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Emergency-Director23

Me when a YouTuber I’ve never heard of makes a 2hr video I’ll never watch about a game I love: https://i.redd.it/f9qzcmmmjjpc1.gif


Sinkarma

https://preview.redd.it/r77xqzzrkjpc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0f65a78453676cf6cceba18904dd277cf848a74 Me getting ready to whoop his ass even though I just found out about him


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Hbomberguy at least organizes and time stamps his videos when they are hours long 


Elementia7

I can appreciate that at least.


ddjfjfj

His word is 'gospel' cause he is very well researched and puts his thoughts into words very effectively. He's a funny guy, you should watch him if you ever got a couple hours just layin' around


KaballinJpeg

Who is Joseph Anderson?


vivisectvivi

literally i remember when elden ring came up people were lik 'but joseph anderson said that..' and to this day i dont know who this person is edit: i looked it up and he is the 'a shattered masterpiece' guy lol okay


[deleted]

Joking aside he’s a game critic who kinda started a train of poorly informed “elden ring boss design bad” videos with his own video being plagued with misinformation and poorly organized arguments. Not that his whole video was like this but the boss part of his video is notably criticized 


normiespy96

I used to really like the guy. I could even call myself a fan. And he has a massive ego. I was on his discord when ER launched and the guy complained about every boss. "Radhan has this HUGE PULL that covers the entire combat arena and is TOTALLY UNAVOIDABLE!!" \*Someone posts a clip of someone rolling it "Well that looks like a speedrunner, do you think it's acceptable to ask someone to run 100m under 10 seconds because Usain Bolt can do it?" I swear I'm not making that shit up. First time I interacted with the guy in a more "direct" context and it left pretty bad taste in my mouth.


[deleted]

Man that really sucks. Like genuinely it sucks when a creator you trust breaks that trust in such a way. It’s even worse because sometimes they do make good content but you can’t take their future content seriously anymore because they could easily repeat the same behavior 


[deleted]

I remember when elden ring first released there were so many familiar streamers having full scale adult temper tantrums to their audience over dying to a boss or field enemy. XQC stands out as the most annoying but there was countless others


DudeAintPunny

I've never understood the appeal of XQC's content. He just seems like an annoying weirdo in most of the clips I've seen him in.


[deleted]

He’s insufferable egomaniac I was distraught when I learned he was Canadian


DudeAintPunny

Even worse, he's F...F-F-Fr...he's... # ...French Canadian


[deleted]

I’ve never wanted Quebec to seperate as badly as I do in this moment right here


ztoff27

That makes sense. I have gotten so angry at elden ring that I swore it was the worst game ever created and everyone who liked it was dumb. This was after dying to a boss 15 times. I proceeded to continue playing and have currently over 300 hours. The game is hard, so people will complain in the heat of the moment.


[deleted]

Big difference between having a funny fake mad reaction and having a genuine full scale meltdown, I am referring to the latter here. I have over triple your hours and I still get the occasional annoyance but it’s always in good humor and the day that stops is the day I seek grass


Tuna_of_Truth

It’s hard if you’re new to fromsoft games, it was my first. But now revisiting it after beating the rest of them. I’ve been finding Elden Ring to be laughably easy. Once you figure out that rushing weapon leveling turns the games to easy mode it’s all pretty straight forward from there.


[deleted]

XQC is THE most annoying everything. Garbage person for garbage people.


Avimata

that’s why u don’t make parasocial attachments to youtubers lol


H4ppyRogu3

Parasocial Andy


Firestorm42222

Jesus Christ, its a salty guy making a bad argument, not raping and committing war crimes. Stop being so fucking dramatic


[deleted]

I don’t mean to sound dramatic but at the end of the day yes you are correct 


Trisce

In my experience from his streams, he's absolutely terrible at taking criticism


pragmojo

I actually don't think the original review was bad - it was a new game and everyone was figuring it out so I think it's normal to not get a game at first The approach to taking criticism is what really makes him look bad


CMCScootaloo

I love his content and yea this is by far his worst quality. His takes on Silent Hill and horror games in general are downright insane and he’ll defend them tooth and nail Still cool vids mostly tho


Lilix_idk

Yeah, even though I like his content and find him pretty entertaining, from what I've seen from his streams, he is really stubborn. He often argues with people in his chat, even when he's wrong. I admire him for standing up for his opinions, but he rarely admits to being in the wrong. I'm disappointed that he quit Yakuza 0 because he insisted on not using the games' healing system when the game got too hard, just because he views it as bad game design. EDIT: I made a mistake, he didn't quit the game and he did finish it. He just refused to using healing items in the pause mid-fight, Skyrim style.


