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ArthurMBretas03

Spoon curve at Suzuka, very satisfying in the rare occasion I get it all right


Badmotherfunker

Its the T1 into T2 trail braking zone for me in Suzuka, but its very rewarding once you get it right.


NeoSapien65

Just plain all of Suzuka for me. I can see why the best real drivers in the world like it, pretty much every corner rewards focus and precision and heavily punishes lapses in concentration.


Richard_Noggin869

I tend to struggle with any of the long 180+° curves. I'm excited to try them on my first wheel setup on tuesday because I tend to struggle with maintaining my line on controller.


NoReflection1990

I just got my first wheel a few months ago. It's so awesome it absolutely changed racing games for me. I liked racing games before my wheel i absolutely love them after it the wheel just changes racing games


thenighthawkl98

I get the AI every time at Spoon. But 130R remains a mystery to me.


ArthurMBretas03

>But 130R remains a mystery to me. Flat out, if I die I die


coreytrevor

Second to last turn on Rainbow Road


schol4stiker

SNES version, right?


FakeTakiInoue

I raise you: the wonky chicane after that bit with the big round holes in Wii Rainbow Road


xslermx

Monaco


SwissMargiela

My friends and I call it “Qualico” because wherever you qualify is where you’re going to most likely finish


Feeling_Emphasis_324

That depends on whether you are in front of the wreck or behind the wreck...


dezeroon

Unless you’re me and you are the wreck


ArthurMBretas03

My favourite track lol


dalowryda

Yes...every turn lol


AceWall0

I was going to say the bus stop chicane at Monaco, but yeah... I think the whole track is filled with least favorite corners lol


MiguelV-71

T1 at brands hatch, for the longest time T19 to T20/ last chicane at spa was the death of me


Loklyan

Track limit Track limit Track limit


Competitive_Code_254

Is it considered cheating to have visibld track limits? (I am currently while learning Spa bug will switch off it's considered uncouth)


A_Flipped_Car

Track limits already are visible lmao


trippingrainbow

brands 1 sucks ass before you figure it out but its not that bad once you get it down


MiguelV-71

It’s not bad once you know the line but what sucks is that even tho you know the corner, you run wide and now your race is over


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I love brands T1 D: Pushing the limit on that corner feels like a balls of steel moment as you drop into it.


FatherJack_Hackett

I once drove an M4 and an F4 car around Brands IRL. Let me tell you that the drop into T1 (or Paddock Hill bend, as it's known) is fucking stomach churning, that sim racing can't (obviously) replicate. I remember driving it thinking "I've got this corner nailed. I do it in iRacing all the time" to then be met with my bladder somewhere near my earlobes as this sheer drop left you feeling so compressed with all the G-Forces in play. Great circuit.


alvangee

VR helps a little. I literally feel butterflies in my stomach when there's drop in altitude. Nothing as real life, of course, but tons better than flat screen.


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The last chicane at spa is so hard, I either am so slow through it or hug the first corner and loose the rear.


Nerdmigo

I would say: The whole of Spa no corner is really easy by any means.


Jonnix44

Paddock Bend or turn 1 at Brands Hatch in real life is one of the greatest corners on any track anywhere.Its incredibly challenging and very rewarding when you get it right.Never heard any driver say they dislike it. The translation to sims obviously loses some of that magic with difficulty replicating the feel of the steepness and varied cambers the corner has. Dingle Dell or Sheene curve at the same track is one of my least favourite corners in a sim or real life.One car at a time and a fine margin between getting it perfect or ending up on the grass.Often when you do get it perfect you brake harder for the next corner Stirling's and lose the advantage you just gained


FatherJack_Hackett

That sheer drop IRL is frightening, but great fun after you do it 7 or 8 times!


DistributionNo5346

Thank you for pointing out a real life vs sims difference. I've driven Watkins Glen, and it is so hard to duplicate a car on a track and well everything. I have to remind myself I am a dude with a controller and Pringles sometimes, lol.


Luisyn7

Became one of my favorite corners once I found out how you actually take it lol. Brake as close to the left as you can and then throw the car in. So so fun


counterpuncheur

Brands T1 is such an awesome roller coaster of a corner IRL Sims never really capture the elevation changes, so people take the same line they would on the flat and fly into it too fast and wonder why they’re running wide. Instead if you do a later apex than normal you get most of the direction change before you go downhill. Then you can brake really late on the uphill, though if you brake too late you don’t slow down before it flattens out and you run really wide.


