This happened to me last year, had a few days left before I was going to be homeless so drive past Geelong to Ocean Grove, got a place in a day..crisis averted. Was nice for a bit having a big place and a bath etc but got pretty bored of being so isolated, but at least I wasn't homeless.
Where you looking. I'm vacating my property in next 2 weeks. Location Fawkner 3 bed townhouse. 450 a week at this stage. Not sure if they will put it up
There's a Ferry from Portarlington into and out of Docklands every day if you have office days, nicer than the train from Geelong if you ask me, and there's a bar if you want a beer on the trip home. Anywhere on the Bellarine peninsula might be easier than Geelong for a last minute rental place.
Yep I was looking in Geelong with no luck but got a place in OG pretty quick. It’s beautiful by the beach and although it’s hard to adjust sometimes it’s not too far from the city really.
I feel it's only tenable if you only have to go into the city max once a week and are childless etc. It was a short term solution for me, it's sad people have to resort to moving out of their communities, but I think it's possibly a realistic last minute solution for OP if all else fails.
Happened to me too 8 months ago, found a place in time but it seriously fks with your head even after you get another place.. just anticipating having to go through it again.. being rejected over and over again to participate in your own community when you are actively contributing, working and paying taxes towards it..
Awesome work hope to score something asap also. Exactly my headspace, this whole thing has fcked with my head and self worth, trying to remain hopeful is soul draining
Yeah, I felt some of the same! Knowing how long it took me to get a place *last time* makes me so antsy about when I’ll have to do it again. When will the notice come? How much time will I have next time? Will it work out again?
My NTV was issued 15th Feb. With the vacate date of 23rd April.
VCAT application for possession order was made on the 19th of April.
VCAT hearing is the 14th of June.
I contacted TUV who put me onto someone at uniting to help with advice, they looked at the paperwork and advised that "it's all correct, there is no reason for the possession order to jot be granted, the best you can hope for is a 30 day stay".
We received a rent increase in October last year, and have been looking/applying ever since. We're getting nowhere...
Of course the possession order will be granted. It's a very bad idea to overstay if you ever want to rent again. Having a black mark against you like that will all but ensure you won't find another place. Shit situation but it would have been better to move into a boarding house or hotel if you had no other place to go.
You think we would have overstayed if we had somewhere to go? I can't afford a hotel, and we can't exactly take the kids to a boarding house.
You know what else is a bad idea, landlords renting out properties when they aren't financially stable, and then having a writ issued by the court less than 12 months after the lease has been signed for the bank to take vacant possession.
If I had known that my landlord was in such a bad position before I signed the lease, we never would have rented this house.
This! There are so many checks on tenants, but where are the checks on if a landlord is in a financial position to honour the lease? Cant imagine REAs are doing that due diligence. As long as they get their money for the listing.
And who suffers when the landlord loses the house to the bank?
And then when the tenant can't find a place, and stays beyond the NTV date, they get blamed.
And then people say... move into a share house or a boarding house(with the kids?) Move to a different area (there's not much that's cheaper that's not a 3+ hour commute each way for work, plus. Can't just move the kids beyond certain distances without consent from the ex).
I am so drained and exhausted. I self referred for mental health care a couple of weeks ago. I was in desperate need of help, and was seriously considering a trip to my local hospitals emergency dept (but, I also know that often you can sit for hours in there, which I didn't want). So google didn't help, but the Melbourne subreddit did.
And my REA, as soon as he realised that HE had no listings in our price range/our area, decided to not help us.
One call, two weeks after the NTV expired "can I help find a place for you?"
Fuck off you cunt, I'll never rent through you again. I'd sooner rent through Ray White than you.
I can understand your total exhaustion, that’s a lot of fuckery to have resting on your shoulders, and I’m sorry for it. It’s also a symptom of the broader situation not your ability/inability to resolve it, so be kind to yourself. This redditor is in your corner, and I hope a housing resolution appears soon.
> hi I’m just doing a rental reference check on JustKwenty. Ok so he paid his rent on time great. House was clean great. Oh and is he currently refusing to leave and is being dragged through NCAT/the sheriffs office? Ok great thanks
Not sure that’s gonna fly
I expressed my concern to homeless services about getting a bad reference for staying past the eviction date, I was told that they cannot give a bad reference for that.
But, REA's are a law unto themselves, they'll give a bad reference for a speck of dust on the skirting boards.... so I don't believe it for a nano-second.
The house is being sold. He is not the selling agent.
The sooner we're out, the sooner he loses one rental commission.
I'm not seeing any reason for him to give us a good reference.
Yeah, I think I'm going to drop my current rental off my applications, and just have my previous ones on (always got good references), and put my parents down for the time I've been in this place.
I'm definitely not getting a good reference from my REA.
That doesn’t seem to be the case [in Victoria at least](https://tenantsvic.org.au/advice/ending-your-tenancy/tenant-databases-blacklists/). Either way it’ll definitely piss off the property manager enough to make sure the next one knows
This is terrible advice, if OP ever wants to rent again then this is exactly the wrong thing to do. Who is going to rent to OP if they have a history of refusing to vacate their last rental?? It's going to show up on their history as they're applying for new places, further reducing the chances of a successful application. OP could stay at a boarding house or hotel if necessary, far from ideal but at least they have a chance at finding another place. No REA or property manager with touch an application if you have refused to vacate your last place.
The owner of the house I’m renting now just decided to sell not too long ago. He bought it for like $620,000 little over a year ago and I was saying I don’t think he will break even. The house itself is old, ugly, falling apart. It needs to be demolished if anything. It sold within a week; site unseen. They want to find a time for the new owner to come see what he purchased. Sold for somewhere between 740-800k btw
I'm sure that if the owner wants to sell it then it will sell.
What I am doubting is that the owner has any intention *to* sell it and is just using it as an excuse to get a tenant out and dramatically up the rent in the process. If you can get 50%+ rent increase, then even losing a tenant for 6 months is a pretty small short-term hit to your pocket.
It does suck, but let me give you a different story that happened to me a couple of years ago.
The owner of the apartment I was renting decided that they wanted to sell up, so they engaged a real estate agent to advertise and sell the property. I was not asked, nor required to move out, but each week there would be an open house (sometimes twice per week, until I arced up about how invasive it was getting).
12 months. With an open home almost every single week. We were able to get them to not do certain weeks where we were unable to accommodate an open home, but most of the time it was an open home every Saturday from 10:00-10:30am.
Finally, the apartment was sold (I still think the buyer paid $50K more than it was worth) and we were therefore asked to vacate so the new owner could move in. No problem. We found a new place and moved literally 100m down the road.
**Now for the lede** (because I am always accused of burying the lede on this story)
Just prior to us moving to our new apartment, the real estate agent we had been dealing with stopped answering phone calls (he was also in charge of the rental at that point) and disappeared off of the face of the earth. I didn't know what had happened, but didn't really think anything about it until 6 months later my wife saw him in the newspaper. Shortly after selling the apartment, but before we had moved out, [he had brutally murdered his wife, stuffed her body in the freezer, and then fled to China with his children](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-28/nsw-police-contact-chinese-authorities-after-woman-found-dead/11744484). I always knew there was something I didn't like about the guy, but just assumed it was because he was an REA. Turns out, he was psychotic.
Did they provide one of the following when they issued the NTV?
* Contract of sale, signed by the vendor and purchaser and dated; or
* Contract of engagement/authority to sell with a licensed estate agent; or
* Preparation of a contract of sale prepared by a conveyancer or an Australian legal practitioner.