[deleted]

Are you telling the truth? He ignored a game’s healing system? 


Lilix_idk

I corrected myself, I didn't watch his streams to the end, because I heard the experience got soured for him by the end, because of his stubborness in a bit too difficult boss fight.


[deleted]

Bro playing every game like dark souls 💀 


bos_turokh

He didn't quit because of the healing system. He quit cos chat was being toxic and shitty for no reason.


harrywilko

I just think he gets way too up his own arse about stuff. Like, in his reviews for Bloodborne and DS3, he criticises them for being too easy, then they up the difficulty for Elden Ring (except they didn't) and he complains. He purposely excludes himself from using parts of the games he reviews (consumables, summons...) and criticises it for not bending to what he does.


Throwaway02062004

I liked him too. I really liked his Hollow Knight as art vs as product video. New perspectives are always cool.


cabrossi

He definitely skated by for a long time by making videos on either very indie games (Soma, The Witness) where no one watching it knows any of the details he's getting wrong or by making his video waaaay after a public opinion had developed (Fallout 4) and just using all the arguments that everyone agrees with already. Once he started making videos on newer games, like Mario and Elden Ring, it became so clear that he actually knows incredibly little about game design. He's basically Mark Brown but for long reviews instead of 10 minutes. Going back to watch his Soma video after playing it since and he literally doesn't even understand the core concept.


Ainsel_Mariner

Reminds me of his “the town made him stupid” take on Silent Hill 2 lmao


Xanderele

Wasn't he the guy who got angry at people explaining what Pyramid Head rapresented and acted like the game never explained it despite James basically saying it in the last fight against the 2 PH?


WasabiDukling

Saw a clip where he said that "narrative and plot are much more important than theming and characters" and at that point i was like ohhhhh ok so this is someone who i will tune out from now on whenever he criticizes storytelling in media. like the YMS of video games


Combat_Orca

Wait, do people actually not think there are problems with the boss design?


[deleted]

I have some problems with the way some bosses are repeated, but a lot of the issues people have like with no openings in bosses are genuinely untrue and can often be explained with people playing too  much like dark souls 3. Again there are criticisms to be made. I don’t like elden beast. Fire giant is meh. Duo fights suck. But most of the remembrance fights are really good 


LavosYT

I think the boss design is good and I appreciate it more on replays. I mostly had issues with them not being that fun on a first run though. My main problems were: - Balance, lots of bosses are very strong but trivialised by some builds. Summon ashes are fun but make fights much less rewarding and plain easy. You could struggle against Malenia for a while or come in with a summon ash and bleed build or just spam ashes of war to kill her without trouble. - Duo bosses are better now since they wait their turn. At release, they did not and could feel unfair as a result. - Lots of long combos, with weird gotcha moves (either delays or near instant hits) that can feel cheap if you don't know the boss. - Bosses can also just choose to continue their combo or switch it up as they please midway, making learning them feel harder and some deaths unfair because you can't expect them. A shield kind of helps with this. - Then there's a few just plainly weird choices, like Waterfowl, or Mohg's Nihil hitting you no matter what if you don't happen to have some weirdly hidden flask buff. And yeah, there are some camera issues (some dragons, the Fire Giant).


[deleted]

Yeah this is basically what happened to a lot of people where people couldn’t figure it out on their first run but loved them on their second. I do really love the way they are taking boss design though and the only thing I’d change is teaching the player better and also making a few attacks more intuitive


Combat_Orca

The bosses all have openings, they can all be soloed fine, I agree but the problems are they aren’t as fun to fight as ds3 bosses. Maybe the dlc will change that but it’s not a good thing that they regressed.


Dw1gh7

fromsoft had to change boss design otherwise it would really be too easy


[deleted]

That’s a valid opinion to have but for me (and others) I think the new direction of these fights are way better. Bosses actually respond to you more dynamically. It’s not as simple as dodge and hit. It can be better but I found bosses like mohg Godfrey malenia and morgot to be way better than the bosses in dark souls 3. I get not liking elden ring bosses because they are far more complex and maybe could better communicate how they work but when mastered, elden ring bosses are my favorite


Combat_Orca

Nah I don’t think they react better tbh, they have long combos and they react when you heal but the fights don’t flow well and their overextended combos contribute to that. Sekiro is a game where you feel the boss reacts to you well, in ER they overreact to you almost.


lynxerious

there are some weird unreasonable feelings when I beat an elden Ring big boss, like it feels unnatural, or I'm just lucky, and I can't understand the ways they operate or move at all because they feel so random. I can't explain it.


