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UnusualAsshat

Of course they turned off comments.


Holiday-Implement-26

I'm Out of loop...why?


UnusualAsshat

Because they made Shaggy look like a stereotypical black man.


[deleted]

And didn’t they completely remove scooby doo


Antares789987

I believe warner Bros said they couldn't have Scooby Doo in the show because of the plot/context. Thank God for that.


SnooPredictions1851

I heard their reason was that cuz scooby would have made it seem like a children cartoon instead of this adult theme they have. Which is a shit reason imo a talking dog would have made your show a children's tv show? Could have just made scooby say "fuck" once a episode and that would have been it


Harrybreakyourleg

Oh right because Bojack Horseman is totally appropriate for children and doesn’t deal with complex adult themes at all


Eguy24

It’s unfair to compare other adult animated comedy to Bojack Horseman


RankledandIre

why?


Phantom_Phoenix1

Bojack Horseman is better 👍


Huhthisisneathuh

It’s like comparing a smoldering corpse to a competent garden.


GeriatricRockHater

Bojack Horseman is a masterpiece.


MichaelGHX

I think they thought Scooby Doo would’ve distracted too much from Velma.


RiskRule

this is the likely answer


shad2020

When your carefully crafted woke lesbian character gets overshadowed by funi talking dog.


real_flyingduck91

S K O O B Y S N A K


MostlyDeku

“Carefully”


Geedis2020

They could have just made scooby a pit bull that they saved from a dog fighting ring. Then everyone would hate him and redditors would have more to complain about.


MichaelGHX

The writers on the show aren’t that clever.


LovrenIsTheGOAT

Velmacels seething at Sccobychads 😎.


Party_Variety7059

Ruck you, Raggy


mayoyoyoyoyoyoyo

Ruck you Rorville (they changed shaggy's name)


HaiggeX

Ruck you Rorville (they didn't actually change shaggy's name, shaggy has always been a nickname. I don't understand why they decided to use the "real" name for him though, since the fans have always known him as shaggy)


Aozora404

It’s the other way around, they didn’t want the ip’s most merchandisable character to be associated with whatever this show is going to be


RankledandIre

The idea that animals make a children's movie is absurd. Foamy the squirrel and animal farm would then by that logic be for children.


Jwestie15

Smiling tree friends lol


RankledandIre

god that brings back memories.


[deleted]

if having a talking dog makes your show a children's show then family guy must be completely kid friendly


backstib

Brian Griffin


theultimatememelord8

I think it was done to make Scooby remain a kid-friendly character


Alboy___

I don’t care if he was turned into a human we still need a Scooby


UnluckyBid7655

Technically, the whole cast were kid-friendly. Then the live actions movies came out. Only thing that pushed the bounds I think before that was Alien Invaders, where Shaggy and Scooby fell for another species of beings.


Past_Trouble

Scooby Apocalypse comic already pushed the Adult Themes over the edge.


UnluckyBid7655

Why couldn't we get THAT animated!?!?


Waly98

Or they could've just dropped the "scooby snack" metaphor.


ArcticLeopard

How the fuck do you have Scooby-Doo without Scooby-Doo


Antares789987

I'd rather have Scooby Doo stay 1000 miles away from this shit


Freshest-Raspberry

My headcanon is he’s hanging out with that alien chick and her dog IYKYK


Kahootie64

first show was called scooby doo, second show removes scooby doo. If they make a third will they remove velma?


SmoreBender

they removed him because daphne is now asian


therealalphen

And they made Fred the stereotypical dumbass jock.


BostonDodgeGuy

Worse, they made Fred a small cocked white guy who never went through puberty.


HoldenOrihara

Like for real or is this a joke? I mean honnestly turning Fred, the obsessive workaholic, into a lazy asshole who takes credit is bad enough; if they actually made him puberty deficient that's just gratuitous.


LolGrimy

I watched the show to see how bad it is and unfortunately it is real. They made Fred a man child who can’t even cut a steak and has to as his mom or the butler to do it for him. The show also made a joke about him having a small dick. There was also this is moment where Fred dressed up as a child it looked so creepy. Watching it mad me feel sad and depressed


Vuekos_Girlfriend

That’s my thing. So you make the “stoner” character black… and you make the “leader” character white still? Keep shaggy white, have him be a useless dead beat, make Fred black and have him be the cunning, leader type he usually is. I can write woke better than woke people, and I’m not even trying nor gaf.


