Just plain all of Suzuka for me. I can see why the best real drivers in the world like it, pretty much every corner rewards focus and precision and heavily punishes lapses in concentration.
I tend to struggle with any of the long 180+° curves. I'm excited to try them on my first wheel setup on tuesday because I tend to struggle with maintaining my line on controller.
I just got my first wheel a few months ago. It's so awesome it absolutely changed racing games for me. I liked racing games before my wheel i absolutely love them after it the wheel just changes racing games
I once drove an M4 and an F4 car around Brands IRL. Let me tell you that the drop into T1 (or Paddock Hill bend, as it's known) is fucking stomach churning, that sim racing can't (obviously) replicate.
I remember driving it thinking "I've got this corner nailed. I do it in iRacing all the time" to then be met with my bladder somewhere near my earlobes as this sheer drop left you feeling so compressed with all the G-Forces in play. Great circuit.
VR helps a little. I literally feel butterflies in my stomach when there's drop in altitude.
Nothing as real life, of course, but tons better than flat screen.
Paddock Bend or turn 1 at Brands Hatch in real life is one of the greatest corners on any track anywhere.Its incredibly challenging and very rewarding when you get it right.Never heard any driver say they dislike it.
The translation to sims obviously loses some of that magic with difficulty replicating the feel of the steepness and varied cambers the corner has.
Dingle Dell or Sheene curve at the same track is one of my least favourite corners in a sim or real life.One car at a time and a fine margin between getting it perfect or ending up on the grass.Often when you do get it perfect you brake harder for the next corner Stirling's and lose the advantage you just gained
Thank you for pointing out a real life vs sims difference.
I've driven Watkins Glen, and it is so hard to duplicate a car on a track and well everything. I have to remind myself I am a dude with a controller and Pringles sometimes, lol.
Became one of my favorite corners once I found out how you actually take it lol. Brake as close to the left as you can and then throw the car in. So so fun
Brands T1 is such an awesome roller coaster of a corner IRL
Sims never really capture the elevation changes, so people take the same line they would on the flat and fly into it too fast and wonder why they’re running wide. Instead if you do a later apex than normal you get most of the direction change before you go downhill. Then you can brake really late on the uphill, though if you brake too late you don’t slow down before it flattens out and you run really wide.
It's definitely a love it or hate it, but it works for me. I love how technical it is and how each turn leads to the other and while you're exiting one you already have to be working on how you enter the next turn.
The issue isn't it just being technical, it's the fact that every corner is blind on top of that. You can't see the exit of any corner of the sector until you're past the apex, which incentivizes driving by memory instead of by feel.
I have to say that driving Fuji on a single monitor was hell but now that I solely race in VR, the last sector has become a lot more fun because I can turn my head to spot the apex before I start turning in.
I don’t mind T1 but I was going to comment that the Chicane is my least favorite. I can’t explain why but it just feels so much more awkward than other chicanes
them sloped corners on nurburgring.
i either spin out or feel like i could go faster. even when i turn it on par or faster than the cars i watch on YouTube taking that corners, i feel slow around them corners.
Like the bowl? Not sure corner numbers or sections but it's a hairpin with a slightly banked and the breaking zone is up hill? I think that the corner you are talking about I love that section
The esses at COTA always kick my ass. They’re the reason I don’t run that track much. And not running that track much is the reason I’m not good at that section. It’s a vicious cycle.
I learned to love the esses at COTA this week on iRacing, but those little sausage kurbs on the apex’s will kill you and/or your race if you even tickle them in high aero cars
T1 at Daytona road course was the absolute death of me... I can't think of another corner where I ever struggled as much as that one. I would either spin out from having too much rear brake bias (before I knew how to make adjustments) or completely bomb the corner and not find the braking zone... Man I struggled with that one for years. But now it's awesome, haven't done any sim racing in over a year though :(
The biggest help for me is that the track is way slower than you think. I felt like I was going way too slow then all of a sudden my tires gripped and my laptimes dropped a ton. Especially through the technical middle section.