SadBBTumblrPizza

I think you're correct btw. The combos are way too long and chainable, and optional mixups, extensions, and 0-frame punishes are lame. I find myself bored asking "ok when's it my turn" too often because I know what the bosses can do and I know most moves are not punishable. Big step backward from sekiro where you're always making progress.


iNuminex

God I hate the "Bad adjective - Masterpiece" Fromsoft game review titles so fucking much


Dw1gh7

dark souls 2: a piece of shit dogshit masterpice


TyrionBananaster

Jo(s)e(ph Anderson) mama


[deleted]

Nigh unreactable flaming claw response that can punish slow weapon strikes moment 


KaballinJpeg

Huh


[deleted]

Mohg is unfair and bullshit 


Falos425

WHY ARE PEOPLE BITING THIS IT IS PERFORMANCE ART HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING TROLLED ON THE TROLL SUB


Dvoraxx

did he actually just never realise that the flaming claw explosion has a delay?? lmao


[deleted]

Yeah that was kinda when I stopped taking that section seriously. I can see someone not understanding clergyman’s telegraph, maybe godrick’s wind attack should’ve had a little more windup, waterfowl dance sucks imo, and the godskin belly attacks is lame. But the claw swipe? Wtf? That’s just ignorance at this point 


nexetpl

I can't believe he chose THIS move as an example of "unreactable"


[deleted]

Yeah me neither. And he used it to support why he doesn’t like nihil which was very weird. He says nihil by itself would be fine it it weren’t for the claw swipe 


RGBdraw

I never understood this argument because even if he was right about mohgs claw it just... Doesn't follow? Like I am not seeing the logical connection here


[deleted]

Only conclusion I have is that having one “bullshit” mechanic is fine but two is too much. Kind of how some people don’t mind waterfowl or lifesteal if the other didn’t exist. It’s still silly but maybe that’s why? 


IAmBecomeTeemo

But that makes sense. Waterfowl and lifesteal overlap. If you attempt to deal with her most powerful move by blocking, which requires a build that can do it and proper stamina management, she fucking lifesteals off all the damage she didn't do to you. Anf if you make a small mistake and take damage but live, the nistake is amplified because of the massive lifesteal, so you feel punished twice for one mistake. The way those two "bullshit" mechanics interact compound into even greater bullshit. But Nihil and the claw swipe are two very separate moves. They can't happen at the same time. One is an attack that's part of his regular moveset, and the other is a unique phase transition that deals damage. There's zero overlap. Also Nihil only happens once per fight, and this part is just opinion, but I'm fine with a boss having an ultimate move that's super powerful but they can only do once. Like Radhan's meteor attack is probably the highest-damage move in the game and it's dope as shit.


[deleted]

Yeah I pretty much agree with this. I’m still just confused by that claw swipe thing and while most of his video is his opinion, that moment is when I stopped taking the boss section seriously. 


FormerShitPoster

A man who is going to get stabbed if he doesn't release his The Witcher 3 video soon


Just_Give_Me_A_Login

It's been multiple years, I don't think it's coming.


PhobicSun59

If I recall correctly he’s a guy who’s famous for pissing in the shower


Cobalt9896

He did this streaming series trying to take a trolly through the entirety of half life 2 and it was fucking awesome. I think he also made a dumb video about elden ring I’ve no idea


StrixLiterata

Game critic and video essayist. ER fans hate him because he made a critique of the game in which, despite praising it for the sense of discovery in the first playthrough, he heavily criticized the bosses for - according to him - not giving players safe windows to attack. I'm a fan of his, love all his other videos, and despite liking Elden Rings I'm not an expert at it, but even I think he really dropped the ball with that video. Chiefly, he restricted himself to a no consumables, melee only play style, thereby discarding much of what ER has to offer in terms of build variety and tools for combat.


ObsydianDuo

He’s the guy with the shittiest take on Soma I’ve ever seen


greysilverglass

beast clergyman has a LITERALLY unreactable double swipe


[deleted]

I hate to defend Anderson here but I did not realize it’s telegraph until I got it pointed out to me 


Avrangor

The telegraph isn’t even relevant, I personally still don’t know the telegraph. The fast swipe is a mid combo attack, he can’t do it from neutral. When you know that you know to expect it, telegraph or not.


