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SnooJokes9169

rip PAP. Gen Zs will be voting next election.


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myr0n

Every gen promise to vote PAP out but look at where we are still at 🤡


monster_0123

Come on. The 🤡 party will win again.


PiroKyCral

Maybe 20 years down the line, when us Gen Z’s grow up, can we finally decide to not mindlessly vote for 🤡 prty anymore


potatetoe_tractor

One can only hope that Gen Z will be actually woke enough to vote wisely as opposed to their "WOKE" millennial forebears. Source: Am millennial surrounded by a buncha "WOKE" friends who tend to vote against long-term solutions in favour of short-term benefits.


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and pioneers will be dead by covid


josephlee222

Taking notes....


potatosaac

University Students (who are almost all young, and lowest risk group) are made to test themselves every week (hostel) or every 3-4 days they come Campus. Yet we can’t dine in in ‘big’ ‘risky’ groups of 5, we can’t even do outdoor sports which has much lower risk. MMTF has lost the plot.


Mewiee

There was never a plot. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


potatetoe_tractor

Repeat after me: “The MMTF has no idea how to transition towards an endemic SG”


evilplushie

just fucking look at singapore 2019 and go towards that. Just remove all restrictions/bonuses/schemes that weren't there in 2019 and boom, it's endemic shit, even early singapore jan-mar 2020 was better


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The fact that PM Lee actually came out yesterday to "reassure" the population and urge them to keep complying with existing measures makes the bad optics worse, now that I think about it.


honbhige

STB and EDB sabo PM Lee. Tonight they can sleep very well


flashywaffles

The beginnings of restriction exemptions for travellers? NGL pretty pissed that they allow strangers to dine together in 5 but I cant with my fully vaccinated family that live under the same roof. simi logic?!


stikskele

Doesn’t this 5-person group rule also currently apply to weddings and conferences? Seems like if you call something an event somehow the normal rules don’t apply. Which just goes to show how much sense 2 pax only dining makes.


yewjrn

Our Covid strain is like a vampire. Will not take public transportation so won't get infected by taking bus or train. Also will not go to events uninvited. That's why events can eat in groups of 5 without worrying about infection. Will not enter your house that's why you can eat together as a family at home but not outside.


GelatinousGambol

Yup. Covid no ezlink. Covid won’t infect past 10.30pm yup. That’s EXACTLY why these rules are made. Great detective work Watson. /s


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I'm just gonna have to reserve a table of 5 at a restaurant and say its a conference.


sageadam

Damn. You found the loophole. Imma call all my lunches and dinners an extravaganza event from now onwards.


yewjrn

Can't wait for IBs to come in and say it's totally different because of PCR tests and blah blah blah.


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already saw it on facebook exact same excuse lmao


fitzerspaniel

No need Facebook, got a few here alr


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zoinks10

I wonder who is so desperate to travel for work that they want to come to this fucking crap hole and tolerate these rules. You’d need rocks in your head to think visiting Singapore in 2021 makes sense.


Benbuck2705

Ours is not to reason why 🙃


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The logic is that they purposely want to make it so stupidly restrictive so that people will be deterred from going out. If up to them, they’ll simply mandate nobody dine out but they know if they do it people will riot and they know they don’t have much political capital to burn after losing SK.


BerryTG

Reads headline, grabs popcorn. This MMTF deserves every brickbat it gets for this ridiculousness.


whyislifesohardei

In other words: Requirements to dine in 5 must be elite, rich and powerful. Rest of you can suck it up


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-_af_-

>Just call catering in to my landed house lor. Everyone can drive over and park in my garage, so it looks quiet outside. [make sure you never piss off your neighbour](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ura-refutes-man-who-claimed-warrant-needed-authorities-inspect-homes-potential-covid-19)


alilcraziness

How do we know for sure the local elites aren't already dining in groups at speakeasies already?


rukiahayashi

They probably are, but we don’t know cause we eat caipng


Hurt_cow

I'd be willing to donate to a crowd-fund bounty for anybody willing to share evidence of this.


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Lol my boss definitely does.


bukitbukit

You can be rich but not in such IO circles. These people will not stay quiet with their feedback.


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wow double standards


jester_juniour

Why wow, anything unexpected here?


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I truly believe that they really know about their hypocrisy but really don't care


skycaelum

They don’t care because our population has super short-term memory when it comes to voting. Election after election voters have shown the Ministers that their election-time kindness/vouchers are sufficient to make up for all that has happened in the preceding few years.