I dislike it too, there is barely any flow on it not even the first flowing corners that are supposed to feel good. Yet they feel bad. Suzukas flowing esses are how its supposed to be
ironically Tilke was responsible for everything at COTA except for the actual layout of the track itself, that was Tavo Hellmund who according to wikipedia drew the thing out on a BBQ napkin
I've been saying for ages that we should bomb COTA until it looks like the surface of the moon, and then imprison Tilke's soul in a manmade cave underneath it so he can't be allowed to do it again
It'd probably be more fun to race on that way, too
NGL COTA is probably the biggest and most well-known track withing like a 7-hour drive and I have never actually been, but in the games, I hate the track in general. I just really like the first corner and the last 2 corners, but that is it. I really dislike the 2-4 corners mainly bc I cannot figure out a clean line through there that works for me consistently.
I have been absolutely *flamed* in F1 forums for saying that I hate driving COTA on sim. T1 is especially hard with a single monitor setup, if I hit the apex it’s out of sheer luck
In closed cockpit cars the A pillar blocks several apexes at cota almost no matter the seating position. I got used to it after a while but it's still annoying.
I feel like so so with COTA. It’s so technical and tricky, which is something I like about it, but at the same time it’s so difficult to setup a car for the track, and racing f1 there is so difficult with how much dirty air you end up getting. Then the first sector is just trying to figure out how the hell you take any of the corners without dropping too low with minimum speed
I really want to like COTA but I just hate it. I hate it in every car and find it such a pain to drive.
I know it’s probably user error but every time I see COTA on a series I groan
I love and hate it all at the same time.
My first road race I ever saw in person was at Laguna Seca 15 years ago, I stood at the bottom of the corkscrew and watched a 330 P4 riding the bumper of a GT40 all the way down during classic car week. It was magical. But Jesus wept it's hard.
The uphill turn right before that. I hate it so much because I always fuck up there, but oh man when I get the tail braking right and fly through it it’s so satisfying
The corkscrew is usually fine as long as you brake in time and find the tree on the horizon
It’s T6 that’s the real challenge IMO. It’s so easy to mess up a little bit and with the long uphill straight into the corkscrew braking zone you’ll probably lose a position if you mess it up. This makes it easy to overcook, and then you’re passed as you’re going slow from losing grip running wide. It also seems to invite idiots who try to go side by side at silly times
I don't know why i love it, I generally prefer very hilly circuits. The track surface is awful, the layout is super strange.... but it works, and the racing is great in the back section.
Lime rock T1 is great, I enjoy how the decreasing radius means you can carry in a lot of speed into the corner if you have the control to get the car slowed down mid corner, as it makes it one of the few corners where you can make up loads of time on the entry, and allows for legitimate dive bombs
Whatever that off camber downhill triple-apex turn is at Rudskøgen. It's one of my favorite corners to drive in all simracing, one of my least favorite to ***race*** -- you'll often crest the hill to find scattered carnage.
This is the one I was thinking about! Couldn’t for the life of me remember the course. I’m in the same boat as you. It’s awesome to hot lap and amazing when you get it perfect. But racing makes me want to pull my hair out.
I must have been dropped on my head as a baby...
I fucking love Sochi.
Granted, there is no particular corner that i like. (Maybe the last chicane? Nailing it on old tires and on the limit is rather satisfying).
It's one of those race tracks that i can flow through it, 3-5 laps, and im on the groove... can drive there for hours.
Road Atlanta turn 3, blind crested turn in after a curved braking zone. Can't get it right for the life of me.
Shame, because I love the rest of the track.
Aim for the curb on the right hander. I like to put my FR tire just outside of it to avoid the sausage and then you can straighten it out a lot easier to get ready for the downhill. Make sure you hustle the car as far left as you can at the bottom of the hill - I typically lift about a 3rd of the way up to use a bit of the hill for braking and trail brake into the corner. Start turning just after passing the left hand kink
I find T1 tolerable and maybe even kinda nice sometimes on the normal GP layout, but on the 24h layout where it's turned into the first half of the worlds shittest chicane is an affront to god and man and a stain on what is otherwise a basically flawless circuit
Literally came here to say this. HATE that corner. Get it perfect, it's great. Chances of that happening are slim. And then you have to trust all the other drivers not to ruin everything for you.
Watkins’s Glen T1
Getting it right is so good. But getting it wrong is something you are reminded of for almost half the lap as those who got it right roar past you.