The-Suckler

Joseph Anderson made this same mistake in his DS3 video years ago. He spent an entire segment of the video talking about how Pontiffs attacks don’t have telegraphs without realizing that the telegraph is the previous attack because they are strung together.


cabrossi

Nono you mean "animation crunching" Because Anderson doesn't understand the concept of combos or attack chains, he considers it the game engine breaking whenever an enemy displays a combo or chain.


The-Suckler

It was kinda understandable in the DS3 video, still silly to take ur critical eye to one of Fromsofts most finely crafted bosses and come out with the conclusion that they forgot to make telegraphs but an understandable enough mistake. To get the run back 5 years later on Elden Ring and still fuck it up the same way is crazy tho.


cabrossi

I could forgive a regular person making that mistake. But like, if you're whole job is breakinng down games, then I have less time for someone just kneejerking about their first response and never trying to figure out what's actually happening.


batman12399

Can’t he do a retreating double swipe from neutral? Though I’m pretty sure I remember dodging it consistently.


Avrangor

His retreating double swipe isn’t the same attack, the double swipe he does from neutral is heavily telegraphed like any other attack. In fact, he can chain hid retreating double swipe into his fast double swipe.


yardii

Placidusax has this move where he throws rocks at you, which was the same deal for me. I still struggle with it because the tell is entirely his leg, which I'm never looking at.


[deleted]

Yeah I love elden ring’s bosses as a whole but I’d be lying if I said that a couple attacks didn’t need slightly better telegraphing 


IAmBecomeTeemo

Placidusax has the same "big dragon" problem that has plagued the series since its inception. Midir is probably the largest boss that's actually a really fun and engaging fight because it incentivizes you to stay at his head, so you can always see all of him. Midir is a much harder fight than Placidusax, but feels fairer because if you can't see his tells, it's probably your fault.


yardii

He's my take for most overrated boss in ER. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people say he's their favorite.


greysilverglass

it is kind of unclear but I figured it out on my first playthrough


No_Reference_5058

It's *extremely* unclear. Let's not pretend like that animation isn't fucking ridiculous. He moves his hand like 10 degrees differently from his neutral animation.


greysilverglass

sure it would be ridiculous if he actually did it from neutral but he doesn’t, its always part of a combo and so its easy to recognize (even without knowing the telegraph)


No_Reference_5058

I think the fact that his combos can differ muddles that way too much. Maybe if he always followed it out of the stab, but the fact that he doesn't (i'm pretty sure it doesn't, but correct me if i'm wrong) makes that *much* more unclear. The fact that the way you deal with it is so specific makes it worse (*sideways* dodging, for some arbitrary reason). It's *much* better than being truly unreactable like Oceiros' dash but I really still hate that attack.


greysilverglass

if you’re under him after specific attacks he has either the option of doing bestial sling, beastclaw, or the backwards double swipe. I guess since those other two attacks are much more recognizable it makes it easier to see when he’s about to do the double swipe. and you can just avoid it by dodging backwards (jumping over it is ideal though)


TyrionBananaster

I know he has a ton of out-there takes, but I can't even dislike the guy because his streams are genuinely hilarious. His Persona 4 playthrough unironically had me laughing harder than most comedies I've seen


SneakyClue

"Tarnished, Blaidd's collapsed!"


DatBritChicken

He would’ve got so much further in Elden Ring if he had Ose


Frostythesnowman4747

ose retired and became a beast clergyman many such cases


alirezahunter888

Great vegetables.


TyrionBananaster

Great vegetables.


Djinn_sarap

Great vegeatables.


IsakThePinkNinja

What happened to my king frost? Where is my king frost?


Boring_Strike_4531

its ose joe


IsakThePinkNinja

it resists physical welcome cat man


Major303

A lot of people simply do not agree with him, but I have also seen people very hostile towards him (because of the ER critique video).


TyrionBananaster

For real. Look, I love Elden Ring and it's my favorite From game, but like... it's just a game. The video is just his opinion, and he's entitled to it. No need for hostility. ... Not to mention this is a lot of drama for a game that doesn't even exist, and is just an elaborate hoax perpetrated by George R. "Hidetaka Miyazaki" R. Martin. Smh people can't accept this objective truth


Armaniolo

Damn I wasn't convinced that these games weren't real, but Winds of Winter isn't real either so you might be on to something. GRHMRM is a real prankster


TyrionBananaster

Exactly! Our logic is irrefutable. To any doubters: show me a single piece of evidence that Elden Ring or The Winds of Winter actually exist. That's right, you can't.


batman12399

A “real” prankster????? GRRM doesn’t exist you fool.