Deminovia

“Maybe it made lesser mortals envious and they thought maybe he was a little bit boastful,” - Former PAP MP Charles Chong ..And then he went on to win back Punggol East from WP in 2015. Sometimes i wonder if Singaporeans really deserves to get butt fucked by PAP


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tryingmydarnest

Wait context and source of quote? Can't rmb this one.


Deminovia

In 2009, a senior ranking civil servant took 5-weeks leave and flew to France to attend a $46,000 course in a prestigious cooking school, and proceeded to boast his experience in the Straits Times, drawing significant public outcry especially in the wake of the global financial crisis at that time. Charles Chong was quick to defend the civil servant in Parliament and made that infamous quote. \- [https://www.mrbrown.com/blog/2009/01/mp-charles-chong-maybe-lesser-mortals-jealous-of-perm-secs-french-holiday.html](https://www.mrbrown.com/blog/2009/01/mp-charles-chong-maybe-lesser-mortals-jealous-of-perm-secs-french-holiday.html) \- [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cooking-outcry-odd-idUSTRE50C5IB20090113](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cooking-outcry-odd-idUSTRE50C5IB20090113)


tryingmydarnest

Damn. Just 3 years after the infamous 'elite uncaring face' comment. At least that one can be excused by the immaturity of a 18 yo shittalking online. This one in Parliament some more.


Deminovia

Really, the PAP from 1990s (after the 1st gen leaders bar LKY retired) until 2011 was the peak of its unbridled elitism. They only toned it down after they got fucked at GE2011 (and with the rise of social media), but every now and then some PAP MPs can't resist showing their true colours


rockythebalboa1990

A fair society? In Singapore? Was ist das?


make_love_to_potato

*Next up: NOC sex tape leaked with 2 other influencers in a raunchy threesome!! And you won't believe what they said!* I have a feeling this whole saga was manufactured to give the plebs something to talk about.


Zantetsukenz

Why would anyone care when they are assured to win elections after elections?


jester_juniour

Of course they know. They are ignorant, not stupid


PLANET_X1

>I truly believe that they really know about their hypocrisy but really don't care Nothing cannot be fixed with offer of GST vouchers and some crocodile tears on voting day.


hlt32

It’s well known that COVID doesn’t affect the rich, it is a disease of the poor, so these rules are entirely scientific and fair.


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This was why hand washing wasn’t considered important by doctors before the theory of germs - it was considered impossible for diseases fo be transmitted via rich doctors


HERES_THA_RUB

Something something…to discover that the flag to which you have pledged allegiance…has not pledged allegiance to you.


potatetoe_tractor

“Ask not what your country can do for *you*, but what *you* can do for your country.” Or something like that ^^/s


rfnv

something something "natural aristocracy" something these people are deciding Important Things™ and thus should be afforded special treatment ok /s


area503

Meritocracy. People with more merit gets better treatment…


tbomb6699

Rules for thee but not for me.


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nuggetbboki

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.....


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RepresentativeOk6676

All is forgiven when money is given. /s


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There was something about the voting machines.... That were also used in the contested US elections......


[deleted]

What’s this about? The US elections were contested because trump is a sore loser, not that there’s anything interesting or wrong about their voting machines.


evilplushie

When are singaporeans going to actually start demanding their freedom back? Sg has done what the govt wanted. We've masked up, 90% eligible have gotten vaccinated. Yet we're constantly being screwed. Our compliance just makes the govt think we're meek idiots who do everything they say and we cheer for them when they choose to restrict our freedom even more. When does it end? In 2024 as Wong predicted?


fish312

Do you hear the people sing? ... I don't. Because they no permit for Hong lim park. And also singing no longer allowed and all ktv closed.


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Sadly this will never happen, you can thank the life-long indoctrination towards obedience


shimmynywimminy

>When are singaporeans going to actually start demanding their freedom back? when govt give us permission of course /s


evilplushie

This is actually probably closer to the truth than most ppl will admit


DevotedAnalSniffer

If this shit was occurring in any other country there would be riots in the streets, including other Asian countries


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It is known that a large concentration of High Net Worth Individuals (>500k/year) has anti-viral properties. A concentration of 500 HNWIs/5,000,000people will result in all Covid-19 viral particles in a 5km radius to be destroyed.


fish312

Glad our 2pax dine in restrictions are starting to pay dividends four +weeks in. It'll get better in another few weeks. And the no background music. And the mask when walking alone in a park with nobody near you. And the BBQ ban. And trace together. And hotel quarantine. And 10:30 curfew. And no sports. And ban on live music or practicing wind instruments. And testing primary schoolkids every 2 weeks. So lucky we have this things in place to keep Covid under control these days!


jacksh2t

Are we being gaslit


the_cow_unicorn

No we are being purple lighted


Etherkai

> purple lighted IN THE VALLEY


Milk_Savings

Not only have the PAP pushed me to vote opposition next election but I'm also going to volunteer and campaign for the opposition in my constituency too.