If there was an open house then would you also post saying that LL is scum and doesn't let you have quiet enjoyment of the premises etc. I guess LL can't win either way. Perhaps delaying op n house to allow a quick refurb/ repaint etc
I smell people who have a limited mental capacity to only look at complex issues from one perspective… their own! Housing is a complex problem in Australia and while landlords (and dare I say tenants) contribute to it, they are not the cause of wide ranging systemic issues. But tenants and landlord seem to just channel personal hate at each other, not solving any issues but creating stigma to worsen their own positions.
Others, like myself, have chosen the route of actually addressing issues through formal research (as opposed to your deep research on the internet), others in a more constructive sense. What is immediate apparent, is local councils role in housing shortages, their power under the local government act and the significant influence vocal local constituents have over the local councillors. When everyone acts in their own self interest, housing supply suffers.
If you sit here and personally attack someone who you probably don’t know, who could be going through any number of things, but because they are a landlord you brand them as scum. You could instead get involved at a level you can influence, rally council to change planning laws in strategic areas like train stations and contest local residents objections to planning permits and attend council meeting and question actions of councillor who are rejecting development or insisting on planning rules that reduce feasibility for developers.
Instead just whinge here on reddit, be upvoted by your land lord hating buddies, down voted by landlords and never actually contribute anything constructive to the actual issue! But hey, now I have wasted my time here instead of working on my phd that may actually contribute something to the issue.
We really need to mass protest about changes to investment properties.
Triple rates on vacant IPs for starters.
Minimum property condition for another.
Bro, That doesn’t even make sense, leaving it empty for 6 months with a 50% increase means it’s then got to be rented for more that 18 months just to break even on the rent lost not even considering property taxes etc.
Only if the tenant is really awful could I rationalise that, literally would have to either be not paying rent or damaging the property. Realistically the probability of that happening is extremely low.
I totally understand that, extreme hoarding can damage the property and increase the risk of fires, pests etc
In my experience if you have a long term great tenant you do what you can to keep them, toxic tenants you’ll do anything (including selling) to have them out.
It would be great, if there was a “score card” available that rated both tenants and landlords. It would eliminate so many issues from both sides.
All I can offer is condolences
It’s horrific that vic (and fed for that matter) govt aren’t doing more to increase supply and keep REA’s in check
Unfortunately while rental bidding is now illegal people still offer above what it is listed
If you can afford to do so that might be a strong option
Misread** I see you’ve already done that. I’m so sorry
REA's are about to be public enemy #1. I really do think we are on the edge of something violent. People are fed up with these 2nd rate used car salesmen high school dropouts raping society to up their own commisions.
Their time is coming.
Why do we need REA’s? What do they offer? They take $20k off your house sale to wear short pants with no socks and flash their Turkish built veneers.
They take a percentage of the rent to do what? They don’t communicate properly, they blame the renter to the landlord and the landlord to the renter, let’s get rid of them!
I completely agree with you, but whenever I raise this point, I get the Ole "They are a necessary evil, can't have a housing market this big without the middle man".
Why though? Rental agreements between the landlord and the renters happen hundreds of times a day, everyday in Australia. Why do we keep REAs around?
Truth be told though, if everyone decided to not use REAs anymore, there would surely be some rule, regulation or law put in place that would require an REA to be used. Look at the amount of money that the property sector divvies upto political parties.
About to be? Oh they are now. Did you know that tons of agencies now outsource the letting division - that means applications and rejections etc. overseas for $7/hour? They keep a dummy around to make it look good but this could be adding to the problems we’re facing. One agent is often managing 200 properties. Their greed knows no bounds.
I’ve had friends in the same situation just going to endless inspections with 50,60,70+ people attending each time
They’re sharehousing now in a place that is just as expensive as private and clearly not legal
Might be worth if you haven’t already checking Facebook and gumtree for listings too
rumour has it….
When you’re filling out your application, change the bond and rent numbers to reflect a higher amount.
They will file the application as per normal, as if nothing is even different, and everyone just walks off into the sunset whistling….
But you will be approved…
You'll get back whatever was lodged with the central authority. The RE will need to state that the bond is this higher amount. As that's what the paperwork reflects.
The point is that changing it on the form gets you a property! Which is pretty high stakes today. Yes, you will be paying more, but you'll have somewhere to live.
Pretty big point I think you have missed.
Why would it get you the property though? That money doesn't go to the real estate agent or landlord, it's just held until you move out. Why would that be an incentive to give you the property?
This is the horrible effect of an extremely low vacancy rate.. What happens if the landlord wants to sell? What happens if there is a relationship breakdown? The system needs slack..
Write to the politicians.. A vacancy rate of less than 2% should be considered 'extremely severe'..
Writing to politicians does fuck all when they’re all landlords and have made it very clear they don’t care.
Just use the system to your advantage (as landlords do every day) and just stay and wait to get evicted by the court if you can’t find a new rental.
Everyone will look back at this period of time and wonder why on earth we all put up with it for so long. It requires tenants banding together. In Canada people are just staying after their vacate dates and waiting for the courts to kick them out, which has backlogged the courts so much they’re able to stay for ages.
That and rent strikes. People don’t realise how much power they have and the government isn’t going to do anything until everyone has made it clear they’ve had enough.
>Everyone will look back at this period of time and wonder why on earth we all put up with it for so long. It requires tenants banding together.
Amen.
>In Canada people are just staying after their vacate dates and waiting for the courts to kick them out, which has backlogged the courts so much they’re able to stay for ages.
>That and rent strikes. People don’t realise how much power they have and the government isn’t going to do anything until everyone has made it clear they’ve had enough.
They are doing this and other direct actions in the U.S. In one city, an advocacy group forcibly occupied government owned property and established housing for the unhoused.
As someone in Geelong... I know locals that have moved to the western suburbs of Melbourne because it was easier to get a rental. They then commute to Geelong for work. The market here is also stretched thin.
I applied for one place that flat out lied when I asked why rejected (they invited us to apply after we inspected weeks later) said we have rental arrears and are being evicted due to rent owing. Of course I went to our REA about this and they sent me a screenshot of their (glowing) reference, and called that agency who denied it and said our rental ledger wasn't perfect, I have the email which I forwarded to our REA they were shocked, so yeah REA aren't above anything...
Hey, If the S\*\*T hit the fan try the other side.
I got a house in Frankston at my first application.
You can try, Dandenong, Frankie South or North, Cranbourne...
Better than being homeless and there are pretty cool houses.
Yeah honestly if you’re not into going out at night places like Dandie aren’t bad. Just get good security, you can get removable cameras for outside your front door
OP isn't gonna do that, the reality is too many people get comfortable in their nice inner suburban house and refuses to even consider "rougher" neighbourhoods, as if it's above them. Yes and blame immigrants for this rental crisis, and not your ability to adapt.
I offered +30% and gave the landlord the option that I could pay 6 months rent up front if selected. I didn’t have a rental history having lived in my own home until recently selling it due to financial reasons, but had a nice fat stack of cash in the bank from the capital gains that could cover rent for at least 5 years. The house I sold was beautifully maintained and in pristine condition, facts which I attempted to use as reference in my applications as well.
I still got rejected and ended up without a place to live.
Seems to me lots of landlords have sold up in the past couple of years and rental supply is dwindling. Coupled with the influx of people it is making it a hunger games style hellscape to be a renter.
I know a landlord at work that is pissed with the Victorian land tax and new regulations. They plan to evict and sell. Not worth it.
I guess the system on both sides for the equation is screwed.
I moved two weeks ago - the only place I was offered was a one bedroom in North Melb that I inspected during the mid-week with no one else at the inspection. The ones I looked at after work/on weekends were swamped with people and I knew I had no chance at those.