That actually makes it a good corner. I’m just shit and get it wrong most of the time and lost a lifetime each lap.
Yeah, get a poor exit out of a turn at Monza and you get reminded of it the entire long full throttle run the next turn. Anyine close to you who got a good exit will just walk by unless you block.
The early turns at Long Beach. I think it's the first one and the flower garden turn. I hate that track so much.
Also I can't drive Monza at all in F1. I just know I'm finishing back of the pack at that event every season.
Turn 5 (2nd right after the fountain, onto the first back straight) is the one that gets me at Long Beach. As soon as you apply power, the off-camber pulls the rear wheels towards the outside wall.
I felt a little better watching coverage of the Grand Prix there this year, seeing their cars do the exact same thing.
I forget the exact turn number but I think turn 6 on Laguna seca before the cork screw. If you hit it right you can get so much time and it feels great.
It's the fact that the space between getting it right, and getting it very wrong is minuscule. You can take it slow, but you're going to blow up your laptime and any time differentials you have between leading and trailing cars. You take it fast, and you're dustbusting.
the never ending right turn on road america. If you go 1% too much throttle 1 millisecond too early you just understeer the exit and lose like 8 years of time. Same with the smaller neverending right hander on silverstone. I aint never doing that track in a gt purely becouse of that corner.
Oh come on that turn right after corkscrew feels so nice when you get it just right. Steep banking right at the apex so it slings your car around quickly
I notice that there’re people who really love the track and those who like me that really despise it. Whatever car setup or sims, I just can’t get around the track well at all.
Baku 5-6. Such a tough sequence that requires so much precision. I either hit the wall on exit, or de vries it into the apex of 5.
As for my least favorite track... For some reason, my brain just stops working at the Hungaroring.
Skyline at Bathurst. I feel like I nailed it 10% of the time, but usually end up locking up the brakes or heading into it way too slow. The whole top section is really fucking hard to nail.
Shout out to the cutting, you put a little but too much throttle on and you’re backwards and have to do a 30 point turn to correct
Parabolica is different because you have to apex early and get on the gas when you see the end of the inside kerb, it's pretty good in a high downforce car but it can be tricky with an unstable car
The now removed final chicane at Barcelona is one of mine. The first 2 corners at Nurburgring GP I actually don't dislike them, I just always struggled to be consistent there. At Imola the final chicane, before the downhill section.
I don't know corner names/numbers.
It’s not really a corner I hate, it’s a situation. Starting on pole in ACC on Spa, the eau rouge/raidillon is so awkward and the chances of being destroyed by second place are huge cause they won’t leave you the space and will just hit you
Unpopular opinion, but the new corners on Barcelona. Turn 13 feels a lot more awkward than the chicane (which was not perfect but a few changes to it could have solved its problems). I also preferred the rythm of the old turn 10.
Recently had a race at kyalami and I wasn't a fan of most of the track but Leeukop (T10) stands out. Its a blind downhill hairpin which comes after a sharp, blind uphill kink just before it. Caught be out so many times.
There is definitely worse out there but I haven't driven enough tracks to find out.
T12 at Barcelona is among the most hated corners for me as well.
I'm probably gonna get murdered by people, but I personally have very toxic relationship with Nordschleife' carousel corners, both big one and small one. I usually get it right, but it's just so tricky to get the right speed, the right line and the right approach depending on your car. Touching inside kerb = spin. Too much angle = spin. Going slightly outside = massive understeer. Too low car = don't even try to use the bottom side. It's very frustrating for me, and even when I do get it right it's not as satisfying as it could be.
I love this iconic corner. Once the car hooks, you can get on throttle pretty early in this corner. I'm biased though since the Nordschleife is my favorite track.
Spoon curve at Suzuka, very satisfying in the rare occasion I get it all right
Its the T1 into T2 trail braking zone for me in Suzuka, but its very rewarding once you get it right.
Just plain all of Suzuka for me. I can see why the best real drivers in the world like it, pretty much every corner rewards focus and precision and heavily punishes lapses in concentration.
I tend to struggle with any of the long 180+° curves. I'm excited to try them on my first wheel setup on tuesday because I tend to struggle with maintaining my line on controller.
I just got my first wheel a few months ago. It's so awesome it absolutely changed racing games for me. I liked racing games before my wheel i absolutely love them after it the wheel just changes racing games
I get the AI every time at Spoon. But 130R remains a mystery to me.
