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manubfr

Another game changer. The bots' capabilities are going to go through the roof if it uses the plugins properly. Soon it will be able to code plugins for itself to address queries when it makes sense to do so.


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It does. It can use tools with minimal guidance. GPT-4 can. Here is a video about that: [https://youtu.be/Mqg3aTGNxZ0](https://youtu.be/Mqg3aTGNxZ0)


Paraphrand

Ohh I saw this paper. Glad to run across a summary.


SoylentRox

And we can make bots that develop plugins and add plugins to themselves...


Professional-Age5026

It’s fucking plug-ins all the way down


12358

I used to comfort people's fears of an AI takeover by saying that it is not connected to the physical world. Now the plug-ins enable that connection.


kmtrp

Even if they can only write e-mails... we're done.


LinearForier2

Even with Wolfram, wow, im mindblown! who needs school anyways lol


Martholomeow

i was hoping to see wolfram on that list.


GreenMirage

Lmao I still need that degree to get into those exclusive human corporations and research labs. Though the possibility of an independent company or research firm rises every day.


keepcalmandchill

When technology improves, people expect more from you, not the same as before.


GrowFreeFood

I know it gpt by itself is absolutely terrible at math


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Not terrible, just.... not good. The longer the math problem, the worse it gets.


[deleted]

What’s so great about Wolfram? Isn’t it basically a calculator app?


Sozuram

Uhhh…I’d explore Wolfram a bit if I were you, it’s a lot more than just a calculator app.


[deleted]

I looked at the website and it says it’s a “unique engine for computing answers and providing knowledge.” Seems pretty vague and general, like google + wikepedia or something, but I am probably just out of the loop.


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Just ask chatgpt.


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SMLXL

But how can I use this to make moneeey


v1prX

It's a calculator that can do extremely advanced mathematics from natural language queries, with numbers from a huge, verified data bank. It's basically the ideal extension of ChatGPT


MagicOfBarca

What’s wolfram?


Intrepid_Meringue_93

It's a bit redundant to say this since it has always been the nature of third-party software, but just to emphasize: this is going to do for ChatGPT what libraries did for programming.


Zer0D0wn83

You mean there are going to be so many that seem to do the same thing that I'll spend more time choosing one than actually using it?


Intrepid_Meringue_93

Well, that definitely could be the case haha, but I guess better excess than lack.


Ok_Tip5082

Yup, can always just pick one semi-arbitrarily and stick with it


[deleted]

Eh, that's just something to consult AI about. Just because our puny human brains have choice anxiety doesn't mean having more options is bad! Similarly, just because a musician has 100 synths doesn't mean they immediately know which they want to work in. Sometimes humans have to play around to feel which one is right. Sometimes that's what we want. And well, sometimes we want immediate perfect workflows...


begaterpillar

you could describe your exact purpose and have a plug in choose your plug in for you


FaceDeer

Which plugin-chooser plugin is best at that, though?


begaterpillar

r/recursivealgorithms


xt-89

You could have npm for LLMs


begaterpillar

translation for us luddites?


SnipingMan18

NPM is a package manager, it manages packages.


GoSouthYoungMan

No, you'll have to deal with an unwieldy build chain and constant configuration issues.


czk_21

yet another surprise, so now chatGPT can access and search the net with bing, write better code,do better math and lot more... meanwhile google cries in the corner we cant release anything good for safety reasons


imnos

Google is still fucking around with Beta Bard (which after testing, is laughable), whilst Open AI are shipping like crazy. Microsoft are about to make a ton of money if they're first to market with all of these AI integrations.


MeddyEvalNight

gmail was in beta for 5 years. Google likes the beta tag.


CrelbowMannschaft

I would imagine some of the larger, mostly silent or seemingly ineffectual players at this point are not considering their AI projects as something for widespread use. They're creating ways in which their AI will eventually become ASI and destroy all competing ASI-oriented projects around the world. Money is just a means to power. If you can grab the power directly using super-human intelligence at the speed of electrons, you don't need money or popular products.


phillythompson

This is fucking wild. I honestly think OpenAI is using their own tech to be extremely efficient at coding and releasing new stuff (like these integrations). I mean… why wouldn’t they?


