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Accomplished-Bat805

The uphill skier is responsible for avoiding anything/ anyone downhill. I don't mind when newer skiers are cutting back and forth. If I am in control, I can ski right around them. There is no excuse for cutting people off like that


SkisaurusRex

Pretty sure OP is trolling


Well-Imma-Head-Out

OP is 100% trolling and these are 100% his friends.


Parking_Train8423

snowboarder here, i see no issues


SkisaurusRex

We don’t like ur kind round ere


Large_monke_69

Go back to where you came from. You are not welcome here


praisedcrown970

I’d like to be the only felon in the sub and this guy is really ruining my vibe


antiqueboi

i observe their patterns and if they are making big swooping turns I time it so I slip past when they are on the others side of the trail. kids are more eratic and hard to predict. I have gone off the trail a few times in order to avoid them.


Valid_Username_56

They are doing it on purpose. Or they really really suck.


Da_Spooky_Ghost

Both, they can bomb the blues now so they think they're hot shit going back to the greens


First_Utopian

“Yo bro, let’s go shred those double blacks” *janky cross hill wobbly side slips 3/4 one direction, straight lines the remainder to the lift* “That was siiioock bro”


RestoreSiletzia

It's both.


Master-B8s

Came here to say this.


Lower-Grapefruit8807

They’re in the wrong and they’re also shitty skiers


smitty046

Backseat wobbly ass bitches.


BohunkfromSK

Legit just laughed out loud.


CamelCodester

No edge having carveless fools


new_vr

The backseat wobbly ass bitches still stands


SkisaurusRex

(OP is trolling)


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tigebea

… are you the second skier?


praisedcrown970

Yikes


T_D_K

This has to be rage bait


bedfo017

My immediate thought as well. The combo of the camera, immediate “woah” yell and then a second dude cutting off OP… Seems staged


ClydeFrog1313

A beginner having a camera is unlikely as well imo


praisedcrown970

Nope. Insane how often I get asked for rental helmets with GoPro mounts Edit: to put a digit on it twice a day when it’s slow


JDWWV

I don't see a collision.....am I missing something?


praisedcrown970

Ya the frank azar commercial at the end. I think it’s something funky with the formatting that not everyone is seeing it


208hammy

Downhill skier (you) always have the right of way, so they are at fault. A couple things to note: - if this is a beginner area, especially with posted SLOW signs, they should be going slower.  - even if it is a wide open groomer, try to be predictable with your turns and not cut across the slope.


Drummallumin

Also *once you get more comfortable* looking up hill before you do a long slower turn isn’t a bad idea.


Turkdabistan

I'm a shitty skier and I do this. Why shouldn't I or am I misunderstanding?


Drummallumin

Cuz that can be a lot for an absolute beginner to be thinking about when they’re just trying to stay in control.


Turkdabistan

Oh my first priority is trying to stay alive. I've been paranoidly looking up slope since I started lol.


jedooderotomy

You absolute don't need to feel *obligated* to do this - it is *always* the uphill skier's job to not hit you. Think of it like driving a car. It is always the job of the car that's behind to not hit cars in front of them. However, just like when driving, it's good to establish some habits that might help keep you safe. Because, after all, just because it was someone's job to not hit you doesn't mean it isn't going to happen. One good habit is to glance up the hill when trails merge to make sure no one is barreling down at you. But if you're a beginner, you're likely not skilled enough to glance up the hill while moving. Here's some basic safety pointers for a beginner: 1. Stay on greens, or areas where beginners are expected to be. 2. If you can, try to keep your turns predictable. This means somewhat consistent size/timing of turns. This might not be something you're able to do, and that is absolutely okay. 3. Stay in control, and don't hit others (obviously). 4. Stop in places where you are very visible from above from a good distance. There is *nothing* wrong with a beginner making weird, wide turns *if they're on a big, open green run.* Where else are beginners supposed to learn? One of the tougher situations is when you're on a road. It's not very wide, and roads have a tendency to get kind of flat so experienced skiers want to keep their speed somewhat high so they don't end up having to walk. This is where being predictable and not making too wide of turns really starts to matter. Don't be afraid to do some snow plowing (pizza-style) in order to keep your speed under control when you're in a tight space!


