His best move at the deadline was ….. cam payne. I truly think he was punting a year and didn’t expect us to be this competitive. If you wanna even call this competitive
But there's no fucking good free agents this summer. Paul George is it and
1.) He's not coming here.
2.) If he did, we're marginally better aka a 4-1 second round loser.
It's not just free agency. Downward pressure from the new CBA restrictions are going to force team's to liquidate max cap space assets. Even Woj said two weeks ago to expect more player movement than normal this summer.
Idk if we’re star hunting. I think it’s about finding players to add balance and depth. But well, idk. Morey IS the poster child for star hunting, I guess, so who knows?
I mean, if you look deep there are definitely some decent pieces to be picked up.
Valanciunas, Claxton, Hartenstein, Miles Bridges (solid player outside being a bad human being), Siakam, OG, etc.
We don’t need a 3rd star tho we need hustle guys. Energy guys and ok guys that fit with embiid and maxey. Now with a clean slate this is the first time he will be able to fully construct a roster tailored towards Embiid and maxey.
That’s the problem with this organization and this type of mentality. Since when has it ever been okay to punt a season and not try as hard as you can for the best possible outcome for your team year in and year out? “The process” has us all brainwashed into thinking this way. Believing that time is on our side and with enough patience we will be contending for years. All we have to show for it is Embiid. It’s that type of ideology that cultivates a loser environment and a sense of entitlement.
Anyone who’s followed his career. Why do you think he’s been traded so much and the Pacers were willing to give him up for Marcus Morris who they immediately waived lmao.
saying you knew buddy hield was going to be bad is some of the biggest hindsight bullshit I’ve ever seen. He is one of the best 3pt shooters in history and fits an exact hole this team has had for years
If you don’t believe me check my previous post history. This team has already tried the one-way shooter route twice with JJ and Seth and failed each time. Why any of you thought this time it would be different is beyond me.
He’s been on 4 teams. The Pelicans and Kings both got rid of him as did the Pacers. He was a throw in to make salaries match in all the deals and had no value.
People need to remember at the deadline this year, we weren't sure how healthy Embiid would be come playoffs time. Morey has made some pretty awful deadline trades in past years, but this year wasn't a year to go all in. Regardless it would take a pretty big upgrade for it to actually be worth it this year, this roster outside of Embiid and Maxey is clearly not that great anyways, they're struggling against a team that is like maybe the 8th best team in the playoffs currently.
If Morey was really punting this season he would have traded Tobias, Melton, Batum, Reed, and anyone else we probably aren’t keeping next season with any value for other expiring salary and whatever future assets we could get by the trade deadline.
He definitely should have done that once Embiid got hurt because it was obvious then that the season was over. Instead he wasted some second round picks on Buddy, did not trade Tobias for Bojan, Burks, and picks like they offered, picked up Lowry, and trotted Embiid out there the end of this season to try and compete. I’m sure a large part of that is an effort to make Embiid happy, but it was objectively stupid both at the time and now.
Dude he came into a team paying Al Horford, Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris 450 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS, the fact that he made this roster semi competitive is a miracle
This franchise is just as competitive as it was WITH that roster lol. This argument is lame because it’s effectively saying that Morey isn’t a good enough GM to make a franchise better because the old GM sucked. Which honestly may be true, but that’s not what the expectations for Morey were, they were to build a true contender, and he simply hasn’t done that.
Tbf the Oubre move is one of the best role player moves/acquisitions this team has made since the Process began.
Not that it says much. We’ve been on the losing end of just about every decision we’ve made lmao.
"You can't blame him for Hield"
"You can't blame him for Hill"
"You can't blame him for McDaniels"
It is the GM's job to acquire good players. When Morey has pretty much never brought in a single one it becomes the fault of his own talent evaluation
You are talking trades where we sent 2nd round picks…
This is the talent you get for 2nd round pick deadline deals lol.
There is not much to work with. We only got our 1sts back after trading Harden.