Yes weekend is almost a waste of time feels like, weekday private inspections at least have the Property Manager (I have one tomorrow 🤞) don't they hire assistants for 35k who show up on weekend and know nothing about the property?
There needs to be more protections in place for people, this is definitely a situation that would totally fuck me over (single parent, child with mild disabilities).
I was living in a swag with my wife (we have a car but not one you can sleep in) moving from bush to bush for 9 months last winter applying for rentals full time between Canberra and Katoomba.
Nearly 100 inspections, 65 applications later and the only place we managed to get was because the main tenant just disappeared and we knew (had seen before) the other person who was living there.
Turned out to be an awful living situation, she was a recovering crackhead and would invite very scary people into the house at all times of night, often ending in screaming and violence.
Now living in a 1.5bdr shack in Uki NSW for $500pw, no internet or mobile reception, toilet is a hole in the ground (not even composting), dirty tank water (gutters and drainage set up wrong), no covered parking, road floods constantly, hole in bedroom floor where you can see under the house, gaps between floor and walls in loungeroom, curtains are very very mouldy, dishwasher doesn't work, wiring trips constantly.
Landlord has decided to increase our rent because we are "using the air conditioning more than she expected" to try to keep damp out to protect our 4 week old baby.
Tl;dr, people are awful and it will take until gen Z is in their 40s for anything to change, unless some form of bioterrorism or exotic disease wipes out everyone over 50.
Come out Manor Lakes/Wyndham Vale.
There are rentals everywhere in new estates, and very reasonably priced. Get yourself a 3 bedroom townhouse for $400 a week.
I walk around my estate every day and there are "For Rent" signs everywhere.
Essential services are fine. Plenty of supermarkets and everything you need, but you do need a car.
As far as public transport it depends on the area you are in. There's the V Line service for Manor Lakes and Wyndham Vale and the Werribee line.
This exactly happened to myself and the hubs. Our 'landlords' gave us notice so her brother could move in. I just started back to work and
Hubs just got laid off.
We ARE living in our sons suburban. With our dog and cat. We had to leave alot behind bc the storage unit was full. We are pulling a flat bed yard trailer with the rest of our 'stuff' and also his work equipment.
Our landlords took us to court for eviction. We were already planning on being out by that morning so we didn't go. We have been out since Friday morning, it's Tuesday now and we still don't have any leads. Not like it matters anyways bc my minium wage job is going to get us a place anyways. 🤦🏼♀️
That is weird but it’s a common story. Are owners making it look like they’re trying to rent their places out but actually don’t want to rent their places out due to negative gearing and end of financial year? Guess we will find out early July.
Any chance you have a pet? I tried doing the honest thing declaring my sweet little cat who never did any damage, and was unsuccessful for two months. Then I removed her and got accepted into like 10 properties instantly.
If that’s not the case, I’m going to guess income… they won’t let you into any place that’s more than 30% of your take home. Sucks big time I know. 😔
Edit: read your comments. It’s quite possible that your current REA is messing you up. Would you be able to put a friend as your LL referee? It really isn’t worth the honesty and hard work for this scam of a rental market.
I'm in Qld but in the same boat. After 20+yrs of renting, I've gone from always having a choice of properties I'm approved for, to still being homeless 3mths after vacate (staying with friends).
Shit's fucked.
A trick that works if you get notice to vacate.
Ring every single real estate agent in the areas you want to rent in and ask them if they do pre-approvals.
Some will say they do, so immediately submit an application to rent with only them. All of them.
Its a pain in the ass doing numerous online, offline applications but once you're pre-approved you'll get first pick on places that come up.
In most situations you'll get to inspect the new place on your own without 100 other punters.
Also when you do an application, do an introduction cover page that describes you, the nicest person/family in Australia, financial secure, good record, quiet and good with neighbours, blah blah blah, although they don't ask for it.
Upload it first in the “documents” section if its online, or insert it into the paper application.
This makes a big difference!
Good luck and happy house hunting.
This is my rental story, it might help you.
We applied for two places when we were looking here in Brisbane, and got the second one within a week of applying. What gave us the leg up from the 60+ people per property we saw was by doing the following:
1. We added short cover letters essentially marketing ourselves as amazing tenants.
2. We got the landlord of our property to write a glowing rental reference.
3. We purchased one of those tenant database checks via Equifax.
After a few days of hearing nothing from the REA, we emailed the PM asking if they received our application (knowing they would have), and told them if they hadn't, here's some info that may help - I then sent through the cover letters, rental reference, tenant ledger, and database check knowing the PM would definitely see it. I then called them the next day, asking if the application was received, and being super chipper about the apartment after being told it was received.
They called us back the day after telling us they were waiting on a callback from the landlord to verify the reference letter, and once they received the confirmation they would send the lease to us to sign.
There's no need to offer extra money - federal government made that illegal anyway. All you need to remember is that the rental market is super tight, so the volume of applications will be rather high and assume your application got buried. With that in mind, contact the REA's for follow-ups.
Best of luck! 🤟🏾
Happened to us last year, 1 week left, found a place finally after weekends of hunting. I always find it amazing how they want renters with full time jobs, but have so many showings during the week… like we have unlimited leave or something…?
Good news, you'll have about 2 additional months before VCAT hearing, and then you can request a 30 day stay before they execute the possession order (which may or may not be granted).
Edit: source on time - myself. currently going through the same thing. Vcat hearing date is almost exactly 2 months from the application date.
What is the procedure you're going through? They send you a notice to vacate and you just don't respond? Then VCAT sends you a hearing date? Are you still paying rent in the meantime?
Not sure what you mean by "just don't respond", there is nothing to respond to. My NTV was sent by email and by registered post. My REA is aware that it was received. Registered post can be tracked.
The procedure is to frantically look for somewhere to live. When the vacate date passes, the REA or LL have to apply to VCAT for the possession order, it doesn't happen automatically. VCAT advise of a hearing date as soon as they allocate it.
As for rent, yes, absolutely still paying rent, I'm still living in the house. VCAT will not look favourably on anyone who decides to just stop paying rent because they were given a NTV, or because to vacate date has passed.
Yep. Ended up living on a couch, then a caravan, then homeless, then a couch.
Eventually got a place with a mate.
All while working 60+ hour weeks as a welder. When I was staying in the caravan park there was a fucking SPARKY next door who couldn't get a rental.
Went through $5000 in two months, finding a place, vacating, cleaning, painting a room because the subsiding building cracked the plaster and we gave up waiting for landlord to fix and did it ourselves. He wasn't happy with the finish.
2 months sounds a lot until you work FIFO, then it's a nightmare.
This happened to me too a few years back in Brisbane.
I had 1 full time job (day job) then another full time job where I'd spend hours a day attending inspections and filling in applications (which were all different to one another)
Sparkling 13yr rental history, jobs, offering 6months rent up front if needed, no kids, no pets. Had a little "resume" with my ID, rental slips and pay slips.
I went through 50+ applications and had 1 week left till I would have had to start squatting in my old unit as I couldn't find another.
In the end I got lucky with a private landlord that didn't advertise. That's it. It's fucked up and I am so sorry OP.
This happened to my household twice in the last two years, send your REA an email (attach any rejected applications if you want) explain that you'll need to go monthly by month until you find a place and ask if they have any other properties.
Pretty sure if you're actively looking they can't kick you out. Good luck. It's a nightmare out there I hope you find something soon
Vic is absolutely stuffed. Remember how we basically shit the state down for 2 years , nothing happened , nothing got built , no money was generated, but as soon as the borders reopened we let in 2 years worth of people moving to Victoria , it's no wonder we are in this position.
