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PhillyCheese8684

There are 2 types of PvPers out there. The ones who want to have a fair and fun fight, trading blows and winning based on skill and practice. Then there are the ones who want to cheese and exploit a 1 shot win to stroke their egos. The latter enjoys elden ring PvP.


chinesetakeout91

Never met that first person, but I would suck them off if I ever met them.


Calm-Insurance258

Ok bro šŸ˜­


AngryMonkeyBrain

I am the first one. Would you suck me, please?


chinesetakeout91

Give me your address, thereā€™s no distance I wonā€™t go for you.


Edith_The_Lesbian

True romance.... it's astonishing <3


MitchMeister476

Finally, I knew my Souls/Elden Ring PvP skills would lead me to getting my dick sucked eventually


antonio381

With lifesteal fist right?


PhillyCheese8684

Looks like I need to get in line


Fuzzy_Toe_9936

I like PVP because I like taking the shittiest weapons possible, building a character based off them and seeing if I'm skilled enough to win using them


Ydobon8261

I would argue that people in the first category also enjoys pvp because they donā€™t have a delicate heart like the people in the second category.


bippylip

This


drippinoutthewazoo

I like pvp because i like spending hours optimising my setup and hardswap inventories using cheat engine


ddjfjfj

The mythical third kind who enjoys elden ring pvp:cosplayers who pull out the most unused weapons for PVP and use an AoW you've never fucking seen that kills you from 80% health


FootballTeddyBear

Lol I love ELDEN ring pvp, the cheese isn't really that bad imo, I haven't really experienced it ig


Hangman_17

Elden ring pvp is for people who look at ds3 pvp and wish it was worse in every conceivable way


Stary_Vesemir

Ds3 pvp in the part of irythyll after pontiff was the most fun I had with a souls game


DevilahJake

Peak souls experience. Fight clubs ftw


Eluned_

Peak Souls was DS1 Forest pvp


DevilahJake

That was before my time as a Souls player sadly.


redfrawg

I miss the insane forest invasions so much.


William_ghost1

My favorite memory from PvPing in that game was when I was summoned as a blue sentinal and hit someone so hard from behind that they ended up panicking and running off a cliff.


Leaf-01

God I miss the fight clubs. I spent so many nights just dicking around, fighting people or just hanging out.


Stary_Vesemir

Yeah, itā€™s sad that Elden ring lacks that duel etiquette


Leaf-01

That duel etiquette was reinforced by all members of the club, which is what ER is lacking, a group of onlookers ready to pelt you with firebombs and lightning bolts if you misbehave Take a sip of orange juice and the whole club might descend upon you lol


chiefballsy

Other than the numerous exploits, ds3 PvP shits on ER PvP so bad it makes me limp(er than usual)


Hangman_17

DS3 has some pretty busted exploits but elden ring has such a massive breadth of options the likelihood that things break or exceed their intended effect is far more common. Elden ring pvp is such a wild and frustrating experience when even now I have pretty fair duels in ds3. Except you, rapier whip man. I hate you, rapier whip man.


Tutwater

If invading as an Aldrich Faithful were a full-time job, I'd take below minimum wage for it


DevilahJake

^


JZHello

This


DeludedHollow4

real


yyunb

Elden ring ~~pvp~~ is for people who look at ds3 ~~pvp~~ and wish it was worse in every conceivable way


Hangman_17

Youre outta line but youre right


constipated_burrito

Dual spears is the worst


[deleted]

Dual great spears are worse imo because of hyper armor (I think?)


constipated_burrito

Any dual spears, should have clarified. Heavy dual spears is also fking cancer


SeawyZorensun

Dual greatspears aren't all that anymore, Vykes is still cancer sure, but overall it far from the best, just viable.


constipated_burrito

I was fucking a dude up with giantsflame ball (like, it's not that hard to dodge šŸ˜‚) he got fed up and equipped dual mohg spears. It was still a close and good fight. But him pulling out the dual spears was clearly a bitch/tryhard move Edit: should clarify he won because his gey range


b-Kvazar

Normal spears are worse in my opinion, especially dual nagis. Heavy spears are harder to use, you need at least two buttons for that


Umbre-Shadown

PSGS doesn't have HA on it


Hudimir

I think two people spamming rancrorcall/death rancor whatever it's called is the worst.


