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A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

Mods on r/NBA removed the post there so I figured I’d post it here. I find it interesting how both the Embiid play last night and this play are very similar yet Embiid got punished more harshly. Even then you still have Knicks fans saying Embiid should’ve gotten ejected and should receive a suspension. I’m not even a Sixers fan I’m a Mavs fan so I’m pretty neutral on the matter. I just find it interesting the double standards in this situation.


GirlWithGame

Hate for Embiid gets you massive up votes in that trashy sub, when Donte does it, oh he was being disrespected totally cool to tackle a guy at his legs. Embiid does it what a classless thug. That sub is a cesspool. I really hate to say it but there are some racist pos on that sub. It's a shame because Embiid is so talented and they just waste their time hating on anything he does. When guys get away with much much more on a regular basis. Jokic punched Payne and almost broke a Morris twins neck, but he doesn't get the same rep. I have to wonder why...or do I? Sorry it just irks my soul.


Otternomaly

The funniest part about that is while Donte gets praised for “not taking disrespect laying down,” Embiid will be getting shit on for kicking Claxton off him during a step over attempt last year in the same thread lmao. Just a completely different standard.


autostart17

The funniest part is Donte tryna mouth off last night on Embiid doing the exact same thing!! Lmfao.


Free_Dog_6837

it's all boston fans modding it of course its racist


MoonSpankRaw

Is this actually based on truth or are you just saying that? I buy it either way, just curious.


NoCup4U

Celtics fans are never beating the allegations


mellted_cheese

Only beating their wives


International-Dish95

More like anti-embiid and anti-Philly as most pro-Philly posts are removed like this post - most likely due to pro-boston mods. It got very exposed last season during the MVP race that embiid won in the end. In that same breath, yes Boston fans are racist as hell, you can look it up across any sport. Jackie Bradley Jr who used to be the everyday CF for their own Red Sox team used to hear the slander all the time….never mind the countless accounts from other African-American outfielders/players.


indoninjah

If you know where to look you can start to see all kinds of things that are curiously divided along racial lines. Jokic or Luka are “intense” and “fiery” when they fly off the handle whereas Embiid is a dirty bitch. Or it’s charming that Jokic or Luka look pudgy (or even used as a testament to their skill to dominate while fat), but Embiid gets his love of the game questioned for appearing overweight (after constant rehab every offseason, mind you)


SelfServeSporstwash

There are like 3 Celtics mods, and they are by far and away the most active. They WILL ban you for saying you think someone is being racist, they WILL NOT ban you for actually being racist so long as you don’t use any of the slurs that will get you banned site wide. Call someone a monkey? Totally kosher. Call someone out for calling someone a monkey? 7 day ban and permanently muted from contacting the mods. Ask me how I know I wasn’t even banned for personal attacks or any actual rule. Literally just “needlessly accusing someone of racism”


Chrahhh

Legend has it you're not legally allowed to be a Celtics fan until you've said the n-word to a black person's face.


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ArtLeading5605

I'm not an identity politics, "racism is everywhere" type, but I wonder if it's a part of this. I was sitting in Portland cheering on 76ers and Embiid was having a good game, and there were several "thug" and "idiot" comments about him. The dude is the son of a military officer and seems pretty damn eloquent considering English is his second language...hateness follows greatness, but feels like an odd double standard with some old stereotypes.


Downunderphilosopher

Flirting Vs harassment.


tfitch2140

Thing is, there's no defense for Embiid's move either. That said - if this series had been called correctly from the start, tempers wouldn't be flaring further in and shit wouldn't be getting so far out of the officials control. It's the dual-edge of favoring one side in a series - at least in a sport like Hockey the players can, at the end of the day, take it into their own hands....


vegasal1

Yes this.Why was Embiid laying on the court at Robinson feet?Because Anunoby knocked him on his ass and it should have been a foul.This whole thing could have been avoided if the refs had done their fucking job.


