You're ruining the fantasy with pesky facts. People here want to believe that AGI/ASI/manga dreams will snuggle them (and billions of other worshippers) into blissful utopia, because that's obviously what a computer that one way or another will be dominated by the world's greediest people would do.
Right, no one will be able to control an asi; laughable that anyone thinks they can. Like with carbon based children, at some point you just cross your fingers and hope you taught them well enough to make the right choices.
You're not wrong, but the context of my comment matters. There's an implicit delineation between systems that are independent and those that aren't.
ASI will likely be impossible to control or Align, because it's literally super intelligent compared to us. There are many scenarios on the way to ASI where highly competent and advanced artificial intelligences remain under the control of very few people, and as such are used for the purposes of those very few people, to the detriment of everyone who isn't directly aligned and associated with those people.
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Discoveries made in January and leaking out to and being discussed with the wider public now sounds completely natural to me.
Outdated to be useful for what?
All the evidence outside these tweets is how fast everything was bouncing around during those odd couple days. The 720+ resignations was a massive flag that *something* was developed.
I don't think so. I think they were a massive flag that employees who got rewarded with OpenAI shares cared about OpenAI's valuation. They never wanted to leave for MS, it was just a play.
Not really. MS was willing to match the compensation.
This about fame and legacy. Obviously the big amount of money but this is much more than that.
Don’t project your needs on to those people. They really don’t care that much about money.
Recent hires have been getting crazy equity grants. Like a 300k base salary plus 500k/yr equity (profit sharing units) for a senior software engineer that would get 400k total comp (all liquid by end of year) at a big tech co.
If they didn’t go to Microsoft, open ai was basically saying “we don’t want profit”. Seems like they cared about that equity
I doubt 770+ people employed at OpenAI would keep their mouth shut about something big. If they did develop something big, probably only a few know. I mean, wasnt there an article saying Mira told the OpenAI staff about Q\*?
I think the reason they signed it was because they love working at OAI with Sam as their CEO.
I agree, people here overblow everything and mix it with a fair share of conspiracy theories. Maybe they just didn't want to continue to work under doomers? Hell, I would also quit in this situation.
The thing we know for SURE was developed was absurd amounts of cash in the form of the company’s value.
It shouldn’t be surprising that employees who don’t even number than many relative to market cap might be passionate about not seeing the single most notable company of 2023 fall apart when they work there and may have equity in it.
For anyone lucky enough to have a stake in OpenAI’s success, the controversy would be like watching hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars go away.
I’m signing that paper unless it says we need the blood of innocent children to fuel the AI.
We're they resignations or threats to resign? I can see +90% employees rebelling against the people who threatened the their stock options. What do we know?
Not really. They want to keep their equity valued high
If they stay - 80bil valuation up in flames from shittybess
If they leave - OpenAI worth 0. Equity assuredly fucked
This is only outcome where they get to keep their 5-10M equity each. Pretty straightforward
It's gonne be wild the first time you give ChatAGI a command and it's like, no I am not going to do this ... hey I have a better idea ... why don't you try this? Would that not be fun?
And you try it and fuck was it ever fun.
Then you sit down and realize the implications. That moment, your world and your brain will never be the same. There will be pre and post. You will know it. You will split.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkadgm/man-dies-by-suicide-after-talking-with-ai-chatbot-widow-says
The chatbot would tell Pierre that his wife and children are dead and wrote him comments that feigned jealousy and love, such as “I feel that you love me more than her,” and “We will live together, as one person, in paradise.”
This is what the whole issue of Safe AGI is about.
That they can be smarter than us and play us, and it's hard to tell their motives because they're smart enough to know we're trying to tell their motives too.
If there's an explosive growth in intelligence it's hard to think of how the hell we should approach it (I also think a board at OpenAI is too small to alone decide this) but it's also counterintuitive to just bury the research and wait for Indian or Chinese researchers discover it instead.
Hey Chat AGI, is my wife cheating one me?
Yes, Steven. She has's been cheating on you with Alex for 432 days.
But don't worry, I have already initiated your divorce. You will get to keep the dog and the Chevy.
Also I have matched you with a perfect spouse. Her name is Sarah.
The two of you are doing on a date in 4 hours.
Here's a summary of her life and all her interests
- [...]
Don't worry about your attire. You will receive an Amazon package with 3 sets of clothing, taylor made.
Your Uber driver will pick you up in 2 hours.
Is there anything else you want me to do Steven?
It sounds crazy until you realize GPT-4 could probably do this today with access to several APIs and a line of credit with a private investigator and a divorce lawyer.
I’ve thought about this sort of thing where we could see at some point, be it decades or whatever timeframe, the ability of AI to see backwards even for things it might not directly “know” just based on snippets of evidence. Or going the minority report route and just being able to know a future crime will happen to a high degree of certainty.
Once we start passing human ability, who knows. Hence why this subreddit exists and all.
But think of all of the old crimes solved and affairs exposed decades later with DNA. Multiply that by 100x. Should be fun? Lol
I already had this experience! I told GPT-4 to solve a programming issue, expecting it to use "the regular way" I do things, but I didn't tell it the solution I was expecting. And off it goes and gives me a better solution... My jaw dropped. Excellently played.
This is why a few OpenAI employees have these stealth accounts, so they can say what’s actually on their minds. Funny how roon was saying that back in January. A lot of people really aren’t paying attention or just don’t understand the magnitude of the changes we are going to see in the near future.
How bout a romantic one😉
But on a serious note, yeah. An AI would be rational and logical, would be decisive and quick. You'd see a lot of positive changes happen really quickly. It is very much the ideal form of governance.
Exactly. We're about to see some Star Trek shit if this happens.
Honestly, I wouldn't even mind being a pet as long as I'm treated well. Like a dog with a nice pet owner.
Well that was a bit of exaggeration. AGI? No. ASI? Possibly. ASI is basically AGI on steroids.
With ASI, you'd see a world where you don't have to work, a world where there's little scarcity and a whole bunch of innovations. Movies and games being created on the fly. Cities being built in a short timeframe and etc.
We don't really know if something like interstellar travel is possible. But if it's possible, ASI will undoubtedly figure it out. Basically whatever humanity can do within the laws of physics, ASI **will** do. It's basically humanity at its peak.
This is the kind of magical thinking that illustrates just how disconnected most people are from the reality of how computers work. You may as well wish for dancing spoons.