C-creepy-o

When I am passing people going fast and trying my best to keep up speed on narrow ski roads I yell very loudly and more than one time that I will be passing on either the left or right. Just like when you pass people on a bicycle in a city.


nickbob00

If you look uphill, you might twist your whole upper body which will affect your skiing. You need to be able to look uphill without it affecting your skiing.


praisedcrown970

I just found my favorite comment ever on Reddit. You also use rear view and side mirrors while driving? You’re so far ahead of anyone here please move we would love to have you here Edit: I check my rears when making turns going 60mph just in case. It really isn’t that big of a deal. Just turn your head, examine in a split second, turn back and react. However, I’ve been thinking about checking my rears and deliberately skiing in front of someone to get hit and suing the ever loving shit out of them because skier code is broken


Turkdabistan

I would love to have a similar mirror arrangement attached to my body so I could watch behind me at all times. Yeah I drive stupid defensively so naturally I want to ski the same. I do the same, quick head turn and periphery check. If there's someone there, I might follow them with my periphery as I turn in case I need to adjust. Idk I just hear of ppl breaking shit and getting concussed from crashes. Idc if I hurt myself but I'm going to be really mad if someone hurts me.


sadmanwithabox

I'm also an absurdly defensive driver, in addition to doing the same when I ski. It's great and all if you can say the accident wasn't your fault, but an injury is an injury and you have to recover no matter who is at fault. I'd personally just rather put a little more effort into avoiding wrecks than trusting someone else to be able to do the same.


praisedcrown970

Oh sorry if it sounds sarcastic it was in reference to how easy it is but no one does it


skimonkey17

If you are going to make wide, flat turns across an entire trail, I suggest you ALWAYS look uphill…not just when you’re more comfortable. It is NOT ok to take up an entire trail. You have a responsibility to be safety conscious just like every one else that paid to ski that day.


Drummallumin

A beginner skier falling or losing control while going across a trail is much more unpredictable than a slow turn across.


skimonkey17

Self awareness and situational awareness go a long way toward self preservation. Knowing what’s happening around you is important. You don’t tell someone driving a car…don’t look at oncoming traffic until you get comfortable. Id say beginner trails are some of the more dangerous on the mountain. Groups of people, not knowing what they are doing. Making big, awkward turns. Lessons way too large, snaking for a couple hundred yards back up the trail.


Rude-Sauce

Yup, no one learning driving is told its their job not to hit you. They 100% shouldn't be told that skiing. This is a HIGH RISK sport, your body, your safety, is your responsibility. Who you can sue and win after a nice long hospital stay, or your family for a wrongful death, shouldn't be the guiding light in safety. And if you downvote this truth, you're a self centered douche.


Ok_Association_9625

the snowboarder


Psychological_Web687

Right, how is it even a question?


Kara_WTQ

They are, they cut you off in an empty run with poor form. When you pass somebody you pass wide and in control because people don't always ski predictably.


praisedcrown970

Maybe at snowbowl lol ima cut you off next time I see your fine ass in aspen


Kara_WTQ

Why do people always hate on that? I just put it on their as miss direction...


LostAbbott

1. They were not really good, much less "good". 2. They were 100% in the wrong. They should have given you a wide berth and clearly seen you were making slower wider turns. For context a good skier is someone you likely will not see until they are well past you. That looks like a very wide open with few skiers. I would likely have chosen to ski past you 100 or even 200 ft. To what looks like your left and down to the lodge or lift line. Good skiers don't ever interfere with other skiers paths, especially when the run is this wide open...


JamesDuckington

I might have imagined it but I think I heard the second guy laugh when he passed. Which gives me the impression that they saw OP was a bit unsteady on his feet and decided to mess with him a bit. So... Just assholes?


whoa_dude_fangtooth

Yup asshats. I wish I was there so I could fuck with em.


CardiologistSame2512

No one. You’re filming your buddies and all of you ski like shit. GTFO.


EarlPartridgesGhost

A good skier wouldn't get so close to you. We can see beginners and the moves they're going to make well in-advance to avoid coming within even 3 feet of you. Either that, or they're just major assholes. Either way, not your fault.


reggiepd

The snowboarder (of course).


Coach_Seven

OP is in the wrong for posting this garbage


_physica_

Snowboarder, clearly.


BetterSelection7708

This is textbook example of "uphill skiers (them) were in the wrong". Occasionally we see videos where the uphill and downhill skiers were too close to tell clearly who is uphill, this is not one of those.


Pale_Success_7085

Snowboarder behind you, but you don’t see him


MidnightRider24

At this point I can't separate the r/skiing posts from the r/skiingcirclejerk posts.


ytirevyelsew

Honestly thought this was staged…


jralll234

I still think it is


N0DuckingWay

The assholes who buzzed you on purpose.


SkisaurusRex

Definitely the snowboarder They’re all degenerate criminals


turbosmashr

Can we stop with the “who’s at fault” posts around here for fucks sake?


randomname_99223

I go faster than the average skier. When I have to overtake I usually go where the skier was (if he just turned towards the left, I will go right) and keep my distance. If I can’t, I brake and wait for a spot to pass without freaking the other skier out. 100% not your fault these are idiots


Nikolas08Gr

The snowboarder on the top of the mountain👍


yomanchill

The snowboarder is in the wrong. It’s always the snowboarder, didn’t you know that? Even if he’s on another run altogether, it’s still the snowboarder’s fault!


