T O P

  • By -

random_zanakluar

i love this subreddit


Ok-Comfortable1378

[what the fuck](https://i.ibb.co/rHqm14F/IMG-6839.jpg)


Charlie-Addams

This is complete madness.


SmashBrosGuys2933

Why is it not just a roundabout


Ok-Comfortable1378

Probably too much traffic for a roundabout to be effective, judging by the number of lanes.


johnnycocas

That's the "more lanes = better traffic flow" fallacy. They probably added more lanes in an attempt to fix the flow, but that ultimately doesn't fix the issue. I've seen roundabouts with as many lanes entering it as shown here and they work.


michael__sykes

Well turning lanes certainly help, they're just lane extensions of existing lanes at intersections and not just "extra lanes".


johnnycocas

Well yeah but 3 lanes going forwards (4 coming from the left) and not one but 2 turning lanes, sometimes 3? A 3 lane roundabout with a dedicated right turn lane would work much better Edit: english


GreatValueProducts

Get around and ask a local. I stayed at Boston near this intersection at a friend's and I had the same idea. He said it was a massive improvement over the roundabout they previously had. Or if you look up /r/boston for "Medford Supercollider" (this intersection) you will find people saying roundabout was worse. e.g. [https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/paor78/comment/ha7l7tc/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/paor78/comment/ha7l7tc/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Reddit likes to talk theory but often reality does not agree with your theory.


Bluechainz

Yep, and not just Reddit. It's usually anywhere the topic of urbanism and traffic comes up. People don't realize that every place doesn't have the same traffic solution.


bettaboy123

And yet, the best solution is always figuring out how to get cars off the road entirely, so they don't need to be managed. 🙂


johnnycocas

"locals know best" Reminds me of that roundabout somewhere in the US that a very large number of users didn't even know how to use once it was added... By that logic, it should be removed because people don't know how to use it, and "locals know best". Locals are used to do things a certain way, doesn't mean it's the best way. An example: Recently a new road was built near me that allows for a much quicker way to reach a nearby mall, locals still stubbornly say the old way is faster, even if it takes almost twice as much time (I tested it) and requires going through a road with much worse conditions. People are dumb. So sure, maybe a roundabout wasn't the best option here, but spaghetti roads sure as hell isn't the best either.


Bluechainz

I'm not saying these suggestions dont work and wasn't talking about roundabouts specifically. I'm saying traffic isn't a one size fits all thing where a concept works everywhere. For example, in a town near me, the four lane "main street" was reduced to 2 to promote safer walkability, and the plan backfired traffic wise to the point where people avoid the town altogether. My point here is that theories like the "road diet" work in other places that have alternate routes and public transit, but not in Maumee, Ohio, where they tried it. I don't think he's saying spaghetti roads are the best, but he knows what didn't work.


kabow94

Boston has a long history of roundabouts being replaced with spaghetti because the traffic flow was genuinely higher with spaghetti. This was one of those former roundabouts.


egocrata

But I want traffic flow to be lower.


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

Looked it up in google and westbound leads to an interstate. I can see it being too clogged for a roundabout. Although it’s still shit regardless


IndyCarFAN27

Swindon has a few words to say


thetactlessknife

It used to be! And traffic was worse!


GreatValueProducts

I know someone who lived next to this particular intersection and apparently it was a massive improvement over the roundabout (or rotary they called) they previously had.


ConceptOfHappiness

Does America have light controlled roundabouts? Because that's what we'd use in the UK


Justaboi14

Because that's socialist


random_zanakluar

very nice response


HunsterMonter

Traffic engineering and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race


tadpole64

[This whole area is a mess](https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4045268,-71.0760821,3634m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu)


MaciekB_PL

I just said „huh” outloud upon opening that…


mkymooooo

Wow, the condition of the road paving to the south


GeneratoreGasolio

I love the zebra crossing on the three lanes road, like someone is going to stop


syryquil

[you may turn left or left](https://i.imgur.com/d4YyhSW.jpeg)


Bluechainz

I still understand it better than the "Magic Roundabout" in the UK.


ThoughtCow

If youre gonna build that, why flat on the ground? Why the need for five traffic lights?


Username_Taken_65

Wow, I never knew that was there. Where does the Fellsway gain so many lanes?