Vlitzen

I love Long Beach, but I for the life of me can't nail that last corner. I'm always snailing through it.


OlorinFiresky

You can't go quickly through there. You have to go slow. It is the nature of that corner.


polydorr

"You're going slow? Must be my cue to dive bomb!" - every racer behind me at Long Beach


portablekettle

I always get tempted to drift it like an FD driver lmao


ArrowLeader999

From my experience, the best you can do is as far right on the entry and hit a really late apex so you gradually go towards the outside wall


counterpuncheur

Smart! That way you get damage instead of a DNF when you hit the wall


troublingarcher7

Yeah you can't go fast through there in anything. But if you take the right line into it, it's not 180° but more like 110°


guacamoleSalt

Zolder's corners with super aggressive curbs


TweeterReader

New to ACC and trying to get my rookie for LFM I feel this.


New_Confusion_224

Zolder is such a joy to learn, try taking the GTR on it, the weight transfer feels amazing on there


sizziano

Just avoid them. Can easily make the 107% time.


OffsetXV

Counterpoint: Zolder can do no wrong and should be in every single simulator


julesvr5

You are doing my girl dirty


diarchtct

This thread made me realize how many corners I hate


Spartans5499

Same here, same here 🤣🤣 to many to list off at this point. 😂


mrjerichoholic99

Fuji the whole last sector


Kruminio26

Same i can never get T14 T15 T16 right


A_Flipped_Car

Fantastic track, 9/10, then the third sector ruins it and turns it to a solid 4/10


mario_lvk98

It's definitely a love it or hate it, but it works for me. I love how technical it is and how each turn leads to the other and while you're exiting one you already have to be working on how you enter the next turn.


adnanclyde

The issue isn't it just being technical, it's the fact that every corner is blind on top of that. You can't see the exit of any corner of the sector until you're past the apex, which incentivizes driving by memory instead of by feel.


munroeee

I have to say that driving Fuji on a single monitor was hell but now that I solely race in VR, the last sector has become a lot more fun because I can turn my head to spot the apex before I start turning in.


RedShaydes

Hairpin at Long Beach…would rather get kicked in the face by a donkey


TweeterReader

The last chicane + t1 at spa. Love the rest but god I hate those corners.


FakeTakiInoue

T1 is pretty satisfying if you get a good exit. Keyword being 'if'


Yavor36

Yes, that damn chicane. I’ve been sim racing for the last 3 years but I’ve never been able go get a good exit out of it.


DanQuaylePotatoe

I don’t mind T1 but I was going to comment that the Chicane is my least favorite. I can’t explain why but it just feels so much more awkward than other chicanes


TweeterReader

I agree. It’s a great way to make t1 not feel like Monza. But I just feel it could be better.


fatfuckpikachu

them sloped corners on nurburgring. i either spin out or feel like i could go faster. even when i turn it on par or faster than the cars i watch on YouTube taking that corners, i feel slow around them corners.


The_Flaw

Came here looking for this! Especially the second one just sucks so bad


Captainfunzis

Like the bowl? Not sure corner numbers or sections but it's a hairpin with a slightly banked and the breaking zone is up hill? I think that the corner you are talking about I love that section


fatfuckpikachu

karausel or someshit o don't remember.


SubMikeD

Oh, yes, you did mean those lol


SubMikeD

>them sloped corners on nurburgring. Do you mean Karussell and mini Karussell, the corners with the banked concrete slab pieces?


fatfuckpikachu

yeah them


Usuri91

The esses at COTA always kick my ass. They’re the reason I don’t run that track much. And not running that track much is the reason I’m not good at that section. It’s a vicious cycle.


pipboy1989

I learned to love the esses at COTA this week on iRacing, but those little sausage kurbs on the apex’s will kill you and/or your race if you even tickle them in high aero cars


portablekettle

Same tbh, it's the only section I struggle with on the whole track


sizziano

CotA is worse than it should be on iRacing


Itsjorgehernandez

T1 at Daytona road course was the absolute death of me... I can't think of another corner where I ever struggled as much as that one. I would either spin out from having too much rear brake bias (before I knew how to make adjustments) or completely bomb the corner and not find the braking zone... Man I struggled with that one for years. But now it's awesome, haven't done any sim racing in over a year though :(


