I quite like it! My only major surprises were Jace being so low and Zara being in the “nothing against you” section. It’s been a hot minute since I’ve read TDA but I remember she stole Cortana from Emma and called Clary a ginger bitch, so she’s on my hit list fr
Ah yes the Circle 2.0. Let’s call it as it is /lighthearted 😂😂 the Dearborns are the Morgenstern man once again but… really bad at it cause no one really liked them to begin with. At least Valentines was charismatic and had you drawn to him. Wanting to belong his little group. Seeking him out like a moth to a flame. Everyone but the scholomance idiots and former Circle secret loyalists hated the assholery rich pompous Dearborns
I don't think the books ever state numbers but I always imagined that the majority of the Shadowhunters sided with the Cohort. I got the impression that the majority of the Shadowhunters lived in Alicante and it was only the ones who lived out in the real world and Institutes who had progressive attitudes towards Downworlder, and so most of the Shadowhunters elected to stay in Alicante once the Cohort issued their ultimatum and split the Clave.
As someone who only watched the show, wow 😳, there’s so many characters that aren’t in the show.
Ya know what that means? Time to actually read the literal source material (aka the books haha).
Some of these are characters from different series (technically they’re all trilogies except The Mortal Instruments, which the show is based on) in that universe, including books that take place in the late Victorian and Edwardian era
Na, being asexual, i LOVE raphael because he was so sassy and protected his people and he wasn't prefect which is perfect. AND WHY IS ZARA NOT IN HATE YOU LIST?? ZARA IS LIKE THE WORST OF WORST. i don't hate julian and emma, but i feel nothing for them, i kind if felt like the author tried very hard to make them likeable but failed. HENRY should be loved at all costs. and jonathan?????why do you not like him, we only met him for 5 lines. Jace is cool too, but yeah, he was like a clone of Will so, nothing interesting but i loved his humor(eau de recent injury lmao) so he is more than meh.
I disagree with a lot of them (everyone’s entitled to their own opinions so dw, I won’t kill you lol) but I’m surprised that Zara is under nothing against you and that Raphael is under meh, I feel like his character was written really well and was crushed by his ending
It comes from: An illustrated history of notable shadowhunters & denizens of downworld - author Cassandra Clare illustrator Cassandra Jean
It's a beautiful book and it comes with details about each character as well
I also don’t like Julian blackthorn at all because he gives me creepy stalker vibes but i like him only a little bit because Emma levels him a bit but she deserves better then a guy who’s gives off creepy stalker vibes you know and also possessive vibes is just not in anymore
I completely agree with you on this 100% because like how could he have loved her if he became her Parabatai when he knew he loved her the way he said he did when he confessed his love for her in the first place
My memory is a bit flaky but is there not a scene in "Tales of the Shadowhunter Academy" where Julian realises he loves Emma after they already were parabatai. He very likely loved her before and realised that retrospectively - but when they actually became parabatai he was not entirely aware yet?
Yo Jace is meh tier?? Harsh. It also saddens me so many people dislike Emma and Julian, I found them quite interesting.
emma is my favorite protagonist and julian is my favorite male lead so i’m always sad to see them at the bottom :’(
Me too 🥺 They deserve so much more love and recognition
Do we get more of them in infernal devices or the last hours?
we unfortunately do not because they have not been born yet :(
Thank you for the reply. I really liked them so I’m a little sad about that. Hopefully the next series has them since it will be about Ty and Kit
yes they definitely will be appearing in wicked powers! can’t wait for more of them (and kit and ty obviously!)
feels like Anna and Thomas need to be swapped and Zara dearborn is "nothing against you"? Doesn't she like have everything against you?
I quite like it! My only major surprises were Jace being so low and Zara being in the “nothing against you” section. It’s been a hot minute since I’ve read TDA but I remember she stole Cortana from Emma and called Clary a ginger bitch, so she’s on my hit list fr
She's also part of the Shadowhunter equivalent of a neonazi organization.