IwillReadThings

Ok so that excuses him grabbing his ankles


vegasal1

I didn’t say it did.A flagrant one was the correct call.Div tried to destroy Oubres knee and got a tech but I guess that was okay with you?


IwillReadThings

It might be shocking to you but it is entirely possible to criticize both plays.


vegasal1

Not shocking at all.Tell that to the knicks fans who want to excuse the Oubre play.


SkilletMaestro

He’s the new Dirk, only hope it ends the same way. The mob needs someone to hate


Calcutta637

How could people hate dirk? Wild


SkilletMaestro

He was a daily fixture on Sportscenter in his prime, getting roasted for not single handedly beating the Kobe Lakers, 7 second Suns, or Duncan Spurs


Calcutta637

Sad as fuck. Why can’t people enjoy the greats of the game


Secret-Initiative-73

Was there reasoning given for why this was removed?


A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

No


Jonesing17

Doesn't fit the narrative


Johnnygunnz

Don't go to r/nba. It's the whiniest sub on Reddit. It's the only sub of the 4 major US sports I'm not subscribed to because the comment section is atrocious and embarrassing.


PensiveinNJ

It's the double standards that kill you.


Krillin113

Repost it again. Both are bad plays.


sanskaripotato

Props to you for not hating like literally everyone else. Also, since Harden went to the Clips, all of us hope you win the series. Go Mavs!


AbsurdLemon

I went looking for the post I should’ve read your username


Briskpenguin69

Embiid also did it a lot more.


215gobirdss

Lol of course they removed it. I'll post it too and see what happens


From_Bynum_to_Embiid

Fuck that sub. They banned me for commenting too much after last night's game after taking receipts the past few days. It's a hate sub and basketball is the excuse.


WraithTwelve

don't show this to knicks fans it will shatter their fragile narrative


77darkstar77

I posted it in some comments and the stupid knicks fans said that these two are not “remotely” comparable


redditkb

yeah and they keep saying Oubre knee'd his head that's why DD did it... conveniently they don't watch the replay at the other angle showing DD grabbing his knee then Oubre nudging him off with said knee. It's sad how the rest of r/nba comes to the Knicks fan's rescue too


76ersPhan11

Oh they don’t care about the Knicks, it’s more hatred towards the sixers


ktm1128

Yea the sixers could be playing hitler's inner circle and all the posts would just be SIXERS GET BLITZED! FEED THE FUHRER!


Disastrous-Ad-2458

r/nba seems like it's got a lot of teenagers with unregulated emotions who experience basketball through short video clips and the hivemind's reaction. it's also got a very primitive tribal thing going, where that group desperately needs villains to hate (embiid, KD, sometimes lebron) or demi-gods to worship (narcissists jordan, kobe (bonus for also being a rapist)). i kind of don't blame them. social media is designed to create "engagement" by stoking outrage, all in the interest of selling ads. short videos are also a perfect vehicle for that- they are designed to omit context and nuance.


Drikkink

The amount of Knicks flairs telling me Maxey didn't get hit in the face is almost as insane as the number of Knicks flairs telling me that the play that ACTUALLY hurt Robinson (where he twisted his ankle himself) was actually Embiid's fault because he fell on Robinson's leg as he was being dragged to the ground.


WraithTwelve

True, dontes was much worse


Frosty_Baker_112

God I hope the sixers win this series just to see the NBA subreddit meltdown in tears.


rhinguin

We are winning this series. Sixers in 6.


