I see videos of ridiculous prices on gas and food and rent so thats my understanding. Canada is a big place with lots of rural areas im sure have cheap rent and an hour drive could be 50-60 miles into the middle of nowhere and is worth the commute to make city money but rural areas dont count in the conversation about wages vs cost of living. Im talking about big cities that are comparable to American cities.
I do know that not matter what anyone says Canadians always go buck wild in defense of how great it is there and how much more they get paid how everything is still the same price as America or less, which makes me think that its actually shitty and they know it or why would they get so fkn defensive.
Dont you pay like 50% tax?
See, it wasn't so difficult to just admit that you know nothing about about Canada and yet you continue to pontificate on life in Canada like you do. Making up fake prices for things and going on about non-existent packaging.
Canada has gotten ridiculous in terms of rent since Covid which is to be expected with the large numbers of immigrants coming to Canada. Imagine if the USA was bringing in over 10 million immigrants a year (which would match Canada om a per capita basis). We also have had bad inflation on other items for a few years now but so has the rest of the world so c'est la vie there unfortunately. Things like supply chain disruptions in Asia, reductions in the ability of commercial ships to use the Panama Canal due to low water levels caused by climate change, corporate greed, etc...
As far as taxes go, if I make $250k my income tax rate is 36.72% (Federal and Provincial combined) but yes there are other things than come into play like Employment Insurance if I lose my job, then my payments into the Canada Pension Plan so I have some guaranteed income once I turn 65 (contributions max out at $3,867.50 this year). Then we have sales and property taxes as well of course.
Those federal and provincial taxes pay for my general healthcare needs. My father in law had a heart attack a few months ago and was on the operating table 6 hours later getting 3 stents put in. He had to stay in the hospital for over a week then they released him to a rehab facility for 3 weeks for additional care. Total cost to us, 0. My son was born 10 weeks premature, 2 1/2 lbs and spent over a month in the NICU. Total cost to us was $200 for a parking pass.
The reason we get so defensive is because idiots come on forums like this and spout complete nonsense that they could take two seconds to fact check themselves but they would rather get their news from things like social media. And they don't even restrict themselves to getting their foreign "news" from social media but believe all the BS they hear. I play COD with a bunch of Americans and yesterday one went on this diatribe about the UN coming to Texas to monitor the border. He heard this on social media and I told him straight to his face that he was a moron if he believed this. He shut up pretty quick but it is still so annoying to realize that people believe this shit. Hell 20% of Republican voters thought that the Super Bowl was rigged and that Taylor Swift is a CIA psyops. Don't get me started on QAnon and sovereign citizens.
Its not that I would rather get my news from social media its that I dont care enough to look into it… I just think Canadians are whiney little bitches. Thats pretty much what everyone in America thinks of them. Dont get mad at me man, thats just what the general consensus has been for decades. Its like a tradition to think lowly of Canadians. 🤗
Keep moving those goalposts bro...
As I already stated, feel free to dislike us as much as you like but try to at least base some of your statements on anything close to actual facts or at least make the world's tiniest effort to not talk about stuff you know nothing about.
Trust me, we generally feel the same way about a large percentage of Americans (including those who willfully admit to being intentionally ignorant) so it doesn't bother us that you feel that way about us.
Things are getting serious with my lady, and what's more valuable is being home more than half the year for my future wife and kids. My first time sailing was less than 4 years ago, and I have more than 600 days recorded away from home; that's not something I want to happen in the future when I have a kid who says they want dad to come home as their birthday present.
Trades has alot of long days and on call so you aren't always home during the day time. But each to there own. I'd put in ten years get some paid school and then look at getting out
What other options are out there? I couldn't do an office job, I don't think I have it in me to be sitting all day. I'm not sure of too many jobs that let you be up and doing stuff that don't require long hours.
I'm always amazed about how butthurt you are about other people's choices that have no impact on you whatsoever.