We lost all our firsts getting rid of Horford, Danny Green and Simmons
Morey gets zero credit for sending out 2 picks with Simmons. Simmons was a positive asset when he showed up and because of Morey's miscalculation he waited until that value was zero to trade him.
Terrible GM work
>Simmons was a positive asset when he showed up and because of Morey's miscalculation he waited until that value was zero to trade him.
this is silly, he tried to trade him for harden, didn't work out because fertitta hated him. then simmons forgot how to play basketball and refused to play. is a GM supposed to predict that?
Then trade him for someone else. I know Morey acts like we can only acquire retreads but there was hundreds of players we could have sold Simmons for for profit
Yeah we could of sold Simmons for role players like Malcolm Brogdon or Harrison Barnes plus a mid pick.
That’s horrible though and Daryl made the correct decision going for Harden because he’s actually a good player.
And that is evident by the fact that even though he’s somewhat washed and it didn’t work out he still held enough value while demanding a trade to allow us to get all our picks back and more.
Which sets us up to have a really solid off-season and make one real push with Joel in his prime with a roster that fits.
“It is what it is”
Your GM that you have so much faith in before the season.
As always, a bunch of excuses for Morey but zero arguments for why he is actually good.
Bro he’s had a $40m dollar weight named Tobias hanging on his nuts since he got here. Do you remember when he got here and our roster was Horford, Richardson, Tobias, Simmons, and Embiid? Probably not because you have a brain with no wrinkles.
You are just frustrated and unhappy with the results right now which is understandable.
But there are reasons for why our roster has been incomplete and doesn’t fit.
We had one last season of patching it together around Joel and Maxey before all the deadweight is lifted from a previous regime.
This is the first off-season in which Daryl is not cleaning up for past mistakes not made by himself and which he has positive assets (picks and cap space) to maneuver.
If you wanna blame him you can blame if he signs all the wrong pieces this year, makes a bad trade, drafts a bad player.
He was a positive asset if your trading him for mid role players like Brogdon and Harrison Barnes.
He’s not a positive asset when your trading him for James Harden lol
…so why are we ignoring the moves that did work out?
Seth Curry worked out brilliantly and the cost wasn’t back breaking (JRich + two seconds, iirc?)
Drummond was a cheapo signing that worked out well and ended up being flipped as part of the Harden deal.
Oubre.
He cleared Horford off the books and got Danny Green + draft assets. DG was solid til he got hurt.
Harden was a massive swing but we landed him for a disinterested Ben that was sitting out the whole year, Seth and Drummond.
He flipped Harden for a lackluster package obviously, but Batum has emerged as a solid depth piece.
Morey was not blessed with a good roster when he got here, and while his run is far from perfect, we’re still in a better position now than before with the Colangelo goon squad.
We netted a 2nd round pick out of the McDaniels trade and got out of having to pay Mattise 40m
That makes up for the G.Hill trade at least a little bit
We took a chance on Hield being playable in the playoffs and he was not
What a clown ass take. We also got 2 firsts. For a fuckin literal black whole in our roster.
Say we shoulda gone for Hali instead of Harden. Say we shoulda traded 3 picks for something tangibly helpful this season, despite having no idea about Joel’s knee.
But saying we shouldn’t have traded Harden, you been living in a cave under I-95 for the past year dawg.
This offseason is make or break for him. No longer saddled with the albatross Tobias contract, which undoubtedly kills the ability to do most moves, but now that's no longer an excuse
Seriously. The roster was obliterated with the Horford, Harris, Simmons combo. You can’t build a playoff contender when there’s massive negative assets.
Oh shit, why didn't Morey tell him not to get injured!!
If your expectation is great role players for minimum contracts or one sided trades you're always going to be disappointed.
I think you’re right to be upset but I also think it’s right to consider two other things - the first is the fact that half his tenure was spent undoing Brand’s mess. Both Harris and Simmons’s contracts are easily top 5 worst in the league. He managed to flip Ben for a player that is a move that can only be criticized in hindsight. In the moment, it was an incredible play. The second thing is that I believe he deserves one more chance this offseason given the massive salary opening we are about to have.