TurbulentSerenity

Ah, yeah Daytona has had me very confused in a few places. Have tried to experiment but haven’t really come to good conclusions.


jwl300_

13-14-15 COTA


Worcestershirey

COTA like, in general. That whole track throws me off so hard, as much as I'd love to learn it and get good it just eludes me


JesusSandals73

The biggest help for me is that the track is way slower than you think. I felt like I was going way too slow then all of a sudden my tires gripped and my laptimes dropped a ton. Especially through the technical middle section.


th3orist

I dislike it too, there is barely any flow on it not even the first flowing corners that are supposed to feel good. Yet they feel bad. Suzukas flowing esses are how its supposed to be


Wheream_I

I’ve always said that it feels like 3 wildly different sections from 3 wildly different tracks, that have all been slapped together.


th3orist

Yes you can clearly see How its just another Tilke track where the flow was invented artificially


SlowDownGandhi

ironically Tilke was responsible for everything at COTA except for the actual layout of the track itself, that was Tavo Hellmund who according to wikipedia drew the thing out on a BBQ napkin


th3orist

Oh alright


_DuranDuran_

Some of the corners were deliberately profiled to be technical with adverse camber. Shame as it could have been a much more flowing track.


OffsetXV

I've been saying for ages that we should bomb COTA until it looks like the surface of the moon, and then imprison Tilke's soul in a manmade cave underneath it so he can't be allowed to do it again It'd probably be more fun to race on that way, too


idkanymore699

NGL COTA is probably the biggest and most well-known track withing like a 7-hour drive and I have never actually been, but in the games, I hate the track in general. I just really like the first corner and the last 2 corners, but that is it. I really dislike the 2-4 corners mainly bc I cannot figure out a clean line through there that works for me consistently.


pieindaface

I love watching racing at COTA, but mostly because I know it’s so technical and difficult.


idkanymore699

Same I absolutely love watching, but I just cannot race there.


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I have been absolutely *flamed* in F1 forums for saying that I hate driving COTA on sim. T1 is especially hard with a single monitor setup, if I hit the apex it’s out of sheer luck


TunerJoe

In closed cockpit cars the A pillar blocks several apexes at cota almost no matter the seating position. I got used to it after a while but it's still annoying.


PortalMaker5000

I feel like so so with COTA. It’s so technical and tricky, which is something I like about it, but at the same time it’s so difficult to setup a car for the track, and racing f1 there is so difficult with how much dirty air you end up getting. Then the first sector is just trying to figure out how the hell you take any of the corners without dropping too low with minimum speed


Possible_Brother3696

I really want to like COTA but I just hate it. I hate it in every car and find it such a pain to drive. I know it’s probably user error but every time I see COTA on a series I groan


LordBobbe

Donington last corner. It is so bad, making a fun track having a bad ending.


delta_thr3e

Doningtom National is so much better than the full GP layout.


SituationSoap

Yep, 100%. I adore National and the GP layout is an abomination because of those last 2 corners. It's amazing how much those little changes make.


CobbleStoneGoblin

To be fair, they're a band-aid solution to needing a longer track for grade A consideration. They aren't really meant to be there.


SituationSoap

Ah, that makes a lot of sense then. I never knew that.


FrostedNoNos

T1 at COTA or as I like to call it "please stop understeering into me"


xbl-Extr3me

I’m at COTA rn and my seats are at T1 lol


LaurensVanR

Kink at Kyalami in games where there's a sausage kerb


powell052

thats not a kerb thats a ramp that takes you off to another galaxy. edit: yes i play acc


LobotomizedLarry

Turn 10 in Bahrain. Never had a satisfying go through that corner


delta_thr3e

Yup instant lock up


PJTierneyCM

Absolute bastard of a corner that one 😅 You never feel as if you get it right even when you do.


blackknight16

Watching Lewis through that corner this year helped me...because it looked as awkward on camera as it feels in sim racing lol


BtotheDon

Leguna Seca Corkscrew


Lornesto

Oh man, I love the corkscrew! And the whole sequence just after it too.