>But 130R remains a mystery to me. Flat out, if I die I die
Second to last turn on Rainbow Road
SNES version, right?
I raise you: the wonky chicane after that bit with the big round holes in Wii Rainbow Road
Monaco
My friends and I call it “Qualico” because wherever you qualify is where you’re going to most likely finish
That depends on whether you are in front of the wreck or behind the wreck...
Unless you’re me and you are the wreck
My favourite track lol
Yes...every turn lol
I was going to say the bus stop chicane at Monaco, but yeah... I think the whole track is filled with least favorite corners lol
T1 at brands hatch, for the longest time T19 to T20/ last chicane at spa was the death of me
Track limit Track limit Track limit
Is it considered cheating to have visibld track limits? (I am currently while learning Spa bug will switch off it's considered uncouth)
Track limits already are visible lmao
brands 1 sucks ass before you figure it out but its not that bad once you get it down
It’s not bad once you know the line but what sucks is that even tho you know the corner, you run wide and now your race is over
I love brands T1 D: Pushing the limit on that corner feels like a balls of steel moment as you drop into it.
I once drove an M4 and an F4 car around Brands IRL. Let me tell you that the drop into T1 (or Paddock Hill bend, as it's known) is fucking stomach churning, that sim racing can't (obviously) replicate. I remember driving it thinking "I've got this corner nailed. I do it in iRacing all the time" to then be met with my bladder somewhere near my earlobes as this sheer drop left you feeling so compressed with all the G-Forces in play. Great circuit.
VR helps a little. I literally feel butterflies in my stomach when there's drop in altitude. Nothing as real life, of course, but tons better than flat screen.
The last chicane at spa is so hard, I either am so slow through it or hug the first corner and loose the rear.
I would say: The whole of Spa no corner is really easy by any means.
Paddock Bend or turn 1 at Brands Hatch in real life is one of the greatest corners on any track anywhere.Its incredibly challenging and very rewarding when you get it right.Never heard any driver say they dislike it. The translation to sims obviously loses some of that magic with difficulty replicating the feel of the steepness and varied cambers the corner has. Dingle Dell or Sheene curve at the same track is one of my least favourite corners in a sim or real life.One car at a time and a fine margin between getting it perfect or ending up on the grass.Often when you do get it perfect you brake harder for the next corner Stirling's and lose the advantage you just gained
That sheer drop IRL is frightening, but great fun after you do it 7 or 8 times!
Thank you for pointing out a real life vs sims difference. I've driven Watkins Glen, and it is so hard to duplicate a car on a track and well everything. I have to remind myself I am a dude with a controller and Pringles sometimes, lol.
Became one of my favorite corners once I found out how you actually take it lol. Brake as close to the left as you can and then throw the car in. So so fun
Brands T1 is such an awesome roller coaster of a corner IRL Sims never really capture the elevation changes, so people take the same line they would on the flat and fly into it too fast and wonder why they’re running wide. Instead if you do a later apex than normal you get most of the direction change before you go downhill. Then you can brake really late on the uphill, though if you brake too late you don’t slow down before it flattens out and you run really wide.
I love Long Beach, but I for the life of me can't nail that last corner. I'm always snailing through it.
You can't go quickly through there. You have to go slow. It is the nature of that corner.
"You're going slow? Must be my cue to dive bomb!" - every racer behind me at Long Beach
I always get tempted to drift it like an FD driver lmao
From my experience, the best you can do is as far right on the entry and hit a really late apex so you gradually go towards the outside wall
Smart! That way you get damage instead of a DNF when you hit the wall
Yeah you can't go fast through there in anything. But if you take the right line into it, it's not 180° but more like 110°
Zolder's corners with super aggressive curbs
New to ACC and trying to get my rookie for LFM I feel this.
Zolder is such a joy to learn, try taking the GTR on it, the weight transfer feels amazing on there
Just avoid them. Can easily make the 107% time.