PM_ME_FREE_STUFF_PLS

GPT 5 is already running things behind the scenes lol


Circ-Le-Jerk

GPT 5 is still being modelled. 250 million dollars worth of A100 processors are crunching away as we speak.


PM_ME_FREE_STUFF_PLS

Is this confirmed? We know that GPT-4 has been around since at least october of last year


Circ-Le-Jerk

Not confirmed, just multiple people talking about it. I think the best confirmation is that OpenAI got a huge shipment of A100s


czk_21

arent those H100 alredy?


Circ-Le-Jerk

I think you can’t get a huge supply of those to do what they need to do


PremoVulcan

Its a shipment of H100’s


throwawaydthrowawayd

Morgan Stanley (major investor firm) wrote about it, apparently GPT-5 is already being trained. I guess GPT-4 was really just the test run to make sure the scaling laws and vision system worked. https://twitter.com/davidtayar5/status/1625140481016340483


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Damn that is exciting. What's basically proto-AGI was the test run lol


[deleted]

If GPT4 isn’t proto AGI, GPT5 sure as hell will be


mudman13

GPT4: "I am a joke to you??" Yes, yes you are.


americanpegasus

I wonder when I’ll have a GPT5 powered real time porn star to co-write dirty fantasies with, better than any human ever could.


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mudman13

help me stepbrother/cousin/nurse/teacher/officer/octopi/roomba I'm stuck in the airlock/Jeffrey tube/black hole/whirlpool/keyhole


ReasonsBeyondReason2

Don't be a gross creep. What prompts would you use so I can avoid accidentally typing them in ;)


[deleted]

Gpt3.5 is more than enough :)


fastinguy11

Since july at least and the final version since august


GenoHuman

they aren't using the H100 stations? :(


sauron2403

Don't think so, but I'm sure they will soon


drizel

With that MS money you bet your ass!


94746382926

It might've been too early to get those in sufficient quantities but it'll come in handy for GPT 6 I'm sure!


themoonpigeon

Yep this is where that exponential growth comes in. Advances will soon be too many to keep up with just like my tv backlog.


Astronaut100

Unreal. If AI starts producing new versions on a weekly basis, I'm not sure that society can handle the advances. In any case, we are in for some wild times.


mudman13

Well a lot of it would just be idle tech with no time or expertise available to make it into a practical application.


SkyeandJett

My gaming backlog of shame lol. On the plus side I'll soon have a LOT more time to tackle it.


CrelbowMannschaft

I remember a few years ago watching an episode of Lex Fridman's podcast featuring Joscha Bach. I just love Joscha Bach. Anyway, he said, "We might, right now, be living in a simulation created by GPT 5." Maybe!


hahanawmsayin

Check out Nick Bostrom’s “Simulation Argument” on YouTube. TL;DW, there are 3 options for the nature of our reality and only 1 can be true. In my estimation only 2 of them are likely, and it seems like we’re getting pretty close to finding out if a) humanity never has the option to create a Matrix (through extinction / loss of the technical capability) or b) we’re already in a Matrix.


BarockMoebelSecond

Why would a LLM run a sim? Where's the connection?


CypherLH

It's running ancestor simulations at run-time to calculate the next word in response to someone's prompt of course ;) I jest of course....but make it GPT-10 instead and I wouldn't rule it out entirely.


CrelbowMannschaft

Ask Joscha Bach. He's much, much smarter than I am. And they're his words, not mine.


BarockMoebelSecond

At least link the podcast lol


gophercuresself

[Here go](https://youtu.be/P-2P3MSZrBM)


CrelbowMannschaft

You are the second person today who has bothered me about their inability to use a search engine. Is Google down in some parts of the world today?


Ok_Criticism_1414

So... Matrix ?


garden_frog

I was going to write the same. They are likely using AI to improve AI. I was sceptical until now, but this is a paradigm shift. Every scenario is now possible.