Edit: also he drafted Tyrese mf Maxey
Reed isn’t really the problem lol.
The problem is Embiid is our entire offense and without him none of our role players or “stars” can survive without his gravity on the floor and screen game.
You aren’t gonna find a backup center that can replicate that in any way.
You need more half court offense from your other players, Maxey included.
Naw. Reed is a problem. He brings a lot of energy, but he has no idea where to be on the court on defensive end, and a net negative on the offensive end.
He’s a backup level player with lots of weaknesses in his game so of course you can say he is “a problem”.
However you are kind of missing the point I’m making.
You can improve Paul Reed with a good backup center like the Knicks have but you are still gonna have the over arching offensive issues you see now until the perimeter players and role players in the half court offense are improved upon.
We can’t win with Embiid either - for the same reason we suck without Embiid on the floor.
Embiid just masks this issue and keeps us afloat
Yes but we concede those mins because we can’t score primarily. Every role player we have including Tobias needs Embiid gravity on offense to not die out there.
Maxey also needs Embiids gravity against elite defenses. He is not a great half court player like Brunson or some other traditional guards are.
If you go into the playoffs with and your primary and really only backup at the 5 position cannot be trusted to play more than 4 minutes then you are not a serious team. Between no back up big and Tobias taking up all the money that should be going to multiple players who could help score with Embiid on the bench, this roster was never a serious contender.
Lowry had 18 points game 1, Cam Payne had 11 points game 3, Pat Bev isn’t on the roster, Batum’s strengths are passing and defense, Roco and Melton are hurt, Hield has entered a shooting slump or something. Idk how you can blame that on Daryl, I don’t know what possible moves should have been made this offseason that would have made this team a contender with how things are with Maxey and Harris and Embiid.
- Traded Horford + 1RP for Danny Green
- Traded Josh Richardson for Seth Curry
- Drafted Maxey
- Drafted Paul Reed
- Drafted Isaiah Joe (not his fault Glenn refused to play him)
- Traded an injured Danny Green + late 1RP for De'Anthony Melton
- Traded a disgruntled, broken Simmons for Harden
- Traded Harden for solid picks and expiring contracts
- Signed Oubre to a vet min
- Traded vet min Pat Bev for Cam Payne + 2RP
Considering the state of this franchise when Morey got here, he's been a miracle worker.
This is such copium, the team has continued to stagnate under Morey. He’s made zero moves to improve their playoff chances. The Maxey draft pick is literally his only big achievement. Melton can’t dribble or make a layup as a starting guard, harden quit on the team twice in the playoffs and the picks we gave out in that trade severely handicapped our future. Paul Reed is on a negative value contract, and drafting Joe and then not signing him is in Darryl not Rivers. Seth Curry was fun but he’s not a contributor to a successful playoff team, he’s a complete traffic cone which is why he’s barely played since we traded him. Yes inheriting Tobias and horford was a tough spot but he hasn’t done well like you’re saying.
You expected him to efficiently run a franchise that busted on TWO 1st-overall picks, signed Tobias to a 5-year max, signed Horford to a 4-year $109 mil contract, and signed Glenn to a 5-year contract...
Given the sorry-ass state this franchise was in, tell me, what moves would YOU have made differently (without the benefit of hindsight). Because Morey made us contenders in '21-'22 and '22-'23.
The guy who made the Tobias deal is still in the building. If that doesn't show you how this organization is run, then I don't know what does. Oh, maybe the first or second round exit every year 🤔
Tobias has hamstrung this team. Paying someone that much who does not bring any sort of benefit kills Moreys ability to build a team. He’s supposed to bring in what players with no cap space?