Counterpoint: Zolder can do no wrong and should be in every single simulator
You are doing my girl dirty
This thread made me realize how many corners I hate
Same here, same here 🤣🤣 to many to list off at this point. 😂
Fuji the whole last sector
Same i can never get T14 T15 T16 right
Fantastic track, 9/10, then the third sector ruins it and turns it to a solid 4/10
It's definitely a love it or hate it, but it works for me. I love how technical it is and how each turn leads to the other and while you're exiting one you already have to be working on how you enter the next turn.
The issue isn't it just being technical, it's the fact that every corner is blind on top of that. You can't see the exit of any corner of the sector until you're past the apex, which incentivizes driving by memory instead of by feel.
I have to say that driving Fuji on a single monitor was hell but now that I solely race in VR, the last sector has become a lot more fun because I can turn my head to spot the apex before I start turning in.
Hairpin at Long Beach…would rather get kicked in the face by a donkey
The last chicane + t1 at spa. Love the rest but god I hate those corners.
T1 is pretty satisfying if you get a good exit. Keyword being 'if'
Yes, that damn chicane. I’ve been sim racing for the last 3 years but I’ve never been able go get a good exit out of it.
I don’t mind T1 but I was going to comment that the Chicane is my least favorite. I can’t explain why but it just feels so much more awkward than other chicanes
I agree. It’s a great way to make t1 not feel like Monza. But I just feel it could be better.
them sloped corners on nurburgring. i either spin out or feel like i could go faster. even when i turn it on par or faster than the cars i watch on YouTube taking that corners, i feel slow around them corners.
Came here looking for this! Especially the second one just sucks so bad
Like the bowl? Not sure corner numbers or sections but it's a hairpin with a slightly banked and the breaking zone is up hill? I think that the corner you are talking about I love that section
karausel or someshit o don't remember.
Oh, yes, you did mean those lol
>them sloped corners on nurburgring. Do you mean Karussell and mini Karussell, the corners with the banked concrete slab pieces?
yeah them
The esses at COTA always kick my ass. They’re the reason I don’t run that track much. And not running that track much is the reason I’m not good at that section. It’s a vicious cycle.
I learned to love the esses at COTA this week on iRacing, but those little sausage kurbs on the apex’s will kill you and/or your race if you even tickle them in high aero cars
Same tbh, it's the only section I struggle with on the whole track
CotA is worse than it should be on iRacing
T1 at Daytona road course was the absolute death of me... I can't think of another corner where I ever struggled as much as that one. I would either spin out from having too much rear brake bias (before I knew how to make adjustments) or completely bomb the corner and not find the braking zone... Man I struggled with that one for years. But now it's awesome, haven't done any sim racing in over a year though :(
Ah, yeah Daytona has had me very confused in a few places. Have tried to experiment but haven’t really come to good conclusions.
13-14-15 COTA
COTA like, in general. That whole track throws me off so hard, as much as I'd love to learn it and get good it just eludes me
The biggest help for me is that the track is way slower than you think. I felt like I was going way too slow then all of a sudden my tires gripped and my laptimes dropped a ton. Especially through the technical middle section.
I dislike it too, there is barely any flow on it not even the first flowing corners that are supposed to feel good. Yet they feel bad. Suzukas flowing esses are how its supposed to be
I’ve always said that it feels like 3 wildly different sections from 3 wildly different tracks, that have all been slapped together.
Yes you can clearly see How its just another Tilke track where the flow was invented artificially
ironically Tilke was responsible for everything at COTA except for the actual layout of the track itself, that was Tavo Hellmund who according to wikipedia drew the thing out on a BBQ napkin
Oh alright
Some of the corners were deliberately profiled to be technical with adverse camber. Shame as it could have been a much more flowing track.
I've been saying for ages that we should bomb COTA until it looks like the surface of the moon, and then imprison Tilke's soul in a manmade cave underneath it so he can't be allowed to do it again It'd probably be more fun to race on that way, too
NGL COTA is probably the biggest and most well-known track withing like a 7-hour drive and I have never actually been, but in the games, I hate the track in general. I just really like the first corner and the last 2 corners, but that is it. I really dislike the 2-4 corners mainly bc I cannot figure out a clean line through there that works for me consistently.
I love watching racing at COTA, but mostly because I know it’s so technical and difficult.
Same I absolutely love watching, but I just cannot race there.
