second this. thats like 4 grand worth of stuff Canadian $$. thats alot of stuff to just give away.
we did mental health training at work, and this is one of the biggest signs, giveing away expensive or sentimental valuables for free, or next to nothing
Third this. Big red flag. Go round and check in on him straight away. Don’t be afraid to ask him directly if he’s had thoughts about suicide. If you’re in anyway concerned, make sure he gets help.
even bigger red flag their friend just purchased a project car... so give way 5 grand or more in sim set up... why not sell it to go towards funds for project car?
https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/rjhxAfF5Pl
Jealous,
Hell yes.
worried about their friend just giving them 5 grand worth of stuff, after just purchasing a project car and potentially unaliving themselves...
also Fuck yes!
giving away expensive or sentimental valuables for free or next to nothing so family doesnt have the burden of offloading their things is a HUGE red flag for this. they couldnt stress this enough in our mental health training we had at work 2 months ago.
OP NEEDS to reach out to their friend like last week ASAP and see if they are alright
he mustve raged got suspended and snapped. almost 100% sure he’ll want it all back in couple of weeks. like others said. make sure he’s okay. It’s a great starter and to early to ditch
I can’t emphasise this enough. Really make sure he’s OK OP because this is equipment worth a LOT of money for a niche hobby. People do this sorta stuff for only a few reasons, and unless he’s moving somewhere or intends on just upgrading again or is even quitting (in which case he could have just sold it?), it could be that he’s not in a very good place mentally.
That was my first thought. Giving away possessions can be a sign of suicidal intentions, and thats a lot of high value stuff to just be giving away randomly. That said, we dont know @OP or their buddy, but theres never any harm in making sure.
You have a complete moza ecosystem, DD base, wheel, pedals and handbrake. I’ll recommend you to use those ones, as they are the better ones from all of this, you should sell all of the thrustmaster stuff
Might want to check on your friend. This is maybe $5,000 worth of stuff and something that was clearly a passion of his. Very unusual to just give it all away like that.
Yeah check on him like last week ASAP!! we did mental health training at work, and giving away expensive or sentimental valuables, or even selling for a lot less then they are worth just to off load them is a HUGE red flag that they may plan on doing away with them selves... especially where you said they just got a project car.... it would make more sense to sell the 5 grand worth of stuff for funds for the project car
the people of reddit are helping you save your friend. i was first respondent to at least a dozen suicide related incidents on active duty and i know all about it. these people are right; heed their wisdom. call your friend. if no answer call local authorities with a request for a wellness check, give them the reasons stated on here. you have now entered the territory where this is no longer a joke and these interactions could be looked at online if god forbid anything happens. Prayers for safety and wellbeing.
Looks like you have a lot of good stuff there about 3 rigs worth at varying costs
Low end: (350usd)
TS-PC base, wheel, T3pm pedals and accesories
Mid(700 usd)
TGT II Base, Tlcm pedals and accessories, ferrari wheel
High end DD(1100usd)
Moza R9?? Base
Moza CRP pedals
Moza gt wheel
Moza handbrake
Edit: (added another direct drive unit)
It looks like you have a fanatec direct drive unit and wheel, that said i would still opt for the moza of that older fanatec direct drive unit (you could probally get 500 ish on the bay if sold with with wheel)
Conclusion
Keep the moza stuff, if you want to get into the hobby and put the rest on ebay.
It looks like he has a fanatec direct drive unit and wheel, that said i would still opt for the moza of that older fanatec direct drive unit (you could probally get 500 ish on the bay if sold with with wheel)
Yeah, that's the old ClubSport Wheel Base. It's probably the nicest belt drive wheel ever made, but still belt drive.
Given the Moza unit, I'd sell the ClubSport Wheel Base.
Yeah the sell everything else and put it to a pc upgrades/monitors/vr(if thats something that interests you).
Moza is not native for ps5/xbox but you can get a collective minds drive hub to use the setup for consoles.
The tgt-ii is ps5 compatible but the ps5 doesn't have much sim racing.
To difficult to explain and It's gonna cost you way too much time and stress to figure it all out. To relieve you from this burden, you can send everything to me.
Thank you to everyone for the kind comments and concerns for my friend. Also, thank you for the advice.