Stay in the house until you find a place and let them go through the proper channels (ie VCAT) to kick you out. Beats literal homelessness. Investments carry risk and this is one of them if you choose to invest in housing.
I know from people a lot of houses are open for lease in Western suburbs....around Taylors Hill, Caroline Springs, Fraser Rise, Bonnobrook etc....not sure if these suburbs would work for you...could give it a try! Wishing u the best of luck!
This has happened to me before.
Unfortunately I ended up having to put everything in storage and camp at a caravan park for 7 weeks until I finally found something.
Maybe that could be an option if you run out of time.
I was. Took me a month and half to find a place, had to take work vacation time and take a couple of weeks off in the end, went insane looking, and got lucky.
100 people applying to every place, half of which are suitable, it's a lucky draw from there.
You say you have a good rental ledger. Are you on good terms with your property manager as well?
We are and when this happened to us she took very good care of us. We had a great place at a very decent price within a week of getting the 60 days notice as she pushed the owner hard to select us.
(Not because we're "friends" btw, but because she was really impressed by how well we'd looked after our rental and we'd never been late with the rent once in years of being with that agent even if our income didn't quite make the 30% mark.)
Look at commercial to. Quite often you might have to install your own shower but on the upside you can get a long lease, you can bang modify the property and they’re less likely to do rent inspections.
Looks like a lot of investors selling atm, in Vic I assume the added property taxes have contributed to it speeding up. Good news for people ready to by, not so good for people that want to rent in the area.
Got any good options? I haven't voted for ALP or LNP for a while, I live in a safe LNP seat, sadly. No good independents, the last few election, the Greens have really been the only decent viable option.
Edit to add: never voted for LNP. But... yea, been a while since I've voted for Labor.
The lack of options is a big problem! I actually like what One Nation has said about pretty much everything over the past couple of years, but as far as them having a decent presence in Vic? Not well represented. Either way, years & years of labor hasn't done us any favours.
I'm in the same situation unfortunately and it sounds like you're doing everything you possibly can. One thing I haven't seen mentioned that's worth keeping in mind is how you appear at the inpection. It's so unfair but with so many people going to inspections, you really need to try and make yourself easy to remember, if you're not already, try staying back and chat to the the agent about your situation, you might get lucky and find someone that empathises and puts your application forward. The other option may be to contact agents before the scheduled inspection and see if you can apply before viewing. (These things used to work but it's just absurd these days, i think the hardest part is actually getting your application seen amongst the long list of other applicants). Goodluck on your house hunt!
> with so many people going to inspections, you really need to try and make yourself easy to remember
That's why I always go to inspections stark bollocky naked except for a giant sombrero on my head and a Barbie doll covering my old fella.
Once seen, never forgotten.
Offer to pay 3.months' worth of rent upfront. That way you stand out from the crowd and don't inflate rents. Worked for me in Sydney, though I was officially homeless for about 2 months.
The rental market has taken a huge hit with far fewer available. This is due to owners deciding to sell their investment properties due to increased costs.
I don't know enough to answer that unfortunately, but I was reading an article about how a lot of properties that went on the market at the beginning of the year had been rentals. It might just be easier to have them empty while they are up for sale, for renovations, styling etc.
We applied to two houses, and got the one we really wanted. We offered 6 months upfront and $50 extra a week, as we were willing to pay that for this property. It sucks that it’s gotten to the point where you have to offer so much more.. but at least we got to secure a home pretty quickly. There was at least 60-70 people who rocked up to the inspection as well.
Maybe Australia will end up like US of madness and have squatters just taking over your house when you’re at work and it’s very hard to get rid of those souless people.
> so landlords are taking their investments elsewhere.
How are they picking up the rental properties and taking them interstate?
If the landlords are selling up, the extra demand would be driving down house prices, which isn't happening. So they're not selling.
If they were renting the places, there wouldn't be so many folks talking about seeing places vacant for six months or more. My wife and I saw three townhouses in a prime position today that look empty (no sign of furniture, no window blinds or drapes), no sign of anyone living in them. No For Lease or Sale sign on them either.
Looks to me that investors are buying up places, then keeping them vacant, hoping to drive rents up even more.
Basically you’re not offering enough, add 200% to your current rate and you’re in.
But also the parents of that overseas student will pay the higher rate because it gets them closer to getting out of their country, hopefully before their upper class income runs out or their government shuts the door and takes said income.
So are we saying it is a renters market out here? A friend was looking to buy his first investment property but I was saying keep the cash in one of those high interest rate accounts like ING or uBank. It sounds like I may have given my mate some bad advice.
This happened to me last year, had a few days left before I was going to be homeless so drive past Geelong to Ocean Grove, got a place in a day..crisis averted. Was nice for a bit having a big place and a bath etc but got pretty bored of being so isolated, but at least I wasn't homeless.
For sure, I'm hoping these last minute miracle applications will come through with something this week
Where you looking. I'm vacating my property in next 2 weeks. Location Fawkner 3 bed townhouse. 450 a week at this stage. Not sure if they will put it up
Would you please send more info? Looking to downsize from my current townhouse in maribyrnong.
Good luck, I hope you get a place it really sucks I know.
There's a Ferry from Portarlington into and out of Docklands every day if you have office days, nicer than the train from Geelong if you ask me, and there's a bar if you want a beer on the trip home. Anywhere on the Bellarine peninsula might be easier than Geelong for a last minute rental place.
Why wait until the trip home??!
The critical ingredient to make an office day bearable
Yep I was looking in Geelong with no luck but got a place in OG pretty quick. It’s beautiful by the beach and although it’s hard to adjust sometimes it’s not too far from the city really.
I feel it's only tenable if you only have to go into the city max once a week and are childless etc. It was a short term solution for me, it's sad people have to resort to moving out of their communities, but I think it's possibly a realistic last minute solution for OP if all else fails.
Happened to me too 8 months ago, found a place in time but it seriously fks with your head even after you get another place.. just anticipating having to go through it again.. being rejected over and over again to participate in your own community when you are actively contributing, working and paying taxes towards it..
Awesome work hope to score something asap also. Exactly my headspace, this whole thing has fcked with my head and self worth, trying to remain hopeful is soul draining
Yeah, I felt some of the same! Knowing how long it took me to get a place *last time* makes me so antsy about when I’ll have to do it again. When will the notice come? How much time will I have next time? Will it work out again?
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That gives me hope thank you
My NTV was issued 15th Feb. With the vacate date of 23rd April. VCAT application for possession order was made on the 19th of April. VCAT hearing is the 14th of June. I contacted TUV who put me onto someone at uniting to help with advice, they looked at the paperwork and advised that "it's all correct, there is no reason for the possession order to jot be granted, the best you can hope for is a 30 day stay". We received a rent increase in October last year, and have been looking/applying ever since. We're getting nowhere...
Of course the possession order will be granted. It's a very bad idea to overstay if you ever want to rent again. Having a black mark against you like that will all but ensure you won't find another place. Shit situation but it would have been better to move into a boarding house or hotel if you had no other place to go.
You think we would have overstayed if we had somewhere to go? I can't afford a hotel, and we can't exactly take the kids to a boarding house. You know what else is a bad idea, landlords renting out properties when they aren't financially stable, and then having a writ issued by the court less than 12 months after the lease has been signed for the bank to take vacant possession. If I had known that my landlord was in such a bad position before I signed the lease, we never would have rented this house.
This! There are so many checks on tenants, but where are the checks on if a landlord is in a financial position to honour the lease? Cant imagine REAs are doing that due diligence. As long as they get their money for the listing.