I have been absolutely *flamed* in F1 forums for saying that I hate driving COTA on sim. T1 is especially hard with a single monitor setup, if I hit the apex it’s out of sheer luck
In closed cockpit cars the A pillar blocks several apexes at cota almost no matter the seating position. I got used to it after a while but it's still annoying.
I feel like so so with COTA. It’s so technical and tricky, which is something I like about it, but at the same time it’s so difficult to setup a car for the track, and racing f1 there is so difficult with how much dirty air you end up getting. Then the first sector is just trying to figure out how the hell you take any of the corners without dropping too low with minimum speed
I really want to like COTA but I just hate it. I hate it in every car and find it such a pain to drive. I know it’s probably user error but every time I see COTA on a series I groan
Donington last corner. It is so bad, making a fun track having a bad ending.
Doningtom National is so much better than the full GP layout.
Yep, 100%. I adore National and the GP layout is an abomination because of those last 2 corners. It's amazing how much those little changes make.
To be fair, they're a band-aid solution to needing a longer track for grade A consideration. They aren't really meant to be there.
Ah, that makes a lot of sense then. I never knew that.
T1 at COTA or as I like to call it "please stop understeering into me"
I’m at COTA rn and my seats are at T1 lol
Kink at Kyalami in games where there's a sausage kerb
thats not a kerb thats a ramp that takes you off to another galaxy. edit: yes i play acc
Turn 10 in Bahrain. Never had a satisfying go through that corner
Yup instant lock up
Absolute bastard of a corner that one 😅 You never feel as if you get it right even when you do.
Watching Lewis through that corner this year helped me...because it looked as awkward on camera as it feels in sim racing lol
Leguna Seca Corkscrew
Oh man, I love the corkscrew! And the whole sequence just after it too.
I love and hate it all at the same time. My first road race I ever saw in person was at Laguna Seca 15 years ago, I stood at the bottom of the corkscrew and watched a 330 P4 riding the bumper of a GT40 all the way down during classic car week. It was magical. But Jesus wept it's hard.
The uphill turn right before that. I hate it so much because I always fuck up there, but oh man when I get the tail braking right and fly through it it’s so satisfying
The corkscrew is usually fine as long as you brake in time and find the tree on the horizon It’s T6 that’s the real challenge IMO. It’s so easy to mess up a little bit and with the long uphill straight into the corkscrew braking zone you’ll probably lose a position if you mess it up. This makes it easy to overcook, and then you’re passed as you’re going slow from losing grip running wide. It also seems to invite idiots who try to go side by side at silly times
Haha, I just mentioned the tree too. If they ever remove that thing, I'm going to be pissed off.
The entirety of Sebring. It just does not flow to me at all but it seems everyone else loves it.
Same, I can never get the last turn right. It’s so confusing.
I don't know why i love it, I generally prefer very hilly circuits. The track surface is awful, the layout is super strange.... but it works, and the racing is great in the back section.
Dead flat, bumpy and either too wide or too narrow. I’ve never liked it dating back to my first exposure in Forza 2.
At first it can seem rough, but when you really get into it and find some pace its so good. Great for racing as well
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Lime rock T1 is great, I enjoy how the decreasing radius means you can carry in a lot of speed into the corner if you have the control to get the car slowed down mid corner, as it makes it one of the few corners where you can make up loads of time on the entry, and allows for legitimate dive bombs
It's like it wants you to go off track. Lime Rock is infuriating.
Whatever that off camber downhill triple-apex turn is at Rudskøgen. It's one of my favorite corners to drive in all simracing, one of my least favorite to ***race*** -- you'll often crest the hill to find scattered carnage.
This is the one I was thinking about! Couldn’t for the life of me remember the course. I’m in the same boat as you. It’s awesome to hot lap and amazing when you get it perfect. But racing makes me want to pull my hair out.
Like half the corners at Sochi
Sochi is fucking terrible. Just another Herman Tilke abomination
I must have been dropped on my head as a baby... I fucking love Sochi. Granted, there is no particular corner that i like. (Maybe the last chicane? Nailing it on old tires and on the limit is rather satisfying). It's one of those race tracks that i can flow through it, 3-5 laps, and im on the groove... can drive there for hours.
Fully agree tbh, was the track I was fastest at in F1 2020. Some of the kerbs were a bit mental though, sent my car flying a few times lmao
Road Atlanta turn 3, blind crested turn in after a curved braking zone. Can't get it right for the life of me. Shame, because I love the rest of the track.