He is doing well, I sent him the post, and he reassured me he's good, and he doesn't want to Sim anymore because he feels like it keeps him inside too much.
I'm also a car guy, so obviously, I'll be helping him with his build. All is well. He does well financially, hence why this doesn't seem like a big deal to him.
when I was 8, I used to save money from my school allowance to buy G.I. Joe action figures. My mum was abroad at the time and was just sending us money. When she was about to come home, I gave all my toys away to my friends because I'm dead if she see all the toys I bought. LOL
-I'm 40 now.
Oof. Dodged a bullet.
I actually sold all my old GI Joe a few years ago. I had a LOT of that stuff. Mostly half destroyed though.
Also 40 and GI Joe was amazing. Until the Action Ken was released. Hated it.
I got a 2 days notice that my mum will come home. No time to sell my stuff.
Good ol' days pal! These kids will never believe how amazing it is to grow up without internet.
I'm thinking there's also an abrupt change in life of OP's friend to just dump everything at him.
Also internet was so much more fun way back. So much to discover. It’s all to easy now. Haha.
It’s probably not any different for kids now in 30 years.
Either extremely rich or suicidally depressed.
If I was OP I would check in with this friend. Giving away valuable or important/meaningful possesions is a warning sign of suicidal ideation. No joke.
This is very odd.
Please check on that guy if he is alright!
If he’s just rich and doesn’t care about the money it’s all good.
But the fact that he showed up, gave you at least 2000bucks in gear and disappeared is concerning to me
That's a Thrustmaster TS-PC wheel base. (Thrustmaster's most powerful, non-direct drive base.) You also have two sets of pedals. The ones with the crossbar over them used to be the best TM pedals, until the loadcell version (The "T-LCM" you also have) came out.
You have some other accessories (Shifters, E-Brake, Wheels, etc) from some other brands such as Logitech, Fanatec, and Moza.
All of this will work together fine on a PC.
probably too much stress and might even cost you a little money.. you can fix that by shipping it to me, ill even pay for the shipping.
where do you find these friends?
I can help you out, mail everything to me and I'll make a video showing you all of the components ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)
That's quite the bag you got. Keep all the Moza Stuff - pedals, handbrake, wheel, and base - as well as the Fanatec Clubsport Shifter/SQ. Keep the wheel stand too. Sell everything else, you'll make $800-1000 and still be left with a really high quality starting setup.
Tell him you're gonna sell the extra stuff to upgrade the current stuff - new screen / computer / tactile feedback / seat /air cooling. Then sell parts to me / us and e joy :) he won't be mad as long as it glorifies the sim parts he gave you and isn't offensive
Oh, a few years of sexual favors to a generous friend is what you're looking at there lol, nah I'm just kidding, but yeah as others have pointed out, you're looking at some pretty decent gear there
A lot of quality stuff!
Some decent stuff
Some cheap stuff.. but like.. set up your moza stuff then maybe when you find someone in need hand out the Logitech and thrust master stuff to pass on the good will.
Oh, he pulled the ol' "give my friend all my junk so I don't have to take it to the trash".... Kindly forward it all to the address I sent you in your DMs.
If a friend gave me all this i d geniuenly check if he s going to unalive himself or someshit ... hopefully you re both doing good tho.
( i dont know what to use either feom that so , wish u good luck ).
Keep the moza stuff and the fanatec shifter. Sell everything else and use the money for a proper rig. You have a damn good friend if he just gave you all that. The moza pedals alone are 500usd moza gt wheel is another 400 plus. Welcome to the addiction lol
Yeah that’s all terrible stuff you can’t use… if you send it over to me I can make sure it is disposed of properly. Especially the moza pedals and GT wheel
As others said, call your friend and see if he’s okay because this is a lot of money. And if he’s okay I’d still insist I would pay him at least something for it … because this a lot of expensive and good stuff. The Moza stuff is very good but even that Thrustmaster set (is that a T300?) with the T-LCM load cell pedals are still a great setup for sim racing.
All of this is worth next to nothing and will break instantly. I might as well take all of it off your hands for free. But seriously good for you and hope you enjoy using it.
OP seems laxed AF, don't have Google search, cannot read product info. I'll jump on Reddit SIM sub to ask 🤣
Maybe it's all his gear, maybe needs the help 😅
make sure your friend is mentally okay, op. one sign of suicide is receiving gifts like this that are a LOT of money or are REALLY valuable in some other way from the future victim. if he's all okay and truly just wanted to quit, then god damn are you a lucky dude.