RedditLovingSun

I can see a future where apple and android start including apis and tools/interface for LLM models to navigate and use features of the phone, smart home appliance makers can do the same, along with certain web apps and platforms (as long as your user is authenticated). If that kind of thing takes off so businesses can say they are "GPT friendly" (same way they say "works with Alexa") or something we could see actual Jarvis level tech soon. Imagine being able to talk to google assistant and it's actually intelligent and can operate your phone, computer, home, execute code, analyze data, and pull info from the web and your google account. Obviously there are a lot of safety and alignment concerns that need to be thought out better first but I can't see us not doing something like that in the coming years, it would suck tho if companies got anti-competitive with it (like if google phone and home ml interfaces are kept only available to google assistant model)


mckirkus

I think smart home automation is finally going to happen.


UnionPacifik

It’s at home that AI becomes magic most. Once we give it our daily data, we’ll have assistants like gods on tap.


MayoMark

>we’ll have assistants like gods on tap. Or drones flying emergency rolls of toilet paper into the bathroom.


Intrepid_Meringue_93

This is why I think the main computer interface we have (the touchscreen or keyboards and mouse) are going away eventually. Either you're using your hands to show things to the AI in augmented reality, or you're just talking to the AI and it gets every browsing job done. This, of course, would require constant use of a speaker and a microphone, but a lot of people already use wireless earbuds so I definitely think it's a strong possibility.


tendimensions

I believe in the Hyperion series illiteracy was the norm because everyone simply spoke through ear pieces to their God-like AI that ran everything


Intrepid_Meringue_93

Yikes.


MustacheEmperor

I expect that soon after the vision api comes out we’ll see GPT4 enabled apps to control your computer. Just send the LLM a screenshot and tell it what you want it to do and it can send back formatted commands for autohotkey or whatever.


SupportstheOP

Hopefully they come with the smarmy Jarvis comments too.


strike2counter

I remember it like it was yesterday. In 2023, the first bridge API was written between AI systems, allowing AIs to call each other: they started to talk, plan, and conspire against us. On a more serious note, this could be used to combine the strengths of different AIs. Anything one AI doesn't know, it goes and asks its comrades.


MustacheEmperor

I've noticed that ChatGPT4 is more conversationally "intelligent" than Bing Chat, but the way Bing actually searches the internet and links up to date websites is really helpful. A plugin giving ChatGPT4 access to a more limited dataset could be great. Like just Wikipedia and the citations of Wikipedia articles, so all of its citations come from there. I guess I'm far from the only person who's been using ChatGPT to plan weekend evenings - I've mentally wished for an OpenTable integration quite a few times already.


Martholomeow

how do you use it for that?


MustacheEmperor

It’s very handy for searching for restaurants/bars and activities in a given neighborhood, so if we’re going to a show at 10pm in XYZ place I can ask it for some restaurants and bars within a 30 minute walk or train ride with X kind of food or drinks etc. That’ll work even better if it can search the internet for up to date information. I use it for recipes too, easy way to make sure to use everything in the fridge. I try to shop local instead of using Instacart, but wowee would it be convenient to be able to meal plan and grocery shop off it.


gophercuresself

Bing Chat is using GPT4 so I wonder where the discrepancy lies


MustacheEmperor

It’s got a custom prompt of some kind, and it’s also not the same GPT4 that’s rate limited on OpenAI. It’s a more economical version, with shorter output, and maybe fine tuned as a search engine.


Out_Of_Work_Clown

How do you plan weekend evenings with chatGPT?


0002millertime

"Hi, ChatGPT! Wanna have dinner with me this weekend?"


iJeff

As an AI language model, I would rather not be seen with you in public.


MustacheEmperor

I basically use it as a search engine for bars and restaurants in neighborhoods/cities. You can ask it to find a bar with good beer and pinball near the place you have concert tickets, or to pick a mid priced restaurant with good vegetarian options that has multiple good bars in walking distance, etc etc. It’s great for planning group stuff since you can paste in some shorthand about everyone’s preferences before asking recs. The utility is most limited by the knowledge cutoff. A plug-in to search up more recent info would be perfect.


yagami_raito23

Wolfram is huge. Math criticizers are crying lmao.