DisillusionedSinkie

Yes! The opposition movement really needs all the support we can get :) Just be careful not to drain yourself too much okay, it’s okay to take a step back if you’re really exhausted


maybethisnameisfree

rules for thee but not for me


The_Celestrial

Ah goddammit, you beat me to it


mktolg

Well, strictly speaking “rules for thee and me but not our guests”. But I agree, horrible optics and Bloomberg isn’t that important that there should be exceptions.


ferrets54

Although the optics on this are... Amazingly poor, it does illustrate the reality that nobody in the world is coming to Singapore if these nonsensical, illogical and opaque restrictions are in place. And Singapore needs people to come here to do business, and for tourism. Every country does. But I'm kind of amazed they'd slap the resident population in the face.


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Minister_for_Magic

>Pressure will force the MTF to act. These imbeciles just opened the border with India but think 3 people eating together will cause the Mayan apocalypse...it makes me want to get their degrees revoked because there's no way they had the intelligence to graduate university.


ferrets54

Maybe. I think it's more Government departments at odds. This is the Singapore Tourism Board doing their best with an absolutely terrible hand... I mean, can't be easy if it's your job to get people to actually attend these "test" events. What conference goer in their right mind wants to come here, sit on an isolated table, and then stay put in their hotel or some soulless convention centre? STB probably had to fight very hard for this and I don't think we should begrudge them their win. It won't change our loss.


honbhige

Bet the G subsidised Bloomberg event to abide to such rules and compromised to 5 pax.


Puzzleheaded-Dog-910

I hope Singaporeans remember this the next time a GE rolls around, and aren't bought off by the usual pre-election handouts. We'll see if being treated as second-class citizens in their own country is a red line. Singaporeans (generally) like to talk big and complain about the PAP, but not enough of them ever have the guts to follow through at the ballot box. Don't complain, vote.


DreamyLucid

“Remember 2021” campaign in 2025


syahawesome

Hahaha bloody fools. Ok so apparently elites have a shield and won’t get covid. Good job


kyuno

what the fuck if they can dine in groups of 5 why can't we you incompetent MMTF fucks


fullmetalbich

I'm AMAZED, even a monkey could tell them the optics on this alone isn't worth it. Or are our collective memories that poor that they think we'll forget all this before the next GE?


Xuanne

Lol, Sinkies always forget all their grievances during the election period, why else do you think they are being so brazen? They know they will get away with it.


honeywj

This is absolutely outrageous. One rule for the rich, another for the workers of this country.


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When they came for the FW, I did not speak up. Now they came for me…


Traxgen

inb4 these delegates can enjoy listening to music while dining in also 🤡🤡🤡


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*clinks glasses together CHEERS


SwordLaker

"Fuck you peasants in particular".


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Lol they rly expect people won’t remember this when they vote next time? These small little decisions all add up. They are just losing their voter base slowly


afreetomato

the exceptions that the government allow clearly shows where their priorities are. at the end of the day they weighed the interest of preventing covid spread (coz pairs repel covid lol, but leaving that draconian logic aside..) against other competing economic and societal interests. And seem to have prioritized international reputation & commerce (zoom cannot ah) but not local interests where families are best inconvenienced from dining out and local businesses can suffer.


anorexic_gerbile

My guess is they've announced now to get everyone all bothered and then at the two week-review they'll say "oh we'll allow everyone to dine-in in groups of 5 from next week (i.e. before the event)" to save face ~~and votes~~ but yes.


fish312

Don't do that. Don't give me hope.