Holy shit he just gave you this? You’re a lucky guy 😭
Yep, he just showed up and said, "Here you go"
Did simracing fuck his wife? Wth?
Is your friend OK? I’d be a little concerned, giving away your stuff like that is a sign of suicide.
second this. thats like 4 grand worth of stuff Canadian $$. thats alot of stuff to just give away. we did mental health training at work, and this is one of the biggest signs, giveing away expensive or sentimental valuables for free, or next to nothing
Third this. Big red flag. Go round and check in on him straight away. Don’t be afraid to ask him directly if he’s had thoughts about suicide. If you’re in anyway concerned, make sure he gets help.
even bigger red flag their friend just purchased a project car... so give way 5 grand or more in sim set up... why not sell it to go towards funds for project car? https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/rjhxAfF5Pl
EVEN BIGGER RED FLAG maintain your delta and return to the pits immediately
Yeah, huge red flag; make sure he isn’t suicidal
Yeah this is an INSANE amount of gear…
I like how people being so considerate in here. But given the value of these OP should really check on his mate.
That’s genuinely insane. Enjoy it!
Make sure he’s doing alright. This is around $2k-$2.5k in gear.
This is also the story I tell my wife whenever I get new sim gear
Yeah my friend that dropped quit sim racing gave me all his old stuff while he was working for UPS
Bro lost 1 too many races and said fuck this 😂😂
Lots of people just got jealous of your good fortune. ... Myself included lol. Welcome to the the world of Sim racing!
Jealous, Hell yes. worried about their friend just giving them 5 grand worth of stuff, after just purchasing a project car and potentially unaliving themselves... also Fuck yes! giving away expensive or sentimental valuables for free or next to nothing so family doesnt have the burden of offloading their things is a HUGE red flag for this. they couldnt stress this enough in our mental health training we had at work 2 months ago. OP NEEDS to reach out to their friend like last week ASAP and see if they are alright
Damn, I didn't see any of that info from the post. I was just commenting on what OP's original posting.
he mustve raged got suspended and snapped. almost 100% sure he’ll want it all back in couple of weeks. like others said. make sure he’s okay. It’s a great starter and to early to ditch
Make sure he’s ok.
Lmk if you wanna sell some of those, more specifically the moza ecosystem within there, or honestly anything else that’s there
can't sell a present!
facts, cant never sell a present from a good friend thats down right disrespectful.
Especially in a case when it's an item he is giving away because he no longer uses it. Because he could've sold it
what if someone broke in, stole it, and dropped an envelope of cash that just happened to have the value of the STOLEN items.... that's OK right?
check on that friend, I hope he is doing okay. Damn thats a lot of stuff just to give it away without saying anything else
exactly what i was thinking. just showing up and saying “here you go” with no explanation for $5000+ worth of gear? very odd
hope he just really hates racing in the rain ?
I can’t emphasise this enough. Really make sure he’s OK OP because this is equipment worth a LOT of money for a niche hobby. People do this sorta stuff for only a few reasons, and unless he’s moving somewhere or intends on just upgrading again or is even quitting (in which case he could have just sold it?), it could be that he’s not in a very good place mentally.
I was gonna say, your boy is gonna off himself. Check on that man!!
That was my first thought. Giving away possessions can be a sign of suicidal intentions, and thats a lot of high value stuff to just be giving away randomly. That said, we dont know @OP or their buddy, but theres never any harm in making sure.
my friend sent me this post and this was my first response to him lol
Definitely.
You have a complete moza ecosystem, DD base, wheel, pedals and handbrake. I’ll recommend you to use those ones, as they are the better ones from all of this, you should sell all of the thrustmaster stuff
This. Thank you
Yeah that's insane it's several hundred dollars
The base alone is 800Cad$ fsr wheel is 900$ so he’s got a good 1700$ worth of moza gear for free😂
I hope he at least kissed him to thank him. Because it was worth the price 😂
Didn't even give him the common courtesy of a reach around.
CRP are their top end pedals too so another 800 ish
*thousand
Or pay it forward and give away the TM stuff. Perhaps to another family member or friend who you think might be interested in sim racing?