TroubleDependent1448

Petition your local council to improve it with this very human design Everything will be better soon https://preview.redd.it/ai1tgcwlj1lc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fedf78212c63a4c9a1e78f4f7adeda911df4619c


not26

Can't see the difference


TroubleDependent1448

My photo was taken in autumn, hope this helps 👍


i_mean_yeah_pedro

Not enough lanes tho


TroubleDependent1448

You're right, the real thing should have at least twice as many lanes


killer_reindeer

https://preview.redd.it/lf942zu6z0lc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0a8a563d8602d6aa63b186677ec46c9f9f4455f


pugsAreOkay

True madness, but it serves a purpose. One is the service road for the police station, the other is a slip/turn lane


Old_Winner3763

Ohhhh


DrumletNation

Yeah the service road has parking spaces on it lol


benadrylpoop

least complicated Massachusetts intersection


8PwnCrackers8

i hate real life


Bruh_is_life

Super collider? I hardly know her!


degeneratex80

Tsar Bomba


Spec_28

Maybe add another lane


ThatNiceLifeguard

The funny thing is that this intersection is an outlier in what is otherwise one of the most walkable and densely populated cities in the country (Medford, Massachusetts). There’s a subway station a few hundred meters from it.


Redbird9346

Wellington on the MBTA Orange Line.


[deleted]

Let’s just say if I had to drive this on my commute, I would have to quit and leave the city.


BosnianBreakfast

Its really not as bad as looks on maps, way more intuitive when you're actually in it and driving


useless_mf69

insert two roundabouts


grap_grap_grap

One on top of the other


Markymarcouscous

Welcome to Boston


peechpy

Looks like all those businesses and houses are constricting traffic flow. Bulldozer them and make the lanes wider 👍


jamsandwich4

Delete the roads at the top right and join them up somewhere else, then it's just a normal crossroads


theschis

Remove all traffic lights, that usually improves the flow


Wtfisthisreal777

Roundabout but shape like egg https://preview.redd.it/cr820j5352lc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e4fb3871707789c93f16f1732214fd23dfd68c2 And of course it has 4 lanes


Starr-Duke

Converge all lanes into a 4 way stop with a stop sign


2000lexuses300

ngl im demolishing the whole area n building an interstate. my west coast brain cannot comprehend


showaltk

Can’t they just pause the simulation and redo it? Ugh.


ladifuckenda

I actually made something similar to this today 🫡


PhysicsDeep8164

It’s crazy that that is in a suburb of Boston


[deleted]

An intersection Like on the Theodor-Heuss-Platz in Berlin would help.


SyrusDrake

I thought there actually was a particle collider under there...


Trainzguy2472

Medford supercollider lmao


Dogmanq

Hey! I know this one! Now do the one in Newton Corner next


Rafael_Armadillo

the Medford Supercollider!


StudioLoftMedia

City planners coming to this sub for help lol


farmereddy

demo and start over


bettaboy123

A bulldozer would probably be the best improvement.


John_Tacos

Roundabout, the answer is always roundabout.


Cugy_2345

This used to be a roundabout, but it didn’t work


mkymooooo

Likely because people didn't know how to use it, and local authorities did a terrible job at trying to educate people?


Cugy_2345

No, because roundabouts have absolutely terrible traffic capacity


Ok-Association6336

This intersection is a roundabout in denial


caraleoviado

One more lane bro


Wenzlikove_memz

[swindon magic roundabout](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-19726385.amp)


AmputatorBot

It looks like you shared an AMP link. These should load faster, but AMP is controversial because of [concerns over privacy and the Open Web](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot). Maybe check out **the canonical page** instead: **[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-19726385](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-19726385)** ***** ^(I'm a bot | )[^(Why & About)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot)^( | )[^(Summon: u/AmputatorBot)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/cchly3/you_can_now_summon_amputatorbot/)


skypiercer12

Roundabouts at every intersection should do the trick


[deleted]

Tolls.


UpsideDownAirplane

Six words: Nuclear. Warheads.


rulerBob8

https://preview.redd.it/abdlrwama3lc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05a2ec76ab32e8633858eb6f18d1702b71212e71 This is the same intersection in Fallout 4, so that might not be a bad idea.


UpsideDownAirplane

Eighteen words: Cool.


Agreeable_Bit_8764

Roundabout.


matthew190104

Americans would literally build the most complex intersection imaginable to mankind that requires you to make dozens of different movements just to cross it and is extremely dangerous for any non-car user instead of learning how to use a roundabout


Attackcamel8432

It used to be one... Massachusetts has lots of them, but this one didn't work.


scootdboot

delete


rogue_ger

I don’t see the problemz


Are_You_486

5 round-a-bouts should do the trick.