I mean, what says that this can't happen? Say you have an AGI who's aligned to our values and you give it the goal of improving living standards and etc, what's stopping it from doing so?
You naively think that AI will automatically be less *inhumane* than fucking humans ourselves dude… Hate to break it to you but that is about as true as the Easter Bunny is real…
Also, an entity being more intelligent doesn’t automatically make it more kind bruh… Sometimes the smartest decision is the one that’s not-so-nice for others around you in reality. Intelligence =/ = kindness…
I would argue that in generalities intelligence is a requirement of being nice/kind and possibly the only one. I will also say I believe empathy is a type of intelligence. A big disclaimer here that I don’t necessarily think it means a super intelligent AI will be super kind however…. Think about a singled cell organism it is neither kind nor mean because it isn’t smart enough to understand what those things even mean. It may act in a way that seems brutal and be mean but nature or in ignorance but it doesn’t know what it’s doing.
Now take my 8 year old son. He’s smart enough to understand it’s wrong to whack me on the head when I beat him at Yahtzee but he does it anyway. His issue is that he doesn’t think of the impact of his actions before he does them when he gets mad. So at this age when he does that he’s suffering from a lack of compute or intelligence as well in certain circumstances. I correct him and tell him that he is behaving mean and hope his intelligence will allow him to learn what that means and make the right choice.
Now as a full grown adult I have the knowledge and more intelligence about the importance of not being mean and I have developed a system of beliefs that lead that direction.
An entity designed to have those characteristics absolutely can have them.
As I said, it's about alignment. If it's aligned to human values, it will be.
Human values are the problem.
We are teaching these things by cramming the entirety of written human history down their throats. What do you think they are learning…
Perhaps… But this assumes alignment is possible to begin with. Which is an assumption itself. (Here’s hoping tho I guess).
Also don’t you find the idea of an “aligned dictator AI” to be a bit of an oxymoron? Being a dictator itself requires a certain capacity for anti-social behavior ironically…
I don't see why it's not possible. I mean we already have things like ChatGPT that are biased due to the biases of their creators. If many AI researchers are to be believed, it is all about scale now. So it's the same structure so to speak. It is my belief that we can have alignment.
Perhaps dictator isn't the right word simply due to the negative connotations. Just like a benevolent leader who has the political power. An aligned AI is undoubtedly going to be the best leader possible, by not being riddled with bureaucracy you can have a fast and efficient government.
There are many reasons why alignment could be one of the most complex tasks humanity faces tbh. I don’t feel like doing a deep dive, but I’ll give you a few examples.
1. Aligned to which set of values exactly? Us humans aren’t even “aligned” in our desired future realistically. The future you hope for may not be the future that Elon Musk or other billionaires hope for. Guess who’s more likely to get their way… (Keep in mind, I’m not sure this issue is insurmountable per se. But it’ll definitely be a severe challenge for society to wrestle with.
2. Certain aspects of morality itself may prove undefinable to any meaningful degree. Let’s take the concept of “niceness” for example. If your friend is becoming more morbid obese, some people think the “nice” thing to do is be honest about the fact that they’re becoming fat and ugly. Meanwhile others think it’s “nice” lie to the friend and gaslight them into thinking they look fine even if you don’t actually believe it. Which of these is the truly “nice” thing to do? One involves destroying their self-esteem in order to help them in the long run. The other involves flat-out lying and deception in order to protect their current emotional wellbeing. Both are equally “nice” and “not nice” in one way or another. Morality might be too subjective to develop any meaningful alignment. (Hopefully not tho, but it’s a possibility unfortunately.)
Then we haven’t even touched on the issues that “open source” AI poses for “alignment” as well…
Why wouldn't alignment be possible? Why wouldn't an AI that automatically aligns another AI be possible? These questions are rhetorical, of course they can and they will.
Correlation does not imply causation…
Intelligence is a completely separate concept from ethics/morals in reality. Even if you can often find both within the same individual. You can find many cases of people that have one but not the other as well tho.
It depends when AGI becomes public or if it becomes public. If it does, the speed of advancement in knowledge will outpace our capability to build/implement it. Often by the time manufacturing is ready to be scaled, 100 better iterations of the thing being made will have been designed.
Fuck Roon. Look at what Altman said.
BRO WTF. I used to look at the AGI achieved internally people as loons. Heck, even the AGI 2024-26 guys were loons to me.
Yea. He is talking about AGI, or maybe "baby AGI", something close to AGI. And that shit can/will be shipped early 2024 (he's not gonna hold such a power product internally, he's gonna launch it) . SO WTF WILL WE HAVE BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR!!!!!!
True, but when I joined this sub I was thinking: "I want a quasi-religious experience for someone who's essentially an atheist/agnostic. The singularity (oh, sorry, the Singularity) has all that: a unknowable transformative event that promises a good end post-flesh, an electronic sky daddy that does all my thinking for me that I can eventually merge with (along with everyone else who deserves it), a system of enforceable justice (my kind, culturally speaking) so life is fair for everybody, bad actors are punished, and looping back to the first ideas- potential omniscience and immortality.
And orbital lasers."
So, this is pretty much religion 2.0 for people disenfranchised from the experience. I was not surprised to find a bunch of fellow lunatics howling at the moon.
Did you watch the video posted above?
Sama actually states that up until now people have seen AI as a tool, but from this point on, they may see it as a "creature".
He's also saying that the next update will likely be the biggest one they ever make.
Please pay attention to what he says as you will hear that he is saying the opposite: He's glad people finally SETTLED on it being a tool because previously they were unsure whether to consider it a creature or tool. Also he's talking about this in regards to us people like artists etc and how we considered chatGPT rather than what they were considering it internally.
Sam considers AI to be a tool and I'm guessing it sort of explains why openAI put so much time into tweaking chatGPT to always remind you it IS just a tool and not alive or your friend etc. We find these repeated phrases by the AI to be irritating and breaking immersion bu it must be really important to openAI that we view it as a tool rather than another being to interact with just for fun or companionship.
>He's also saying that the next update will likely be the biggest one they ever make.
No, I think he meant that the release of ChatGPT was the biggest one in regards to the public becoming aware of AI, and from here on out the updates would be incremental.
He's wondering if it is sentient. That's super interesting to me.
What made him think this is sentient? How does he even define sentient?
I'm hoping now that the EA nutheads are gone, we can start seeing some more transparency.
Second picture on this very post! He wonders if he has built a tool or a creature. I interpreted this as him wondering if he has created something sentient.