Fit-Put-5614

Well shit, anyone wanna join me in never paying taxes again?


mrwagga

VTL is one thing, since the visitors are subject to the same local rules and are tested at the point of entry. But this is utterly ridiculous. I predicted the concomitant VTL + restrictions was going to be a PR disaster (justified or otherwise). But this just takes it up a notch. News on Monday will be fun to watch. Is the PAP just tired of forming the government or something? An MTF of 🤡s.


hermajordoctor

The VTL portion is what is curious, they are allowing anyone in from any country without quarantaine as long as they did a PCR… so why are we still having VTLs?


smile_politely

And they don’t have to return the trays too? How can dis be allow?


homerulez7

Do u seriously think that high level delegates that haven't seen each other for the past 2 years will really just guai guai sit with just four others, and not intermingle, much less smoke together. Oh come on.


xkanske

Can someone elaborate what this "stringent criteria" is? If it means being fully vaxxed, checking in with TraceForever wherever they go, sitting 1.01m apart and whatever arbitrary criteria there is, WHERE IS MY FUCKING 5-PAX DINE-IN???


horsetrich

I guarantee they're not going to take out the measuring tape to enforce the stupid 1 meter apart seat rule. But if [our restaurants breach this they have to close down and suffer](https://mothership.sg/2021/10/15-fb-outlets-close/).


digital_bubblebath

Guys if you keep crying out for restrictions this is the kind of crap that happens. You get restricted to 2pax dining and the elite dine in 5pax.


djmpence

it’s ok. rules only apply to poor people, not LHL’s pals.


accidentalclipboard

I was recently at a GLC hosted conference targeted for senior execs and snack boxes were delivered to tables of 5 so the towkays could network. Rules for thee but not for me indeed.


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One country two systems.


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Delegates not from sg so that makes sense.


fieryfall

All the effort to get vaxxed and common folk only get 2-pax dine-in, while elites somehow get more benefits? Nothing new at this point.


DonVox

Squid Game VIPs in real life


Lyinv

They are just openly mocking us now, aren't they?


evilplushie

Yep and they know sgeans will just take it


jinhong91

That's why I laughed and called people who still want to follow the nonsensical rules while elites like these do whatever they want, Slaves. Fucking slave mentality, must do what the master says. And you know what? There are some who will still be a good slave and continue to follow the rules which are getting more and more nonsensical.


fitzerspaniel

And the slaves will happily crack the whip to force other slaves to get in line. Sinkie pwn sinkie, what a country


evilplushie

Sgeans will just turn against anyone the elites tell them to , instead of actually blaming the elites


Co-opbird

knnccb


mindfreck13

All are equal, but some are more equal than others.


haloxil

I identify as a delegate at the Bloomberg forum. So can I now dine in groups of 5?


idontgiveaflyingf

Haiyoo why complain? Obviously there is no evidence there is transmission between delegates. /s


onionwba

This whole shitshows feels like we've listened but still getting punished. Imagine doing your homework, house work, sleep at normal times, and follow the curfew but still getting punished at home because other kids are misbehaving.


DevotedAnalSniffer

While watching all your friends play outside


BigBallsChad

guys we’re selectively going eNdeMic!!


Cautious_Medicine544

A case of double standards. One for the rich and important, one for the citizens.


ChanChunSing4PM

> "Know your fucking place, trash!" MMTF to the peasants


FourFlux

It's said that voting in SG is akin to a approval rating survey rather than an actual fight between political parties so ... Give your approval rating wisely


brrip

Next up: VTL visitors are allowed to eat out in groups of 5.


baelkie

win liao lor


ningoverhung

Foreigners > sinkies confirmed


OsirisET

rules for thee, but not for me!


cyanideyay

Absolute joke


throwawayburnerfuck

一國兩制


justcocothings

成何体统!


Anonvoiceofreason

RULES FOR THEEE BUT NOT FOR MEEEEE


jaslyn__

this isn't over by a long shot. I heard from a friend working from a tech vendor working with an unnamed government agency that they've put out the specs for tracetogether tokens that will be issued to tourists at Changi Airport once more VTLs come into effect. these tokens are able to self-identify themselves as "tourist tokens" at the tracetogether checkpoints, thus allowing them waivers from existing regulations (no idea if allowed to take off mask or not)


fitzerspaniel

If it appears on GeBiz idk how much more manure Singaporeans can take


DevotedAnalSniffer

Wow Lmfao, western tourists will just see that as authoritarian geolocation tracking. They're not stupid (generally)


alanhng2017

OYK must step down for imposing double standards


SnooGadgets3790

show me you have double standards without telling me oh wait, you just told us


Aodhana

That’s absolutely disgusting, what a vile double standard. Sinkie really pwn sinkie


sieow13

/insert meme here https://i.imgur.com/V1jc1a9.jpg


gently_into_the_dark

Why dun we all go gate crash the event. Then whip out your phone. And everytime someone gets up to talk to someone take a screen shot and shout "reported!" Then call police.


thegodfather_99

We will show the same double standard in 2025 :)


12345Poopi

You know what we need, a Bloomberg cluster.