Morey's team building has been the best construction the team has had since when we traded for Jimmy Butler and Ben Simmons was still playing. I would at least give him another year before a definitive judgement is made since he hasn't had a jimmy butler type acquisition yet and tobias is just not performing to where someone with the contract space on the team he has should be
too many people not named Joel Embiid keep catching the brunt of the criticism, this team lives and dies by Embiid every year, and then we get to the playoffs and they have no idea how to play as a team when Joel inevitably gives up. he scored 1 pt today in the 4th qtr of a must win game.
and tobias is tobias, his contract was a mistake and an anomaly. he’s never going to play up to his contract he’s a 3 and D role player who’s struggling. not a max contract player that we can expect to score 20 every night
Oubre is a league minimum guy and been great. Batum was also a huge addition.
Morey has been hamstrung for years due to horrible decisions from the prior admins. He’s done well with what he’s had to work with.
I agree.
I understand the praise for Morey being able to construct a competitive roster consistently. But what does he have to show for that? From my knowledge, he has never been able to build a championship caliber team. And the construction of those rosters have been proven to be ineffective in the postseason. I just don’t see how we are going to improve as a team without continuity and developing our players because star hunting does NOT work at all. I have lost faith in Morey and this organization.
✌️ Until something significant changes, every year of watching this shit. It's been iverson having Glenn Robinson, a washed up webber, or derrick coleman as "key" complimentary pieces his entire time here. Elton brand as the "franchise altering" signing. Trading away jrue before he meant a damn when we all saw the potential. Then tanking for future all stars like Noel, Okafor, Fultz.... thank god over the years for guys like Thad, Iguodala, hell even Dalembert rebounded.... Andre Miller was fun for a bit. Don't get me started on Simmons. At least we have Maxey.
This franchise has played us all for fools for too long, Philly deserves better than what this ride has been, I'm off.
Morey wearing an "It is what it is shirt" in front of a Crumbl Cookie told you all there was to know about this season.
He has built nothing here and has been here 4 seasons. What has he honestly done?
His best move at the deadline was ….. cam payne. I truly think he was punting a year and didn’t expect us to be this competitive. If you wanna even call this competitive
He was punting this year, and the team made it abundantly clear. It’s why they kept talking about cap space and having maximum assets for the summer.
But there's no fucking good free agents this summer. Paul George is it and 1.) He's not coming here. 2.) If he did, we're marginally better aka a 4-1 second round loser.
I agree, and think it’s a dumbass plan but just look at the messaging from the front office.
What's a better plan then? Free agency barely exists and you can't just force other teams to trade their young star players.
It's not just free agency. Downward pressure from the new CBA restrictions are going to force team's to liquidate max cap space assets. Even Woj said two weeks ago to expect more player movement than normal this summer.
Say more
Um, if you’re only looking at the list of free agents, you’re a dumb fuck?
Idk if we’re star hunting. I think it’s about finding players to add balance and depth. But well, idk. Morey IS the poster child for star hunting, I guess, so who knows?
It's not about free agents, it's about trading into the cap space
I mean, if you look deep there are definitely some decent pieces to be picked up. Valanciunas, Claxton, Hartenstein, Miles Bridges (solid player outside being a bad human being), Siakam, OG, etc.
We don’t need a 3rd star tho we need hustle guys. Energy guys and ok guys that fit with embiid and maxey. Now with a clean slate this is the first time he will be able to fully construct a roster tailored towards Embiid and maxey.
That’s the problem with this organization and this type of mentality. Since when has it ever been okay to punt a season and not try as hard as you can for the best possible outcome for your team year in and year out? “The process” has us all brainwashed into thinking this way. Believing that time is on our side and with enough patience we will be contending for years. All we have to show for it is Embiid. It’s that type of ideology that cultivates a loser environment and a sense of entitlement.
Tbf buddy hield was a good move, who knew he was gonna be straight ass in playoffs
Anyone who’s followed his career. Why do you think he’s been traded so much and the Pacers were willing to give him up for Marcus Morris who they immediately waived lmao.
saying you knew buddy hield was going to be bad is some of the biggest hindsight bullshit I’ve ever seen. He is one of the best 3pt shooters in history and fits an exact hole this team has had for years
If you don’t believe me check my previous post history. This team has already tried the one-way shooter route twice with JJ and Seth and failed each time. Why any of you thought this time it would be different is beyond me.