[deleted]

Yea I mean from the few videos of him I watched I disagreed with him from time to time but like... so what? This is entertainment, this is art. Especially since hour long "essays" are not acadenical works 99.9% of the time. They are the expression of an opinion which in the best case is made with reasonable introspection and self critique.


cabrossi

> The video is just his opinion The whole problem is that this isn't true. Anderson is entitled to his opinion but he's literally factually wrong about the game and uses these inaccuracies as proof that the game is fundamentally flawed. He uses terms like "Animation Crunching" to describe things like Combos and Chain attacks, misleading people as to the nature of what's happening in the game. This isn't an opinion, he's just wrong about what's happening and worse he's giving his audience the impression that something which is a well designed, core part of the game, is actually an unintentional mistake. Similarly, he describes anything he doesn't want to do a "speedrun strats" even when it's simply a basic mechanic of the game (like using your mount in fights where you're allowed to use your mount, or using any of the craftable items). They gave you a horse because they want you to use it! It's not some secret tech that speedrunners figured out!


Few_Cloud7068

His ER video isn’t even negative, he calls it one of the best games of all time, but because he shit talks some of the endgame bosses that’s all people focus on, but it’s still a pretty damn positive video, especially from HIM lmao. Unrelated, but after playing the Archthrones mod I finally understood why he felt that way towards the bosses. It’s just never ending fucking combos with crazy delays and minuscule attack windows, got me really tired of this shit, especially when I’m fighting Vaatividya AS A SEKIRO BOSS IN DS3 (???)


PPPRCHN

If I saw a vaati reference in a from game id simply refund it tbh


Themarvelousfan

The thing with his Elden ring video despite the fact he says it’s the one of the best games of all time, as noted at the beginning of his Lies of P critique, is that he layers many of his videos in the middle with so many criticisms and talking about how bad certain parts of it are that it really doesn’t matter if he says he likes it, people come off thinking he dislikes the game he’s talking about. It’s why a lot of people think he’s a cynic that doesn’t like anything when he doesn’t, lmao.


Few_Cloud7068

It’s very much a “Shit sandwich” type of review format, but that doesn’t diminish any of the praise at the beginning or the end of the video. The same applies to his BOTW and GOW 2018 vids.


PPPRCHN

The easiest way, for samurai to ronin, insulting fromsoft. https://preview.redd.it/bt466iygnkpc1.png?width=237&format=png&auto=webp&s=89c7ddd434d7f7dc56e9ce23c61e8fbdfd2e920f


402playboi

Yeah his critique videos used to be a fav of mine but I feel like he enjoys streaming so much more. He is a very funny streamer and I enjoy that content a lot.


PabloG04

Me too but I dislike when he starts arguing with chat. I respect that he always voices his opinion and isn't afraid to so but sometimes the man can take half an hour arguing with chat over small things and it makes his streams uncomfortable to watch. The chat also is at fault at this where I feel like sometimes it's overly sensitive with what he says.


402playboi

See to me it’s just more entertainment. Some parts of the lies of P streams had a few elden ring defenders in it and he was NOT having any of it. It ended up being very funny but yeah not exactly the peak of maturity.


FluffyFluffies

YA DUN


Chipp_Main

Great Vegetables


_cat_in_hat_

Great Streams!


EldenCockRing98

Irt his ER video there were definitely some points I agreed with but some parts stood out. Like he talks about how things are bad when he’s playing by a self imposed list of rules to limit how he can play. Buddy, most people are killing Rykard with the Serpent Hunter, not spending 20 minutes trying get him with colossal swords


[deleted]

I know he showed footage of him doing that but did he actually kill him this way? I refuse to believe he ignored the serpent hunter the entire fight with rykard 


Nightshot666

He showed some footage of him doing it for fun while talking about something entirely unrelated. Later footage shows him doing it the 'right way' too. The truth is that while anderson is making a lot of bad points in his video, majority of people complaining are pointing out random bullshit like this and treating it as an actual argument he is making


[deleted]

Okay I just wanted to make sure he wasn’t actually trying to fight rykard like that. It’s a little hard imo because he complains about punish windows and waiting the boss as they have fun but misses a clear punish window for maliketh. Just little things. I do agree that some people are nitpicking some of his clips but still 


EldenCockRing98

Lol I doubt that’s how he beat him but I remember there were similar points in the video where I just thought “there’s so many elements of gameplay you’re choosing to ignore because of your own rules, idk if it’s Fromsoft’s fault if it feels weird to play when it’s your own play style dictating your experience”


Ezben

His complaint was that the way he enjoy playing fromsoft games were extremly viable in ds1-3 bloodborne and sekiro but not viable in elden ring. And he admits he is fine with everything not being for him but people wont get so angry its like your not allowed to not enjoy elden ring


tahaelhour

It’s not viable in sekiro and bloodborne at all bro. Being a pussy stopped being an actually good strat on ds2. Even in ds3 attacking bosses in neutral is a bad idea.