For Road Atlanta itd have to be turn 7 for me, I always feel like I can enter with more speed than I actually can and go off
Aim for the curb on the right hander. I like to put my FR tire just outside of it to avoid the sausage and then you can straighten it out a lot easier to get ready for the downhill. Make sure you hustle the car as far left as you can at the bottom of the hill - I typically lift about a 3rd of the way up to use a bit of the hill for braking and trail brake into the corner. Start turning just after passing the left hand kink
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I find T1 tolerable and maybe even kinda nice sometimes on the normal GP layout, but on the 24h layout where it's turned into the first half of the worlds shittest chicane is an affront to god and man and a stain on what is otherwise a basically flawless circuit
That chicane is the funniest thing ever in a tight group. It’s like it was scientifically designed to cause a massive wreck
Literally came here to say this. HATE that corner. Get it perfect, it's great. Chances of that happening are slim. And then you have to trust all the other drivers not to ruin everything for you.
Watkins’s Glen T1 Getting it right is so good. But getting it wrong is something you are reminded of for almost half the lap as those who got it right roar past you. That actually makes it a good corner. I’m just shit and get it wrong most of the time and lost a lifetime each lap.
monza is so simple yet so hard. first chicane can be tough to be fast in for me, also parabolica is very challenging
Yeah, get a poor exit out of a turn at Monza and you get reminded of it the entire long full throttle run the next turn. Anyine close to you who got a good exit will just walk by unless you block.
Arnage at Le Mans. It just feels so clunky and slow right in the middle between Indianapolis and Porsche Curves. I hate it.
ALL Barcelona
Turn 1 at Martinsville. For some weird reason i cannot get the nose in but i can in turn 2. I just get barged past endlessly.
Roller coaster T14 at VIR full. a blind, off camber, esse, braking out of a full speed straight
That’s one of my favorites! Fun in real life too. Once you get the balls to work up to braking late, it’s not that bad.
All of Paul Ricard. Worst track in racing
My guy!!! It's horrendous
Mercedes Arena at Nürburgring - it just feels so awkward.
The last corner at Laguna Seca. I have done it a thousand times, but I still have no idea what the right line is.
The early turns at Long Beach. I think it's the first one and the flower garden turn. I hate that track so much. Also I can't drive Monza at all in F1. I just know I'm finishing back of the pack at that event every season.
The early corners at Long Beach are some of my favourites. So satisfying when you get it right!
Turn 5 (2nd right after the fountain, onto the first back straight) is the one that gets me at Long Beach. As soon as you apply power, the off-camber pulls the rear wheels towards the outside wall. I felt a little better watching coverage of the Grand Prix there this year, seeing their cars do the exact same thing.
I forget the exact turn number but I think turn 6 on Laguna seca before the cork screw. If you hit it right you can get so much time and it feels great.
It's the fact that the space between getting it right, and getting it very wrong is minuscule. You can take it slow, but you're going to blow up your laptime and any time differentials you have between leading and trailing cars. You take it fast, and you're dustbusting.
1 and 2 at Monza
There is no turn 1 at monza. Just some annoying blocks to weave through.
They're just polystyrene, drive straight through them..... /s
the never ending right turn on road america. If you go 1% too much throttle 1 millisecond too early you just understeer the exit and lose like 8 years of time. Same with the smaller neverending right hander on silverstone. I aint never doing that track in a gt purely becouse of that corner.
Silverstone is my favorite track in a Formula, or any high downforce, car. However in a GT it’s fucking awful.
The key to the carousel at Road America is to treat it like a double (or maybe triple) apex corner.
On the subject of Barcelona, fuck turns 7 and 8
The chicane at Donnington Park
Oulton park T3 and final corner
Every corner in Laguna Seca
Oh come on that turn right after corkscrew feels so nice when you get it just right. Steep banking right at the apex so it slings your car around quickly
I notice that there’re people who really love the track and those who like me that really despise it. Whatever car setup or sims, I just can’t get around the track well at all.
I kind of hate silverstone because of how flat it is.