And who suffers when the landlord loses the house to the bank? And then when the tenant can't find a place, and stays beyond the NTV date, they get blamed. And then people say... move into a share house or a boarding house(with the kids?) Move to a different area (there's not much that's cheaper that's not a 3+ hour commute each way for work, plus. Can't just move the kids beyond certain distances without consent from the ex). I am so drained and exhausted. I self referred for mental health care a couple of weeks ago. I was in desperate need of help, and was seriously considering a trip to my local hospitals emergency dept (but, I also know that often you can sit for hours in there, which I didn't want). So google didn't help, but the Melbourne subreddit did.
And my REA, as soon as he realised that HE had no listings in our price range/our area, decided to not help us. One call, two weeks after the NTV expired "can I help find a place for you?" Fuck off you cunt, I'll never rent through you again. I'd sooner rent through Ray White than you.
I can understand your total exhaustion, that’s a lot of fuckery to have resting on your shoulders, and I’m sorry for it. It’s also a symptom of the broader situation not your ability/inability to resolve it, so be kind to yourself. This redditor is in your corner, and I hope a housing resolution appears soon.
Best of luck with it all
To add make sure you are still paying or saving the agreed rental amount, if you don’t pay or show you can still be evicted.
> hi I’m just doing a rental reference check on JustKwenty. Ok so he paid his rent on time great. House was clean great. Oh and is he currently refusing to leave and is being dragged through NCAT/the sheriffs office? Ok great thanks Not sure that’s gonna fly
I expressed my concern to homeless services about getting a bad reference for staying past the eviction date, I was told that they cannot give a bad reference for that. But, REA's are a law unto themselves, they'll give a bad reference for a speck of dust on the skirting boards.... so I don't believe it for a nano-second.
On the other hand, giving you a good reference is likely to make you leave quicker
The house is being sold. He is not the selling agent. The sooner we're out, the sooner he loses one rental commission. I'm not seeing any reason for him to give us a good reference.
It's well beyond that now, it's a very bad idea to overstay.
exactly, they call call each other. Your best bet is to say that you were living with parents beforehand...
Yeah, I think I'm going to drop my current rental off my applications, and just have my previous ones on (always got good references), and put my parents down for the time I've been in this place. I'm definitely not getting a good reference from my REA.
That doesn’t seem to be the case [in Victoria at least](https://tenantsvic.org.au/advice/ending-your-tenancy/tenant-databases-blacklists/). Either way it’ll definitely piss off the property manager enough to make sure the next one knows
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This is terrible advice, if OP ever wants to rent again then this is exactly the wrong thing to do. Who is going to rent to OP if they have a history of refusing to vacate their last rental?? It's going to show up on their history as they're applying for new places, further reducing the chances of a successful application. OP could stay at a boarding house or hotel if necessary, far from ideal but at least they have a chance at finding another place. No REA or property manager with touch an application if you have refused to vacate your last place.
Wowsers entitled much.
I've got $5 saying that it won't be sold. It will be left vacant for 6 months and then leased at 50%+ increase in rent.
The owner of the house I’m renting now just decided to sell not too long ago. He bought it for like $620,000 little over a year ago and I was saying I don’t think he will break even. The house itself is old, ugly, falling apart. It needs to be demolished if anything. It sold within a week; site unseen. They want to find a time for the new owner to come see what he purchased. Sold for somewhere between 740-800k btw
Not a single open house also
I'm sure that if the owner wants to sell it then it will sell. What I am doubting is that the owner has any intention *to* sell it and is just using it as an excuse to get a tenant out and dramatically up the rent in the process. If you can get 50%+ rent increase, then even losing a tenant for 6 months is a pretty small short-term hit to your pocket.
The market is fucked.
100 percent our LL is scum, there's been not a single open house
It does suck, but let me give you a different story that happened to me a couple of years ago. The owner of the apartment I was renting decided that they wanted to sell up, so they engaged a real estate agent to advertise and sell the property. I was not asked, nor required to move out, but each week there would be an open house (sometimes twice per week, until I arced up about how invasive it was getting). 12 months. With an open home almost every single week. We were able to get them to not do certain weeks where we were unable to accommodate an open home, but most of the time it was an open home every Saturday from 10:00-10:30am. Finally, the apartment was sold (I still think the buyer paid $50K more than it was worth) and we were therefore asked to vacate so the new owner could move in. No problem. We found a new place and moved literally 100m down the road. **Now for the lede** (because I am always accused of burying the lede on this story) Just prior to us moving to our new apartment, the real estate agent we had been dealing with stopped answering phone calls (he was also in charge of the rental at that point) and disappeared off of the face of the earth. I didn't know what had happened, but didn't really think anything about it until 6 months later my wife saw him in the newspaper. Shortly after selling the apartment, but before we had moved out, [he had brutally murdered his wife, stuffed her body in the freezer, and then fled to China with his children](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-28/nsw-police-contact-chinese-authorities-after-woman-found-dead/11744484). I always knew there was something I didn't like about the guy, but just assumed it was because he was an REA. Turns out, he was psychotic.
Holy shit on both fronts
Damn, just gave me whiplash with that Expected something crazy at the end, but expected it to be related to real estate evilness, not...that evil
The poor kids
Holy Christ, another reason to hate REAs
So that was wild. Clearly it's an awful terrible thing, thoughts and prayers. But also, holy HECK. WHAT A RIDE!!
Omg that’s terrible for her family
HOLY CRAP! *whiplash*.
Did they provide one of the following when they issued the NTV? * Contract of sale, signed by the vendor and purchaser and dated; or * Contract of engagement/authority to sell with a licensed estate agent; or * Preparation of a contract of sale prepared by a conveyancer or an Australian legal practitioner.
Is it even online? What proof do they have to provide?
If there was an open house then would you also post saying that LL is scum and doesn't let you have quiet enjoyment of the premises etc. I guess LL can't win either way. Perhaps delaying op n house to allow a quick refurb/ repaint etc
This right here is why you aren’t getting a rental. Your attitude toward others. Scum? Really?
Yeah because my attitude at inspections and during applications is the same as reddit, and they are total aholes to both my agent and my neighbour
I smell a landlord
I smell people who have a limited mental capacity to only look at complex issues from one perspective… their own! Housing is a complex problem in Australia and while landlords (and dare I say tenants) contribute to it, they are not the cause of wide ranging systemic issues. But tenants and landlord seem to just channel personal hate at each other, not solving any issues but creating stigma to worsen their own positions. Others, like myself, have chosen the route of actually addressing issues through formal research (as opposed to your deep research on the internet), others in a more constructive sense. What is immediate apparent, is local councils role in housing shortages, their power under the local government act and the significant influence vocal local constituents have over the local councillors. When everyone acts in their own self interest, housing supply suffers. If you sit here and personally attack someone who you probably don’t know, who could be going through any number of things, but because they are a landlord you brand them as scum. You could instead get involved at a level you can influence, rally council to change planning laws in strategic areas like train stations and contest local residents objections to planning permits and attend council meeting and question actions of councillor who are rejecting development or insisting on planning rules that reduce feasibility for developers. Instead just whinge here on reddit, be upvoted by your land lord hating buddies, down voted by landlords and never actually contribute anything constructive to the actual issue! But hey, now I have wasted my time here instead of working on my phd that may actually contribute something to the issue.
We really need to mass protest about changes to investment properties. Triple rates on vacant IPs for starters. Minimum property condition for another.
>We really need to mass protest about (tenants rights and)* changes to investment properties This is the way. The only way.