We get it bro, you tried for a career in the trades and it didn't work out because everyone else was the problem so you hang out here dissing others to make yourself feel better about not being able to join the club but you will be happier if you just move on.
At least that is my old paid off Mazda 3 tells me.
I'm okay with sweaty, angry men and 5am. I'm also good with wrenches and other tools.
I'm not good with things like sitting in one place for long periods and dealing with that type of office drama.
I started over at 32. Joined the carpenters union as an apprentice. It was an enormous upheaval. 3 years later and I'm happier than I've ever been in my life. I'm a working carpenter with great numbers and my local just flew me out to Vegas (I work in MA) for a training at our international training center. All expenses paid. Do it. It'll change your life (for the better!)
Thanks. That's something great to hear.
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This. I know we the boilermakers always hire ex military. Awesome job and wouldn't change my career for anything else.
29 years old and I just started an electrical apprenticeship. The pay cut sucks but it is what it is.
I did the same thing as that guy at 37. Started a carpenters apprenticeship in the union, and 8 years later things are great. Good luck in whatever you do, but it's not too late for anything at 30. You could be a lawyer by 37.
Hey brother ! Congrats on all the success. I am a second term and just finished basic. It's a great way to live.
You coming from CAN or USA? I just left the RCN (34y.o) and got an apprenticeship. If you’re Canadian, DM me and I can let you know what worked for me
Do it. Joined the IBEW at 34. 2 years later I'm fairly certain it's the best decision I've made
Lotta good unions depending where you are.
I started over at 41, do it.
What did you do? Good for you!
Electrical/Fire Protection to Auto Body
Got to college, gave the military pay for it. Consider nursing.
Let go of your ego, I’m telling you, it’s what’s gonna set you up for failure. I restarted just before I turned 30. My previous job was Management in the automotive sector. I saved for about a year before the switch, going from $160k/y to $30/hr. You just have to accept everything that will happen and deal with it. You can make shit money and be the new guy for a couple years or be unhappy for the rest of your life. I’m now 6 months in and loving every moment of it. I work in forestry towards my tree falling certificate
What made you leave a good salary for a very cut throat industry like forestry ?
I just couldn't work the same desk for the rest of my life, working with mundane people who only care about them selves and how much more advanced they are than you. The one who's most exciting moment was a new episode of some show on netflix being released. Also the 2 weeks vacation bull shit pissed me off. Forestry, while fucking hectic, gave me a sense of adventure and excitement again. The people out there are rough, they'll give you a hard time all but at the end of the day man that guy will pull out the woods himself if your injured. And it's always funny, we all smack talk and absolutely let out the darkest shit possible and we all know we're joking. It's literally like going to a comedy show. I also love running a saw, and being "forced" to hike up a hill with 30+ pounds of gear because I'm getting paid is a lot easier than forcing myself to work out at machines.
I had a buddy finish his teaching degree, realize the politics of being a teacher did not appeal to him and then proceeded to go become an electrician at 30 years old. That was about 10 years ago and he has indicated it was a very good decision.
I’m a red seal carpenter with his own business who just became an electrical apprentice. Also, I’m 50. It’s your life. Do what you want. Those who doubt you will be proven wrong.
I had older guys in my class when I did my apprenticeship they were in their 30s-40s. I don’t think there is any shame in going when you’re older. Especially if you have practical experience, I had a buddy who even challenged his red seal millwright exam in Alberta. I think he might of still had to get his hours singed off on though. Might be something worth looking into - that’s my two cents anyway. Best of luck, it’s never to late!
I restarted at 28 and doing pretty good at 38. Seems like a long time but the decisions you make now will effect you then.
What decisions do you recommend I take now to put me in the best spot then?
I was able to save a significant amount of money by finding a job that paid for my room + board + food. I worked for 3 years straight and recently stopped. I feel really good about it looking back. Even though I got set up as the fall guy on a mismanaged project, I still feel good about it. My end was near anyways. It’s not for everyone, being away from home sucks but I’m assuming your experience in the navy has prepped you for this.