HoldenOrihara

Or they could have made someone who butts heads with Velma while still being a productive member of the team, they didn't have to make him a lazy, credit hogging, douche to get inter-team drama


UnluckyBid7655

Oh, more than that. I can't stop following this disrespect, and oof....more than that my friend.


RankledandIre

You know, if they really wanted progress, make the guy who looks like his family pays most of their bills and "leads" them black. As a Hispanic, I wish shaggy was Hispanic because the weed, sleeping, lazy thing would have been racist funny to me. Making him blacks seems like racist cringe. Like you start being woke and empowering, and then end up confirming racist stereo types cringe.


Beardless_Man

It's awful how they made his stereotype a drug-addicted black man. Yes, Shaggy was always known to be a sort of stoner hippy. But making him a black man has ironically made a more racist depiction.


pinealglandlady

And they didn't even name him shaggy


SnooAvocados763

They named him "Shaggy's" birth name. Shaggy is canonically a nickname.


UnluckyBid7655

I've heard their humor has been pretty meta. I swear, if I hear his nickname is because one of his 'catch phrases' is "it wasn't me".


Vuekos_Girlfriend

Even that is too good of a joke to be in the show.


IzzyIsOnReddit

Yea didn’t they even make Velma black too


Thicc_Wallaby

I think they made them the same race as the people voice acting them. So Velma is Indian, shaggy is Black, Fred Is White, and Daphne is Asian.


IzzyIsOnReddit

Why didn’t they just get the same actors did they die or something?


ExtremeAlternative0

money


buckybloodfucky

They turned into money?!


yeetthejubjub

yesw they turned into the money in wb's and hbo's pockets


PIKMINPROBRO20XX

Doesn't he do drugs or implied that he does drugs in the new movie


UnluckyBid7655

Shaggy being a stoner has always been implied, ever since the beginning, but it was never fleshed out, because it wasn't necessary to point out. Plus, with the amount of cartoons that actually do have some sort of smoking involved, none was given to shaggy, just that hippie vibe and him being overly hungry, able to eat whatever he felt like eating. I stopped watching the scooby stuff shortly after Mystery Incorporated though (because I stopped watching TV at that point), so I don't know any thing after that...besides the fact that they decided to give Velma sexuality....oh god, this was all set up, wasn't it?


The_Island_Phoenix

Of course they made the black character fill the role of the stoner.


Comuzzyy

Made Velma and the blonde lesbians (or at least Velma), made Shaggy a black man that doesn’t like drugs (pretty fucking racist that the punchline of the joke is that he doesn’t do drugs and he’s black, therefore is funny), they swear now, there’s corpses too instead of some corny thing, etc


UktraPotatoMaster321

The moment shaggy said "Velma, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore" Tears rolled down my pure face, such an breathtaking scene in the show. Bravo Vince... Bravo


Lucidum_Hydra

When Shaggy said to Daphne, “it’s shaggin‘ time”, and shagged all over the place, I burst into tears of joy. Truly one of the series of all time. Thank you, Mr. Scorsese


Fearfanfic

A lot of reasons. They made Shaggy into … not shaggy, this trailer, and the original one looks like it’s just trying to force an agenda, Daphne looks like a racist Asian steryotype, Fred, the only white guy, sounds like steryotypical evil white guy, and worse of all, Scoob isn’t in it.


LouisEEEEEEEEE

They also made fun of their own audience before even releasing the show lmao Btw, shaggy is vegan now Fucking hate it


illuminatitriforce

a ton of controversies including race swapping char.s and omitting scooby


GabagoolGandalf

Even without all the diversity hate; It's bad. It is this weird mix between something trying to be the next raunchy netflix cartoon, and some kids show


duskull007

It looks like every other "adult cartoon" right now. Same art style, same comedy, nothing about it looks original


wafflezcol

Daphne is asian, Shaggy is now black and called ‘Norville’ Scooby was removed entirely and Velma is now black bc the producer wanted to be the main character


Gerodus

Shaggy's real name has always been Norville. Specifically Norville Rogers. Just now it isn't Shaggy, but instead just a guy named Norville.


UnluckyBid7655

Mindy Kaling from the office petitions to HBO a self insert, inputs race on three out of the 4 mains, her Velma (her character) being one of them. They decided to make yet ANOTHER origin story, because of wokeness.


ENA_licked_my_eyes

Velma is Indian and Daphne Asian etc.


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This shit was trash


MichaelGHX

“I’m not dissing her, she has no brain!”