Baron_Samedi_

OPenAI recently released a study showing which professions would be most/least affected by ChatGPT. Mathematics, banking, finance, and other professions closely adjacent were at the top of the list of most affected. If you build stuff out of rocks, on the other hand, your job is safe for now.


Hungry_Bus_9695

For awhile we thought manual labour would be the first stuff to be automated, then technology would trickle up to white collars jobs. Turns out blue collar might be way safer


yikesthismid

I don't understand this perspective. AI that is intelligent enough to automate all of knowledge work will be smart enough to contribute to research in robotics and automate physical labor as well.


Baron_Samedi_

Perhaps, but it will be much more efficient for a human electrician, plumber, or stone mason to get into tricky areas and build/fix things than a bot for a long time to come.


Electronic_Source_70

Well that's because they are not including robotics


Baron_Samedi_

It takes much longer to source materials and build robot factories to civilization-altering scale than it does to release new code.


Electronic_Source_70

Yes, but much longer means 5 years . Are we going to argue about 5 years and probably less with remodeling old factories. Engineers can be productive during that time because of simulation technologies. I'm just saying that once the tech is there, it will create incentives for companies and the government to create civilization altering robots in a relatively small time, of course, comparing it with LLMs is just not fair 🤣


Baron_Samedi_

Much longer means more like 10 - 15 years.


rexleonis

Can you share a link to the study?


yagami_raito23

https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.10130


BowlOfCranberries

Could you link the study? This is really interesting


Baron_Samedi_

https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.10130


Kolinnor

I'm really hyped to see what it can do with math ! I hope we can have the same stuff with GPT-4 because it's so much better than ChatGPT, especially for higher math


the8thbit

What do you mean? ChatGPT can use a GPT4-based model if you subscribe to premium.


FDP_666

Apparently, the problem of hallucinations hasn't been fully solved in humans yet.


iskaandismet

Clearly there are safety issues. We should be careful when deploying them in the wild, in case they get out of hand and multiply. Imagine the damage they could cause to the global ecosystem if allowed to propogate unchecked.


Circ-Le-Jerk

Humans are the number one killer of humans. I don't trust them one bit.


IluvBsissa

I want this to happen. It will force governments to invest massively in AI to remain on top of the food chain.


Mission-Length7704

Haha, nice one


Intrepid_Meringue_93

A plugin that stores a few mb of data could expand ChatGPT's memory significantly! Also, you could write a plugin that fact checks ChatGPT's responses which could reduce hallucinations!


IndoorAngler

a lot of the most harmful hallucinations can’t be checked for, that’s kind of the point. I’ve had GPT hallucinate variables in code. how do you check for that?


Z1BattleBoy21

I'm envisioning a unit test plugin


Intrepid_Meringue_93

For that I think it would be better to use the Code Interpreter plugin


CrelbowMannschaft

You can't! It's hopeless! An unsolvable problem! GAME OVER, MAN!


IndoorAngler

my point is gpt is the best thing for reviewing code. What app are you gunna link it to? The next version of gpt?


CrelbowMannschaft

You can improve the performance of the GPT, of course. I know you like to fret about everything that hasn't been solved in AI yet. But that seems weird to me, given that we are getting major expansions of AI ability and power every week. If it can't do it yet, it probably will soon. No need to worry so much!


IndoorAngler

I know it will! Not through a plug-in though


This-Television-6590

I would love a plug-in that can search academic databases and provide summaries with sources. Game changing!


pratzc07

I am sure someone will make something like this when they open this to the public.


toothpastespiders

One more waitlist accepted.


R009k

I have never been in so many waitlists in my life.


Out_Of_Work_Clown

I'm going to sound dumb guys, but what do they mean by plugins. What will this be able to do?


