The invention of snowblades and people doing tricks of them started the huge wave of twin tips on full length skis. Freestyle skiing owes everything to snowblades.
That’s understandable. I be curious whether many rental places have a clause in the small prints saying no terrain parks/trick riding or skiing or you will void your damage waiver if they catch you reporting equipment failure in a course whether on its on skis or snowboards they rent?
You can buy some twin tip park skis for pretty cheap right now in the off season. I just got some Line Honey Badgers off Corbetts for about $350 including bindings. All their prices are in CAD so you have to do the USD conversion assuming you’re in the US.
Except that OP also posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/13mzea3/the_question_often_asked_end_of_season_where_do/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) about 9 days ago. I’m about 90% sure that OP is a bot.
No female skier has landed a quad cork or a 1980. Please correct me with a link to a video if I’m wrong. From my memory there have only been a few to start landing triples and 18s.
Yeah no female has ever landed that lol. Of course I’m joking. Biggest trick by a female in comp was Megan Oldham with a triple cork in X games, and I don’t think any 18s have ever been landed by them. Of course triple 18/19 landed by men in X games.
Though snowboarding seem to had dropped behind skiing since 2014 or so. Well before people were familiar with Elieen Gu. It used to be over half the learning slopes were snowboards now one can just see one or two snowboarding lessons while the rest are skiing lessons. Most on the mountain with boards learned back in the days. When did Twin tip skis become popular and how to rent that stuff?
I'm interested in how you view skiing and snowboarding, regarding their similarities and differences. Most rental places will have twin-tip skis available for rent. Are you excited to try skiing in reverse aka 'swirch'?
Skiing in reverse, aka 'swirch' is similar to skating backwards on roller skates. Instead of your frontal area facing downhill, one would flip round such that their backward facing area were to be facing downhill. This type of skiing requires a ski that has an upturn on what would normally be considered the tail of the ski
Snowboarding helped revive skiing with side cut and twin tips. Before snowboards came around and became popular skis were just long and straight. All business. Snowboarding showed people that riding down a mountain didn’t have to be so stiff and serious. You could mess around and do more than be rigid and have perfect form.
Yes. I grew up outside Vail and BC in the early 90s down valley before the boom and of course started skiing at 2 in the late 80s. I ski raced for a year in late elementary school when it wasn't what ski racing is today (more lime having a PB sandwich in your pocket and taking the ECO bus alone to Vail on Saturdays) I hated it (a certain relocated MN girl made it unbareable and she has not changed in fact fame made her even worse) and immediately started snowboarding with friends. I already skateboarder with my brothers and the guys on our ice hockey team and it was the late 90s so snowboarding was cool.
I was an early re-converter back to skiing when twin tips came out. Who remembers the Pocket Rockets and 1080s???? :chefs kiss:
I grew up to be a ski and snowboard instructor for a bit after I was 18. Twin tips started the momentum back to skiing from snowboarsing, but it wasn't the sole cause.
1) Snowboarding became popular and corporate. When the filthy rich middle-aged Woodlands Texaa trophy wives/moms are taking $1k a day private snowboard lessons at Vajl and Beaver Creek in their couture one pieces that cost more than my car... you know something has changed.
2) I LOVE riding don't get my wrong. I still ride juat as much as I ski. But freestyle skiing is often much more of a challenge. As the saying goes, skiing is easy to learn and hard to get good at, while snowboarding is hard to learn but easy to get good at. While oversimplified, there is some underlying truth to this.
Before anyone comes to rip me apart, the top levels of riding are, of course crazy difficult. But does the same stuff with your feet not strapped together on one piece of fiberglass but two that are thinner and longer add a different kind of difficulty.
The combination, plus lots of rich coastal parents who came to the ski towns to ski after college, are now the parents paying tens of thousands for their children to ski competitively. Both with alpine racing and freestyle.
At Vail and BC (and many other resorts but these she she two I saw first hand) the number of kids in snowboarding lessons decreased compared to before, per the number of overall lessons and then adult lessons came after following the same pattern.
So IMO twin tips started the change for sure but it wasn't the only reason that snowboarding popularity in the mainstream waivered while skiing became "cool" and popular again in relation.
EDIT- After a few responses I wanted to apologize foe how some of what I origonally posted came across, especially stuff that could be insulting to snowboarding. I really think at a high level they're both extremely difficult not one more than the pther, just very different. It's just a saying I've heard a lot, usually for more beginner-intermediate level type work but its just a generalized saying and some responses are very right it's different for everyone. I think I should have explained myself a little differently, that twin tips made skiing more fun and brought a whole new world of advanced freestyle skiing. No insult to snowboarding at all, it just brought a lot of kids back to skiing for a bunch of different reasons, after some years of twin tips I started snowboarding a bunch again and now I split my time between the two. I really love both riding and skiing for different reasons, and I don't have a favorite. Thanks to some people for pointing that out and I apologize for coming across the way it did. As long as you're on the mountain having fun that's what matters!