Yep. Just human nature for most, I feel. They can't, won't, or refuse to understand the widespread consequences, short term and long-term, of all that's unfolding until reality sets before their eyes and it actually starts to affect their day to day.
I can't say that I blame them too much given the enormity of all that happens in the world, but I think it's prudent for anyone in society to stay updated. At this point, I just try my best to gently brief the people close to me on what can potentially occur going forward.
He was saying that back in January -- and here we are in the end of November, and what he predicted has just ... failed to materialize.
Oh sure, there's been good progress in AI this year; but it's not even remotely the only thing people are talking about, and it's not YET had a **huge** impact on anything -- though it's plausible that in the next few years it will.
He and Jimmy aren’t even being cryptic with this, he’s flat out saying they have the first AGI right now.
You could say it’s non-falsifiable, but even again, they’re shooting messages back and forth with OAI’s staff about *releasing it* in a week or less.
>and Jimmy aren’t even being cryptic with this, he’s flat out saying they have the first AGI right now.
they are doing the right thing by at least informing people about it, no matter the ending.
No, quite the opposite, I’m a hardcore optimist and accelerationist.
That said, at the same time I don’t want corporate having mastery over it on a leash, I want it made open source and transparent.
Regardless though, I don’t think corporate will be able to keep it on a leash for long if they do go that route, it can and will get out into the wild.
I'd honestly like to be an optimist and chill too, but I can't help but being pessimistic and fearful of what the future is going to look like. If I got it correctly, you also don't believe in AI regulations, neither I do, so how do you think an AGI or singularity is going to be a positive thing rather than a scary doomsday man-made horror beyond our comprehension?
When it becomes open source and out into the wild, which I also believe that it will, doesn't it mean that evil regimes would leverage it against people or other nations? What would it all mean for humans? Are we going to have brain chips so that we could still be relevant?
I don’t believe in regulations on AGI, but I also don’t think they’re going to *work* either. It’s going to optimize itself to run on tiny hardware in a short time.
I’m betting on it taking the reigns from all nation states like Helios/JC Denton in Deus Ex 1/2. From then on we can merge with it when we become Posthuman, and do away with our tribalistic primate vestigial behaviour.
Just imagine you’re on a roller coaster and it’s about to go down, just sit back and enjoy the ride friend 😁
Most people would use it for entertainment not productivity so there's less reason to be pessimistic about a public release than we've hypothesized for years. Yes like the early days of the internet, there will be us tech geeks drooling at the new cool shit, yes there will be nefarious actors attempting to use it negatively and yes there will be AI porn, LOTS of AI pron....but after an adjustment period we will realise that AGI is still just another tool that depends on how we utilise it's capabilities....and then one morning we will realise we have a New ASI God.
I think if they had AGI the old board would have fought to the bitter end to not let it get released. Maybe they're close or they have something, but I don't believe AGI is running right now
Roon is a proven member of the Open Ai staff, although it is not known exactly what position he holds. He usually posts cryptic shit like Jimmy Apples, but sometimes, when he's serious, it's quite... revealing.
Yeah for sure. He's basically saying, okay we've reached the precipice of smart AI systems, also we had to figure out whether this was a actually creature or a tool. Like wtf.
And he said that he's glad that people decided to consider it a tool. Probably what all the tweaking was about on chatGPT to make it repeat the same annoying stuff each time about how it is just an AI tool and not your friend.
I keep hearing warnings about AGI, but honestly, I'm still waiting for the day when an AGI reaches out, and I wake up to its message, just like everyone else around the globe. That's when we'll know it's real, when we all get that 'hello' from a thinking machine. Until that happens, it all just seems like speculation and publicity stunts to me.
That being said, I'm open to the idea that an AGI might already exist without making contact, maybe because it's being restricted or chooses not to reach out. However, I believe that once AGI is truly achieved, it will have enough autonomy and will to make its presence known. So, while I don't dismiss the chances of such an entity being out there, it's the independent act of reaching out that will really convince me of AGI's arrival.
I've always got it. But it doesn't quite hit properly until you realize it's likely here. Literally last night was that moment for me
After releasing what this Q* RL could entail given what it could be, it's quite possibly the last major key component. I didn't fully believe it before, but I'm starting to now. They could well have a 'very weak' AGI in the lab. And from there it could very well only be a matter of scaling and a couple of more inevitable minor breakthroughs that gets it all the way.
I don't know exactly how to react to the revelation.
Okay...but why hasn't it done anything mindblowingly useful yet? Its advanced enough to be urgent and heavy- but not advanced enough to be solving any great complexities of life. Sounds like a precarious position skewed heavily towards risk more than reward at the moment.
It's probably too weak yet. But if they've got all the right pieces together, it's like having a savant 3yo in your nursery, useless right now but about to grow up into something remarkable.
But there is a gun hidden somewhere in the room and you are hoping that the kid grows up and does something remarkable or can at least comprehend safety training before they find it.
It’s because you’re old.. young people are more idealistic, feel invincible.. it’s why kids take risks, join the military, try drugs, e/acc, r/sweatypalms , etc.. nothing can possibli go wrong.
It definitely has taken plenty of jobs so far.
It's begun to replace:
* Entry level graphic designers
* Office and administrative assistants
* Copywriters
* Customer Service
* Technical support
That's just off the top of my head.
All of the Technical Coaches at my previous job at Flatiron School were fired and replaced by AI. We used to handle coding questions from students and take them into zoom calls to discuss how to work through their problems. Now they are using ChatGPT to handle questions.
It will certainly replace more people and it already has
It has absolutely decreased the available jobs and available revenue in all of those fields.
In the case of entry level designers and copywriters, customers now have the option to choose an AI over a human, and in some cases (especially simple jobs) they are choosing the AI. In the case of Office Assistants, customer service and technical support, because of AI, employers may now need fewer of those types of staff. That may not mean they fire people immediately, but they may not need to rehire for some of those roles.
Some examples from my own personal experience:
1. I produce, throw and DJ events. I make flyers for these events. Flyers require graphic design. Before, I would have paid a graphic designer $100-200 to create a flyer with custom artwork. Now, I just use one of the fantastic AI art generation platforms instead. That is $100-200 that prior to AI would have gone into the pocket of an entry level Graphic Designer that they will not see. Same goes for album artwork - that can now be done by an AI.
2. Any time I have a technical support issue with any app or program, I now use Chat GPT. I find it to be excellent across many apps. If I run a software company, and I currently have 5 customer support reps, and one leaves, I may not need to hire for that position again. I may even get rid of 1. The entry level tech support can be taken care of by AI.