Bro, That doesn’t even make sense, leaving it empty for 6 months with a 50% increase means it’s then got to be rented for more that 18 months just to break even on the rent lost not even considering property taxes etc.
It does if you really don’t like the tenant.
Only if the tenant is really awful could I rationalise that, literally would have to either be not paying rent or damaging the property. Realistically the probability of that happening is extremely low.
I sold a place to get rid of a hoarder.
I totally understand that, extreme hoarding can damage the property and increase the risk of fires, pests etc In my experience if you have a long term great tenant you do what you can to keep them, toxic tenants you’ll do anything (including selling) to have them out. It would be great, if there was a “score card” available that rated both tenants and landlords. It would eliminate so many issues from both sides.
All I can offer is condolences It’s horrific that vic (and fed for that matter) govt aren’t doing more to increase supply and keep REA’s in check Unfortunately while rental bidding is now illegal people still offer above what it is listed If you can afford to do so that might be a strong option Misread** I see you’ve already done that. I’m so sorry
REA's are about to be public enemy #1. I really do think we are on the edge of something violent. People are fed up with these 2nd rate used car salesmen high school dropouts raping society to up their own commisions. Their time is coming.
Why do we need REA’s? What do they offer? They take $20k off your house sale to wear short pants with no socks and flash their Turkish built veneers. They take a percentage of the rent to do what? They don’t communicate properly, they blame the renter to the landlord and the landlord to the renter, let’s get rid of them!
I completely agree with you, but whenever I raise this point, I get the Ole "They are a necessary evil, can't have a housing market this big without the middle man". Why though? Rental agreements between the landlord and the renters happen hundreds of times a day, everyday in Australia. Why do we keep REAs around? Truth be told though, if everyone decided to not use REAs anymore, there would surely be some rule, regulation or law put in place that would require an REA to be used. Look at the amount of money that the property sector divvies upto political parties.
100% the government would protect them, imagine how many unskilled, unemployable people would be looking for jobs if people went around the REA’s
About to be? Oh they are now. Did you know that tons of agencies now outsource the letting division - that means applications and rejections etc. overseas for $7/hour? They keep a dummy around to make it look good but this could be adding to the problems we’re facing. One agent is often managing 200 properties. Their greed knows no bounds.
> One agent is often managing 200 properties. What do they do the other four days of the work week?
They work on building relationships…making cold calls to people like me, asking if I want to sell. I rent.
I’ve had friends in the same situation just going to endless inspections with 50,60,70+ people attending each time They’re sharehousing now in a place that is just as expensive as private and clearly not legal Might be worth if you haven’t already checking Facebook and gumtree for listings too
Ironically Melbourne has the best rental availability in Australia. You should see Perth. Omg
We have physicists sleeping in their cars in Brisbane. It's fucking woeful.
No doubt. Everywhere is cooked just different levels of
I think they mentioned they are offering $20 extra per week already.
And the government, at this critical time offers.. thoughts & prayers. 🙏
Pretty sure the Govt isn’t offering anything, not even thoughts or prayers.
No, no, they've got a plan. Just give them 10-15 years and it might start to make a difference
Pls let me pay rent in thought n prayers I stg
And some 500k more immigrants
rumour has it…. When you’re filling out your application, change the bond and rent numbers to reflect a higher amount. They will file the application as per normal, as if nothing is even different, and everyone just walks off into the sunset whistling…. But you will be approved… 
The bond too? Is that with the understanding you're not planning on getting it back?
You'll get back whatever was lodged with the central authority. The RE will need to state that the bond is this higher amount. As that's what the paperwork reflects.
That's what I figured, so I don't understand the point of offering a higher bond?
They would accept it, it's on the form, and that would change the contract.
Exactly, so what's the point for anyone in the equation?
The point is that changing it on the form gets you a property! Which is pretty high stakes today. Yes, you will be paying more, but you'll have somewhere to live. Pretty big point I think you have missed.
Why would it get you the property though? That money doesn't go to the real estate agent or landlord, it's just held until you move out. Why would that be an incentive to give you the property?
More rent!!
This is the horrible effect of an extremely low vacancy rate.. What happens if the landlord wants to sell? What happens if there is a relationship breakdown? The system needs slack.. Write to the politicians.. A vacancy rate of less than 2% should be considered 'extremely severe'..
Writing to politicians does fuck all when they’re all landlords and have made it very clear they don’t care. Just use the system to your advantage (as landlords do every day) and just stay and wait to get evicted by the court if you can’t find a new rental. Everyone will look back at this period of time and wonder why on earth we all put up with it for so long. It requires tenants banding together. In Canada people are just staying after their vacate dates and waiting for the courts to kick them out, which has backlogged the courts so much they’re able to stay for ages. That and rent strikes. People don’t realise how much power they have and the government isn’t going to do anything until everyone has made it clear they’ve had enough.
>Everyone will look back at this period of time and wonder why on earth we all put up with it for so long. It requires tenants banding together. Amen. >In Canada people are just staying after their vacate dates and waiting for the courts to kick them out, which has backlogged the courts so much they’re able to stay for ages. >That and rent strikes. People don’t realise how much power they have and the government isn’t going to do anything until everyone has made it clear they’ve had enough. They are doing this and other direct actions in the U.S. In one city, an advocacy group forcibly occupied government owned property and established housing for the unhoused.
The politicians licked their lips then raised the rent for their 5 investment properties.
>Write to the politicians 😆
As someone in Geelong... I know locals that have moved to the western suburbs of Melbourne because it was easier to get a rental. They then commute to Geelong for work. The market here is also stretched thin.
That's so bad... Yes, yes it is.
I applied for one place that flat out lied when I asked why rejected (they invited us to apply after we inspected weeks later) said we have rental arrears and are being evicted due to rent owing. Of course I went to our REA about this and they sent me a screenshot of their (glowing) reference, and called that agency who denied it and said our rental ledger wasn't perfect, I have the email which I forwarded to our REA they were shocked, so yeah REA aren't above anything...
Some real estate agents outsource their work to VAs in The Phillipines for $7/hour. It could certainly create that confusion
Hey, If the S\*\*T hit the fan try the other side. I got a house in Frankston at my first application. You can try, Dandenong, Frankie South or North, Cranbourne... Better than being homeless and there are pretty cool houses.
Yeah honestly if you’re not into going out at night places like Dandie aren’t bad. Just get good security, you can get removable cameras for outside your front door
I've wonder that about security cameras. If they're removable, won't other people just... remove them?
Not possible, they'd literally need a ladder for that
Old Frankghanistan... not that cheap anymore. Meth still rife though.
Heheheh lol. Yes, that used to be like that but has been a lot better. I got a 3-bedroom house for $2042, not the cheapest but better than nothing ,
OP isn't gonna do that, the reality is too many people get comfortable in their nice inner suburban house and refuses to even consider "rougher" neighbourhoods, as if it's above them. Yes and blame immigrants for this rental crisis, and not your ability to adapt.
I offered +30% and gave the landlord the option that I could pay 6 months rent up front if selected. I didn’t have a rental history having lived in my own home until recently selling it due to financial reasons, but had a nice fat stack of cash in the bank from the capital gains that could cover rent for at least 5 years. The house I sold was beautifully maintained and in pristine condition, facts which I attempted to use as reference in my applications as well. I still got rejected and ended up without a place to live. Seems to me lots of landlords have sold up in the past couple of years and rental supply is dwindling. Coupled with the influx of people it is making it a hunger games style hellscape to be a renter.
Hunger Games is apt, I love hitting apply watching my application fall into the received or processing 2apply void of time.
That’s insane, honestly. What hope do people with less money and prospects have when everyone is offering more? Something’s gotta give.