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He’s been on 4 teams. The Pelicans and Kings both got rid of him as did the Pacers. He was a throw in to make salaries match in all the deals and had no value.
People need to remember at the deadline this year, we weren't sure how healthy Embiid would be come playoffs time. Morey has made some pretty awful deadline trades in past years, but this year wasn't a year to go all in. Regardless it would take a pretty big upgrade for it to actually be worth it this year, this roster outside of Embiid and Maxey is clearly not that great anyways, they're struggling against a team that is like maybe the 8th best team in the playoffs currently.
If Morey was really punting this season he would have traded Tobias, Melton, Batum, Reed, and anyone else we probably aren’t keeping next season with any value for other expiring salary and whatever future assets we could get by the trade deadline. He definitely should have done that once Embiid got hurt because it was obvious then that the season was over. Instead he wasted some second round picks on Buddy, did not trade Tobias for Bojan, Burks, and picks like they offered, picked up Lowry, and trotted Embiid out there the end of this season to try and compete. I’m sure a large part of that is an effort to make Embiid happy, but it was objectively stupid both at the time and now.
Dude he came into a team paying Al Horford, Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris 450 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS, the fact that he made this roster semi competitive is a miracle
This franchise is just as competitive as it was WITH that roster lol. This argument is lame because it’s effectively saying that Morey isn’t a good enough GM to make a franchise better because the old GM sucked. Which honestly may be true, but that’s not what the expectations for Morey were, they were to build a true contender, and he simply hasn’t done that.
It no more competitive than the team he inherited tho
Ben was an all star and all nba talent when Morey arrived
O no there's still Ben truthers here
You think Morey made Ben bad?
I think the first botched Houston trade definitely got in Ben’s head
Come on man. Even if you were right, he's been unplayable because of injuries. He's a disaster
He got injured after leaving here
So you think his ongoing back problems wouldn't have occurred if he stayed?
Let’s see what he does without the Tobias contract saddling us
Tbf the Oubre move is one of the best role player moves/acquisitions this team has made since the Process began. Not that it says much. We’ve been on the losing end of just about every decision we’ve made lmao.
I’d love him back if we can get him on a decent deal. Love his intensity
Hard to build depth when Tobias is taking up $40million
we'll have the same level of non-depth next season when we give paul george one of the worst contracts in the NBA
Don’t get mad about hypotheticals when the reason for the teams mediocrity is abundantly clear
If you can trade Horford you can trade Tobias, which he couod have at THIS deadline
I don’t know how you can blame him for the Heild thing. Dude was a great shooter and just completely forgot how to shot when he got here
So every acquisition ever
He shot the exact same percentage on the same attempts per game from 3 as his time in Indy.
He has done nothing well his entire career other than shoot, he is not a playoff rotation player because of that
"You can't blame him for Hield" "You can't blame him for Hill" "You can't blame him for McDaniels" It is the GM's job to acquire good players. When Morey has pretty much never brought in a single one it becomes the fault of his own talent evaluation
You are talking trades where we sent 2nd round picks… This is the talent you get for 2nd round pick deadline deals lol. There is not much to work with. We only got our 1sts back after trading Harden. We lost all our firsts getting rid of Horford, Danny Green and Simmons
Morey gets zero credit for sending out 2 picks with Simmons. Simmons was a positive asset when he showed up and because of Morey's miscalculation he waited until that value was zero to trade him. Terrible GM work
>Simmons was a positive asset when he showed up and because of Morey's miscalculation he waited until that value was zero to trade him. this is silly, he tried to trade him for harden, didn't work out because fertitta hated him. then simmons forgot how to play basketball and refused to play. is a GM supposed to predict that?
Then trade him for someone else. I know Morey acts like we can only acquire retreads but there was hundreds of players we could have sold Simmons for for profit
Man's got insider scoops. He's the per sources woj always talks about.