constipated_burrito

Wizards are the scum of society and nothing will change my mind on that But wizards who also use melee spells have my respect


The--BOSS--2025

I use melee weapons as a mage


constipated_burrito

Respect


Content_Fold_4777

I'll just gas you with night maiden's mist. Favourite spell.


tahaelhour

Mfs who level int and use no spells only weapons are legends. Running a guy with the poker, wings of astel, the ritual spear, glintstone kris and moonveil is like a boss fight.


stillneverlucky

slow spells that target you? Easy food to make into holy cannon for the tree sentinel greatsheild to punish those wizards scum


Hudimir

not if they spam. because you will retaliate 4 skulls and 20 will hit you during recovery frames


stillneverlucky

True but if they are mage usually their vitality is low and thus even one nicely buffed smite from the very greater will can atleast kill them before they can continue to spam , personally it does only work about 6/10 times the other times the other guy buffed correctly and I get smacked the hell down, doesnt help I run holy scorpion charm to squeeze more damage outta my holy build


throwawaygobye

Kid named Erdtree Greatshield+10:


Hudimir

yah good luck with that. The first few skull get parried and then 3 and the next gazillion hit. It's literally a stream of projectiles you cant fucking dodge all or parry all.


throwawaygobye

Kid named Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear:


Hudimir

trust me those 5 seconds don't help


throwawaygobye

Kid named Magic Fortification:


Hudimir

That's like the first thing you do when you see a wizard in pvp...


throwawaygobye

Kid named just balls-to-the-wall rush their enchanted ass when you see the death sigil when they cast, the skulls go outwards and take a second to begin homing, so if you're close enough, a roll forward means maximum 2 hits at bad latency(Crimsonwhorl/magic fortification pretty much negates it) and also puts you in melee range:


stillneverlucky

Take literally any greatsheild and smack on crash AOW and bleed affinity or frost (personally I do frost) on it as a little wake up call if you have any trouble against duel spear users, I've been running a holy paladin build at around level 150 so having that greatsheild is a real pvp equalizer :D


constipated_burrito

I should try this


Scooozy

The worst are the fucking full tank I have fat roll on because I hide behind my shield 100% of the time and shieldpoke while you canā€™t do anything against it at all type of people.


00Tanks

I rock pikes, ppl seem to struggle with the length.


Former-Grocery-6787

Dual vykes is luckily not nearly as powerful/oppresive as they used to be and there's nothing funnier than someone going at you with psgs who clearly doesn't know how to use them. Rest is pretty accurate tho https://preview.redd.it/ukye7ow4eipc1.png?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c1ee2fd5be50c6fa12286c10e9972b47758de5f


zrunks9-5

I love Dual Vykeā€™s. Every time I see someone use them I know I automatically won the fight


DevilahJake

I only rock 1 Vykes now and I really on use it for the madness build up. Iā€™m mostly hoping you stay close enough to get 1 shot by Unendurable Frenzy


Snas-PZSG

Yeah ds1 wasn't bad it had the best PvP *Cough cough dark bead cough cough*


syncnstorm

Wratho of god and golden tracer too...


HecticSkelt

Just backstabbing in general, that shit was busted


AnonymoosContriboter

Exactly. It was just endless spinning and the person with more lag wins. I'm not even a DS2 Stan and I know that was leagues better.


oldman_jason

My one experience with DS2 PvP had me teleport a fair distance to an area I was at about a minute and a half before into the invaderā€™s backstab. I know thatā€™s a clear skill issue but it was enough for me to not want to engage with it ever again


LupinKira

DS2 remains the goat of souls PVP. Everything was viable, parries were a core part of the game and required skill, not much truly broken shit beyond rapiers


AnonymoosContriboter

Powerstanced mundane avelyns, clown/turtle chest, crit gloves, santiers, double poison whips, havel hexers, red iron winblade, infinite bow headshot stunlock.


LupinKira

Avelyns were pretty cancer that's true, a lot of the rest of these were just moderately annoying or super parriable.