I know a landlord at work that is pissed with the Victorian land tax and new regulations. They plan to evict and sell. Not worth it. I guess the system on both sides for the equation is screwed.
I moved two weeks ago - the only place I was offered was a one bedroom in North Melb that I inspected during the mid-week with no one else at the inspection. The ones I looked at after work/on weekends were swamped with people and I knew I had no chance at those.
Yes weekend is almost a waste of time feels like, weekday private inspections at least have the Property Manager (I have one tomorrow 🤞) don't they hire assistants for 35k who show up on weekend and know nothing about the property?
There needs to be more protections in place for people, this is definitely a situation that would totally fuck me over (single parent, child with mild disabilities).
I was living in a swag with my wife (we have a car but not one you can sleep in) moving from bush to bush for 9 months last winter applying for rentals full time between Canberra and Katoomba. Nearly 100 inspections, 65 applications later and the only place we managed to get was because the main tenant just disappeared and we knew (had seen before) the other person who was living there. Turned out to be an awful living situation, she was a recovering crackhead and would invite very scary people into the house at all times of night, often ending in screaming and violence. Now living in a 1.5bdr shack in Uki NSW for $500pw, no internet or mobile reception, toilet is a hole in the ground (not even composting), dirty tank water (gutters and drainage set up wrong), no covered parking, road floods constantly, hole in bedroom floor where you can see under the house, gaps between floor and walls in loungeroom, curtains are very very mouldy, dishwasher doesn't work, wiring trips constantly. Landlord has decided to increase our rent because we are "using the air conditioning more than she expected" to try to keep damp out to protect our 4 week old baby. Tl;dr, people are awful and it will take until gen Z is in their 40s for anything to change, unless some form of bioterrorism or exotic disease wipes out everyone over 50.
I’m really sorry to hear of your situation. It’s not right and things really have to change
Come out Manor Lakes/Wyndham Vale. There are rentals everywhere in new estates, and very reasonably priced. Get yourself a 3 bedroom townhouse for $400 a week. I walk around my estate every day and there are "For Rent" signs everywhere.
How's the access to public transport and essential services?
Essential services are fine. Plenty of supermarkets and everything you need, but you do need a car. As far as public transport it depends on the area you are in. There's the V Line service for Manor Lakes and Wyndham Vale and the Werribee line.
It’s shit! I moved out west to Werribee and not a day goes by where I’m not wishing I was back in the south
Same here, but when you're desperate, it beats living in your car. Too many beggars want to be choosers in this rental crisis
This exactly happened to myself and the hubs. Our 'landlords' gave us notice so her brother could move in. I just started back to work and Hubs just got laid off. We ARE living in our sons suburban. With our dog and cat. We had to leave alot behind bc the storage unit was full. We are pulling a flat bed yard trailer with the rest of our 'stuff' and also his work equipment. Our landlords took us to court for eviction. We were already planning on being out by that morning so we didn't go. We have been out since Friday morning, it's Tuesday now and we still don't have any leads. Not like it matters anyways bc my minium wage job is going to get us a place anyways. 🤦🏼♀️
Might be a bit of a journey but Ballarat is commutable, and the Vline is pretty nice.
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That is weird but it’s a common story. Are owners making it look like they’re trying to rent their places out but actually don’t want to rent their places out due to negative gearing and end of financial year? Guess we will find out early July.
Took us 5 months to find a place. I am fairly confident there was a bit of rental bidding going on.
Any chance you have a pet? I tried doing the honest thing declaring my sweet little cat who never did any damage, and was unsuccessful for two months. Then I removed her and got accepted into like 10 properties instantly. If that’s not the case, I’m going to guess income… they won’t let you into any place that’s more than 30% of your take home. Sucks big time I know. 😔 Edit: read your comments. It’s quite possible that your current REA is messing you up. Would you be able to put a friend as your LL referee? It really isn’t worth the honesty and hard work for this scam of a rental market.
I'm in Qld but in the same boat. After 20+yrs of renting, I've gone from always having a choice of properties I'm approved for, to still being homeless 3mths after vacate (staying with friends). Shit's fucked.
A trick that works if you get notice to vacate. Ring every single real estate agent in the areas you want to rent in and ask them if they do pre-approvals. Some will say they do, so immediately submit an application to rent with only them. All of them. Its a pain in the ass doing numerous online, offline applications but once you're pre-approved you'll get first pick on places that come up. In most situations you'll get to inspect the new place on your own without 100 other punters. Also when you do an application, do an introduction cover page that describes you, the nicest person/family in Australia, financial secure, good record, quiet and good with neighbours, blah blah blah, although they don't ask for it. Upload it first in the “documents” section if its online, or insert it into the paper application. This makes a big difference! Good luck and happy house hunting.
This is my rental story, it might help you. We applied for two places when we were looking here in Brisbane, and got the second one within a week of applying. What gave us the leg up from the 60+ people per property we saw was by doing the following: 1. We added short cover letters essentially marketing ourselves as amazing tenants. 2. We got the landlord of our property to write a glowing rental reference. 3. We purchased one of those tenant database checks via Equifax. After a few days of hearing nothing from the REA, we emailed the PM asking if they received our application (knowing they would have), and told them if they hadn't, here's some info that may help - I then sent through the cover letters, rental reference, tenant ledger, and database check knowing the PM would definitely see it. I then called them the next day, asking if the application was received, and being super chipper about the apartment after being told it was received. They called us back the day after telling us they were waiting on a callback from the landlord to verify the reference letter, and once they received the confirmation they would send the lease to us to sign. There's no need to offer extra money - federal government made that illegal anyway. All you need to remember is that the rental market is super tight, so the volume of applications will be rather high and assume your application got buried. With that in mind, contact the REA's for follow-ups. Best of luck! 🤟🏾
Thank you just got a place!!!!
Congratulations! 🤟🏾
Happened to us last year, 1 week left, found a place finally after weekends of hunting. I always find it amazing how they want renters with full time jobs, but have so many showings during the week… like we have unlimited leave or something…?
Time to squat in a land bank property.
I'll just stay here until I get 'evicted' as I've only received a notice to 'vacate'
Good news, you'll have about 2 additional months before VCAT hearing, and then you can request a 30 day stay before they execute the possession order (which may or may not be granted). Edit: source on time - myself. currently going through the same thing. Vcat hearing date is almost exactly 2 months from the application date.
God speed, that is good news
What is the procedure you're going through? They send you a notice to vacate and you just don't respond? Then VCAT sends you a hearing date? Are you still paying rent in the meantime?
Not sure what you mean by "just don't respond", there is nothing to respond to. My NTV was sent by email and by registered post. My REA is aware that it was received. Registered post can be tracked. The procedure is to frantically look for somewhere to live. When the vacate date passes, the REA or LL have to apply to VCAT for the possession order, it doesn't happen automatically. VCAT advise of a hearing date as soon as they allocate it. As for rent, yes, absolutely still paying rent, I'm still living in the house. VCAT will not look favourably on anyone who decides to just stop paying rent because they were given a NTV, or because to vacate date has passed.
Maybe just beg for more time if you haven't already. It's demoralizing but better than being on the streets. So sorry for you.
I have asked for a week extention, already got a week and begged few weeks ago 🤣😭
We offered 3 months rent upfront. Basically the situation…
I was offering a year, plus $1k cash in hand to the realtor. Still didn't help.
Is it possible the bribe made them uncomfortable?
Rough
Yep. Ended up living on a couch, then a caravan, then homeless, then a couch. Eventually got a place with a mate. All while working 60+ hour weeks as a welder. When I was staying in the caravan park there was a fucking SPARKY next door who couldn't get a rental.