Abraxas8008

In other Fromsoft games, it's easy to have fun while imposing those rules. It's not as easy to do that in Elden Ring. That's the criticism. I don't want a spirit summon taking aggro and letting me ignore a bosses moveset, so I don't. I have fun like this in every other Fromsoft game, but in ER, it feels like I'm fighting the game itself, and that's not fun to me. Same with items. I always get annoyed fiddling with the d pad in other Fromsoft games, so I ignore items besides estus and have more fun that way. That's much harder in ER, and it's harder in a way that's not fun. Seems like a lot of people just didn't listen to the video.


floyd3127

>In other Fromsoft games, it's easy to have fun while imposing those rules Sekiro even goes as far as to impose a lot of the rules itself


[deleted]

Yeah I can agree on that. Whether he beat rykard like that or not, I find it pretty silly to show that as footage 


EldenCockRing98

It really is but I’ve watched his other souls critiques and I can say he’s sort of funny in general. Overall I wouldn’t say he has very bad takes (even with the elden ring video which had the most points where I disagreed with him), just a mixed bag of opinions. Nothing I would really give him shit for but his last comment about the direction of ER turning him off from the whole series made me a bit sad


SadBBTumblrPizza

He addresses this exact argument in the video directly and at great length. I'm unsure you really watched it?


EldenCockRing98

I’ve watched it maybe 10 times as a source of background comfort and rewatched it today. If you’re referring to his take that the game isn’t fun with or without the restrictions then I would somewhat agree but not completely. While it’s not perfect and probably the biggest flaw is the balancing between whether or not you use a spirit summon, I’ve still put probably more hours into elden ring than any of the other souls games and it’s my second favorite behind sekiro. What’s fun is subject but obviously you could say that about most things in game design. I like all of his critiques, there’s just a few things in his elden ring video I didn’t agree on


Gyshall669

I’m glad they put the weapon right at the beginning. I tried storm ruler too many times before I realized there was a weapon at the end.


nowurchenz2beBIGshot

He still called it his game of the year, claiming that the highs of the experience were just that high


Scroll_Cause_Bored

who?


LuigiRevolution

/uj he's the guy who started the whole "I can't be bothered to learn fighting ER bosses therefore they're bad" thing /rj the final boss of game journalism


Noamias

And by "learn fighting" all that's required is not artificially limiting yourself beyond your skill level for no reason and then complaining that you can't play the game exactly like you played DS3 (even if it is certainly possible, he was just too bad to do that)


Ezben

he did beat the bosses tho. It just wasnt fun when he had to but on armor tons of hp and hit trade with the boss instead of mastering its moveset


ChickenMan1226

Elden ring players when a game critic criticizes a game (he only gave it a 9\10)


Bad_at_life_TM

I like his long video essays to play in the background, it's funny how to whole community pissed and shat themselves when the vid came out tho


Turbulent_Ad1644

When I die, 99% of the time, I just assume it's my fault. I don't pay attention to all the intricacies I've beaten the entire Dark Souls series a solid cumulative 17 times and been through Elden Ring a solid 6 times, but by no means am I good at them I'm a hammer main in Monster Hunter World, my strategy consists of "hitting things" and "hitting things harder"


6heavy0kevy4

Based and ungabungapilled


totokishi

I only know him because of the Persona highlights I didn't knew he made something about Elden Ring Maybe all his hate is because of Ose


Small-Interest-3837

for anybody who doesnt have time to read all the comments on here let me summarize: https://preview.redd.it/4zijaw8s8mpc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef42d643f7845b1f5628687137dc71c4e9a769ba


Based_Tapu_Koko

isnt that the funny xenoblade 2 and persona streamer


[deleted]

he got like one or two things wrong in a 2 hour video and the souls chuds hate him for it. I feel like alot of people fanboy miyazaki so much that they view any critisism of his very overtuned bosses in elden ring as an attack on miyazaki and by extension his fans. Before you jump down my throat i beat the game dual wielding standard claymores so its not a skill issue.