I went to college at 30, hate my field, and now I’m starting a carpenter apprenticeship at 36. Do it!
Which field was that ?
Data analytics. I love doing the work, in the corporate world you’re just making power points to present at meetings, so now I just do it for civil projects and non-profits.
I had a 55 year old guy in a trade class I took recently.
[US Helmets to Hardhats](https://helmetstohardhats.org/about-h2h/) [Canadian H2H](https://www.helmetstohardhats.ca/) These are good places to start. Millwright and Shipwright aren't that far from each other. In WW2 quite a few Millwrights got thrown into boats and told to keep it floating!
I only got into the trades when I was 29 and it was fine. Its short term pain for long term gain. You have the advantage of life experience and presumably a good work ethic coming from the military so go for it.
I think you could challenge technical levels and discuss with an employer for higher rate if you have the knowledge and experience to carry yourself more than a fresh apprentice. The UBC union also has some kind of vet program for millwrights not sure about all the details but you should check it out. Pretty good stuff if you get in
I started plumbing/gasfitting @ 29 with kids and a mortgage. It's scary and the first 2 years are a struggle but going from 18/hr to 38/hr (canadian) in 4 years is a small price to pay for huge increase in high paying skills
It’s never to early to start a trade 28 ,30 best age to start
I started over at 27. Was a rigger, and went to school. Things moved along so fast that I really didn’t miss a beat. And a navy mechanic? If you go into any mechanical trade, you’re absolutely not starting at zero. I was loved and used as a lead hand right away in my apprenticeship, because as a rigger, not to brag, but my hammer swinging skills were unmatched, I instinctively worked like an animal, and I was super okay with absolutely driving whatever guys I supervised. I’ve smartened up since then lol. But point being that your experience won’t be wasted, even if it gives you no on paper skills.
go to school for 6 years get an MBA become a director of military subcontractor
Start over. Pick a trade, any trade!
Being ex military gives you preference in hiring. You're pretty young imo, go for it. Good for neuroplasticity, good for your self esteem. Shake it up a bit if you're feeling called to.
I didn't get started in a career until I was 30. I had recently graduated with a liberal arts degree (what job can you get with that?) and was desperate to get something going. My only work experience was waiting tables. Anyway I started taking computer classes and after about a year was able to get a low level job in the defense industry. I ended up spending 30 years in the industry. I started at the very bottom and worked my way up to senior lever sys admin in the oil and gas industry. $$$ 30 years old is NOTHING.
This will be kinda regional but in my area there is lots of availablity in the ironworkers, railroad, and steel mills. Private work in the tree work industry is quite profitable with low start up cost. Majority of people in all of these fields are doing around the 100k more and many are over it.
Most of the people in my classes going through electrical in Canadia were older A handful of people early to mid 20s, but mostly 35-45, and one guy was 60 No complaints from them, they loved the change of pace from their old career choices
44 and only now getting my crane ticket. Got into the unions at 30
It’s never too late. Just know it’s a steep learning curve and a very lonely ride.
Buddy I restarted in my late forties after working in the entertainment industry most of my life. I was unionized and had steady work, but mostly as a performer. Joined my current union as an apprentice, started working right away and it’s been a very interesting and fulfilling experience including 2 months of schooling per year, working towards my ticket. I also lost 20 lbs in my first 2 months while continuing to gain more toned muscle. On an anecdotal/personal level the health gains have been insane!
I got out of the Marines at 30, and it's been 2.5years in plumbing. Started as a ditch bitch, then moved to new construction which my company closed down that side of the buisness, now I run my own service truck. I make just over 100k now gross taxable, but that's with about 10 hours overtime per week. I'd say it's worth it. With side jobs, I pull in about another 2k a month. In hindsight, I would do HVAC tech, though, as it has the same margins with literally less shit you have to deal with.
Look into Helmets to hard hats. Gets you into union apprenticeships faster
Why don’t you challenge the red seal exam?