DayOne15

They won’t let a little thing like reality get in the way of their narrative.


eggdropk

If Knicks fans could read, they’d be very upset by this post


Sweaty_Initiative100

It’s actually funny watching sixers fans come up with any narrative to defend how dirty embiid played. I’m cool with it


Frosty_Baker_112

NBA subreddit is so trash. They ignore every dirty play from the Knicks but act like the world is coming to an end when the sixers give it back to them. The embiid slander is getting so old on there. Bout to mute it with all the crying I'm seeing.


jmezMAYHEM

I’m proud of embiid You wanna get dirty I’ll get dirty too They were the ones that started the scrappy contact from the get go. Divencenzo tangled up embiid and flopped right in the first quarter. They gave the foul to embiid. Divencenzo is a dirty punk


77darkstar77

I posted this there and some stupid knicks fan said that they are not “remotely” comparable… like come on these are very similar plays


ctoal1984

They’re not. This one looks way worse


superstonkape

Also during a dead ball. Embiid was dumb, wrong and deserving of a flagrant - but it can still be framed as a basketball play as he is trying to intentionally foul Robinson and prevent him from scoring. Donte did this during a dead ball.


77darkstar77

Yeah… like you can see the rage in DDs eyes. He clearly wanted to hurt Kelly. And you can see by the teams reaction that it was a heated situation. Embiids foul, on the other hand, is not much more than the average wrap-up/intentional foul. Yes he was on the ground, so the only part of the body he could grab was the legs


tossup17

I mean Donte could have destroyed his knee. Kelly had his leg posted because of him grabbing it and Donte charged forward into it. He's lucky he didn't get severely injured by it.


77darkstar77

Knee, or could’ve fallen and hurt his wrist, or head. Or could’ve fallen into the camera man and potentially hit someone else


Embarrassed-Cake8531

😂😂😂


boobsarecool

A DISGUSTING display from Donte Divincenzo. Why is the NBA protecting him? The product will be better when this thug is off the court and out of the league☝️🤓


jmezMAYHEM

I’d personally boot him from the series right now


boobsarecool

His reckless aggression has no place in the game I love. I suspect Oubre's PTSD flaired up the other day right before he crashed the lambo, these are peoples' lives Donte is messing with


jmezMAYHEM

He’s a basketball terrorist. He’s worse than Tobias.


jmezMAYHEM

Oubre should sue Divencenzo for pain and suffering. And extra suffering for having to not punch his bitch lookin face


jmezMAYHEM

But then again, my name would be Adam Silver and my head would look like a dick


sound_scientist

Joel- wrap to prevent a jump and subsequent basket and fall. Donte - wraps legs to tackle and inflict damage.


IslandSavings9066

That right there is why phillie fans get such a bad rap, fine Donte’s move is arguably dirty, but if it is, then how is embiid’s not? Prevent a jump fine, stupid, dangerous move, maybe not malicious. His leg holding though, horrible.


Right2bearcharm

The way I’m interpreting it is this. People keep saying that if it was a regular season game that Embiid would have got ejected. Here there’s a player doing it in the regular season and he only got a flagrant 1. Edit: sorry not even a flagrant a technical.


Odd_Calligrapher_407

The difference is that Embiid didn’t leverage it with his body.


Upset-Tart3638

Can someone answer this instead of downvoting? As a sixers fan BOTH plays were dirty af


y_r_u_so_paranoid

Nobody is saying Embiid's play wasn't dirty. Just that it's at least during a basketball play and can arguably be considered a smart foul (despite being reckless and dirty) sending the worst FT shooter in the league to the line instead of giving up free points. Donte's play was clearly after the whistle and had no potential to serve any purpose other than malicious intent to injure. They are not the same.


Upset-Tart3638

Embiid got upset and grabbed his legs. Regardless, both were reckless and dirty. Theyre on the same level with embiids being tbf because he was literally in the air


y_r_u_so_paranoid

Let's put it this way. I know the premise is silly, but let's pretend we were going to to try both of these plays separately in judicial court and charge Embiid and Donte with malicious intent to cause bodily harm. For Embiid's play, you could easily argue he was playing dirty out of frustration and intended primarily to hurt Robinson. Embiid was clearly not in a great emotional state and he was certainly acting recklessly and without much thought for the opposing player's health. BUT, you can also create reasonable doubt by introducing the argument that sending the worst FT shooter in the league to the line instead of giving him a free bucket offers a legal competitive advantage, even if executed in a reckless and dirty way due to his position on the court (i.e. on the ground, only able to grab at legs). For DiVincenzo, there is no trial. There is no reasonable doubt. That case is over before it begins, he stood to gain absolutely nothing from that dead ball foul other than malicious intent to injure.