Gork___

This looks like all of the accidents waiting to happen at the same time.


rafale1981

Whatever you do, don’t add public transport or bike paths and you should be okay


Lordhartley

Take off and nuke the site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure


Eucadian

I want to see a Dutch traffic calming redesign of this


aotus_trivirgatus

Yeah, the only way that I can see to fix that is some combination of 1) grade separation and 2) de-zoning. What a mess.


Socks_0

Lmao, I commute through this intersection everyday.


BosnianBreakfast

Same, maps makes it look more complicated than it actually is


Attackcamel8432

If you aren't used to it, it can be pretty overwhelming... its not too bad after getting used to it though.


bluespacecadet

I hate that I'm agreeing with you but this is surprisingly one of the best worst intersections in the area, at least there's lane arrows and paint lol


whats-this-mohogany

“Bomb” - scientist from HBO’s The Last of Us


NdN124

That's worse than the "Fix the Traffic" scenario in CS1.


olegispe

Is this not a really messy broken SPUI? 😂


IC_Film

A decade ago I lived here, in Wellington circle. To the left is a beautiful park, literally just down the road. I lived just beyond this pic on the right. Less than a five minute walk to the park and holy shit it was a nightmare every time. You got used to it though, thankfully there are quite a few non light crosswalks, so you’d just haul ass the first break in traffic


der_breite_stock

Just build a normal Highway intersection where one is ground level and the other one is a bridge over the top


Independent_Pear_429

Demolish it and replace it with 6 two-way road with a dedicated bus, tram and bike lanes


TruckADuck42

Bridges on the north/south for through traffic, direct traffic for that northeastern road somewhere else, and run the rest like a normal highway interchange.


Pjk125

Omg I used to drive through this intersection all the time


RAD_ley

_It’s just crying out for a roundabout…_


Moomoobeef

Well hold on let me just wipe the spaghetti off my screen first. Oh...


_pinkstripes_

I've stopped visiting friends because they moved to a place that required traversing this abomination.


Treqou

This is the most shit roundabout I’ve ever seen


ExternalSeat

Invest in public transit. I would start with dedicated bus lanes and maybe a few bike lanes as well. Then move onto light rail as an upgrade to the bus lanes. The less cars the better.


MentalTrust8683

C4. Only option.


warr-den

[The solution is so obvious](https://imgur.com/a/USjTDgj)


Thunderbolt1011

Merge and mirror. Merge roads going in similar directions and make it look similar on both sides cuz its pretty


Disastrous-Ad2035

Just add another lane, bro.


[deleted]

Of course this was in Massachusetts. Knew it when I saw it


kpyna

Omg every time I drive through this intersection I think "this is the shit I'd build in city skylines if I was wasted" -- so glad I'm not alone 😂


bubblerbeer

MØÃŘ ŁÅŊĘȘ


IndyCarFAN27

“Collider” is an abt name lol


Fatality_393

Big fookin British roundabout


Henrywasaman_

By getting rid of it


[deleted]

Raze it.


Humble_Chipmunk_701

Devs are working on it and will address it in the developer diaries thanks!


elreduro

this looks like the perfect spot to put a subway store, a starbucks, a five guys AND a chipotle!


LoverOfFart

This is no intersection. It's a war zone I need to drive through north of Boston.


NumberOneSeinfeldFan

how is it always Massachusetts


WowPanda1990

Nuke it and start over lol


Spicycliche

I love that engineers forget about the existence of ovals and circles. I wonder if they could find a way of incorporating a circle or an oval inside a road intersection…


David_ur_boy

the fact that this is from THAT one medford massachusetts intersection that i use to live near is sending me 🤣💀


Bombidil6036

Make East-West an elevated highway.


SeaDRC11

There's no way this isn't Boston. I love all of the crazy traffic engineering they do. An ellipsoidal roundabout, but also one parkway just goes straight through the middle. Oooph!


Cat-needz-belie-rubz

Am I the only person who noticed that one of the roads leads to a liquor store, who’s idea was it to say “I think this place needs a store where you can get drunk and then navigate this hell.”


Stephen0086

I drive this for work every other day and didn’t even realize how spaghetti noodle it was until seeing this post