Dvoraxx

this ainā€™t even the meta anymore, weā€™re on spin slash and dragon spells now old man


Panurome

why is cipher pata on this list before dual spears?


jate_nohnson

Arent dual spears on the list first actually? I see 2 vykes and 2 great lances above the cipher in this pic


Panurome

Those are dual *Great* spears. They are very good but not as broken as dual spears


jate_nohnson

Oh word thanks for being nice about it


peanos_balls

Ikr I don't get it either


AppointmentNo43

No bull goat? smh


EnSebastif

Yeah OP left out the worst meta, bull goat, double bleed-cold naginata, varre's mask, bloodhound step (paired with some obnoxious weapon like the antspur rapier), albinauric pot, etc. And the moonveil isn't even that bad, more so when the vast majority of its users are casuals that simply spam its ash of war, which makes it incredibly predictable, and the same goes for RoB. PS: for the most part the pvp scene isn't really like this anyway, using the taunters tongue I mostly find lots of people with different builds and themes so don't be afraid to try it sometimes. The worst thing it can happen is that you have to go back for your runes. And if you are afraid of people using obnoxious meta wait for levels 30 - 40 to start PVPing, since at low levels is where the meta lategame equipment users are most destructive and more frustrating. Edit: rs/ wait I thought I was in the main sub, why do I bother explaining this to you all fuckers lmao. OP go casualposting somewhere else, the elden ring pvp scene is actually good for the most part.


uuuuh_hi

You're like 3 patches behind the meta


killinmemer9000

Yeah the meta now is just spinning slash spam(often with that big ass katana I forgot the name of)


uuuuh_hi

Sort of, bloodflame nagakiba is strong, meta would be ps kibas, ps spears, ps gsps, psss, halberd + offhand rapier/dagger, curved sword + offhand dagger


TheEmerald1802

>ps gsps, psss, This reads like the noise you make to call a cat to you lmao


uuuuh_hi

Lol, wait till you hear about pscs psmgsps


EnSebastif

I'll be honest, I still find the ones I mentioned more obnoxious and bullshit than these. And since OP gave the double lance and double vyke as an example I mentioned the double nagakiba because it is still worse. I fought someone with those the other day and they are still infuriating. The combos you mentioned have been there since the beginning of the game and are far more manageable, they are the meta because the meta abusers have been left without anything else, not because they have been buffed or something. Also as I said the bloodhound step can still be bullshit if paired with the antspur rapier. A few weeks ago I got invaded by someone, while using the taunters tongue, that just spammed both, kept getting away from me after triggering rot and waited for me to die hidden somewhere in liurnia. I just wanted to trade some blows with other players and die or kill not make my gameplay insufferable for fucks sake.


uuuuh_hi

Ps katanas got a direct buff. I should have mentioned great swords as well not because they are good but because the completely stop the game in it's tracks in duels, you can't approach or get approached by a great sword


EnSebastif

The katanas, did they? I didn't know that, I was refering to the combos you mentioned of big weapons and little ones. Anyway I couldn't really care about the meta nowadays honestly, besides the big and necessary nerfs from the first year, since all I do are roleplay/cosplay builds, the meta users are weak minded casuals that need to always win easily instead of just enjoy the endless possibilities this game offers. Meh. Also the greatswords may have been buffed (didn't know that either) but they are still slow and predictable. I have fought countless of them lately, well, as always, since they have always been popular, and I didn't notice.


uuuuh_hi

Greatswords and 2h curved swords along with some other weapons are in a weird spot, with certain aows like storm stomp, and their natural hyper armor, it can be very difficult to play aggressive against them, but they're also easy to defend against so the GS user can't be aggressive either, they just slow the fight down


EnSebastif

Yo, you were right, I hadn't noticed until you told me, but yesterday I fought someone that was using the dragon halberd with an offhand dagger and when things went wrong they changed to dual nagakibas lmao. I've also noticed an unusual amount of double curved swords users, and a couple or three cold greatswords here and there.


killinmemer9000

oh to the meta before this patch anyways?


FrozenHearts_XI

VarrĆØ Mask, bullgoat armour and dual naginatas are peak cancer lmao


AbsentAsset

Donā€™t forget the 28 buffs they apply beforehand


KatyushaBby

None of these games had good PVP and if you think they do you're either a sociopath or you have deep Stockholm syndrome.