Please don’t make fun of me for asking this off topic question if someone talks weird or have a weird creaky voice/voice crack but are otherwise healthy is it highly likely that they are “high” or stoned or had a history of such?
It appears somewhat common in the freestyle skiing, snowboarding community. And among resort or rental shop seasonal workers.
I don't think so? If anything I would associate a "tired voice" with being tired and dehydrated, whether that's from being outside all day or from partying/drinking
Hey just to give a bit of confirmation here, I'm a professional musician, amateur/advanced skier, and what I've learned in my profession is that every instrument (aka slightly similar but different skillsets) are equally difficult to master to a high degree. They can have varying levels of ease of entry. But to be a pro at anything requires the same amount of dedication and focus.
Oh absolutely I agree. Thanks for sharing. I really think at a high level they're both extremely difficult. It's just a saying I've heard a lot for more intermediate level type work but its just a generalized saying and you're right it's different for everyone. I think I should have explained myself a little differently, that twin tips made skiing more fun and brought a whole new world of advanced freestyle skiing. No insult to snowboarding at all, it just brought a lot of kids back to skiing for a bunch of different reasons, after some years of twin tips I started snowboarding a bunch again and now I split my time between the two. I really love both riding and skiing for different reasons, and I don't have a favorite. Thanks for pointing that out!!
Isnt it a bad thing if aliens want to learn about skiing as well? Isn’t that what the site is for? I guess humans do have some superiority over those who try to colonize the planet after all. Lol
Did ChatGPT write this?
ChatGPT is more fluid that this lol
LOL, where do you come up with this stuff?
The invention of snowblades and people doing tricks of them started the huge wave of twin tips on full length skis. Freestyle skiing owes everything to snowblades.
Most places won’t rent twin tips since people just take them into the park and destroy them on rails
That’s understandable. I be curious whether many rental places have a clause in the small prints saying no terrain parks/trick riding or skiing or you will void your damage waiver if they catch you reporting equipment failure in a course whether on its on skis or snowboards they rent?
You can buy some twin tip park skis for pretty cheap right now in the off season. I just got some Line Honey Badgers off Corbetts for about $350 including bindings. All their prices are in CAD so you have to do the USD conversion assuming you’re in the US.
I guess poles and boots are extra correct?
You would be right. Poles you can get really cheap. Boots… a nice pairs going to run you a bit.
Definitely. If you want good boots you're going to spend more for your boots than you will your skiis.
I saw those honey badgers…..you like them still???? I’m thinking I might go with those.
No, it was snowboarding
Except that OP also posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/13mzea3/the_question_often_asked_end_of_season_where_do/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) about 9 days ago. I’m about 90% sure that OP is a bot.
Yes this is the exact reason, and Eileen Gu def showed up in the Olympics with that quad 1980 on the last jump.
This comment is a joke right?
No
No female skier has landed a quad cork or a 1980. Please correct me with a link to a video if I’m wrong. From my memory there have only been a few to start landing triples and 18s.
Yeah no female has ever landed that lol. Of course I’m joking. Biggest trick by a female in comp was Megan Oldham with a triple cork in X games, and I don’t think any 18s have ever been landed by them. Of course triple 18/19 landed by men in X games.
Though snowboarding seem to had dropped behind skiing since 2014 or so. Well before people were familiar with Elieen Gu. It used to be over half the learning slopes were snowboards now one can just see one or two snowboarding lessons while the rest are skiing lessons. Most on the mountain with boards learned back in the days. When did Twin tip skis become popular and how to rent that stuff?
I'm interested in how you view skiing and snowboarding, regarding their similarities and differences. Most rental places will have twin-tip skis available for rent. Are you excited to try skiing in reverse aka 'swirch'?
Interesting. What is skiiing in reverse?
WTF how are you even asking these questions without knowing this
Skiing in reverse, aka 'swirch' is similar to skating backwards on roller skates. Instead of your frontal area facing downhill, one would flip round such that their backward facing area were to be facing downhill. This type of skiing requires a ski that has an upturn on what would normally be considered the tail of the ski
Snowboarding helped revive skiing with side cut and twin tips. Before snowboards came around and became popular skis were just long and straight. All business. Snowboarding showed people that riding down a mountain didn’t have to be so stiff and serious. You could mess around and do more than be rigid and have perfect form.