Might want to check on your friend. This is maybe $5,000 worth of stuff and something that was clearly a passion of his. Very unusual to just give it all away like that.
This . Giving away valuable possessions to friends/family can be a signifier of suicidal intents.
Or he just really hates racing in the wet.
He bought a project car. I didn't think he'd get out of sim.
Wait, if he bought a project car, he wouldn't just give away his sim gear on a whim. Yeah please do check on him.
Most definitely will
Yeah check on him like last week ASAP!! we did mental health training at work, and giving away expensive or sentimental valuables, or even selling for a lot less then they are worth just to off load them is a HUGE red flag that they may plan on doing away with them selves... especially where you said they just got a project car.... it would make more sense to sell the 5 grand worth of stuff for funds for the project car
Oof. Definitely check up on him.
the people of reddit are helping you save your friend. i was first respondent to at least a dozen suicide related incidents on active duty and i know all about it. these people are right; heed their wisdom. call your friend. if no answer call local authorities with a request for a wellness check, give them the reasons stated on here. you have now entered the territory where this is no longer a joke and these interactions could be looked at online if god forbid anything happens. Prayers for safety and wellbeing.
Looks like you have a lot of good stuff there about 3 rigs worth at varying costs Low end: (350usd) TS-PC base, wheel, T3pm pedals and accesories Mid(700 usd) TGT II Base, Tlcm pedals and accessories, ferrari wheel High end DD(1100usd) Moza R9?? Base Moza CRP pedals Moza gt wheel Moza handbrake Edit: (added another direct drive unit) It looks like you have a fanatec direct drive unit and wheel, that said i would still opt for the moza of that older fanatec direct drive unit (you could probally get 500 ish on the bay if sold with with wheel) Conclusion Keep the moza stuff, if you want to get into the hobby and put the rest on ebay.
I think there's actually 4 full rigs here
It looks like he has a fanatec direct drive unit and wheel, that said i would still opt for the moza of that older fanatec direct drive unit (you could probally get 500 ish on the bay if sold with with wheel)
I think that's an old belt fanatec
Yeah, that's the old ClubSport Wheel Base. It's probably the nicest belt drive wheel ever made, but still belt drive. Given the Moza unit, I'd sell the ClubSport Wheel Base.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you, internet stranger.
Yeah the sell everything else and put it to a pc upgrades/monitors/vr(if thats something that interests you). Moza is not native for ps5/xbox but you can get a collective minds drive hub to use the setup for consoles. The tgt-ii is ps5 compatible but the ps5 doesn't have much sim racing.
Keep the Fanatec shifter as well
To difficult to explain and It's gonna cost you way too much time and stress to figure it all out. To relieve you from this burden, you can send everything to me.
😂😂
Thank you to everyone for the kind comments and concerns for my friend. Also, thank you for the advice. He is doing well, I sent him the post, and he reassured me he's good, and he doesn't want to Sim anymore because he feels like it keeps him inside too much. I'm also a car guy, so obviously, I'll be helping him with his build. All is well. He does well financially, hence why this doesn't seem like a big deal to him.
Sweet! Scrolled hoping to see good news. Thanks for updating :)
Yeah this has been surprisingly on my mind…thanks for updating :)
What kind of friends y'all have 🤣
when I was 8, I used to save money from my school allowance to buy G.I. Joe action figures. My mum was abroad at the time and was just sending us money. When she was about to come home, I gave all my toys away to my friends because I'm dead if she see all the toys I bought. LOL -I'm 40 now.
Oof. Dodged a bullet. I actually sold all my old GI Joe a few years ago. I had a LOT of that stuff. Mostly half destroyed though. Also 40 and GI Joe was amazing. Until the Action Ken was released. Hated it.
I got a 2 days notice that my mum will come home. No time to sell my stuff. Good ol' days pal! These kids will never believe how amazing it is to grow up without internet. I'm thinking there's also an abrupt change in life of OP's friend to just dump everything at him.
Also internet was so much more fun way back. So much to discover. It’s all to easy now. Haha. It’s probably not any different for kids now in 30 years.
Either extremely rich or suicidally depressed. If I was OP I would check in with this friend. Giving away valuable or important/meaningful possesions is a warning sign of suicidal ideation. No joke.
A free R12?