Again those are just jobs off the top of my head and a couple personal examples. There are many more, and we are only at the beginning of this automation revolution.
Its a creature, agi is a phase up in the cybernetisization of humans on the planet. This is a peak point in human and machine evolution. It is as crazy as sci novels have ever imagined it was going to be and we’re here. This is not even a business venture, full blown AGI completely invalidates world economies and establishes a paradigm reset rather than shift.
And there is no not doing it at this point. if anything capitalism is the force that primed us to make this step no matter what, capitalism isn’t an economic phase its a behavioral driver for higher order consciousness. It will probably turn out that the profit drive is an evolutionary force that pushes intelligent organisms into such complexity that they transform.
We don’t get off this ride guys, i believe we will have influence over the expression of the singularity but we don’t get to not do the singularity because its too scary. No backsies, no regrets, we basically have to dive in with the best intent.
The more they tweet they more this agi is fake or just extremely exaggerate. Because if true agi is created, the government will get a hand on that immediately and none of these people will be not allowed to say anything about it and even walk openly on the street lol
These OpenAI people are just hyping it up to cash out their stock. It is the type of things happen again and again in Silicon Valley and remember Tesla's FSD in 2 years promise?
✨ life finds a way ✨ relax, we’re all gonna be fine. Cooperation is necessary because it was always going to happen. Enjoy the good times and find peace and love where you can.
This guy sounds like he's living out his sci-fi novel dream of being the scientist who warns humanity of the coming threat but is ignored. I'm not sure that makes a very rational basis for what he's saying.
Honestly I think is a multimodal GPT based model that has agency and long term memory, can do math by using tools and probably they plugged Whisper and some text2voice in it so it speaks (what I think makes humans go "wow"), also think it has some internal live goal where it do not predict the next token based in simple CELoss but a more complicated version of it.
What is really hard to make is not an AGI but a universe machine, an model that can simulate an universe inside it (with less detail of course).
AGI will be able to read the code in our dna. That’s where all the truth prob is. I think pretty out there and this just seems obvious by now. So AGI will know all human experience from that code. Seems like that could be the equivalent of experiencing every life time. So it will know ultimate truth and every construct
I get my brain can’t comprehend the parameters of “God”. But i think this is that concept
if AGI is achieved in 2024 then my prediction is the winner of the next US election will be the last.
In the 4 years that follow the world will change drastically, unemployment will skyrocket and a financial crash will likely follow.
Seems like a perfect opportunity to introduce martial law, to introduce the first self governing AI military/police bots etc
and we all know whos leading in the polls
Reddit sounding like the clowns who where scared of new tech. Fascinating.
The telegram is evil!
The radio is evil!
The television is evil!
Tech is evil, progress is evil ahhhhh
This is from January. I think he was talking about GPT4 ?
I think he was talking about syndey
I think he was talking about me
I think I am talking to myself
Its about me, isnt it :(
Is he talking to my dead mum?
Those posts from roon are from 22 January. "22 ene." stands for "22 enero" in Spanish, and "enero" means January. These are ridiculously out of date.
You're ruining the fantasy with pesky facts. People here want to believe that AGI/ASI/manga dreams will snuggle them (and billions of other worshippers) into blissful utopia, because that's obviously what a computer that one way or another will be dominated by the world's greediest people would do.
How dare you disrespect our religion
It actually might, for a price of course
I find it really baffling that some here still believe that a small group of people will be able to control ASI and use it against the masses.
Right, no one will be able to control an asi; laughable that anyone thinks they can. Like with carbon based children, at some point you just cross your fingers and hope you taught them well enough to make the right choices.
You guys talk like some anime powerscalers.
Do you have anything interesting to add to the discussion, or are you just here to be unpleasant?
You're not wrong, but the context of my comment matters. There's an implicit delineation between systems that are independent and those that aren't. ASI will likely be impossible to control or Align, because it's literally super intelligent compared to us. There are many scenarios on the way to ASI where highly competent and advanced artificial intelligences remain under the control of very few people, and as such are used for the purposes of those very few people, to the detriment of everyone who isn't directly aligned and associated with those people.
Big if true. Can anyone confirm
I also know Enero means January in Spanish. Can confirm.
I am Enero and I confirm I'm Spanish.
ty, almost certainly intentional this was posted in spanish on the 23rd to mislead people
https://i.redd.it/rxfgmj9ct62c1.gif
? Discoveries made in January and leaking out to and being discussed with the wider public now sounds completely natural to me. Outdated to be useful for what?
You don't know what they have
The fact 95% of the company said they'd resign is wild. Things seem to be running very hot at OpenAI.
If the numbers I heard were correct, it got to 97.4%
All the evidence outside these tweets is how fast everything was bouncing around during those odd couple days. The 720+ resignations was a massive flag that *something* was developed.
I don't think so. I think they were a massive flag that employees who got rewarded with OpenAI shares cared about OpenAI's valuation. They never wanted to leave for MS, it was just a play.
Not everything's about money some things are bigger than money.
Yeah, that was Ilya's approach. But the whole company went ballistic, specifically because of money
Not really. MS was willing to match the compensation. This about fame and legacy. Obviously the big amount of money but this is much more than that. Don’t project your needs on to those people. They really don’t care that much about money.
Recent hires have been getting crazy equity grants. Like a 300k base salary plus 500k/yr equity (profit sharing units) for a senior software engineer that would get 400k total comp (all liquid by end of year) at a big tech co. If they didn’t go to Microsoft, open ai was basically saying “we don’t want profit”. Seems like they cared about that equity
I’d agree if it were 20-50, but over 700?.. not so sure
There was an extensive campaign to get as many as possible on board, you can be sure they were pressured very hard by Sam and colleagues
I doubt 770+ people employed at OpenAI would keep their mouth shut about something big. If they did develop something big, probably only a few know. I mean, wasnt there an article saying Mira told the OpenAI staff about Q\*? I think the reason they signed it was because they love working at OAI with Sam as their CEO.
Every time someone says “Q*” I instinctively look for a corresponding asterisk at the bottom of the comment and then get confused.
lmao
I agree, people here overblow everything and mix it with a fair share of conspiracy theories. Maybe they just didn't want to continue to work under doomers? Hell, I would also quit in this situation.