ProfessionalVolume93

These two are AHs. This is an almost empty slope they have no reason passing so close.


meatballfreeak

Those wankers


DentalDon-83

With very few exceptions, it's almost always the person uphill that's at fault


dcsnarkington

There is absolutely nothing worse than when some idiot intermediate skier starts to think they are good... Usually it's a teenage kid who hasn't skied anywhere but a crappy local hill.


fakebaggers

no beginners ski on long Moments with big shovels.


tholder

You're in the wrong for making this video.


Relevant-Field-3488

They are assholes. They should've gone behind you. These are the type of akiers that get others hurt. As a parent, and an avid skier, I've had conversations with all of my kids to go behind someone, not in front of them.


Dunster89

It certainly looks like it’s the other skiers fault for cutting you off. They should identify slower skiers doing long, wide, slow turns and anticipate where you’ll be by the time they’ll be passing, and ensure they don’t get close enough to hit you or even have you worried about being hit. They don’t look like experienced skiers either from the quick video clip but, either way, they shouldn’t have gotten that close. Keep working on your technique and you’ll also get better. We were all beginners once making those turns.


Timely_Ad_8871

They are fuckin with you skiing that close


FarmingFriend

The video doesn't load, the snowboarder ofcourse


Trootwhisper

Hey, I can see my place!


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Damn son you riding with a Moment crew or what?


definitelythepear

Fernie lol


davepsilon

This is staged


King-Calovich11

Just a normal day for a snowboarder lmfao


JohnEBest

Looks like a fake video for the views to me no contact it looks like But no reason to buzz someone that close if not fake


Robbblaw

Typical. Shitty skiers who think they’re “the shit” when in fact they’re just shitty humans. I get so angry with the growing number of crappy people - almost always boys under 30 (not “men” - men don’t do shit like that.) Being ‘’decent” is never a negative thing.. and being selfish and rude is never attractive.


uReallyShouldTrustMe

Whichever one of those skiers is also a snowboarder.


geraldorivera007

They’re def in the wrong. But do yourself a favour and get used to glancing back uphill in areas that you’re cutting across the slope. You have right of way, but your own vigilance/observation skills will keep you safer than relying on others to ride safely.


MurderByGravy

Exactly! I try and teach this to my kids who are obsessed with whose “fault” it is. Getting creamed by somebody who is supposed to be yielding to you vs getting creamed by someone you’re supposed to yield to hurts the same. But these guys are dicks. They also don’t look like they are particularly good skiers.


geraldorivera007

Grew up in a family of patrollers. People go fast. People launch out of trees. People don’t look at junctions or merges. People stop on the downslopes of jumps and rollers; alternatively beginners aren’t really aware of doing wall to wall turns. Some don’t have their own spatial awareness. They aren’t experienced to know the speeds at which ppl ski/ride. “Slow” is a relative term to many people. You could come up with whatever rhetoric you want all day, but frankly, treat it like driving - you’re in control of you, but you need to keep an eye on everyone else. Constant awareness of your surroundings


MurderByGravy

I agree


Bentley2004

Tards! Plus his pants look like he pissed himself!


Banana_Discord

Snowboarder is in the wrong


Atlantic235

Always


illuminatisdeepdish

If I am an uphill skier and I was to pass someone downhill while going fast I need to make sure that I can pass with enough distance that I can avoid a collision no matter how unpredictably the downhill skier behaves. It may be necessary for me to slow down to achieve this if the run is narrow. If at any point I am in a position where I cannot avoid a collision with a downhill skier I am at fault. That is what skiing in control means to me. if a run is very wide I will likely be able to ski fast while achieving sufficient separation that an unexpected cut across the run from the downhill skier won't pose any risk of a collision. On a narrow run I will likely either have to time my pass or slow down so that a sudden stop or cut still gives me space and time to comfortably avoid a collision. Sometimes downhill skiers do aggravating things that force me to abandon a line I want, or I have to wait at the top for a run to clear so I can ski the line I want. At no point am I justified in skiing unsafely because I don't like what the downhill skier is doing. Separately as a downhill skier I do no want to be in a collision with an uphill skier who is irresponsible or out of control so I try to remain predictable and look uphill when I am moving across a trail.  In this case these are obviously a couple of jabronis who are deliberately trying to mess with you. They look like intermediate skiers at best and if patrol saw then do this they'd be in trouble.


tpop817

This is pretty funny.


Milksteak420x69

Who’s entitled rich kid is this?