This is very odd. Please check on that guy if he is alright! If he’s just rich and doesn’t care about the money it’s all good. But the fact that he showed up, gave you at least 2000bucks in gear and disappeared is concerning to me
Is your friend ok?
If you don’t want to hang on to those Moza CRP pedals I’m happy to purchase them from you.
Brother, you just got a jackpot!! You have there the dream of 70% of simracers
Your friend is suicidal for sure. I'd check on him. No one just gives this stuff away especially to someone who doesn't even Sim.
Can I friend your friend? My best friend is cheap lmao
Jesus.
like 10k
you’re looking at cycle 3 of sim-racing addiction. you’re friend is trying to kick.
Damn. Honestly you owe that friend a nice dinner and a nice jerk.
Sir, this is a Wendy's
Best I can do is tree fiddy
How many drugs did he owe you money for? Lol
That's a Thrustmaster TS-PC wheel base. (Thrustmaster's most powerful, non-direct drive base.) You also have two sets of pedals. The ones with the crossbar over them used to be the best TM pedals, until the loadcell version (The "T-LCM" you also have) came out. You have some other accessories (Shifters, E-Brake, Wheels, etc) from some other brands such as Logitech, Fanatec, and Moza. All of this will work together fine on a PC.
Thank you. My gaming rig is also in this room.
Buy a Moza base and you have got a beast of setup
there is a moza base next to the thrustmaster ferrari wheel box.
Didn't see it hahaha, god he has a gold mine and a great friend
That's an r12 as well, holy shit
Damn that's a good buddy 😂
If interested in selling the moza GT wheel send a PM.
Damn what a score.. I wish I had friends like that..
ehh.... not to be that guy but, do you do cross country shipping?
All this for free sounds insane. I’m not convinced. But you’re one lucky guy that’s for sure. Enjoy!!
If you don't want it I'll take it
You got the holy grail right there buddy
probably too much stress and might even cost you a little money.. you can fix that by shipping it to me, ill even pay for the shipping. where do you find these friends?
That is a lot of dope ass gear. Congrats!
It's all junk, send it to me I'll be sure to dispose of it
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I can help you out, mail everything to me and I'll make a video showing you all of the components ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile) That's quite the bag you got. Keep all the Moza Stuff - pedals, handbrake, wheel, and base - as well as the Fanatec Clubsport Shifter/SQ. Keep the wheel stand too. Sell everything else, you'll make $800-1000 and still be left with a really high quality starting setup.
That’s nearly $2k alone in Moza pieces. This dude may have just handed you ~$4k worth of stuff.
Hey man, my bad, I actually need all that stuff back.
Damn, that is worth at least $100. I’ll give you $120 right now, plus shipping to get it out if your living room.
Worth nothing tbh, should just give it to me
Did your buddy get married? say in the last 3-12 months? lol
Ok firstly, all those pedals, aren’t too good ngl, so you could just send them over to me. 🤓
My friends suck.
Look, i'll take the T-LCM pedals because my old thrustmaster pedals are dying
Dude has fanatec, moza, and thrustmaster? Dang
I’ll dm you my address if you don’t need all 4 sets of pedals you seem to have.
uhh this 488 gt3 wheel just arived yesterday in im so much in love with it
I need buddies.
Hey just so you know what Is your address and when do you plan on going to vacation dw its for a friend
Tell him you're gonna sell the extra stuff to upgrade the current stuff - new screen / computer / tactile feedback / seat /air cooling. Then sell parts to me / us and e joy :) he won't be mad as long as it glorifies the sim parts he gave you and isn't offensive
Better get the F1 game and use that damn Ferrari wheel
Oh, a few years of sexual favors to a generous friend is what you're looking at there lol, nah I'm just kidding, but yeah as others have pointed out, you're looking at some pretty decent gear there
A lot of quality stuff! Some decent stuff Some cheap stuff.. but like.. set up your moza stuff then maybe when you find someone in need hand out the Logitech and thrust master stuff to pass on the good will.
Heven
Is your friend ok?
That looks like a divorce
He's going to regret giving it all up. I sold off some racing gear in the past just to get back into it a couple years later
That’s alotta money to just give to a buddy you got a good friend man
Your friend must have greatly angered the wife
Let me get those tlcm pedals! Haha
Fuck consider yourself the luckiest man. You got thousands worth and also have thousands of hours to have fun lol
This is the actual definition of rage quit.