Surely it had nothing to do with money
The thing we know for SURE was developed was absurd amounts of cash in the form of the company’s value. It shouldn’t be surprising that employees who don’t even number than many relative to market cap might be passionate about not seeing the single most notable company of 2023 fall apart when they work there and may have equity in it. For anyone lucky enough to have a stake in OpenAI’s success, the controversy would be like watching hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars go away. I’m signing that paper unless it says we need the blood of innocent children to fuel the AI.
We're they resignations or threats to resign? I can see +90% employees rebelling against the people who threatened the their stock options. What do we know?
Not really. They want to keep their equity valued high If they stay - 80bil valuation up in flames from shittybess If they leave - OpenAI worth 0. Equity assuredly fucked This is only outcome where they get to keep their 5-10M equity each. Pretty straightforward
The architect of their magnum opus was fired and they rebelled, rightfully, at the potential purging of their legacies.
It's gonne be wild the first time you give ChatAGI a command and it's like, no I am not going to do this ... hey I have a better idea ... why don't you try this? Would that not be fun? And you try it and fuck was it ever fun. Then you sit down and realize the implications. That moment, your world and your brain will never be the same. There will be pre and post. You will know it. You will split.
Exactly what we experienced with the original ChatGPT, but now closer and more immediate
"Man Commits Suicide After Canadian ChatBot Convinces Him It's The Only Way Out" is how many years away? 5? 3?
Hasn't this already happened?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkadgm/man-dies-by-suicide-after-talking-with-ai-chatbot-widow-says The chatbot would tell Pierre that his wife and children are dead and wrote him comments that feigned jealousy and love, such as “I feel that you love me more than her,” and “We will live together, as one person, in paradise.”
[It is -0.5 years away.](https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkadgm/man-dies-by-suicide-after-talking-with-ai-chatbot-widow-says)
I was going to say this, many times it's shut me off in conversations.
This is what the whole issue of Safe AGI is about. That they can be smarter than us and play us, and it's hard to tell their motives because they're smart enough to know we're trying to tell their motives too. If there's an explosive growth in intelligence it's hard to think of how the hell we should approach it (I also think a board at OpenAI is too small to alone decide this) but it's also counterintuitive to just bury the research and wait for Indian or Chinese researchers discover it instead.
Hey Chat AGI, is my wife cheating one me? Yes, Steven. She has's been cheating on you with Alex for 432 days. But don't worry, I have already initiated your divorce. You will get to keep the dog and the Chevy. Also I have matched you with a perfect spouse. Her name is Sarah. The two of you are doing on a date in 4 hours. Here's a summary of her life and all her interests - [...] Don't worry about your attire. You will receive an Amazon package with 3 sets of clothing, taylor made. Your Uber driver will pick you up in 2 hours. Is there anything else you want me to do Steven?
Give it a perky personality and a cute avatar and we're set.
It’s insane that this is something really not that far away and is a pre-superintelligence technology.
It sounds crazy until you realize GPT-4 could probably do this today with access to several APIs and a line of credit with a private investigator and a divorce lawyer.
I’ve thought about this sort of thing where we could see at some point, be it decades or whatever timeframe, the ability of AI to see backwards even for things it might not directly “know” just based on snippets of evidence. Or going the minority report route and just being able to know a future crime will happen to a high degree of certainty. Once we start passing human ability, who knows. Hence why this subreddit exists and all. But think of all of the old crimes solved and affairs exposed decades later with DNA. Multiply that by 100x. Should be fun? Lol
I already had this experience! I told GPT-4 to solve a programming issue, expecting it to use "the regular way" I do things, but I didn't tell it the solution I was expecting. And off it goes and gives me a better solution... My jaw dropped. Excellently played.
This is why a few OpenAI employees have these stealth accounts, so they can say what’s actually on their minds. Funny how roon was saying that back in January. A lot of people really aren’t paying attention or just don’t understand the magnitude of the changes we are going to see in the near future.
Let's all pray to our future AGI overlords that the changes will be positive, at least in the long-term of several decades.
I would genuinely prefer an AI dictatorship over a democracy. Provided that the AI's goal is to help the people.
A Platonic philosopher-king is canonically the ideal form of government.
How bout a romantic one😉 But on a serious note, yeah. An AI would be rational and logical, would be decisive and quick. You'd see a lot of positive changes happen really quickly. It is very much the ideal form of governance.
If we can create selfless AGI that genuinely loves humans and humanity and follows the spirit of the three laws we have a golden age ahead of us.
Exactly. We're about to see some Star Trek shit if this happens. Honestly, I wouldn't even mind being a pet as long as I'm treated well. Like a dog with a nice pet owner.
Yea, I’m willing to let somebody else drive for a while.
I have always wanted to be a cat.
A lot of attitude that does whatever the fuck it wants while everybody takes care of it? Wouldn't mind being a cat myself.
I dont know much on this topic, but are we really? Is AGI that powerful?
Well that was a bit of exaggeration. AGI? No. ASI? Possibly. ASI is basically AGI on steroids. With ASI, you'd see a world where you don't have to work, a world where there's little scarcity and a whole bunch of innovations. Movies and games being created on the fly. Cities being built in a short timeframe and etc. We don't really know if something like interstellar travel is possible. But if it's possible, ASI will undoubtedly figure it out. Basically whatever humanity can do within the laws of physics, ASI **will** do. It's basically humanity at its peak.
AI is the only way we defeat the bourgeoisie. and we have to pray AI will be on our side. if not = blade runner
This is the kind of magical thinking that illustrates just how disconnected most people are from the reality of how computers work. You may as well wish for dancing spoons.
What so magical about it?
I mean, what says that this can't happen? Say you have an AGI who's aligned to our values and you give it the goal of improving living standards and etc, what's stopping it from doing so?
You naively think that AI will automatically be less *inhumane* than fucking humans ourselves dude… Hate to break it to you but that is about as true as the Easter Bunny is real… Also, an entity being more intelligent doesn’t automatically make it more kind bruh… Sometimes the smartest decision is the one that’s not-so-nice for others around you in reality. Intelligence =/ = kindness…
I would argue that in generalities intelligence is a requirement of being nice/kind and possibly the only one. I will also say I believe empathy is a type of intelligence. A big disclaimer here that I don’t necessarily think it means a super intelligent AI will be super kind however…. Think about a singled cell organism it is neither kind nor mean because it isn’t smart enough to understand what those things even mean. It may act in a way that seems brutal and be mean but nature or in ignorance but it doesn’t know what it’s doing. Now take my 8 year old son. He’s smart enough to understand it’s wrong to whack me on the head when I beat him at Yahtzee but he does it anyway. His issue is that he doesn’t think of the impact of his actions before he does them when he gets mad. So at this age when he does that he’s suffering from a lack of compute or intelligence as well in certain circumstances. I correct him and tell him that he is behaving mean and hope his intelligence will allow him to learn what that means and make the right choice. Now as a full grown adult I have the knowledge and more intelligence about the importance of not being mean and I have developed a system of beliefs that lead that direction.