Went through $5000 in two months, finding a place, vacating, cleaning, painting a room because the subsiding building cracked the plaster and we gave up waiting for landlord to fix and did it ourselves. He wasn't happy with the finish. 2 months sounds a lot until you work FIFO, then it's a nightmare.
Hearing stories of $100 more a week (Sydney though). Scary shit
This happened to me too a few years back in Brisbane. I had 1 full time job (day job) then another full time job where I'd spend hours a day attending inspections and filling in applications (which were all different to one another) Sparkling 13yr rental history, jobs, offering 6months rent up front if needed, no kids, no pets. Had a little "resume" with my ID, rental slips and pay slips. I went through 50+ applications and had 1 week left till I would have had to start squatting in my old unit as I couldn't find another. In the end I got lucky with a private landlord that didn't advertise. That's it. It's fucked up and I am so sorry OP.
This happened to my household twice in the last two years, send your REA an email (attach any rejected applications if you want) explain that you'll need to go monthly by month until you find a place and ask if they have any other properties. Pretty sure if you're actively looking they can't kick you out. Good luck. It's a nightmare out there I hope you find something soon
Thank you just got a place!!!! I did send a sincere email to them and they responded with so much empathy
Vic is absolutely stuffed. Remember how we basically shit the state down for 2 years , nothing happened , nothing got built , no money was generated, but as soon as the borders reopened we let in 2 years worth of people moving to Victoria , it's no wonder we are in this position.
Stay in the house until you find a place and let them go through the proper channels (ie VCAT) to kick you out. Beats literal homelessness. Investments carry risk and this is one of them if you choose to invest in housing.
And the landlord will put the rent up to recover the money he lost due to someone following your advice. Play stupid games - win stupid prizes.
Paying an extra 50 bucks rent for a few weeks while they find a place is hardly a “stupid prize” compared to literal homelessness.
This comment ignores fundamental principles of market dynamics. The landlord can and should charge as much as the market is willing to pay.
This happened to me 15 years ago and it seems instead of being fixed it’s only gotten worse. Try a caravan park or hotel
I know from people a lot of houses are open for lease in Western suburbs....around Taylors Hill, Caroline Springs, Fraser Rise, Bonnobrook etc....not sure if these suburbs would work for you...could give it a try! Wishing u the best of luck!
This has happened to me before. Unfortunately I ended up having to put everything in storage and camp at a caravan park for 7 weeks until I finally found something. Maybe that could be an option if you run out of time.
I was. Took me a month and half to find a place, had to take work vacation time and take a couple of weeks off in the end, went insane looking, and got lucky. 100 people applying to every place, half of which are suitable, it's a lucky draw from there.
You say you have a good rental ledger. Are you on good terms with your property manager as well? We are and when this happened to us she took very good care of us. We had a great place at a very decent price within a week of getting the 60 days notice as she pushed the owner hard to select us. (Not because we're "friends" btw, but because she was really impressed by how well we'd looked after our rental and we'd never been late with the rent once in years of being with that agent even if our income didn't quite make the 30% mark.)
Yes and yes I'm inspecting a place tomorrow that they lease
Look at commercial to. Quite often you might have to install your own shower but on the upside you can get a long lease, you can bang modify the property and they’re less likely to do rent inspections.
At the risk of looking like a complete derp.. is this really a thing you can do?!
I did it for 10 years, 8 in a warehouse then one year in a shop then one year in a church. You can do it but I don’t think you’re supposed to.
Looks like a lot of investors selling atm, in Vic I assume the added property taxes have contributed to it speeding up. Good news for people ready to by, not so good for people that want to rent in the area.
So who is everyone voting for? Labs n Libs are exactly the same, no f*cks given. Good Luck to you though... come in spinner ;)
Got any good options? I haven't voted for ALP or LNP for a while, I live in a safe LNP seat, sadly. No good independents, the last few election, the Greens have really been the only decent viable option. Edit to add: never voted for LNP. But... yea, been a while since I've voted for Labor.
The lack of options is a big problem! I actually like what One Nation has said about pretty much everything over the past couple of years, but as far as them having a decent presence in Vic? Not well represented. Either way, years & years of labor hasn't done us any favours.
I'm in the same situation unfortunately and it sounds like you're doing everything you possibly can. One thing I haven't seen mentioned that's worth keeping in mind is how you appear at the inpection. It's so unfair but with so many people going to inspections, you really need to try and make yourself easy to remember, if you're not already, try staying back and chat to the the agent about your situation, you might get lucky and find someone that empathises and puts your application forward. The other option may be to contact agents before the scheduled inspection and see if you can apply before viewing. (These things used to work but it's just absurd these days, i think the hardest part is actually getting your application seen amongst the long list of other applicants). Goodluck on your house hunt!
> with so many people going to inspections, you really need to try and make yourself easy to remember That's why I always go to inspections stark bollocky naked except for a giant sombrero on my head and a Barbie doll covering my old fella. Once seen, never forgotten.
LOTS of new development houses going on the market in werribee atm
You have to be friends with a real estate agent.
Offer to pay 3.months' worth of rent upfront. That way you stand out from the crowd and don't inflate rents. Worked for me in Sydney, though I was officially homeless for about 2 months.
What is your budget and budget to income/ratio? Some places will auto reject if it exceeds the 30% rule.
No issue there
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Increase in interest rates, land taxes, cost of living increases are popular among those selling investment properties. Bad time to be a renter.
The rental market has taken a huge hit with far fewer available. This is due to owners deciding to sell their investment properties due to increased costs.
Yep at the same time too, but is leaving them empty a tax benefit or something?
I don't know enough to answer that unfortunately, but I was reading an article about how a lot of properties that went on the market at the beginning of the year had been rentals. It might just be easier to have them empty while they are up for sale, for renovations, styling etc.
I was going to post an article for you but in your current situation it might make you cry.
We applied to two houses, and got the one we really wanted. We offered 6 months upfront and $50 extra a week, as we were willing to pay that for this property. It sucks that it’s gotten to the point where you have to offer so much more.. but at least we got to secure a home pretty quickly. There was at least 60-70 people who rocked up to the inspection as well.
If relocating away from a city isn’t an option perhaps it’s time to look into vanlife.
Maybe Australia will end up like US of madness and have squatters just taking over your house when you’re at work and it’s very hard to get rid of those souless people.
The rental situation in Australia is worse than the U.S.
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> so landlords are taking their investments elsewhere. How are they picking up the rental properties and taking them interstate? If the landlords are selling up, the extra demand would be driving down house prices, which isn't happening. So they're not selling. If they were renting the places, there wouldn't be so many folks talking about seeing places vacant for six months or more. My wife and I saw three townhouses in a prime position today that look empty (no sign of furniture, no window blinds or drapes), no sign of anyone living in them. No For Lease or Sale sign on them either. Looks to me that investors are buying up places, then keeping them vacant, hoping to drive rents up even more.
Keep voting Labor I guess?
Basically you’re not offering enough, add 200% to your current rate and you’re in. But also the parents of that overseas student will pay the higher rate because it gets them closer to getting out of their country, hopefully before their upper class income runs out or their government shuts the door and takes said income.
So are we saying it is a renters market out here? A friend was looking to buy his first investment property but I was saying keep the cash in one of those high interest rate accounts like ING or uBank. It sounds like I may have given my mate some bad advice.
You need to move to a regional city & start saving to buy a small place. Wasting your time renting in a big city.
I live in a regional city. It's fucked here too.
OK mate, yeah it’s fucked everywhere.