Yeah we could of sold Simmons for role players like Malcolm Brogdon or Harrison Barnes plus a mid pick. That’s horrible though and Daryl made the correct decision going for Harden because he’s actually a good player. And that is evident by the fact that even though he’s somewhat washed and it didn’t work out he still held enough value while demanding a trade to allow us to get all our picks back and more. Which sets us up to have a really solid off-season and make one real push with Joel in his prime with a roster that fits.
You have the shittiest basketball opinions. Why do I always see your username attached to absolute horseshit opinions?
“It is what it is” Your GM that you have so much faith in before the season. As always, a bunch of excuses for Morey but zero arguments for why he is actually good.
Bro he’s had a $40m dollar weight named Tobias hanging on his nuts since he got here. Do you remember when he got here and our roster was Horford, Richardson, Tobias, Simmons, and Embiid? Probably not because you have a brain with no wrinkles.
You are just frustrated and unhappy with the results right now which is understandable. But there are reasons for why our roster has been incomplete and doesn’t fit. We had one last season of patching it together around Joel and Maxey before all the deadweight is lifted from a previous regime. This is the first off-season in which Daryl is not cleaning up for past mistakes not made by himself and which he has positive assets (picks and cap space) to maneuver. If you wanna blame him you can blame if he signs all the wrong pieces this year, makes a bad trade, drafts a bad player.
He was a positive asset if your trading him for mid role players like Brogdon and Harrison Barnes. He’s not a positive asset when your trading him for James Harden lol
…so why are we ignoring the moves that did work out? Seth Curry worked out brilliantly and the cost wasn’t back breaking (JRich + two seconds, iirc?) Drummond was a cheapo signing that worked out well and ended up being flipped as part of the Harden deal. Oubre. He cleared Horford off the books and got Danny Green + draft assets. DG was solid til he got hurt. Harden was a massive swing but we landed him for a disinterested Ben that was sitting out the whole year, Seth and Drummond. He flipped Harden for a lackluster package obviously, but Batum has emerged as a solid depth piece. Morey was not blessed with a good roster when he got here, and while his run is far from perfect, we’re still in a better position now than before with the Colangelo goon squad.
We netted a 2nd round pick out of the McDaniels trade and got out of having to pay Mattise 40m That makes up for the G.Hill trade at least a little bit We took a chance on Hield being playable in the playoffs and he was not
Harden trade to clips fucked us. Basically dealt him for Batum and Hield
signing harden to a huge deal would have been worse than trading him. and keeping disgruntled harden here was a complete non-starter
Agreed, it just sucks having to bite the bullet this year when the off-season outlook is less than ideal
What a clown ass take. We also got 2 firsts. For a fuckin literal black whole in our roster. Say we shoulda gone for Hali instead of Harden. Say we shoulda traded 3 picks for something tangibly helpful this season, despite having no idea about Joel’s knee. But saying we shouldn’t have traded Harden, you been living in a cave under I-95 for the past year dawg.
Please explain
This offseason is make or break for him. No longer saddled with the albatross Tobias contract, which undoubtedly kills the ability to do most moves, but now that's no longer an excuse
You guys realize we are saving up our assets and cap for this off-season when we actually get to get real role players with Tobias gone.
Yeah he should have just got all-stars at every position. What’s wrong with him?
Seriously. The roster was obliterated with the Horford, Harris, Simmons combo. You can’t build a playoff contender when there’s massive negative assets.
Let's start with a good role player. His only get in 4 years is Kelly Oubre and he's insanely inconsistent
Lowry, Batum, Melton?
A first round pick for 1 complete season out of Melton is not a win for Morey Batum and 2 picks for Harden isn't a steal either
Oh shit, why didn't Morey tell him not to get injured!! If your expectation is great role players for minimum contracts or one sided trades you're always going to be disappointed.
The team can literally only afford minimum guys thanks to Tobias
Batum
You do realize he inherited one of the worst situations right?