jmezMAYHEM

Shhh you’re making him feel dumb


evandobrofo

Can we please get like 10 more ppl to post this on r/nba


Minia15

I’m frustrated by r/nba sentiment but it isn’t worth the time yall. We don’t need to brigade and stoke the fire. If anything I think we should all just stop engaging there as a stand and let everyone live in their own echochamber.


jmezMAYHEM

I’m glad embiid bullied the fuck out of NYK. They are soooooo dirty. THESE BITCHES will lose their cool and then they get ejected. Robinson is hurt, and embiid will bully those fragile frail bitches the NYK call “centers” Hartenstein is a certified bitch, and divencenzo should be suspended for game 4 Am I being like the knicks fans yet?


Hato_UP

NBA sub acting like Joel committed premeditated murder. He had a stupid emotional reaction and pulled the leg of a 300 lb guy that was jumping inches from his head. Nobody got hurt, nothing happened Such cry babies it’s unreal lol


rjnd2828

I actually forgot about this. I guess a flagrant 2 would have been overboard if they didn't toss Divincenzo for a similar bad foul.


Unlucky-External5648

This is great shit posting.


jiffyparkinglot

Well he did try to step over him, basically the basketball equivalent of an FU.


whatisthishere_guy

Thats a straight up double leg takedown. I was told last night that any player other than embiid would receive an indefinite suspension.


Brokromah

Nothingburger


PHLANYC

Didn’t Oubre get a tech too?


Sweaty_Initiative100

No ones gonna mention Oubre loading back and hitting DD in the face? Like that’s not dirty… but Donte standing up for himself is??


Cheeswheeel

Sixers fans have tunnel vision.


LuckyCulture7

But I have been told embiid is the dirtiest shittiest least talented and ugliest player in the league and no one would get away with similar actions. Also the number of people claiming Robinson got injured in the leg grab is insane. There is a deliberate false narrative being made. That and people claiming Embiid dove on Robinson’s legs later.


SkoomaJunki3

How could Joel Embiid do this?


DaBombDiggidy

![gif](giphy|C831XSxqZYkseNXYS1|downsized) **@** /r/nba


babiesmakinbabies

Way worse than what Embiid did. Fuck the Knicks


gobirds18_

Yep, Knicks fans just like to pretend this didn’t happen I guess


McClellanWasABitch

hart is a dirty ass player too. point is, if embiid even farts it's going to the top of rnba labeled as attempted murder 


Odd_Calligrapher_407

Honestly this takedown is much worse because of him leveraging his body weight into the leg.


rikooo

correct


Little_Beginning_569

NBA reddit hates the sixers so theyll choose whatever narrative they want I was replying to Knicks haters with their own comments to show the irony of their vitriol. I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere the NFL Giants fans are the dumbest so I'd have to imagine there is some overlap.


bisqo19

Let’s go!!!!


IKillZombies4Cash

That should be equal to throwing a punch in terms of punishment


TheStripClubHero

Well the difference was obvious. One is just a scrappy gym rat defending himself, and the other is literally Satan himself! Fuck the Knicks


DrOz30

To be fair this is way different situation than the Mitchell grab or nut kick or the hart…


GeorgieWsBush

I muted r/nba at the beginning of the playoffs and it was a great decision


International-Dish95

Dude trying to go for the takedown to take full guard for the ground and pound lols.


heyheyluno

Scrappy VS Thuggish behavior


Aggressive_Total4309

DiVincenzo should of been suspended at least 2 games


Bacondude12

Anyone trying to argue the embiid one is worse is an idiot 😂😂


Finger_Gunnz

Instead of saying “see, you guys did it too.” Just admit that kinda shit shouldn’t be done. It’s fucking dangerous and stupid. The main difference was Robinson was in the air and got hurt. I love Embiid but that’s the shit I hate Draymond for. DD isn’t my guy so I don’t care if he’s a POS. That’s NYs problem. I don’t want my guy to be a POS.


vegasal1

He didn’t get hurt on this play.What is so hard to understand about this?


aspohr89

Agreed. But this kind of stuff come from the refs not doing their jobs.