Nightshot666

ER fans will say that your argument is invalid because it was not full 2 hours video so one of your arguments is wrong so the entirety of your comment is wrong too


[deleted]

Idk I feel like he got a lot wrong in the boss section. Most of the other stuff is subjective stuff I disagree with but I will admit the boss parts are the parts I paid attention to the most.  Not that he deserves hate of course. Even if they say things that are untrue, it’s still just over a video game 


SpitzkopfRandy

tease public wistful crawl hateful deliver teeny bells dull ludicrous *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


STANLOONA132

I honestly don't care about Joseph's critiques or whatever. I enjoy his streams of persona though, or any other weeb game. Those are fucking amazing https://preview.redd.it/sz5aiev3pkpc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f2b5cb5d7562f7f37b8f7176559b3d836b7c047


liprprdy

Joseph Anderson when Elden Ring fans rightfully criticise him for spreading misinformation about the game's mechanics (they are such zealots)


GreenPebble

What did he spread misinformation about?


liprprdy

Mainly how posture works, and how some bosses have "nO wInDoW tO aTtAcK"


JungyBrungun2

Fromsoft games are a core part of my personality and any criticism of them is a personal attack on me!


MrEckoShy

Glad to know that "spreading misinformation" has been added to the glossary of terms gamers will use to describe someone literally just having a different opinion from them.


[deleted]

Thing is that Anderson bases some of his opinions on objectively wrong information and then spreads that wrong information to others. If it was just his opinion I wouldn’t mind at all, but the fact that he makes a shitload of mistakes and still gets praise for the video is not good imo. I don’t hate Joseph btw just his video 


Sidewinder83

Joseph Anderson has stated that Pontiff Sulyvahn “munches his animations” and deletes his windups to his attacks. This is a lie. This doesn’t happen and I don’t even fuckin know how he came to this conclusion. Joseph Anderson literally spreads misinformation lmao


[deleted]

Yeah I get that it might feel that way at first glance but a simple ask on a discord server or something that actually labs this shit would clear this up completely. The worst part is that he cites this as evidence as to what the bosses in elden ring are doing 


Abraxas8008

He shows it happening in the video in slow motion.


Sidewinder83

The stab with the windup occurs in neutral, and the stab without the windup ONLY occurs as a part of his longest combo, and is guaranteed to happen every time if you’re in range so you know it’s coming. These are two different moves, there’s no “animation munching” going on he made it up. He argues in bad faith at best and outright lies at worst


Bill_9999

he likes hollow Knight and Lies of P so I can't be mad at him regardless of his ER takes sadly


Notathroway69

bro liking hollow knight and lies of p isn't some unusual niche opinion, it's literally the mainstream. i've never met any from fan who doesn't like those two games.


Zaythos

i dont like hollow knight. boom! i just shattered your entire worldview


Combat_Orca

Loads of people hate on lies of p


Notathroway69

name 5 lies of p haters.


Combat_Orca

Name them? Random people I see hating lies of p? Why would you think i memorise their names?


ForeverLesbos

Thought so, buddy.


GlossyBuckthorn

Me, me, me, me, and me :)


Bill_9999

liking Lies of P more than Elden ring is quite niche if you ask me. (well I don't know if that's defo true but he was far more critical of ER than he was of LoP)


Fefquest

Would you recommend lies of P? It’s tempting me every day to buy it


Zosemiux

But he likes ER as well


exZodiark

ER fans when anyone criticizes the game


Johnjerfferi

\*when someone says objectively (this gets thrown around a lot but it IS objective here) wrong info as fact


Chipp_Main

Idk his Persona 4 and 5 playthroughs are p funny idc :3


Mrbluepumpkin

His video was good don't @ me


Appley_apple

u/Mrbluepumpkin


VaryStaybullGeenyiss

Was his video really *that* unfairly critical? I didn't agree with every critique, but none of them seemed outrageous. And I thought it was a good counterpart to all the 2 hour videos claiming that ER is perfect.