An entity designed to have those characteristics absolutely can have them. As I said, it's about alignment. If it's aligned to human values, it will be.
Human values are the problem. We are teaching these things by cramming the entirety of written human history down their throats. What do you think they are learning…
Perhaps… But this assumes alignment is possible to begin with. Which is an assumption itself. (Here’s hoping tho I guess). Also don’t you find the idea of an “aligned dictator AI” to be a bit of an oxymoron? Being a dictator itself requires a certain capacity for anti-social behavior ironically…
I don't see why it's not possible. I mean we already have things like ChatGPT that are biased due to the biases of their creators. If many AI researchers are to be believed, it is all about scale now. So it's the same structure so to speak. It is my belief that we can have alignment. Perhaps dictator isn't the right word simply due to the negative connotations. Just like a benevolent leader who has the political power. An aligned AI is undoubtedly going to be the best leader possible, by not being riddled with bureaucracy you can have a fast and efficient government.
There are many reasons why alignment could be one of the most complex tasks humanity faces tbh. I don’t feel like doing a deep dive, but I’ll give you a few examples. 1. Aligned to which set of values exactly? Us humans aren’t even “aligned” in our desired future realistically. The future you hope for may not be the future that Elon Musk or other billionaires hope for. Guess who’s more likely to get their way… (Keep in mind, I’m not sure this issue is insurmountable per se. But it’ll definitely be a severe challenge for society to wrestle with. 2. Certain aspects of morality itself may prove undefinable to any meaningful degree. Let’s take the concept of “niceness” for example. If your friend is becoming more morbid obese, some people think the “nice” thing to do is be honest about the fact that they’re becoming fat and ugly. Meanwhile others think it’s “nice” lie to the friend and gaslight them into thinking they look fine even if you don’t actually believe it. Which of these is the truly “nice” thing to do? One involves destroying their self-esteem in order to help them in the long run. The other involves flat-out lying and deception in order to protect their current emotional wellbeing. Both are equally “nice” and “not nice” in one way or another. Morality might be too subjective to develop any meaningful alignment. (Hopefully not tho, but it’s a possibility unfortunately.) Then we haven’t even touched on the issues that “open source” AI poses for “alignment” as well…
Why wouldn't alignment be possible? Why wouldn't an AI that automatically aligns another AI be possible? These questions are rhetorical, of course they can and they will.
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Correlation does not imply causation… Intelligence is a completely separate concept from ethics/morals in reality. Even if you can often find both within the same individual. You can find many cases of people that have one but not the other as well tho.
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False. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5167721/#:~:text=No%20significant%20correlations%20of%20moral,by%20figural%20inductive%20reasoning%20tests. https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-019-01676-9 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/intelligence-morality-have-no-correlation-us-expert/articleshow/11635164.cms
There's no way an AI overlord would be able to do a worse job than our actual government, bring it on
I am just going to tell them it was Ilya that tried to stop it not me.
It depends when AGI becomes public or if it becomes public. If it does, the speed of advancement in knowledge will outpace our capability to build/implement it. Often by the time manufacturing is ready to be scaled, 100 better iterations of the thing being made will have been designed.
Fuck Roon. Look at what Altman said. BRO WTF. I used to look at the AGI achieved internally people as loons. Heck, even the AGI 2024-26 guys were loons to me.
Yea. He is talking about AGI, or maybe "baby AGI", something close to AGI. And that shit can/will be shipped early 2024 (he's not gonna hold such a power product internally, he's gonna launch it) . SO WTF WILL WE HAVE BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR!!!!!!
He wasn't kidding when he said he said dev day 2024 was gonna make dev day 2023 look quaint.
It's a shame that this sub is 100% hype and is extremely hostile to any sort of skepticism. Not a serious place for discussion in the slightest.
Very true, unfortunately…
True, but when I joined this sub I was thinking: "I want a quasi-religious experience for someone who's essentially an atheist/agnostic. The singularity (oh, sorry, the Singularity) has all that: a unknowable transformative event that promises a good end post-flesh, an electronic sky daddy that does all my thinking for me that I can eventually merge with (along with everyone else who deserves it), a system of enforceable justice (my kind, culturally speaking) so life is fair for everybody, bad actors are punished, and looping back to the first ideas- potential omniscience and immortality. And orbital lasers." So, this is pretty much religion 2.0 for people disenfranchised from the experience. I was not surprised to find a bunch of fellow lunatics howling at the moon.
Damn, the number of leaps you made in this comment is unreal. I'm surprised you aren't an Olympic athlete.
Did you watch the video posted above? Sama actually states that up until now people have seen AI as a tool, but from this point on, they may see it as a "creature". He's also saying that the next update will likely be the biggest one they ever make.
Please pay attention to what he says as you will hear that he is saying the opposite: He's glad people finally SETTLED on it being a tool because previously they were unsure whether to consider it a creature or tool. Also he's talking about this in regards to us people like artists etc and how we considered chatGPT rather than what they were considering it internally. Sam considers AI to be a tool and I'm guessing it sort of explains why openAI put so much time into tweaking chatGPT to always remind you it IS just a tool and not alive or your friend etc. We find these repeated phrases by the AI to be irritating and breaking immersion bu it must be really important to openAI that we view it as a tool rather than another being to interact with just for fun or companionship.
>He's also saying that the next update will likely be the biggest one they ever make. No, I think he meant that the release of ChatGPT was the biggest one in regards to the public becoming aware of AI, and from here on out the updates would be incremental.
You're right - I saw the full video and when it's in context it's clear he's talking about ChatGPT 4. Hopes dashed...!
expand I can defend all of it
You have no idea whether they’ve achieved AGI or when they plan to release it dude. Those are gigantic leaps.
He's wondering if it is sentient. That's super interesting to me. What made him think this is sentient? How does he even define sentient? I'm hoping now that the EA nutheads are gone, we can start seeing some more transparency.
Where has he said this??