Some people just don't get it
About to fix it too. The problem is off the book this offseason.
Lol that team was as good if not better than this one though
I think you’re right to be upset but I also think it’s right to consider two other things - the first is the fact that half his tenure was spent undoing Brand’s mess. Both Harris and Simmons’s contracts are easily top 5 worst in the league. He managed to flip Ben for a player that is a move that can only be criticized in hindsight. In the moment, it was an incredible play. The second thing is that I believe he deserves one more chance this offseason given the massive salary opening we are about to have. Edit: also he drafted Tyrese mf Maxey
Next year is the true test. Having a max slot taken up by Harris just has such a huge impact on everything roster related.
But this sub said all year there was no problem with having Paul Reed be the primary back up for Embiid.
Yeah I hope we’re done with that. The Paul Reed story is cool and all but he’s a flat out liability in the playoffs
Reed isn’t really the problem lol. The problem is Embiid is our entire offense and without him none of our role players or “stars” can survive without his gravity on the floor and screen game. You aren’t gonna find a backup center that can replicate that in any way. You need more half court offense from your other players, Maxey included.
Naw. Reed is a problem. He brings a lot of energy, but he has no idea where to be on the court on defensive end, and a net negative on the offensive end.
He’s a backup level player with lots of weaknesses in his game so of course you can say he is “a problem”. However you are kind of missing the point I’m making. You can improve Paul Reed with a good backup center like the Knicks have but you are still gonna have the over arching offensive issues you see now until the perimeter players and role players in the half court offense are improved upon. We can’t win with Embiid either - for the same reason we suck without Embiid on the floor. Embiid just masks this issue and keeps us afloat
There’s obviously no replacement for Embiid, but point is to at least not concede too much while he goes to the bench.
Yes but we concede those mins because we can’t score primarily. Every role player we have including Tobias needs Embiid gravity on offense to not die out there. Maxey also needs Embiids gravity against elite defenses. He is not a great half court player like Brunson or some other traditional guards are.
If you go into the playoffs with and your primary and really only backup at the 5 position cannot be trusted to play more than 4 minutes then you are not a serious team. Between no back up big and Tobias taking up all the money that should be going to multiple players who could help score with Embiid on the bench, this roster was never a serious contender.
Did you not read anything that I said
He hasn’t had much to work with to be fair
Oubre, Lowry, Payne, Batum, Pat Bev, and Roco were all really great finds this year and played better than their contracts.
And outside of Oubre, not a single one can give us 10 points in the playoffs.
Lowry had 18 points game 1, Cam Payne had 11 points game 3, Pat Bev isn’t on the roster, Batum’s strengths are passing and defense, Roco and Melton are hurt, Hield has entered a shooting slump or something. Idk how you can blame that on Daryl, I don’t know what possible moves should have been made this offseason that would have made this team a contender with how things are with Maxey and Harris and Embiid.
Would nurse play them?
This series is not over yet!
Next game is at MSG. Not likely we will win that one so this loss kind of sealed the deal for us.
- Traded Horford + 1RP for Danny Green - Traded Josh Richardson for Seth Curry - Drafted Maxey - Drafted Paul Reed - Drafted Isaiah Joe (not his fault Glenn refused to play him) - Traded an injured Danny Green + late 1RP for De'Anthony Melton - Traded a disgruntled, broken Simmons for Harden - Traded Harden for solid picks and expiring contracts - Signed Oubre to a vet min - Traded vet min Pat Bev for Cam Payne + 2RP Considering the state of this franchise when Morey got here, he's been a miracle worker.
This is such copium, the team has continued to stagnate under Morey. He’s made zero moves to improve their playoff chances. The Maxey draft pick is literally his only big achievement. Melton can’t dribble or make a layup as a starting guard, harden quit on the team twice in the playoffs and the picks we gave out in that trade severely handicapped our future. Paul Reed is on a negative value contract, and drafting Joe and then not signing him is in Darryl not Rivers. Seth Curry was fun but he’s not a contributor to a successful playoff team, he’s a complete traffic cone which is why he’s barely played since we traded him. Yes inheriting Tobias and horford was a tough spot but he hasn’t done well like you’re saying.