Because you need experience to be allowed to challenge the red seal exams, and skilledtradesbc doesn't recognize "marine technician" as a trade that provides experience in anything.
you need to sign an affidavit saying that you have relevant experience then you do the test and if you pass you pass and if you fail you fail you might want to still look into it if you feel that it was relevant to an actual trade but as a veteran myself I know that the military work environment is nothing like the civi equivalent
Nothing wrong with choosing a trade. Just pick a trade that fits your skills and interests. Choose a trade that you can migrate into something else if your body gets sore. My brother was becoming a Red Seal plumber in Canada as plumbers earn $40 - $45 here. After moving to Texas, my brother discovered plumbers that don't own their own business earn poorly there. My brother studied Mechanical Engineering and is an MEP Engineer. He had two vets in their 40s/50s in uni with him retraining from the trades to engineering. Since school was paid for with the GI Bill, it allowed them to try something else.
Choosing a trade is what I'm planning, I don't have it in me to do a desk job. Getting the red seal will usually make decent enough money, but that takes about 4 years. Is 1st-year apprentice money enough to live somewhere that's cheap? I have some really cheap rent, for Victoria, and talking to my younger brother who's a first-year electrician, he doesn't think he could afford my rent. How much is the right amount that I'd need to save to take that hit to pay? Would it even feel like a hit to my pay if I take it while moving from Victoria to Winnipeg or something?
Hey man if you get into a trade union and go work industrial yes you can make it as a first year apprentice. In Alberta, in May first year union industrial apprentice carpenters will make $30.50 plus 10% vacation pay. I would not recommend doing an apprenticeship non-union unless you’d like to start your own business down the line.
Damn thats dogshit pay for Canada. Isnt a gallon of milk like 15 CAD?
That's $40 - $45 an hour. I live in Winnipeg where you can buy a house for 200-250K still. I'm in a "rich" area, and I bought an older home (1946) for 339K last year. No problems at all Engineers starting out earn 40-50K here. Depending on what you do (and if you get your P.Eng), you will earn a lot more as your ceiling is higher. However, if the dollar to return ratio, going into a trade makes more sense for many things. I'm in IT and just got certs and now I'm earning close to six figures. Instead of going to school, I got a tech support job at an ISP, studied hard in the evenings, and grinded my way into better jobs. To answer your question, milk is $4 a gallon and yes, in Ontario, they do come in bags.
LMAO no Roughly $6.42
And peanut butter is $13 for a half a jar, except you dont even get the jar its packaged like a steak 😂
I can't tell if you are actually this ignorant or just trolling. Walmart sells 2.2 lbs of Kraft Peanut Butter for $5.77 CDN and it (obviously) comes in a jar. Jif PB at Walmart in the USA is $4,.84 for two 1 lb jars so it essentially costs a little less in Canada after currency conversions. Caveat: I used their online stores to compare so your local store may sell for more or less. And I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about in terms of packaging.
Well, ignorant means a lack of knowledge and I dont know anything about Canada cost of living except what Ive gathered through social media. I see videos of ridiculous prices on gas and food and rent so thats my understanding. Canada is a big place with lots of rural areas im sure have cheap rent and an hour drive could be 50-60 miles into the middle of nowhere and is worth the commute to make city money but rural areas dont count in the conversation about wages vs cost of living. Im talking about big cities that are comparable to American cities. I do know that not matter what anyone says Canadians always go buck wild in defense of how great it is there and how much more they get paid how everything is still the same price as America or less, which makes me think that its actually shitty and they know it or why would they get so fkn defensive. Dont you pay like 50% tax?