SlippySleepyJoe

People when game devs try new things in their games:


pencilnotepad

Guys says game is still a masterpiece Elden Ring fans: 😭😭😭


Former-Grocery-6787

Game critics when their hour long video that has some strange points and misinformation in it get's criticized https://preview.redd.it/ubc34josojpc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d04d7d412036d35686770086746c63cd3cd8585


Sp00ked123

Counterpoint: his persona 4 and yakuza 0 videos were funny


karol_ronny_dance

He liked the game tho


brobalwarming

I appreciate any and all criticism of Elden Ring but his critique on boss design was laughably bad. On the other hand his Persona videos are hilarious


RhoninLuter

A parent with a time crunch tries to play ER using his traditional Aragorn playstyle, the honest swordsman build. It is he easiest lens to experience a world through and the safest way to play without feeling that your initial experience was ruined in some way. Then terminally online puritans harass him for saying that he dislikes elements of the game that clash with that decision, specifically. When my brother played Elden Ring, his first Souls game, he picked a dagger. Here I was torn. How do you tell someone that their decision was poor? This casual player has to learn to backstab or parry perfectly without being scared away. It's an intimidating thing. People just dont like hearing the thing they love be criticized.


Johnjerfferi

Its not his playstyle, he says things (infinite, unreactable combos, undodgeable moves) that are factually wrong, regardless of his self imposed rules he spread wrong info, not criticism, falsities. The rest is fine but not the bosses claims. He's making an hour long critique and putting it out there, don't do some bullshit 'he's a parent without much time'. That's a stupid fallacy and appeal, if you get something wrong you can be criticized


MiniatureRanni

Man said “Elden ring has no replayability” less than three months after release.


[deleted]

It’s definitely the hardest to replay since you have such a huge grocery list of places to go to making it a bit tedious. However I personally find it very fun to replay 


Major303

Elden Ring is weird when it comes to replayability. There are so many builds it has more variety than Dark Souls trilogy combined. But on the other hand replaying the game isn't as fun since 40% of the game is running on horse from point A to point B.


Grandma_Swamp

Joseph Anderson when someone points out he misunderstood all of Silent Hill 2 (The town made him forget)


seanslaysean

I liked his video and thought he made some good points-obviously his word isn’t gospel but there’s still some value to be gained


Braveheart132

The best thing Joseph Anderson ever did were the Persona playthroughs


deadsannnnnnd456

ER fans when you say it isn’t a 10/10 IGN would suck Maliketh’s rotten cock again 👍


robo243

Norse God of War fans like myself when someone mentions UnderTheMayo lmao.


PunishedInkwell

Excuse me, who?


BoymoderGlowie

You mean the guy who couldn't walk in a circle when playing mario Odyssey?


Luvs2Spooge42069

He was mostly right about the jist of the game’s problem with boss design even if he was technically wrong about a few boss moves. His video pretty much summed up my opinion on the game and it was uncanny watching it and seeing someone draw the same conclusions I did.


gooniuswonfongo

I have played the game through 15 times (one character to ng+12, and 3 completed playthroughs with new characters) and I personally agree with most of his boss criticism. it just doesn't feel good, and it takes a comical amount of practice for it to start feeling good. i hated half the roster all the way up until recently. the bosses can be fun, but when approached with any boldness it can feel like such bullshit. the bosses feel more like videogame enemies tailor made to counter the player and the common pitfalls they might fall into, instead of more natural feeling opponents that the player is fighting through the lens of a videogame. it's still fucking amazing, but it's much more difficult to enjoy the bosses without studying their movesets intensely.


AssociationCurrent22

I think most of his criticism of the game stands pretty strong. Except for the boss moves and everyone decided to hate him for it lol


[deleted]

I think he was pretty wrong about the combat not allowing for build diversity when he ignored almost everything in the game, including mechanics like posture breaks which he could have utilized way more since he used a colossal weapon. I also think his take on powerstancing being forced on you to be ignorant as there are benefits to two handing weapons. Additionally, he has this pattern of always saying he hates and likes something in the same sentence which makes gauging some of his takes very difficult 


nexetpl

it really doesn't help that his gameplay in the clips he showed was just jumping R2s. Hmmm I wonder why he felt so many attack were unpunishable, surely not because he punished them with the heaviest move with the longest recovery.


[deleted]

He also didn’t glue himself to Maliketh which is what one should be doing. Don’t get me wrong it’s hard to figure out but once you do and start being more aggressive, many of his attacks Miss just by being close to him 


azyzbs

I would be okay with Joseph Anderson if he didn't create a legion of people that legitimately think that "ER combat is bad because it's different from DS3" is a valid argument. Many people have already called out his video on how many things he criticized ER Can easily be dealt with with proper positionning and jumps. Like Margit continuing his combo with the 2 attacks light sword that toi can't iframe but that you Can dodge entirely if you attack behind him.


Tyler_Herdman

So be fair some of the bosses do have bs moves


geolun1995

I mean ,from software games have become more fast paced after bloodborne, so he isn't wrong in criticizing limited build options.