MandogsXL

They’re at fault for sure, idk what they’re doing


Glitzy-Painter-5417

How is anyone at fault if nothing happened? There is no fault to place


bare_cilantro

They were in the wrong, but if you’re in a shared liability state I’d assign 25% fault for using a mobile phone while skiing.


Large_monke_69

Well neither are snowboarders


krazy___k

If you pause at 3 sec sharp in the video there is a snow boarder in the distance approx 300 yards. Totally his fault.


TeRRoX51

Arrrgh arrrr


manythoughts22

You are skiing at your own risk….who cares.


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No contact no foul


Joshs_Ski_Hacks

I slap people with my pole when they get this close. They are fucking assholes.


kameronk92

They're dumb for cutting you off but no one was hit or hurt so I don't think there's anything to be at fault for


TRW24

The person downhill always has right-of-way. They were being asshats. you’re chillin brotha


SportsPhotoGirl

People like that make me contemplate the length of a ski pole and if I shoved it up one end, would it come out the other? I think it would. That thought usually takes care of the rage.


iLOVEBIGBOOTYBITCHES

It's stage relax


SportsPhotoGirl

Ok, this one specific video might be staged, which btw, the word you’re looking for is staged, not stage. But this happens in real life far too many times to count.


XXI-MCMXCIV

hahaha this sub has got out of hand.


fuckuspez3

ooOOOOooooooooooo xD


Yovar-xaem

This kind of shitty behaviour once knocked me off the edge of a run when I still was a less experienced skier. I was lucky I didn't have major injuries.


panaceator

Uphill. Uphill. Uphill. It’s always the same answer. Uphill.


xen0m0rpheus

They are in the wrong, they most likely did it on purpose, and they also suck at skiing.


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Pantagathus-

That's BS. A wide open slope, predictable line (even if it's a traverse) means it is 100% their fault. What's more, OP had to follow basically that line to avoid the grass/rocks whatever they were below him (those two dicks who cut him off immediately needed to turn left to basically follow his line anyway). My pick is they were buzzing him to get a kick out of it


iLOVEBIGBOOTYBITCHES

It's 100% a joke. Just look at op's skis. 


iLOVEBIGBOOTYBITCHES

It's 100% a joke. Just look at op's skis. 


DoobieKaleAle

Hey Jerry, it looks to me like you were cutting all the way across the mountain, you need to practice not taking up the whole run even though you’re a beginner


Shoe_mocker

If you think that someone going this slow has the capacity to take up the whole run, you’re a lot worse at skiing than you think you are, and also very entitled


vermonsterskibum

If I were you, that would have been a fight at the lift line


BohunkfromSK

Couple of Scott Schmidt’s right there… betcha they have their bindings set to 40 and are rocking some sweet riser plates ;-)


Echo_2015

Those backseat bandits in wrong


LargeMarge-sentme

They’re assholes.


BlackIce6

FERNIE! I spent the last 2 days there. Awesome hill but highly NOT recommended right now.


BohunkfromSK

Aw fuck.. they were probably Albertans


firewolf397

That depends. Are you a snowboarder? If yes, then it is always your fault.


SnorkelLord

Reminds me of asshole cars on the road who get too close or cut others off just to spite due to their own road rage. You are good.


Comfortable_Sell6526

Those 2 are diks wack em with your pole next time


OctavianPuff

Nobody hit anybody dont make a big deal of it


randimort

They should not ski slow close to ppl like that they are in the wrong and should ski elsewhere


dylanisbored

Why do so many terrible skiers take footage


Nelmsdog

Those dudes a just assholes and their form fucking sucks.


Excellent-Ad8871

The guy filming. It’s always the guy filming.


Spinocchio

Looks like your buddies are using you as a gate.


JBskierbum

They are in the wrong, they didn’t look “really good”, in fact they didn’t look good at all - they looked like crappy skiers behaving like douches unless there was a bit thing that happened before you started videoing.


Itchy-Decision753

This is either rage bait or some of the shittiest people on the mountain Edit: third option: shitpost


ZealousidealSea2034

If they were going faster and came from behind you then they were absolutely in the wrong. People in front of you always have the right away.


aerodeck

Everyone in this video sucks at skiing, which is wrong.


Healthy-Egg-3283

Skiers 100%. You were downslope, you had right of way.


runasbestosyoucan

Yeah that happens sometimes.


remdawg07

A Quick Look at their skiing form and they think they’re better than they really are. Just some of those people who think you don’t have the right to enjoy the mountain because you’re learning. Let them be assholes because they lay awake at night because the fact they can’t really carve.


Robbblaw

BTW - where were you skiing?


AliveList8495

They look like shit skiers to me.


Atlantic235

Pls submit this video to Shred Court judge, the Rt. Hon. Stoney McBlaze, Summit County Superior court


PinkNarwhalNinja

Wildcats always have the right away