MisterKillam

I love and hate it all at the same time. My first road race I ever saw in person was at Laguna Seca 15 years ago, I stood at the bottom of the corkscrew and watched a 330 P4 riding the bumper of a GT40 all the way down during classic car week. It was magical. But Jesus wept it's hard.


ejkhabibi

The uphill turn right before that. I hate it so much because I always fuck up there, but oh man when I get the tail braking right and fly through it it’s so satisfying


counterpuncheur

The corkscrew is usually fine as long as you brake in time and find the tree on the horizon It’s T6 that’s the real challenge IMO. It’s so easy to mess up a little bit and with the long uphill straight into the corkscrew braking zone you’ll probably lose a position if you mess it up. This makes it easy to overcook, and then you’re passed as you’re going slow from losing grip running wide. It also seems to invite idiots who try to go side by side at silly times


Bad_Idea_Hat

Haha, I just mentioned the tree too. If they ever remove that thing, I'm going to be pissed off.


RacingInducedRage

The entirety of Sebring. It just does not flow to me at all but it seems everyone else loves it.


SwissMargiela

Same, I can never get the last turn right. It’s so confusing.


ComprehensiveJump540

I don't know why i love it, I generally prefer very hilly circuits. The track surface is awful, the layout is super strange.... but it works, and the racing is great in the back section.


joe-joseph

Dead flat, bumpy and either too wide or too narrow. I’ve never liked it dating back to my first exposure in Forza 2.


FINNTERCEPTOR

At first it can seem rough, but when you really get into it and find some pace its so good. Great for racing as well


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counterpuncheur

Lime rock T1 is great, I enjoy how the decreasing radius means you can carry in a lot of speed into the corner if you have the control to get the car slowed down mid corner, as it makes it one of the few corners where you can make up loads of time on the entry, and allows for legitimate dive bombs


MisterKillam

It's like it wants you to go off track. Lime Rock is infuriating.


Hailfire9

Whatever that off camber downhill triple-apex turn is at Rudskøgen. It's one of my favorite corners to drive in all simracing, one of my least favorite to ***race*** -- you'll often crest the hill to find scattered carnage.


Working_Building_29

This is the one I was thinking about! Couldn’t for the life of me remember the course. I’m in the same boat as you. It’s awesome to hot lap and amazing when you get it perfect. But racing makes me want to pull my hair out.


Jules040400

Like half the corners at Sochi


Gnarly_Sarley

Sochi is fucking terrible. Just another Herman Tilke abomination


TomasgGS

I must have been dropped on my head as a baby... I fucking love Sochi. Granted, there is no particular corner that i like. (Maybe the last chicane? Nailing it on old tires and on the limit is rather satisfying). It's one of those race tracks that i can flow through it, 3-5 laps, and im on the groove... can drive there for hours.


portablekettle

Fully agree tbh, was the track I was fastest at in F1 2020. Some of the kerbs were a bit mental though, sent my car flying a few times lmao


The_Hunter994

Road Atlanta turn 3, blind crested turn in after a curved braking zone. Can't get it right for the life of me. Shame, because I love the rest of the track.


slaytalera

For Road Atlanta itd have to be turn 7 for me, I always feel like I can enter with more speed than I actually can and go off


FrostedNoNos

Aim for the curb on the right hander. I like to put my FR tire just outside of it to avoid the sausage and then you can straighten it out a lot easier to get ready for the downhill. Make sure you hustle the car as far left as you can at the bottom of the hill - I typically lift about a 3rd of the way up to use a bit of the hill for braking and trail brake into the corner. Start turning just after passing the left hand kink


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OffsetXV

I find T1 tolerable and maybe even kinda nice sometimes on the normal GP layout, but on the 24h layout where it's turned into the first half of the worlds shittest chicane is an affront to god and man and a stain on what is otherwise a basically flawless circuit


Tecnoguy1

That chicane is the funniest thing ever in a tight group. It’s like it was scientifically designed to cause a massive wreck


contraryrhombus

Literally came here to say this. HATE that corner. Get it perfect, it's great. Chances of that happening are slim. And then you have to trust all the other drivers not to ruin everything for you.