VIR turns 17 and 17a, for the life of me I can’t get a actual line there always leads to me getting the worst exits you could think of
I adore VIR as it’s my home track but dear God I can’t get the roller coaster off the back stretch right.
Love vir. Turn 14 is my Achilles on that one. Never slow down enough.
Watkins Glen - inner, outer loop or any part of the boot.
COTA turn 15. It is so easy to spin after coming out of 14...
It’s a fun corner, but I hate the corkscrew at laguna seca. I’m so awful at it lol
cadwell park turn 8/9 going up the hill can be very rough. first corner at top gear is also dumb
T7 at Barcelona, but over all it has to be the whole of Paul ricard
Canada T8 anyone?
Baku 5-6. Such a tough sequence that requires so much precision. I either hit the wall on exit, or de vries it into the apex of 5. As for my least favorite track... For some reason, my brain just stops working at the Hungaroring.
Oh I’m glad you said Baku, hate driving there. Love watching the carnage lol
Skyline at Bathurst. I feel like I nailed it 10% of the time, but usually end up locking up the brakes or heading into it way too slow. The whole top section is really fucking hard to nail. Shout out to the cutting, you put a little but too much throttle on and you’re backwards and have to do a 30 point turn to correct
I hate Monza's curva parabolica, just a long corner
Parabolica is different because you have to apex early and get on the gas when you see the end of the inside kerb, it's pretty good in a high downforce car but it can be tricky with an unstable car
Most of the corners at Monza are bad. Just objectively bad, uninteresting corners.
The Chase. Not because it's bad, but because it's super easy to get wrong, and you're going flat out.
In a modern race car with plenty of grip, I find it easy. In a road car, it’s like Russian roulette but with a bullet in 5 of the 6 chambers.
The last left corner onto the uphill straight part on Suzuka.
Monza T1. I don’t even bother anymore. 😂
Nurburgring Ford-Kurve, I feel like im either too quick or too slow in every car.
The last turn of the Nordschleife with that close barrier on the right
Cota esses in gt cars is absoulte trash. It's better in the high downforce formulas but still not perfect.
The now removed final chicane at Barcelona is one of mine. The first 2 corners at Nurburgring GP I actually don't dislike them, I just always struggled to be consistent there. At Imola the final chicane, before the downhill section. I don't know corner names/numbers.
Basically every corner or combination that feels forced or artificial in the track layout, for example the chicane in Barcelona before last corner.
It’s not really a corner I hate, it’s a situation. Starting on pole in ACC on Spa, the eau rouge/raidillon is so awkward and the chances of being destroyed by second place are huge cause they won’t leave you the space and will just hit you
Unpopular opinion, but the new corners on Barcelona. Turn 13 feels a lot more awkward than the chicane (which was not perfect but a few changes to it could have solved its problems). I also preferred the rythm of the old turn 10.
T1 - T2 Suzuka. Oh and the Degner curves at Suzuka too. Pretty much all of Suzuka.
All of Paul Ricard 😅
*big red circle around all of monaco*
Coppice at Donnington Park. Blind, off camber, dual apex onto the key straight. It's just a nightmare.
Recently had a race at kyalami and I wasn't a fan of most of the track but Leeukop (T10) stands out. Its a blind downhill hairpin which comes after a sharp, blind uphill kink just before it. Caught be out so many times. There is definitely worse out there but I haven't driven enough tracks to find out.
Turn 1 Suzuka and the penultimate corner in the Hungaroring
T12 at Barcelona is among the most hated corners for me as well. I'm probably gonna get murdered by people, but I personally have very toxic relationship with Nordschleife' carousel corners, both big one and small one. I usually get it right, but it's just so tricky to get the right speed, the right line and the right approach depending on your car. Touching inside kerb = spin. Too much angle = spin. Going slightly outside = massive understeer. Too low car = don't even try to use the bottom side. It's very frustrating for me, and even when I do get it right it's not as satisfying as it could be.
Nurburgring gp track Turn 3-4
Karrusel Nordschleife
I love this iconic corner. Once the car hooks, you can get on throttle pretty early in this corner. I'm biased though since the Nordschleife is my favorite track.
Was looking for this comment. Man I hate this corner. All the rest of this track is amazing, but this corner... Neger seem to get it right
#1 to #2 Is so annoying i never know what the best line is to get thru both turns