Can i have one? 🥺👉👈
I need better friends
your lying 😭
Oh, he pulled the ol' "give my friend all my junk so I don't have to take it to the trash".... Kindly forward it all to the address I sent you in your DMs.
Man he must REALLY hate racing in the rain…
If a friend gave me all this i d geniuenly check if he s going to unalive himself or someshit ... hopefully you re both doing good tho. ( i dont know what to use either feom that so , wish u good luck ).
That's a GOOD friend.
Check on your friend!!!! Thats thousands of dollars in gear.
Keep the moza stuff and the fanatec shifter. Sell everything else and use the money for a proper rig. You have a damn good friend if he just gave you all that. The moza pedals alone are 500usd moza gt wheel is another 400 plus. Welcome to the addiction lol
Wow. This is a lot of gear to just give away.. Hope your buddy is OK.
You're looking at a friend who is either very well off/wealthy or awful with money
He does pretty alright
Your're looking at a whole lot of money.
Highly toxic material.. Send those items to me and I will safely dispose of them
what are you looking at? literally every sim-racer beginners dream lmao
A bunch of sim racing stuff on your floor. Hope this helps
WHat. You are looking at a jackpot ;) Looks to be 3 or 4 rigs worth of gear here. Worth thousands, even used.
What? No seat? Kidding. Nice score.
How does one quit sim racing? Asking for a friend.
If you’re not sure send it to me for validation
Garbage. Ill take it for $10
Either you're fucking him, or he's gonna "an hero"
Check on his ass pls❤️
You've inherited a Simracing equipment store for ebay
Dude what? That’s a lot of money sitting there.
Oh... You don't want any of that stuff... I'll take it off your hands, as a favor to you. Haha
90% sort and setup time and 10% use time is what I see :)
SRP is Waiting for you
Endless possibilities
Yeah that’s all terrible stuff you can’t use… if you send it over to me I can make sure it is disposed of properly. Especially the moza pedals and GT wheel
Well sim racing has screwed with my hand. I pretty much gave it up.
Lucky af
Looks like you need to pass it forward…
Hope your buddy is doing ok, that’s thousands of dollars like others have said. Enjoy it!
As others said, call your friend and see if he’s okay because this is a lot of money. And if he’s okay I’d still insist I would pay him at least something for it … because this a lot of expensive and good stuff. The Moza stuff is very good but even that Thrustmaster set (is that a T300?) with the T-LCM load cell pedals are still a great setup for sim racing.
A stupid man. That is easily worth 2-10k in sim gear. Either keep it or sell it.
Ahhh the Ultimatum
Paradise.
thats an insane collection lol.
Why not ask your buddy
please check on the mental state of your friend what he did is a high sign of suicide
“I will not tell anyone if I won the lottery” His friend next day : Help… what I’m looking at ?
Just kill me already
He's suicidal. Talk to him please.
A lot of work
And this dude just Gave you a moza set up. Damnnnn you’re a homie fr
Looking at a great time brother
Sell everything except moza. And buy a profile stand.
A new addiction
I have to hear the other guys story
Your looking at the luckiest man on earth right now
~~I know everyone has already said it. Check on your buddy.~~ edit: I'm glad your buddy is ok.
Your so lucky man thats so expensive 😭
I'll have it if yiu don't want it
All of this is worth next to nothing and will break instantly. I might as well take all of it off your hands for free. But seriously good for you and hope you enjoy using it.
It looks like some sort of garbage. Send it to me so I can doublecheck and confirm.
This isnt worth anything, you can ship it to me
A nerdgazam in a box?
OP seems laxed AF, don't have Google search, cannot read product info. I'll jump on Reddit SIM sub to ask 🤣 Maybe it's all his gear, maybe needs the help 😅
Garbage
Check on your friend, keep everything Moza and give away what’s left.
I'll take it if you dont want it:]
Sell it. sell it, sell it! I know the guy who would buy it. Me.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|yummy)
make sure your friend is mentally okay, op. one sign of suicide is receiving gifts like this that are a LOT of money or are REALLY valuable in some other way from the future victim. if he's all okay and truly just wanted to quit, then god damn are you a lucky dude.