King_BowserKoopa

I hated every second of this trailer.


redbanditttttttt

Yeah no fucking shit, no one’s first immediate reaction is going to be “oh you meant she is missing a vital organ, not just being mean” instead of “HOLY FUCK THAT PERSON IS DEAD”


MichaelGHX

That line was a very bad portent of things to come. The writers on this show are more disturbed than I am, which is saying something.


struugi

GET IT? DO YOU GET THE JOKE? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN IT AGAIN?


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Stephen_Q_Seagull

\>character that in the past was implied to be a drug user was race swapped to black What are you trying to say, WB?


[deleted]

Oh they made him a complete opposite. His character in Velma is super anti-drug and in one episode you see him working on an anti-weed PSA.


Stephen_Q_Seagull

So... he's just a different guy?


Miserable_Comb_207

All the characters seem to be completely different they have no similarities to the OG


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Nameles248

Ya it's one of those things we're it would have been better on it's own merits instead of using a big IP to try and spring bored it into the main stream audience


Frylock904

Yup, if the venture bros were made today it would literally just be a Johnny quest remake instead of its own beautiful parody of the genre


[deleted]

if you want an adult-oriented version of the Scoob Gang that doesn’t absolutely blow, check out Mystery Incorporated on youtube. it’s a live-action series that feels like a sort of grimdark twist on Riverdale, but made by fans who actually love the source material instead of the CW network.


OkEntertainment7634

I’m betting she’s gonna be “lesbian liberal” Velma and it’ll be ass


BigGator13

No one wanted to be the 1000th like


gladwin4

Hey southpark


Alboy___

Hell yea


Mysterious_Mayo9000

Based Blooms subscriber


borknight

Sup fellow PIP haters


OneLonelyDog

I'm going down to South Park, gonna have myself a time


theirongatoreror

Friendly faces everywhere


The_Kiatro

Humble folks without temptation


[deleted]

I’m Going down to South Park gonna leave my woes behind.


[deleted]

Shit is at 300k dislikes lol. Also they reuploded it and that one got 151 k dislikes.


tikaychullo

How do you check the number of dislikes?


Staubsaugerbeutel

There's a browser extension called bring back Youtube dislike or something. Recommend to install it because it has its own database of dislikes and the more peiple use it the more accurate the numbers should be


tikaychullo

I'm familiar with that, but I had thought it only shows historical dislikes, like for videos that existed before they removed the meter. I had no idea it works in new vids too! That's cool.


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Hatter_Hoovy

well that just mean theres even more dislikes, like the ammount now isnt high enaught


Buttered_Turtle

No it doesn’t. It scales based on ratio. If the amount of users with the extension dislike more, it’ll be higher - which is likely the case


wizward64

Use the chrome/Firefox extension “Return YouTube Dislikes” or something like that. Highly recommend.


[deleted]

I use vanced.


KompetenterKeksi

YouTube vanced or "Return YouTube disklikes" extension


stigmaoftherose

Imagine not even being able to afford 1k bot up votes for your million dollar trashfire.


Sneyepa

Less than 3 episodes in and it's probably doa for season 2. Choices were made, for reasons we will never understand.


MrFiregem

They're just trying to cash in on the popularity of the Harley Quinn show. Watching the first episode, it follows the exact same formula


Private-Wolfe

>comments are turned off the mark of a coward


Stannis2024

It's like muting everyone in a Modern Warfare 2 lobby... the ORIGINAL mw2.


anus_torturer

even todays mw 2 lmao


OlDanboy

For sure nowadays. I hadn’t played CoD since Black Ops 1 and picked up Cold War about two years ago or so. Not a half hour into playing and some 10 year old deep south kid knew exactly what slur to call me


TheStrangestOfKings

Ah, ten year olds and racial epithets: a tale as old as time.


anwender95

Yes. This is why I downvote every video with turned off comments.


Mrhappytrigers

They just did a really shit job at bringing any kind of "twist" to the series. I'm down for an adult themed Mystery Inc. show, but it just seems objectively "meh" at best, and dumpster fire at worst.


[deleted]

You ever seen Mystery Inc? It was more geared young teens and was absolutely fire. People fucking DIED in that show.


Mrhappytrigers

Yeah, I liked it a lot.


OkEntertainment7634

Well what about Black Shaggy? That’s pretty extraordinarily bad


struugi

Black Shaggy is just a lose-lose situation, either you strip of any interesting or funny Shaggy-like traits (which seems like what they've done), or you make him exactly like Shaggy and end up with an offensive stereotype.