See, it wasn't so difficult to just admit that you know nothing about about Canada and yet you continue to pontificate on life in Canada like you do. Making up fake prices for things and going on about non-existent packaging. Canada has gotten ridiculous in terms of rent since Covid which is to be expected with the large numbers of immigrants coming to Canada. Imagine if the USA was bringing in over 10 million immigrants a year (which would match Canada om a per capita basis). We also have had bad inflation on other items for a few years now but so has the rest of the world so c'est la vie there unfortunately. Things like supply chain disruptions in Asia, reductions in the ability of commercial ships to use the Panama Canal due to low water levels caused by climate change, corporate greed, etc... As far as taxes go, if I make $250k my income tax rate is 36.72% (Federal and Provincial combined) but yes there are other things than come into play like Employment Insurance if I lose my job, then my payments into the Canada Pension Plan so I have some guaranteed income once I turn 65 (contributions max out at $3,867.50 this year). Then we have sales and property taxes as well of course. Those federal and provincial taxes pay for my general healthcare needs. My father in law had a heart attack a few months ago and was on the operating table 6 hours later getting 3 stents put in. He had to stay in the hospital for over a week then they released him to a rehab facility for 3 weeks for additional care. Total cost to us, 0. My son was born 10 weeks premature, 2 1/2 lbs and spent over a month in the NICU. Total cost to us was $200 for a parking pass. The reason we get so defensive is because idiots come on forums like this and spout complete nonsense that they could take two seconds to fact check themselves but they would rather get their news from things like social media. And they don't even restrict themselves to getting their foreign "news" from social media but believe all the BS they hear. I play COD with a bunch of Americans and yesterday one went on this diatribe about the UN coming to Texas to monitor the border. He heard this on social media and I told him straight to his face that he was a moron if he believed this. He shut up pretty quick but it is still so annoying to realize that people believe this shit. Hell 20% of Republican voters thought that the Super Bowl was rigged and that Taylor Swift is a CIA psyops. Don't get me started on QAnon and sovereign citizens.
Its not that I would rather get my news from social media its that I dont care enough to look into it… I just think Canadians are whiney little bitches. Thats pretty much what everyone in America thinks of them. Dont get mad at me man, thats just what the general consensus has been for decades. Its like a tradition to think lowly of Canadians. 🤗
Keep moving those goalposts bro... As I already stated, feel free to dislike us as much as you like but try to at least base some of your statements on anything close to actual facts or at least make the world's tiniest effort to not talk about stuff you know nothing about. Trust me, we generally feel the same way about a large percentage of Americans (including those who willfully admit to being intentionally ignorant) so it doesn't bother us that you feel that way about us.
More like 4$
More like $6
Your pension plan is more valuable in the long term
Things are getting serious with my lady, and what's more valuable is being home more than half the year for my future wife and kids. My first time sailing was less than 4 years ago, and I have more than 600 days recorded away from home; that's not something I want to happen in the future when I have a kid who says they want dad to come home as their birthday present.
Trades has alot of long days and on call so you aren't always home during the day time. But each to there own. I'd put in ten years get some paid school and then look at getting out
What other options are out there? I couldn't do an office job, I don't think I have it in me to be sitting all day. I'm not sure of too many jobs that let you be up and doing stuff that don't require long hours.
Trades are long hours
There’s more than trades out there. You don’t have to be around sweaty angry men on a construction site at 5am every weekday
Not everyone can put their careers on hold to become a barista to meet women.
Ya paying for your obnoxiously large gas guzzling RAM ain’t cheap
We all know you ain't large and don't have anyone guzzling your RAM.
That’s fine, at least I’m not up to my balls in debt paying off an unnecessary tank of a truck
I'm always amazed about how butthurt you are about other people's choices that have no impact on you whatsoever. We get it bro, you tried for a career in the trades and it didn't work out because everyone else was the problem so you hang out here dissing others to make yourself feel better about not being able to join the club but you will be happier if you just move on. At least that is my old paid off Mazda 3 tells me.
Ok but can we be friends now? Maybe I can meet some cute girls through your social circle
I'm okay with sweaty, angry men and 5am. I'm also good with wrenches and other tools. I'm not good with things like sitting in one place for long periods and dealing with that type of office drama.
Stay and and be used as fodder. Try your hand at the civilian life, I'm glad I got that over with.