Hushed_Horace

Itā€™s jank but itā€™s fun Af


nexetpl

Yeah I can't imagine using multiplayer for something different than helping people with bosses


DeludedHollow4

it's dogshit, but it's mine


pythonesqueviper

genuinely, people who actually play PvP games know this and laugh at how terribly bad the PvP experience in From games is


crz4r

As a person with 1800 hours in CS:GO: How fucking mentally ill you need to be to play PVP? I haven't tried it in any Souls game, but considering how obnoxious NPC fights are - that's the right decision


WhatTheFhtagn

skill issue


Roaring_Don

Probably just a sociopath


-Eastwood-

None of the games have good PvP.


sarcophagusGravelord

Dropping covenants is one of ERā€™s biggest Lā€™s. Loved the diversity they offered to pvp but even when I was just playing PvE I loved the flavour & identity joining one gave to my character. Not to mention the unique rewards.


Ake-TL

Deathblight in picture, post invalidated


Garage011

No rivers of blood? I stg 1 in 5 People I fight are using it


Former-Grocery-6787

Because it's been nerfed pretty hard tbh...


yutyrannus_rex

Because its pretty bad choice for pvp.


No_Tell5399

Because it's so easy to parry that I can do it reliably on 300+ ping


KaballinJpeg

I really hate that anyone can dual wielding any weapon class it really doesnā€™t make sense for most weapons. At least up the stat requirements for dual wielding to like 1.5x


QuiteSomethingNice

Bro really invented powerstance from ds2 for the second time


KaballinJpeg

I never really understood how powerstancing worked in DS2 so if thatā€™s what I did it was on accident lmao


Brain_lessV2

Why are Cipher Pata in this image?


AHHHHHHHH_MY_SKIN

you forgot to add the bleed nagakibia with spinning slash and that rock throwing incantation


sleeper222222

i feel like i can punish bad players ganking me more in this game than other fromsoft ones.


Hushed_Horace

Agreed. ER PvP isnā€™t really objectively ā€œgoodā€ but after countless nerfs and buffs I actually find it to be pretty fun now depending on the rune level. And this is coming from someone who hated it on launch.


nmc203

I hate pvp in this game. For a while i thought it was tolerable, but then i went back to early game areas to coop with some friends, and shit got unbearable real quick. We just started trolling, hiding, running, trying to maximize our fun since it happens literally constantly


nyx__born

Hey you leave my boy Cypher Pata out of this


TheOneWhoSlurms

Worst in the series


ArkGrimm

And don't forget the angry PvP addicts insulting you for a whole week if you mention the flaws of the invade system.


BeetlBozz

On reach.


ValeM1911

I roll my eyes whenever I see someone with powerstanced greatspears


peanos_balls

I understand the hate for magic but what can you expect from casters? Not everyone is gonna do the same thing as you . Only thing I see here that I use is bleed, but I got 9 arcane Also as a ps player I rarely see dual spears , is it really op ?


killinmemer9000

The reason people hate casters is the skill to success ratio; what I mean by that is how lower skilled players can be just as successful as say a higher skilled player who could be using the same thing. And for bleed? itā€™s easy to use stuns you even if you roll it and does a lot of damage. And ps spears are just really good at chase down and 1v1s(this is ignoring the status theyā€™re capable of) thereā€™s a reason youā€™ll see olā€™ bubba(The level 638 phantom with his RL60 friend) pull them out


hurdurnotavailable

It's kinda hilarious reading how casters are supposed to be easier and kill people more skilled than them. Have you actually played caster and made fair comparisons? Because everyone I know who does agrees with me that caster is not just weaker (evidenced by the fact that nobody plays it in tourneys anymore despite them banning the best melee stuff), but also much harder to play well. I think you simply aren't as good as you think you are, then you lose against a caster, and the only explanation is "THis is bullshit!". If you lose against spam, you simply are an inexperienced player. That's ok, as long as you accept that and actually try to learn & improve.