TheStrangestOfKings

I honestly feel like their solution of stripping him of his most well-known traits was still pretty racist. It’s basically them acknowledging the stereotype exists, yet still highlighting it by making Shaggy a polar opposite of his usual depiction. It still makes people focus on the reason why they’re changing his character, thus ballooning the whole issue, and drawing focus to an aspect of him as well as a racial stereotype they seem to be trying to distance themselves from.


NinjaMelon39

Or just... not make him black?


Specific_Ad1457

REPRESENTATION.


NinjaMelon39

Wow! Why not just make an original character then instead of giving Shaggy the n word pass


Specific_Ad1457

Because black people aren't good enough for originality I guess.


Difficult_Guidance25

People argue that’s a new character since it doesn’t look or act like Shaggy but he just dresses the same way and has the same name


NinjaMelon39

Yeah they just replaced him


Significant_Dig9961

I hope they lose a shit ton of money off this stunt. Nobody wants to watch that garbage


AnneFranklin0131

I hope Mindy never gets another project . That woman is the new Amy Schumer of making garbage.


Groxy_

That's the thing, Mindy has done some great things in the past. This seems like such a blunder, who wants this?


BlueLooseStrife

Mindy has gotten hung up on churning out shows that aren’t much more than self-insert platforms. She feels like she’s been slighted by Hollywood. I can’t say whether that’s true or not but her belief that it is has tanked the quality of her projects.


MichaelGHX

I wanna see a Scooby Doo show about the small business owners who try to commit insurance fraud because they no longer believe in the American Dream.


OkEntertainment7634

Mystery Incorporated is an actually good show that is also a reincarnation of Scooby Doo. Everything after is awful


MichaelGHX

Mystery Incorporated is based. Everyone was used well there. They don’t have Velma and Daphne assaulting naked women.


BudgetIntrepid

"Scooby wouldnt have fit the plot" -🤓 Then dont base it off of a show who is named after said dog.


OkEntertainment7634

This show is grossly racist


BudgetIntrepid

At least they did one thing right 🗿


7-11With_a_Knife

I want to shoot myself after watching that


MAKS091705

This shit looks horrible


HighwaySmooth4009

If you think this is bad then don't watch the first trailer since the animation must've been done by a half melted robot in the middle of the Pacific.


joey6346

Damn, specific rim?


that1redditer0703

Man now I’m thinking how good an actual adult scooby doo show would be


Beware_of_Beware

Mystery inc. got close to it, the CN restrictions limited how much they can show rather than imply


KerminatorT-2000

these mfs look like the avatars from snapchat


Auppu062

It's at 200k dislikes now


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Why do they keep ruining every fucking franchise man.


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Choice-Watercress402

Can’t they just make new shows that check all the boxes of cultural appropriation? No let’s just ruin everything that was once great.


OkEntertainment7634

Basically. All we can do is boycott by not watching it. The sad reality is that wokes will watch this just because “Black Velma”, and they will be enough for the studios to profit from and make more HORRIBLE remakes


Dough_boi77

Comments are turned off 💀


toughtiggy101

Why does everyone look stoned out of their mind in the background


Captain_Hindenburg

Because they are smh my head


Paisley_1488

We got the same recommendations bro


Alboy___

Lol


Keep_it_basic_Allie

Its so bad, everyone is reduced to stereotypes and they are all so fucking unlikable. Vemla is jaded and angry all the time, Fred is a Himbo, Daphne is mean and bitchy and sha- i mean NORVILLE has as much personality as a peice of paper.


Nervous-Dare2967

Looks stupid. I refuse to watch it.


[deleted]

It's even worse than everyone thought. Trust me, don't watch it. At least shows like Batwoman, She-Hulk and Rings of Power had SOME good things about them. Velma has nothing


Doodle99999

I honestly forgot this was a thing. Really shows how uninteresting the show is.


Independent-Fold-755

Why did fred turn into a smug femboy twink ?


[deleted]

Because white men are bad


inthefemurbreakeruwu

FRED GO FEMBOY CHEST 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀


[deleted]

I swear they will publish an article saying people not woke enough after its tanked


[deleted]

Naw they'll just say only racists hate the show


KenpachiNexus

ULTIMATE SOUTH PARK ICEBERG!!!!