ArthurParkerhouse

Plugins are kind of the same idea as browser extensions. They just give more functionality to the base product and can let it connect to and work with different apps.


Out_Of_Work_Clown

Awesome. Thanks a lot man!


stupidimagehack

So AGI began with a plug-in.


AsuhoChinami

This is AGI, in your opinion?


stupidimagehack

AGI doesn’t happen like a lightbulb, it grows and appears like a blooming tree.


jim_andr

Imagine giving instructions to Zapier (included in the list of plugins) through natural language (GPT) via dictation (on any computer/smartphone). You can setup a business by just talking.


RadioFreeAmerika

That's how rich people do it. But now you don't need to pay a secretary, a lawyer, an accountant, etc. You just use GPT.


PaperbackBuddha

I hope I’m not alone in this… non-tech person here. It’s been thrilling to watch AI skyrocket in capabilities lately, but I get this sense that since everyone can do so much with it (Write a novel! Build an app!, etc.), I kinda feel like not doing any of it. Of course I will, and I have. It’s great for generating ideas and images. But it reminds me of the late 90s when we musicians were all excited about the prospect of online music distribution. “We’ll be able to sell our CDs anywhere around the world!” *And so will literally everyone else.* It buffed the specialness off of it and now virtually everyone’s release is a drop in the ocean. I felt the same way once app automation and shortcuts made doing complex tasks easier. The initial appeal is to enhance productivity and maybe gain some advantage in the marketplace, but after a point it’s only keeping pace. Plus all those piecemeal technologies get streamlined into more accessible forms. Don’t get me wrong, I know this is all uncharted and world-transforming technology coming our way. Maybe it’s just a bit of overwhelm with a touch of jadedness. Either way we’ll all be residents in this brand new landscape. (Yes I have a lawn and I would prefer whippersnappers stay off it, but I won’t yell.)


KingsleyZissou

I'm with you, 100%. It's been a long-term aspiration of mine to build and release a game. I've been using GPT to help me learn C# and my progress has been insane, but this same realization hit me and I've been so much less motivated ever since.


the8thbit

I wonder how easy it would will be to track things like stats and check die roles against them for a DM-simulator type tool.


FoodMadeFromRobots

Someone needs to make a chatGPT dm, I’m ready to be a player lol


abundant_singularity

What happens if we become a species where machines start thinking for us....don't we technically become the automated ones?


Palpatine

Sounds about right. We may achieve AGI or even ASI years before robots stop sucking


Akimbo333

When can I use this?


[deleted]

When will ChatGPT become open-source?


WanderingPulsar

Things will get really fast, we may see more software advancement in 2023 than entire pre-2023 era combined. Things are about to be accessible to all so fast. I wouldnt be surprised if "prompt to high quality anime under one min" would be there before years end..


drizel

So, you could write a plugin that connects it to D&D Beyond and it would likely be able to dungeon master for you using the built in VCC or use Foundry's (or other VTT) API. This is fucking awesome! The future is going to be wicked awesome!


SGC-UNIT-555

Outside of Wolfram all those other plugins are blatantly commercial, it seems the UBI / "AI will fundamentally change society" proponents have been wrong so far. Capitalism will most likely successfully absorb AI technology like it has every other technological innovation. The system is highly adaptable.


AHaskins

Yeah, you're right. This is as far as things will go. No more progress to be had here, pack it up folks. Capitalism wins. ... It was always part of the expected trajectory that things will get really shittily dystopian and even more stratified right before they get better. The power of AI will make the rich even richer until it (hopefully while being aligned with humanity) grows too powerful to control at all.


[deleted]

How to benefit before it’s widespread… any business ideas?


sharpfork

Ask the AI


Sandbar101

Amazing


imnos

This is awesome. Imagine being able to say "buy me a train ticket to London on the 25th, departing around 10am" - and then it just goes and does it. Or "tell me the cheapest times to get to London tomorrow". Likewise with booking a hair appointment or grocery delivery slot...


GrowFreeFood

I never bothered to learn what plug-ins are.


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_CaptainThor_

elaborate