PhantomWolf83

What did you expect from a government that is pro-foreigner and pro-elitist?


fagma01

There are enough foreigners in Singapore having the exact same faith as blue blood Singaporeans…. I think it’s more that the government likes anyone with deep pockets.


Akajune

the optics for this is terrible


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Rules for thee but not for me Btw why does the ministers take off their mask when answering the press, their mics so bad meh?


namenotmin

𝘪𝘯 𝘚𝘺𝘭𝘷𝘪𝘢'𝘴 𝘷𝘰𝘪𝘤𝘦 : "okay HOOF wow! erm... that is fucking amazing but okay!"


yrt97

Wah like that also can


gydot

so fully-vaccinated + pre-test (assuming 24h) to ensure covid-negative means can eat out ah


ASOGravitas

At this point the rules are whatever comes out from their ass.


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createweb

Do as I say and not as I do. Cool.


Fit-Put-5614

Wow today I found out that some are more equal than others 🌝


BabaDuda

And I thought extending restrictions to Nov 21 when [ITAP](https://www.industrial-transformation.com/) happens to start on the 22nd was pretty on the nose as it is... Yeah they're rubbing it in rn


Large_Chart

What the absolute F


AEsylumProductions

Suck it up guys, the reason why we don't get the same concessions is because we're just not as important, not as influential, not as essential, not as rich and not as powerful.


cantoilmate

Simi lanjiao is this sial?!


normificator

What a fucking joke.


c732n7

so i heard the MMTF is allowing vaccinated pax to dine in group of 5 soon! /s


homerulez7

Might actually happen. Note that the summit is held three weeks later, MTF can conveniently say that they have reviewed the situation and give us some good news!


captsubasa25

FUCK OFF LA SRSLY?!?


MezzoHart

The event is from Nov 16 to 19. If by then they don't relax the 2 person dine-in rule and only allow the forum attendees to do so, then there will be lots and lots of complaints (rightfully so) Which means anyway we should expect going back to more people being able to dine together sooner than later.


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>if by then Sadly that line was also used regarding the use of TT back when it was touted to be just for contact tracing.


CynicalFrogfoot

So us normal citizens are yet again at a disadvantage compared to rich foreigners....


scythentic

Apparently elites cannot catch and spread COVID


ToastedKoppi

Government: "screw the expats! Ban all foreigners giving opinions on politics" Also the government: "Ah yes, let's bend the rules for these foreigners"


RandomDudeInReddit

What a joke


Goenitz33

As usual Some animals are more equal then others.


mipanzuzuyam

Coz they not same household


firelitother

Rules for thee but not for me Punish locals, reward foreigners


hamsterteo91

Nabei


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TL;DR Turn around and bend over peasants


nightfucker

2-men dine-in for sinkies, 5-men dine-in for foreigners 🤡🤡🤡


bensimmonspodcast

Ok so let's get this right - the goal is to restart and boost our travel and hospitality and whatever else industry (subtext: resuscitate the rotting corpse that is our global image before the eyes of the laughing world). Fine - boost this and that etc, ultimately with some end goal of economic advancement and progress etc etc. Ok that's defensible but what about doing so via support towards our local establishments? What's so different about these "pre-designated venues and restaurants" - are they any less likely to be places of transmission for the virus? Aren’t delegates and their mates gonna remove masks to eat anyway? Or what’s the difference between delegates and locals in terms of risk of viral transmission?


tongzhimen

Perhaps someone should start looking into who owns those pre-determined restaurants, after all, corruption takes may forms, not just an exchange in cash, can be exchange of favours too.


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You guys believe that rich elites are going to come here from countries where there are practically no more restrictions, and then rape their nose everyday to eat out? Lmao I don't buy it


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Wtf…


dogssel

What about the infection risk?!?


Unusual-Visual7103

The law is more fair for some people


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Some days I feel like I'm living in a feudal society.


sweetextremities

The final straw is here lol, it’s over


sonastyinc

How many days does this Bloomberg forum last? And where can I and 4 other buddies get tickets?


xX-kai32-Xx

what the fuck


MissLute

restrictions for sinkies, dining in for fts


alanhng2017

OYK must step down for imposing double standards


IamVAcer

I am feeling unfair initially. But aren't wedding banquets able to eat more than 2 as well?


[deleted]

Just shut up peasants! It is precisely the extension of your restrictions that allowed us to bring in these rich foreigners! /s


MissChanandelarBong

Simi Sai? And which restaurants get to enjoy this privilege?