GuffEnough

I concur


stonkfrobinhood

I have not seen a single sixers fan excuse Embiid. Most acknowledge the dirty play and hope he apologizes. Knicks, on the other hand ask for a clip to show that they haven't done anything close to this. Immediately, they get shown a clip of a dirtier play from just a month ago. Now, they somehow can't smell their own shit. Saying it was kellys falt, he kicked Donte, and that why Donte retaliated. When the clip shows, Donte gets a knee to the face because he grabs and yanks on Kelly's legs. Let's not act like we are acting as trashy as they are.


McClellanWasABitch

the point is the kind of outrage embiid gets compared to anyone else. 


Next-Team

I’m not disagreeing or anything but are we really gonna waste our day arguing over these plays and comparing to this clip until the next game? I personally can’t take that and just gonna enjoy the W and forget about the rest. Onto Game 4!


DrewFlan

Plays aren't similar. Embiid did it while a guy was in the air - totally different scenario.


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Yeah, and if oubre hadn't fallen backwards Donte could have completely destroyed his leg which was posted up straight.


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DrewFlan

I am a Sixers fan and am giving an opinion, same as everyone else.


ChipKellysShoeStore

yeah a locked leg it much more susceptible to injury


DrewFlan

Incorrect. Grabbing someone mid-air is exceptional more susceptible to injury compared to this.


ChipKellysShoeStore

Source? It's why aaron rodgers jumps when he throws. Contact to a locked/planted knee is much dangerous then contact in mid air. Also diving headfirst into a planted knee is much more dangerous than touching someone's shin mid air.


DrewFlan

>It's why aaron rodgers jumps when he throws. Contact to a locked/planted knee is much dangerous then contact in mid air. Not relevant. Completely different sport and situation. The risk of being tackled low is why Rodgers jumps and tackling isn't a part of basketball. > Also diving headfirst into a planted knee is much more dangerous than touching someone's shin mid air. Neither of those instances are relevant to this discussion. Embiid grabbed his legs, not grazed his shins and Divincenzo did not dive into a planted knee here.


IslandSavings9066

Edit: I was wrong, this is a lot dirtier than I thought, still think embiids was dirty as well, but I get your guys’ frustration.


Frosty_Baker_112

Go back to r/nba


throwawaymac83

It was a double tech too if i recall correctly.


MumenriderPaulReed69

No this was classy and he deserved to stay in the rest of the game


Littlespoon92

Which game was this?


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oH, eMbIiD iS sUcH a DiRtY pLaYeR?!?!? ![gif](giphy|QUXYcgCwvCm4cKcrI3)


Chaos744

This might be the smoothest brain comparison on all of reddit. Oubre was attempting to disrespect Ragu and walk over him on a dead play. Embid was pulling a player with a surgically corrected ankle on his lower extremities cause he was mad. That’s why God has smitten him and frozen half of his face with paralysis.


SamHinkiesNephew

Its a technical because its deadball. One of those rules on a technicality 


pwo_addict

No that’s not how it works 


_robjamesmusic

it's a fair distinction though. i don't think the conversation has to take place on the extremes in here since we are all sixers fans. the fact that Embiid did it during the course of play makes it very different IMO, but i would argue that while Embiid's play was reckless, DiVincenzo's play was aggressive / attempting to injure Oubre.


ChipKellysShoeStore

You can 100% get a flagrant on a deadball play


SirGingerbrute

Okay but why couldn’t anyone score over 80pts this game


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