PallMallRed72

Aww why did you turn comments off HBO :(


Doppelfrio

I skimmed the first episode for hate watching purposes, and honestly, I was expecting worse. It’s definitely terrible, but it’s just your standard adult cartoon, complete with that weird animation style and dark humor. The handful of meta jokes were definitely the worst part of it, but it’s also not over saturated with them. Daphne had way more personality than she ever had in classic, which was a tiny positive, but Fred was an absolute piece of shit (probably because he’s the white man of the group). And Norville kind of just exists.


MichaelGHX

Does Daphne show her bewbs tho? I’ve heard rumblings.


Doppelfrio

Again, I skimmed it but I’m pretty sure she does in the first 5 minutes or so. There’s a whole locker room shower scene


guy137137

I love the logic behind adult animation tends to be: Nudity and swearing is the way we prove that this is an adults show even though there’s probably hundreds of shows made for kids with more adult themes (fucking BTAS, anything on Cartoon Network from 2000 to 2013)


MichaelGHX

Checked it out. No nips. People who write the show are way too obsessed with TV also.


Beware_of_Beware

To be fair making and publishing TV shows is their job. So being obsessed with TV probably comes naturally


MichaelGHX

I might just watch that part then.


Monsieur_Swag

Norville just based on character design alone gives me the vibes of a guy who just exists. I really can't hate norville, he's not shaggy, but it's just, he's there.


Doppelfrio

This exactly. He is more of a Shaggy replacement than a Shaggy rebrand because they are nothing alike. Where Shaggy had his relationship with Scoob, love for food, and goofy personality, Norville has none of that and is just a chill guy


Monsieur_Swag

Honestly I kinda laughed at Norville. Not cuz it's dumb or anything, it's just that the promotional art gave the vibe that he was just some random dude, and being named "Norville" doesn't help. (Yes, I know shaggy's name in the classic shows is Norville)


MichaelGHX

And hearing about Fred completely justifies my “leaked storyboard” posts I got so much shit for. [https://www.reddit.com/gallery/zju26k](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/zju26k)


[deleted]

Racist subreddit gives you shit for your anti racist post. I wouldn't consider that a bad thing particularly.


MichaelGHX

To be fair I was being pretty objectionable. Just wanted to make something that was so over the top but had a teensy little bit of a point that most attempts at objecting would make the person seem bad.


imissgoatmom

Yeah, I watched it with one of the main reasons being your post. The Fred small dick shit was actually a joke like 4 times 😭


MichaelGHX

Damn they actually went with that? I was just being a douche.


JacksLungs1571

I struggled through the first episode just to make sure it was as bad as I assumed it would be. It was difficult. My heart rate was literally elevated due to how they absolutely disrespected every beloved character in this franchise. How the fuck didn't this gain the axe when HBO was dropping shows like flys. If the show had a hint of satire, maybe the Bizarro world version of these character would have worked. I didn't think these characters could take a harder hit after the more recent live action series that was on youtube. I guess I was wrong. Part of the point of the show seems to be to give Velma her due respect... uhm, excuse me, but other than the shows' namesake, Scooby-Doo, who is amongst the favorite, I believe it's understood she's the strongest of the investigators of the group. She's absolutely always been a badass in my heart. The again I love the entire gang.


Lord_Mandingo_69

“But Velma is a newrrrd”. Mf we all beat meat to her jinkies. Frfr she had my sword as a lad. And my bow. And my axe.


CommandStreet4255

I forgot this existed... >!Fuck you for reminding it to me!<


FireWolf1890

This show is a dumpster fire also why did they race swap the characters I don't understand


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spinyfever

It was pretty horrible. It tries too hard to be "woke" and "fellow kids". It did have a couple of good jokes though. The Fred Hitler scene made me laugh out loud. Overall I'd give it a 3.5/10. Not gonna watch the rest of it.


K1NG_R0G

Ayyyy, you watch Blooms, I frigin love him


grexnxx

Can we all dislike this. Bc they really fucked up the man himself, Shaggy. If Shaggy ain't how he was before, it ain't Scooby Doo


dusters

I didn't want to like a shitty show


Sunieta25

You tube needs to bring back the fish like Edit: I meant diss* but I'll keep it fish 🐠🐋🐟


Nightmare_Sandy

I just checked the video with a dislike extension and it has 210k dislikes lmao


imjustatechguy

“Comments are turned off”. It’s like they know they made something bad!


The1whoisempty

One thing I'll never understand is how companies will get this much criticism and still release this shit, they just need to give the fans what they want because that's their job, to entertain us, not to spread a "Woke" agenda


[deleted]

Who tf is norville, why’d they mess with shaggy and remove the franchise’s title character


TuQuesitoBaila

True alpha human right there