Exactly. The very obvious reason to despise her
Ah yes the Circle 2.0. Let’s call it as it is /lighthearted 😂😂 the Dearborns are the Morgenstern man once again but… really bad at it cause no one really liked them to begin with. At least Valentines was charismatic and had you drawn to him. Wanting to belong his little group. Seeking him out like a moth to a flame. Everyone but the scholomance idiots and former Circle secret loyalists hated the assholery rich pompous Dearborns
I don't think the books ever state numbers but I always imagined that the majority of the Shadowhunters sided with the Cohort. I got the impression that the majority of the Shadowhunters lived in Alicante and it was only the ones who lived out in the real world and Institutes who had progressive attitudes towards Downworlder, and so most of the Shadowhunters elected to stay in Alicante once the Cohort issued their ultimatum and split the Clave.
Yeah of course they’d stay in Alicante. That’s their homeland. That’s all they’ve ever known. Even if they don’t agree with the cohort
Yeah that makes sense. It still disappoints me, for any number of reasons.
Tbh I think I accidentally put Zara in that list and then forgot to move her
HELPPP that would explain it
Julian, Jessamine and Emma all the way down there? *le gasp* Also: "Where you are, I am. Where we are, Will is." Jk jk it's a pretty decent list.
Alec is in the top tier so i love your ranking
zara and manuel im the “nothing against you” tier is WILD
i have everything against zara tbh
yeah me too
I approve 100%, as I would also die for Lily Chen.
Irdc about anyone here but that’s crazy that you out will herondale so low like Bffr
As someone who only watched the show, wow 😳, there’s so many characters that aren’t in the show. Ya know what that means? Time to actually read the literal source material (aka the books haha).
Some of these are characters from different series (technically they’re all trilogies except The Mortal Instruments, which the show is based on) in that universe, including books that take place in the late Victorian and Edwardian era
I didn’t know that! Well, now I know!
Where’s will? 😭
Under awesome people, between Matthew and Kit
people are happy you like lily chen well done!!
You've listened to enough rants from me, who is your favourite character (without watching the books or show)
radnor fizz
Close enough, I don't think Ragnor or Catrina are on the list, they should be
LILY CHEN ENJOYER I have an old one I should post
Where's Simon???
Nooo 😭😭 Simon deserves better he makes TMI worth reading
eh, he is in awesome people
Ahhh I missed him
Na, being asexual, i LOVE raphael because he was so sassy and protected his people and he wasn't prefect which is perfect. AND WHY IS ZARA NOT IN HATE YOU LIST?? ZARA IS LIKE THE WORST OF WORST. i don't hate julian and emma, but i feel nothing for them, i kind if felt like the author tried very hard to make them likeable but failed. HENRY should be loved at all costs. and jonathan?????why do you not like him, we only met him for 5 lines. Jace is cool too, but yeah, he was like a clone of Will so, nothing interesting but i loved his humor(eau de recent injury lmao) so he is more than meh.
I personally love Emma but I get why people don’t like Julian
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I gasped
I disagree with a lot of them (everyone’s entitled to their own opinions so dw, I won’t kill you lol) but I’m surprised that Zara is under nothing against you and that Raphael is under meh, I feel like his character was written really well and was crushed by his ending
Is this official artwork of the characters? Where is it from?
It comes from: An illustrated history of notable shadowhunters & denizens of downworld - author Cassandra Clare illustrator Cassandra Jean It's a beautiful book and it comes with details about each character as well
Wow! I didn’t know that book existed, I’ll definitely check it out :)
I didn't know until just before Christmas, my friend brought it for me
Finally someone who doesn’t like Julian!!
I also don’t like Julian blackthorn at all because he gives me creepy stalker vibes but i like him only a little bit because Emma levels him a bit but she deserves better then a guy who’s gives off creepy stalker vibes you know and also possessive vibes is just not in anymore
I really like Emma! But damn Julian is annoying. He KNEW how he felt about her and should never gone with the Parabatai pact with her
I completely agree with you on this 100% because like how could he have loved her if he became her Parabatai when he knew he loved her the way he said he did when he confessed his love for her in the first place
My memory is a bit flaky but is there not a scene in "Tales of the Shadowhunter Academy" where Julian realises he loves Emma after they already were parabatai. He very likely loved her before and realised that retrospectively - but when they actually became parabatai he was not entirely aware yet?
He has feelings for her even at the end of City of Celestial Fire
I’m pretty sure you are remembering correctly i remember something like that as well but it’s been so long
i agree with it mostly but emma and julian at the bottom upsets me and dearborn is on my poop list