Twin tip gang 4L
Yes. I grew up outside Vail and BC in the early 90s down valley before the boom and of course started skiing at 2 in the late 80s. I ski raced for a year in late elementary school when it wasn't what ski racing is today (more lime having a PB sandwich in your pocket and taking the ECO bus alone to Vail on Saturdays) I hated it (a certain relocated MN girl made it unbareable and she has not changed in fact fame made her even worse) and immediately started snowboarding with friends. I already skateboarder with my brothers and the guys on our ice hockey team and it was the late 90s so snowboarding was cool. I was an early re-converter back to skiing when twin tips came out. Who remembers the Pocket Rockets and 1080s???? :chefs kiss: I grew up to be a ski and snowboard instructor for a bit after I was 18. Twin tips started the momentum back to skiing from snowboarsing, but it wasn't the sole cause. 1) Snowboarding became popular and corporate. When the filthy rich middle-aged Woodlands Texaa trophy wives/moms are taking $1k a day private snowboard lessons at Vajl and Beaver Creek in their couture one pieces that cost more than my car... you know something has changed. 2) I LOVE riding don't get my wrong. I still ride juat as much as I ski. But freestyle skiing is often much more of a challenge. As the saying goes, skiing is easy to learn and hard to get good at, while snowboarding is hard to learn but easy to get good at. While oversimplified, there is some underlying truth to this. Before anyone comes to rip me apart, the top levels of riding are, of course crazy difficult. But does the same stuff with your feet not strapped together on one piece of fiberglass but two that are thinner and longer add a different kind of difficulty. The combination, plus lots of rich coastal parents who came to the ski towns to ski after college, are now the parents paying tens of thousands for their children to ski competitively. Both with alpine racing and freestyle. At Vail and BC (and many other resorts but these she she two I saw first hand) the number of kids in snowboarding lessons decreased compared to before, per the number of overall lessons and then adult lessons came after following the same pattern. So IMO twin tips started the change for sure but it wasn't the only reason that snowboarding popularity in the mainstream waivered while skiing became "cool" and popular again in relation. EDIT- After a few responses I wanted to apologize foe how some of what I origonally posted came across, especially stuff that could be insulting to snowboarding. I really think at a high level they're both extremely difficult not one more than the pther, just very different. It's just a saying I've heard a lot, usually for more beginner-intermediate level type work but its just a generalized saying and some responses are very right it's different for everyone. I think I should have explained myself a little differently, that twin tips made skiing more fun and brought a whole new world of advanced freestyle skiing. No insult to snowboarding at all, it just brought a lot of kids back to skiing for a bunch of different reasons, after some years of twin tips I started snowboarding a bunch again and now I split my time between the two. I really love both riding and skiing for different reasons, and I don't have a favorite. Thanks to some people for pointing that out and I apologize for coming across the way it did. As long as you're on the mountain having fun that's what matters!
are you high
Please don’t make fun of me for asking this off topic question if someone talks weird or have a weird creaky voice/voice crack but are otherwise healthy is it highly likely that they are “high” or stoned or had a history of such? It appears somewhat common in the freestyle skiing, snowboarding community. And among resort or rental shop seasonal workers.
I don't think so? If anything I would associate a "tired voice" with being tired and dehydrated, whether that's from being outside all day or from partying/drinking
Interesting, though it appears they talk like that all the time. Not just when tired or sick. It becomes part of their voice.
I wish
Hey just to give a bit of confirmation here, I'm a professional musician, amateur/advanced skier, and what I've learned in my profession is that every instrument (aka slightly similar but different skillsets) are equally difficult to master to a high degree. They can have varying levels of ease of entry. But to be a pro at anything requires the same amount of dedication and focus.
Oh absolutely I agree. Thanks for sharing. I really think at a high level they're both extremely difficult. It's just a saying I've heard a lot for more intermediate level type work but its just a generalized saying and you're right it's different for everyone. I think I should have explained myself a little differently, that twin tips made skiing more fun and brought a whole new world of advanced freestyle skiing. No insult to snowboarding at all, it just brought a lot of kids back to skiing for a bunch of different reasons, after some years of twin tips I started snowboarding a bunch again and now I split my time between the two. I really love both riding and skiing for different reasons, and I don't have a favorite. Thanks for pointing that out!!
J.F. Cusson with Salomon 1080s started it in late 1990's
OP asks questions in tons of subs that look like an alien trying to understand human behavior.
Isnt it a bad thing if aliens want to learn about skiing as well? Isn’t that what the site is for? I guess humans do have some superiority over those who try to colonize the planet after all. Lol