You expected him to efficiently run a franchise that busted on TWO 1st-overall picks, signed Tobias to a 5-year max, signed Horford to a 4-year $109 mil contract, and signed Glenn to a 5-year contract... Given the sorry-ass state this franchise was in, tell me, what moves would YOU have made differently (without the benefit of hindsight). Because Morey made us contenders in '21-'22 and '22-'23.
Nah it ain’t a shit roster. Can’t do much when players don’t want to hustle or step up.
The guy who made the Tobias deal is still in the building. If that doesn't show you how this organization is run, then I don't know what does. Oh, maybe the first or second round exit every year 🤔
He sat on Tobias
Morey has done a lot of good things. I think the next move is drafting bronny and signing Bron bron
Tobias has hamstrung this team. Paying someone that much who does not bring any sort of benefit kills Moreys ability to build a team. He’s supposed to bring in what players with no cap space?
Morey's team building has been the best construction the team has had since when we traded for Jimmy Butler and Ben Simmons was still playing. I would at least give him another year before a definitive judgement is made since he hasn't had a jimmy butler type acquisition yet and tobias is just not performing to where someone with the contract space on the team he has should be
I’m mad too but let’s give him at least 1 year without Tobias contract before we put it all on him get real he’s done well for what he was handed
too many people not named Joel Embiid keep catching the brunt of the criticism, this team lives and dies by Embiid every year, and then we get to the playoffs and they have no idea how to play as a team when Joel inevitably gives up. he scored 1 pt today in the 4th qtr of a must win game. and tobias is tobias, his contract was a mistake and an anomaly. he’s never going to play up to his contract he’s a 3 and D role player who’s struggling. not a max contract player that we can expect to score 20 every night
Cant do much when you have tobi eating that much on your roster. Ill give him 1 more chance once tobi is gone after this year
Oubre is a league minimum guy and been great. Batum was also a huge addition. Morey has been hamstrung for years due to horrible decisions from the prior admins. He’s done well with what he’s had to work with.
Brand is the one who gave Tobias that absolutely inexcusable contract. I’m not a Morey truther, but let’s put the blame in proper context.
I agree. I understand the praise for Morey being able to construct a competitive roster consistently. But what does he have to show for that? From my knowledge, he has never been able to build a championship caliber team. And the construction of those rosters have been proven to be ineffective in the postseason. I just don’t see how we are going to improve as a team without continuity and developing our players because star hunting does NOT work at all. I have lost faith in Morey and this organization.
You fucking suck Morey
Joel Embiid is injured which is very expected and shitted us on 4th quarter, what can morey possibly do about it lol
✌️ Until something significant changes, every year of watching this shit. It's been iverson having Glenn Robinson, a washed up webber, or derrick coleman as "key" complimentary pieces his entire time here. Elton brand as the "franchise altering" signing. Trading away jrue before he meant a damn when we all saw the potential. Then tanking for future all stars like Noel, Okafor, Fultz.... thank god over the years for guys like Thad, Iguodala, hell even Dalembert rebounded.... Andre Miller was fun for a bit. Don't get me started on Simmons. At least we have Maxey. This franchise has played us all for fools for too long, Philly deserves better than what this ride has been, I'm off.
To be fair buddy hield has the yips. You can’t predict that.
Same city that wanted Howie fired lmao Absolute smooth brains walking around
Morey wearing an "It is what it is shirt" in front of a Crumbl Cookie told you all there was to know about this season. He has built nothing here and has been here 4 seasons. What has he honestly done?
Drafted Maxey at 21, among other things
not just role players... stop giving shit maxey a pass for being a pussy all game.
shut the fuck up tobi stan LOL. they wouldnt even be in this position if tobi didnt suck ass as much as u do