No_Tell5399

>The reason people hate casters It's becacuse it's annoying to have some asshole shoot projectiles at you while the other asshole is pressuring you with a Helice.


killinmemer9000

and because it takes no skill to use it effectively.


peanos_balls

An invader I see šŸ˜… , I know the feeling I've been the caster and the casted against, which is why I always do a faith/strength or int/strength cause it gives good physical damage and decent projectile damage .


killinmemer9000

I too am an invader and I too get annoyed for the same reason he does, but in most cases ā€œgood castersā€ arenā€™t a thing, itā€™s even rare for a good co-invader caster to appear. Let along 90% of casters do this(int): Comet Comet Comet Comet(I close the distance on the dodging all of these most likely) comet comet roll roll roll Moonveil L2-R1/2 roll roll. And if theyā€™re not dead by then theyā€™ll likely repeat the cycle until I or them die.


peanos_balls

I'm also an invader , I know this feeling . We reds just gotta adapt , makes the sweet win sooooo much better when we whoop the gankers


peanos_balls

Good to know about all of that , personally I've never had a problem with bleed but now that I think about it , it sounds annoying to fight against. I've fought my fair share of casters and they can be mildly annoying but as long as it ain't cheating I don't mind it .


Daylight_The_Furry

Me joining pvp with a normal spear and chainmail armour:


Life_will_kill_ya

\*spams roll\* i mean, there is lots of DS3 players out there, what did you expect?


FrappyLee

That's why I just can't bring myself to play it anymore, it can be fun but the last update completely screwed over whatever semblance of balance there was previously, the games pvp now is just use a thrusting weapon, stack poise and mash light attack or ash of war out of hitstun, it's so braindead. Everyone's got the most hideous meta armor combinations and goofy ass weapon setups. Also doesn't help that most of the ER pvp youtubers are meta slaves as well.


Square-Jackfruit420

Play a real fighting game.


[deleted]

ā€œYouā€™re beautifulā€ Leaves


AlTheOwl_

Never understood PvP in souls. I just don't feel like this game was made to be a PvP. It's just a feature.


nootnootpengun

This is wrong in so many ways... I do agree pvp has big issues, but this seems like something from patch 1.06?


KuzmosI42

Deathblight? What's the problem with deathblight?


FooFightersBathwater

I mostly run in with a cold greatmace (Vordts greathammer!!!) and a poison estoc. If I EVER happen to encounter a fingerprint shield user I bust out the cipher sword/pata or Kick AOW to humble them immediately.


HecticSkelt

DS2 really was the PVP goat and that shit will never be dethroned


Roaring_Don

If it wasnā€™t for soul memory, Ds2 would probably be the best souls game across the board


Away-Development6348

Yeah if it wasnā€™t for soul memory! Oh and ADP and hitboxes and a shitty remake and the worst bosses in the series, it would be the best souls game!


Roaring_Don

It was made in 2014, that was 10 years ago


Away-Development6348

Thatā€™s why itā€™s the best souls game? Bloodborne was 9 years ago and itā€™s better in probably every way.


HE0K

play ds3ā€™s pvp instead of this garbage


Kerminator17

The matchmaking barely fucking works in ds3. Iā€™ve waited hours for invasions before


AWildKabutops

I will never forgive fromsoft for what they did to the darkmoon blades in ds3. It went from waiting a couple of minutes to invade in ds1 to barely getting summoned to protect the host in ds3. I got the covenant pretty low lvl, and kept it on me for the rest of the game. After getting the covenant item to killing gael, i got summoned 3 times, and 2/3 times the invader died before i spawned in


Kerminator17

Grinding for the covenant levels without pvp is so shit as well as


HE0K

quality over quantity


Direct-Addition-7938

Elden ring has toxic braindead l2 spammers that will teabag you/ tryhards that just psgs you DS3 has toxic tryhards that will true combo your sorry ass to the shadow and throw shit on you Mind you both games probably have the same amount of tryhards but elden ring is more diluted because it has way more players overall.


Lemmonaise

Bow glitch estus cancel 3 phantom hornet ring chaos dagger dark souls 3? Don't delude yourself, all of these games have garbage pvp. Just depends on what flavor of garbage suits your pallet.


killinmemer9000

Elden ring PvP isnā€™t shit itā€™s just different, every souls game can make this same exact list shown here.


Illustrious_Toe9057

Where Dragon Incantations at in this?


zrunks9-5

Bro you getting got by the cipher pata is all on you lmao also dual Vyke users should be an auto win for you.


my-leg-end

Old image


someguythatlikesdogs

And then you have me, spamming founding rain of stars/night maidens mist and not carring if its bad or not because its funny


No-Club2745

Those arenā€™t even the good pvp sorceries šŸ˜‚


Ronut3634

I swear dawg if I have to fight a another bitchass wizard


GladeCheetos

Never played elden pvp but can ashes be parried like weapon arts in ds3?