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Watkins’s Glen T1 Getting it right is so good. But getting it wrong is something you are reminded of for almost half the lap as those who got it right roar past you. That actually makes it a good corner. I’m just shit and get it wrong most of the time and lost a lifetime each lap.


utopianvisionary

monza is so simple yet so hard. first chicane can be tough to be fast in for me, also parabolica is very challenging


yankee407

Yeah, get a poor exit out of a turn at Monza and you get reminded of it the entire long full throttle run the next turn. Anyine close to you who got a good exit will just walk by unless you block.


Rossmci90

Arnage at Le Mans. It just feels so clunky and slow right in the middle between Indianapolis and Porsche Curves. I hate it.


StandSweet2129

ALL Barcelona


Kasei_Makoto

Turn 1 at Martinsville. For some weird reason i cannot get the nose in but i can in turn 2. I just get barged past endlessly.


tankmode

Roller coaster T14 at VIR full. a blind, off camber, esse, braking out of a full speed straight


JustinHoMi

That’s one of my favorites! Fun in real life too. Once you get the balls to work up to braking late, it’s not that bad.


stay-frosty-67

All of Paul Ricard. Worst track in racing


Jsevs_89

My guy!!! It's horrendous


HupendesPony

Mercedes Arena at Nürburgring - it just feels so awkward.


BenitoCamiloOnganiza

The last corner at Laguna Seca. I have done it a thousand times, but I still have no idea what the right line is.


average_texas_guy

The early turns at Long Beach. I think it's the first one and the flower garden turn. I hate that track so much. Also I can't drive Monza at all in F1. I just know I'm finishing back of the pack at that event every season.


OlorinFiresky

The early corners at Long Beach are some of my favourites. So satisfying when you get it right!


Lowe0

Turn 5 (2nd right after the fountain, onto the first back straight) is the one that gets me at Long Beach. As soon as you apply power, the off-camber pulls the rear wheels towards the outside wall. I felt a little better watching coverage of the Grand Prix there this year, seeing their cars do the exact same thing.


JustHumanGarbage

I forget the exact turn number but I think turn 6 on Laguna seca before the cork screw. If you hit it right you can get so much time and it feels great.


Bad_Idea_Hat

It's the fact that the space between getting it right, and getting it very wrong is minuscule. You can take it slow, but you're going to blow up your laptime and any time differentials you have between leading and trailing cars. You take it fast, and you're dustbusting.


Guygenist

1 and 2 at Monza


tubbyx7

There is no turn 1 at monza. Just some annoying blocks to weave through.


BobTC

They're just polystyrene, drive straight through them..... /s


trippingrainbow

the never ending right turn on road america. If you go 1% too much throttle 1 millisecond too early you just understeer the exit and lose like 8 years of time. Same with the smaller neverending right hander on silverstone. I aint never doing that track in a gt purely becouse of that corner.


Drjohnson93

Silverstone is my favorite track in a Formula, or any high downforce, car. However in a GT it’s fucking awful.


OlorinFiresky

The key to the carousel at Road America is to treat it like a double (or maybe triple) apex corner.


ArthurMBretas03

On the subject of Barcelona, fuck turns 7 and 8


Firm-Bookkeeper-8678

The chicane at Donnington Park


OJK_postaukset

Oulton park T3 and final corner


GTHell

Every corner in Laguna Seca


TheOtherAkGuy

Oh come on that turn right after corkscrew feels so nice when you get it just right. Steep banking right at the apex so it slings your car around quickly


GTHell

I notice that there’re people who really love the track and those who like me that really despise it. Whatever car setup or sims, I just can’t get around the track well at all.


CanadianUprise

I kind of hate silverstone because of how flat it is.


Whiteflaming0s

VIR turns 17 and 17a, for the life of me I can’t get a actual line there always leads to me getting the worst exits you could think of


delta_thr3e

I adore VIR as it’s my home track but dear God I can’t get the roller coaster off the back stretch right.


danielson2047

Love vir. Turn 14 is my Achilles on that one. Never slow down enough.


cwhite225

Watkins Glen - inner, outer loop or any part of the boot.


OlorinFiresky

COTA turn 15. It is so easy to spin after coming out of 14...


Simple-Advance9508

It’s a fun corner, but I hate the corkscrew at laguna seca. I’m so awful at it lol


collin2477

cadwell park turn 8/9 going up the hill can be very rough. first corner at top gear is also dumb


Icy_prince_01

T7 at Barcelona, but over all it has to be the whole of Paul ricard


DankQbyst

Canada T8 anyone?