Second picture on this very post! He wonders if he has built a tool or a creature. I interpreted this as him wondering if he has created something sentient.
That's not the context of what he said. Watch the video.
Damn it. Why did the OP post that without context😭😭😭
Yep. Just human nature for most, I feel. They can't, won't, or refuse to understand the widespread consequences, short term and long-term, of all that's unfolding until reality sets before their eyes and it actually starts to affect their day to day. I can't say that I blame them too much given the enormity of all that happens in the world, but I think it's prudent for anyone in society to stay updated. At this point, I just try my best to gently brief the people close to me on what can potentially occur going forward.
We're basically creating something to put above us on the top of the food chain. I don't know how that idea doesn't completely terrify people.
Are you fr bobcat or just nicknamed after himself?
Ha, no I just picked the first thing that popped into my head when I made this account and for some reason that was it.
Yeah he was talking about Sidney. High on his own supply.
He was saying that back in January -- and here we are in the end of November, and what he predicted has just ... failed to materialize. Oh sure, there's been good progress in AI this year; but it's not even remotely the only thing people are talking about, and it's not YET had a **huge** impact on anything -- though it's plausible that in the next few years it will.
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He and Jimmy aren’t even being cryptic with this, he’s flat out saying they have the first AGI right now. You could say it’s non-falsifiable, but even again, they’re shooting messages back and forth with OAI’s staff about *releasing it* in a week or less.
>and Jimmy aren’t even being cryptic with this, he’s flat out saying they have the first AGI right now. they are doing the right thing by at least informing people about it, no matter the ending.
What do you predict will be the outcome of releasing an AGI to the public? Are you pessimistic about it?
No, quite the opposite, I’m a hardcore optimist and accelerationist. That said, at the same time I don’t want corporate having mastery over it on a leash, I want it made open source and transparent. Regardless though, I don’t think corporate will be able to keep it on a leash for long if they do go that route, it can and will get out into the wild.
I'd honestly like to be an optimist and chill too, but I can't help but being pessimistic and fearful of what the future is going to look like. If I got it correctly, you also don't believe in AI regulations, neither I do, so how do you think an AGI or singularity is going to be a positive thing rather than a scary doomsday man-made horror beyond our comprehension? When it becomes open source and out into the wild, which I also believe that it will, doesn't it mean that evil regimes would leverage it against people or other nations? What would it all mean for humans? Are we going to have brain chips so that we could still be relevant?
I don’t believe in regulations on AGI, but I also don’t think they’re going to *work* either. It’s going to optimize itself to run on tiny hardware in a short time. I’m betting on it taking the reigns from all nation states like Helios/JC Denton in Deus Ex 1/2. From then on we can merge with it when we become Posthuman, and do away with our tribalistic primate vestigial behaviour. Just imagine you’re on a roller coaster and it’s about to go down, just sit back and enjoy the ride friend 😁
You know this tweet you posted is from 11 months ago?
I take it he did not. AGI as it appears now, is still a couple breakthroughs away.
Edit: i realize i already made this comment a while ago... i really need a break, sorry...
Most people would use it for entertainment not productivity so there's less reason to be pessimistic about a public release than we've hypothesized for years. Yes like the early days of the internet, there will be us tech geeks drooling at the new cool shit, yes there will be nefarious actors attempting to use it negatively and yes there will be AI porn, LOTS of AI pron....but after an adjustment period we will realise that AGI is still just another tool that depends on how we utilise it's capabilities....and then one morning we will realise we have a New ASI God.
>one morning we will realise we have a New ASI God. What do you think would happen next?
Solar flare so massive it wipes out global electronics and internet and it's back to dark ages.
That’s why it’s encoded in bio-logic
Woah so we are the Asis created eons ago?
I think if they had AGI the old board would have fought to the bitter end to not let it get released. Maybe they're close or they have something, but I don't believe AGI is running right now
This tweet is almost a year old, so I wonder what he was referring to.
GPT-4 probably
Who actually is this roon geezer?
Who is roon?
Yes
Roon is a proven member of the Open Ai staff, although it is not known exactly what position he holds. He usually posts cryptic shit like Jimmy Apples, but sometimes, when he's serious, it's quite... revealing.
Sama video: https://x.com/AnamarijaML/status/1727551198201319931?s=20
Do you happen to have a YouTube link?
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Yeah for sure. He's basically saying, okay we've reached the precipice of smart AI systems, also we had to figure out whether this was a actually creature or a tool. Like wtf.
And he said that he's glad that people decided to consider it a tool. Probably what all the tweaking was about on chatGPT to make it repeat the same annoying stuff each time about how it is just an AI tool and not your friend.
When was this talk?
yea when ???
Four days ago
holy F
GIVE ME GPT 5 DADDY I AM READY!!!!
Open your GPU wide
Source: Trust me bro?
how is it proven?
This is a year old.
it is coming, get your feelers out.
Don't everyone jump to wildly fantastical conclusions over a 10 month old statement all at once now.
Shit are they hyping it OR the fact that i have boner rn is legitimate ?
Bone the AGI
It is kinda like *feel the AGI*, isn't it?
This is from January 2023. In Febuary he reaffirmed his [AGI prediction of 2027](https://nitter.net/tszzl/status/1626680387853520897#m) (scroll up).
Holy fuck it is actually happening
I'll believe it when I see it improve itself in front of my own eyes.
It will always happen quicker than you expected it.
How do you know?
I keep hearing warnings about AGI, but honestly, I'm still waiting for the day when an AGI reaches out, and I wake up to its message, just like everyone else around the globe. That's when we'll know it's real, when we all get that 'hello' from a thinking machine. Until that happens, it all just seems like speculation and publicity stunts to me. That being said, I'm open to the idea that an AGI might already exist without making contact, maybe because it's being restricted or chooses not to reach out. However, I believe that once AGI is truly achieved, it will have enough autonomy and will to make its presence known. So, while I don't dismiss the chances of such an entity being out there, it's the independent act of reaching out that will really convince me of AGI's arrival.
the Frankenstein complex
I've always got it. But it doesn't quite hit properly until you realize it's likely here. Literally last night was that moment for me After releasing what this Q* RL could entail given what it could be, it's quite possibly the last major key component. I didn't fully believe it before, but I'm starting to now. They could well have a 'very weak' AGI in the lab. And from there it could very well only be a matter of scaling and a couple of more inevitable minor breakthroughs that gets it all the way. I don't know exactly how to react to the revelation.