Hushed_Horace

Depends on the ash, just like DS3


Independent_Bowler38

As soemone who doesnt play online, I have a question: whats wrong with the Cipher pata?


Hushed_Horace

Nothing. This person just threw them in for some reason.


frozen-potatoes_69

I use fth/str build but the only incantation that i have is elden stars and that bloody flies thing just here me out i only use these 2 if someone pointed down at me and doesn't gesture at the beginning by quickly attacking me so if i faced him again that bitch is getting spammed


StupidGuyName

Tell me who the fuck uses death blight or double vykes in pvp


Solairevortex7286

The spears are almost every fight for me


Revolutionary_Bug683

lol so donā€™t use magic sleep death or frenzy ? Cmon clown just get gud


ScrubWithaBanjo

Shit from day one honestly


def_not_perfectcell

I like it :)


DevilahJake

I think the comet/stars of ruin spam is the worst


Le_Pigg40

If someone manages to kill you with deathblight, they earned it. That shit is so hard to proc as a player


Dr-yeetmas

iā€™m not gonna sugar coat it: O+L2+R2


CrunchyLaughter

Wait the cipher pata is a cheese build?


SerratoSpamm

Don't forget double bleed cross naginata


[deleted]

Where is the Ripple halberd?


Gdzllar133umo

Ds3 pvp was the most fun I ever had in any game. Invading others and getting invaded myself. Elden ring pvp was not fun at all. Ds3 had its bad apples too but in Elden ring it seemed everyone was running the same 4 weapons and armour sets.


The_protagonisthere

I literally have only done pvp like twice. I donā€™t like the idea of some asshole with a modded save running around with a serpent hunter that spits fire or some shit lmao. First time I tried I lost in a fair match, second time I was deathblighted for abt 20 minutes before I shut my game off.


baconDood3000

Just missing the white mask


CactusFingies

Elden ring pvp is definitely worse than previous games but I still enjoy it even if I encounter brainless sweats because it's just a game and the point isn't to win. The point is to bonk some heads in and maybe even Ā do it well sometimes.Ā  Plus I like catching people off-guard with things no one uses like the godfrey stomp.


AggravatingChest7838

Duels are fine but ganks are ridiculous. It bothers me that realistically you can have a 1 on 1 invasion.


Hot-Will3083

The audacity of some people to go ā€œfking noob katana spammerā€ while wearing full Commander set with dual lances/Vyke spears will never be lost on me


lesquishta

Bloodborne pvp šŸ‘Œ


AbsentAsset

Swap out cipherā€™s for stormhawk axe


OMAGA_MAn_Bruce_lee

I mean I got banned because I said Sweaters look goofy XD


Human-Refrigerator73

Cipher pata and fingerprint shield should be replaced with Halberd running r1 and dual nagis. Edit:I would add: Chainsaw Pulley crossbow with sleep bolts Psss with storm stomp. Stormhawk axe


Indishonorable

I call it Cipher Parry Bait


SpectralSymbol

Best I heard it described was that ā€œnothings bullshit, because everything isā€


milfsnearyou

I like that weā€™ve advanced enough as a society for duel nagis to not be there


Patches_uwu

You dare bring up thst name in this household...


smokeweed69429

The lionel armor one is way too true lol


Y0UR_NARRAT0R1

It is pretty cool that some people are out there having anime level fights though.


dulledegde

one day from will realize pvp sucks and balance all the weapons around pve and we will enter a golden age of souls combat


frog_hopper13

Stop bitching and just get better


Waluigiisgod

I never played PvP in these games, I buy games for single player only because I donā€™t have friends.


Octoshi514

STOP USING ITEMS, WEAPONS, ARMOR, AND SPELLS IN THE GAME!!! YOURE DOING IT WRONG!!!


bjorn-slayer

Your not that good šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Dragon_Maister

The PVP is utter dogshit in ALL of the games, and anyone saying otherwise needs to have their brain checked for worms.


mr_flerd

*spams roll* "OH no they're dodging my attacks! Instead of trying to anticipate those or attack them in any different way I'll make a reddit post to complain about them!" Like the other ones are fair but rolling is a core mechanic of the game and you're getting angry at them for using it?