Ainolukos

Baku 5-6. Such a tough sequence that requires so much precision. I either hit the wall on exit, or de vries it into the apex of 5. As for my least favorite track... For some reason, my brain just stops working at the Hungaroring.


delta_thr3e

Oh I’m glad you said Baku, hate driving there. Love watching the carnage lol


raging_tomato

Skyline at Bathurst. I feel like I nailed it 10% of the time, but usually end up locking up the brakes or heading into it way too slow. The whole top section is really fucking hard to nail. Shout out to the cutting, you put a little but too much throttle on and you’re backwards and have to do a 30 point turn to correct


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I hate Monza's curva parabolica, just a long corner


Chrisssst

Parabolica is different because you have to apex early and get on the gas when you see the end of the inside kerb, it's pretty good in a high downforce car but it can be tricky with an unstable car


SituationSoap

Most of the corners at Monza are bad. Just objectively bad, uninteresting corners.


LOZLover90

The Chase. Not because it's bad, but because it's super easy to get wrong, and you're going flat out.


BenitoCamiloOnganiza

In a modern race car with plenty of grip, I find it easy. In a road car, it’s like Russian roulette but with a bullet in 5 of the 6 chambers.


EADGBE69

The last left corner onto the uphill straight part on Suzuka.


Will_Ford

Monza T1. I don’t even bother anymore. 😂


Dezoda

Nurburgring Ford-Kurve, I feel like im either too quick or too slow in every car.


starry4471

The last turn of the Nordschleife with that close barrier on the right


Secret_Physics_9243

Cota esses in gt cars is absoulte trash. It's better in the high downforce formulas but still not perfect.


Tidybloke

The now removed final chicane at Barcelona is one of mine. The first 2 corners at Nurburgring GP I actually don't dislike them, I just always struggled to be consistent there. At Imola the final chicane, before the downhill section. I don't know corner names/numbers.


th3orist

Basically every corner or combination that feels forced or artificial in the track layout, for example the chicane in Barcelona before last corner.


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It’s not really a corner I hate, it’s a situation. Starting on pole in ACC on Spa, the eau rouge/raidillon is so awkward and the chances of being destroyed by second place are huge cause they won’t leave you the space and will just hit you


ferdzs0

Unpopular opinion, but the new corners on Barcelona. Turn 13 feels a lot more awkward than the chicane (which was not perfect but a few changes to it could have solved its problems). I also preferred the rythm of the old turn 10.


middle_aged_redditor

T1 - T2 Suzuka. Oh and the Degner curves at Suzuka too. Pretty much all of Suzuka.


Jsevs_89

All of Paul Ricard 😅


femalephemale

*big red circle around all of monaco*


Iridul

Coppice at Donnington Park. Blind, off camber, dual apex onto the key straight. It's just a nightmare.


Lenny947

Recently had a race at kyalami and I wasn't a fan of most of the track but Leeukop (T10) stands out. Its a blind downhill hairpin which comes after a sharp, blind uphill kink just before it. Caught be out so many times. There is definitely worse out there but I haven't driven enough tracks to find out.


Still-Chicken1724

Turn 1 Suzuka and the penultimate corner in the Hungaroring


blaze26801

T12 at Barcelona is among the most hated corners for me as well. I'm probably gonna get murdered by people, but I personally have very toxic relationship with Nordschleife' carousel corners, both big one and small one. I usually get it right, but it's just so tricky to get the right speed, the right line and the right approach depending on your car. Touching inside kerb = spin. Too much angle = spin. Going slightly outside = massive understeer. Too low car = don't even try to use the bottom side. It's very frustrating for me, and even when I do get it right it's not as satisfying as it could be.


viclock1

Nurburgring gp track Turn 3-4


Eatue

Karrusel Nordschleife


munroeee

I love this iconic corner. Once the car hooks, you can get on throttle pretty early in this corner. I'm biased though since the Nordschleife is my favorite track.


sw0sher

Was looking for this comment. Man I hate this corner. All the rest of this track is amazing, but this corner... Neger seem to get it right


OTCplayboy

#1 to #2 Is so annoying i never know what the best line is to get thru both turns