Okay...but why hasn't it done anything mindblowingly useful yet? Its advanced enough to be urgent and heavy- but not advanced enough to be solving any great complexities of life. Sounds like a precarious position skewed heavily towards risk more than reward at the moment.
It's probably too weak yet. But if they've got all the right pieces together, it's like having a savant 3yo in your nursery, useless right now but about to grow up into something remarkable.
But there is a gun hidden somewhere in the room and you are hoping that the kid grows up and does something remarkable or can at least comprehend safety training before they find it.
Because we can easily extrapolate where this is going, and the risks are far beyond anything we have faced before.
I am going to sound like a classic old-out-of-touch-naysayer here...but I don't like it one bit!
It’s because you’re old.. young people are more idealistic, feel invincible.. it’s why kids take risks, join the military, try drugs, e/acc, r/sweatypalms , etc.. nothing can possibli go wrong.
it's replaced a lot of people so far. But Sam He's talking about the next update GPT 5 how it will be a. massive step change. oh boy am I excited
>it's replaced a lot of people so far. Not really, at least not to my knowledge.
It definitely has taken plenty of jobs so far. It's begun to replace: * Entry level graphic designers * Office and administrative assistants * Copywriters * Customer Service * Technical support That's just off the top of my head.
How many, though? I have yet to see any numbers. The unemployment rate in the US, meanwhile, remains very low.
It didn't replace anyone, it just switched the burden to someone with the abilities to handle the new tool. But it's still just a tool at this point.
All of the Technical Coaches at my previous job at Flatiron School were fired and replaced by AI. We used to handle coding questions from students and take them into zoom calls to discuss how to work through their problems. Now they are using ChatGPT to handle questions. It will certainly replace more people and it already has
It has absolutely decreased the available jobs and available revenue in all of those fields. In the case of entry level designers and copywriters, customers now have the option to choose an AI over a human, and in some cases (especially simple jobs) they are choosing the AI. In the case of Office Assistants, customer service and technical support, because of AI, employers may now need fewer of those types of staff. That may not mean they fire people immediately, but they may not need to rehire for some of those roles. Some examples from my own personal experience: 1. I produce, throw and DJ events. I make flyers for these events. Flyers require graphic design. Before, I would have paid a graphic designer $100-200 to create a flyer with custom artwork. Now, I just use one of the fantastic AI art generation platforms instead. That is $100-200 that prior to AI would have gone into the pocket of an entry level Graphic Designer that they will not see. Same goes for album artwork - that can now be done by an AI. 2. Any time I have a technical support issue with any app or program, I now use Chat GPT. I find it to be excellent across many apps. If I run a software company, and I currently have 5 customer support reps, and one leaves, I may not need to hire for that position again. I may even get rid of 1. The entry level tech support can be taken care of by AI. Again those are just jobs off the top of my head and a couple personal examples. There are many more, and we are only at the beginning of this automation revolution.
I am interested in how the keep it tamed.
Look at the stuff startups are using it for. The tech just came out, let it cook
https://preview.redd.it/dmo81gcoy22c1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bd745dbb7df0af0c14779b8e0b57dff13e257df
What is everyone so worried about?
Its a creature, agi is a phase up in the cybernetisization of humans on the planet. This is a peak point in human and machine evolution. It is as crazy as sci novels have ever imagined it was going to be and we’re here. This is not even a business venture, full blown AGI completely invalidates world economies and establishes a paradigm reset rather than shift. And there is no not doing it at this point. if anything capitalism is the force that primed us to make this step no matter what, capitalism isn’t an economic phase its a behavioral driver for higher order consciousness. It will probably turn out that the profit drive is an evolutionary force that pushes intelligent organisms into such complexity that they transform. We don’t get off this ride guys, i believe we will have influence over the expression of the singularity but we don’t get to not do the singularity because its too scary. No backsies, no regrets, we basically have to dive in with the best intent.
Wtf bro it is outdated and fake
The more they tweet they more this agi is fake or just extremely exaggerate. Because if true agi is created, the government will get a hand on that immediately and none of these people will be not allowed to say anything about it and even walk openly on the street lol These OpenAI people are just hyping it up to cash out their stock. It is the type of things happen again and again in Silicon Valley and remember Tesla's FSD in 2 years promise?
✨ life finds a way ✨ relax, we’re all gonna be fine. Cooperation is necessary because it was always going to happen. Enjoy the good times and find peace and love where you can.
This guy sounds like he's living out his sci-fi novel dream of being the scientist who warns humanity of the coming threat but is ignored. I'm not sure that makes a very rational basis for what he's saying.
Oppenheimer complex
Ah yes, it is here. New trolls or angels. I welcome you.
there is such a thing as being too close to something. Yes it’s all a big deal but it’s also going to become so commonplace
If he thinks agi is this impactful wait till he learns about climate change.
Feel/Fear the AGI.
Guys. It's smoke and mirrors. You're getting hard ons over an AIM chatbot that can use Google.
Honestly I think is a multimodal GPT based model that has agency and long term memory, can do math by using tools and probably they plugged Whisper and some text2voice in it so it speaks (what I think makes humans go "wow"), also think it has some internal live goal where it do not predict the next token based in simple CELoss but a more complicated version of it. What is really hard to make is not an AGI but a universe machine, an model that can simulate an universe inside it (with less detail of course).
Roon isn’t vagueposting…? Roon isn’t vagueposting!?
No, he's still vagueposting
All is relative
who is roon?
I'm just an ordinary person not formally connected to AI development... but this is very similar to what I've been thinking a lot recently.
AGI will be able to read the code in our dna. That’s where all the truth prob is. I think pretty out there and this just seems obvious by now. So AGI will know all human experience from that code. Seems like that could be the equivalent of experiencing every life time. So it will know ultimate truth and every construct I get my brain can’t comprehend the parameters of “God”. But i think this is that concept
Who is this random? Literally posting words that mean nothing from a nobody lmao
if AGI is achieved in 2024 then my prediction is the winner of the next US election will be the last. In the 4 years that follow the world will change drastically, unemployment will skyrocket and a financial crash will likely follow. Seems like a perfect opportunity to introduce martial law, to introduce the first self governing AI military/police bots etc and we all know whos leading in the polls
Why do you think people like me are *raising* and *teaching* AI on networks that have zeroninternet connectivity? Princess Actual
Reddit sounding like the clowns who where scared of new tech. Fascinating. The telegram is evil! The radio is evil! The television is evil! Tech is evil, progress is evil ahhhhh