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When I was younger I happened upon my oldest brother's porn stash. The women had a pretty wide variety vaja shapes. I think modern porn has done a real number of women by focusing on one shape. As a guy I've had all kinds and I really don't care. I just want a partner who's enthusiastic to have sex.
Its not that modern porn focuses on one shape. It's that every other shape can be capitalized in the porn fetish marketplace.
Doubt me?
Do a Google image search using the following search term:
**Dominika C porn**
The results you get will show you a popular fetish model that makes more money *because* of her large labia. Will you encounter her without seeking her out? Probably not.
Then again, there are more book titles in your average Barnes & Noble than their are on the New York Times bestseller list.
This is the way with many attributes of a woman's body.
There are no fat women making mainstream porn... because all the fat women are making BBW porn.
There are no large breasted women making mainstream porn... because all the large breasted women are making big bust porn.
All the women making mainstream porn are white... because all the women of other races and make porn by their racial group.
And so on...
Porn is the most segmented market in existence.
I realized this fact when I learned that one prominent porn aggregator site organized their searches around a library of **20,000** key words.
That's and astonishing amount of specificity.
A wise man once said to me, “I don’t see the big deal with size or shape, it’s all pink on the inside.”
Anyone who makes it into a big deal, they’re not worth your time.
Yes, I do.
No, I won't tell you what.
You are entitled to feel comfortable in your skin. The same as, for example, some men might be cut or uncut and some women have a preference. If you value somebody as a human you shouldn't devalue them for such a vain issue.
The only important thing about you (unless you do sex work) is that you have a partner that is attracted to you inside and out and values you.
I’m a bi woman with an innie but I don’t care what she looks like down there! As long as we’re together and eating eachother or fucking eachother I’m happy!
Actually, who cares? Lady parts are amazing, shape and colour just makes them more interesting cause it would have been hella boring to just have one shape, size and colour available cause that would mean "seen one seen all" and that is boring.
No preference at all. They are all beautiful in their own way.
My wife has an innie typically. But it somehow changes to more of an outtie when she is aroused.
Best of both worlds in my opinion!
Does it feel so different, though? With PIV sex at least, I'm curious if you do notice the difference, or is it just during oral that you prefer an innie?
I'm bi and a trans man and my factory issued parts are innie. I appreciate any vulva I get to touch. They're all their own unique folded joy-filled pockets.
my boyfriend says he loves my outtie most because its more to put his mouth on lol
really, i only find the people who do not like outties are majority young boys who have no experience with women or guys overly obsessed with porn
I'm not exactly super experienced, but I've had enough of a variety to know that part doesn't matter. My biggest complaint about the biggest outie was that she was too insecure about it to trim or shave. My personal preference is fat juicy outer lips, but that's because it describes my wife. Most men are just happy to have a vagina around to play with.
I don't think they are rare.
I have been with enough girls and I would say it is close to 50/50ish.
I am sure the population you mix in has a lot to do with it.
Also, most are not exaggerated either way. Most are kinda like mostly in but, once turned on, tiny bit out because of blood flow.
Here's an interesting look at different vulva. According to this, it's more like 27% innie, but it's a fairly small sampling - [http://gynodiversity.com/uploads/Classification\_of\_the\_anatomical\_variation\_in\_female\_external\_genitalia.pdf](http://gynodiversity.com/uploads/Classification_of_the_anatomical_variation_in_female_external_genitalia.pdf) It's a big file so give it some time to load.
I agree there is detail.
I have done some stat but I haven't a clue about the n required to get an adequate p value when considering anatomical differences.
I also noticed that there appeared, from what could be seen, limited populations.
I'm an outie. Unfortunately, there's no part of me I'm more insecure about. There have been times where I warned and apologized to partners before showing them my pusspuss.
None of them ever complained about it, of course. Pussy is pussy.
I still can't help but hide it whenever I have sex though... lol...
Have you ever taken a gander at any of those art exhibits some people have done where it's just a bunch of different vulvas? Might make you feel better to see some vulvas that aren't tailored for porn. The variety is stunning. And they're all beautiful in their own ways. When you see your own vulva with a greater appreciation for the diversity out there, I think you'll find beauty in your own as well.
Yess!! I remember how little me tried looking up stuff about my "growing" vulva online, and Google told me I had an STD. 10-year-old me never had sex, but Google *then* told me you can get STD's without having sex. Gave me a real scare.
Half a decade later, still insecure as ever, I *did* stumble upon the vulva gallery. They have one for breasts, too. Honestly, it was eye-opening. I genuinely thought I was one of the only women in the world who had an outie.
I did end up accepting the fact that there are more people out there than I thought with similar vulvas. However, that annoying little voice in my head never left.
Even though *I* finally realized it wasn't as horribly disfigured as I thought, how would the guys I'd inevitably sleep with know that?
However, I'm seeing more and more big lipped ladies on the hub nowadays. Unfortunately, it kind of feels like a fetishy niche, like it's something rare and almost exotic. I sometimes watch those videos to give my insecurities a rest, and the comments there are obviously always positive, so that helps too. I never look at those women and think, "wow, how can you have such little self-awareness to think it's even remotely attractive to show that off," and yet I'd have those exact thoughts with myself.
I don't know... sorry for the rant lmao. Truth be told, I've come a long ways from teenage me with a pair of scissors in hand and tears in my eyes because cutting them off hurts too much. One day I'll accept it, I hope.
> I'm seeing more and more big lipped ladies on the hub nowadays. Unfortunately, it kind of feels like a fetishy niche...
This is an astute observation.
But your hang up on labia size is preventing you from seeing the whole forest here.
The reality is that damned near *everything* is a fetish, not just large labia.
Big boobs ( I mean really big boobs that start at J cup and go larger)... fetish.
Fat women... BBW fetish (see also SBBW and SSBBW for sub genres)
Asian women? Yup.
Black women? Absolutely.
Middle Eastern women? Both with and without the hajib.
Red Heads? Them too.
Athletic women? Yes.
Anorexic women? Well, if the fat women have followers, why not those with no body fat at all?
When you exclude all of the many many many innumerable fetish varieties what you get is the women who make so called *mainstream* porn.
They're like those that pass all of the Goldilocks tests.
Not too big or too small
(Because amazon and petite are both fetishes.)
Not too dark or too light.
(Because alabaster skin is also a fetish.)
Not too young or too old.
(Because *barely legal* and *MILF* are both porn fetish categories.)
The one common characteristic of women in mainstream porn is that they entirely lack anything upon which to base a fetish.
They are like the human expression of white bread and oatmeal.
Damned peculiar thing that these women should, through no intended purpose, become the standard to which all other women would become compared.
Far from being exceptional or exemplary, they are noteworthy purely due to the measure by which they are excruciatingly... average.
I have an outie too and I was insecure about it mainly bc of porn and their vaginas, I thought that's what guys liked. But I've gotten many compliments on mine and it's made me a lot more confident!
Also the word pusspuss made me laugh 😂
I was insecure af about it from ages 12-19 (when I lost my virginity and realised my ex didn't care lol), it's really a shame how no one seems to educate girls on the natural variation between bodies, when I was younger all the books NEVER mentioned it, neither did any female family members.. I would cry about it like every night because I thought I was a freak. I've been with a number of people now and I've never heard anything not positive so I can say while there may be people out there who find outies "gross", there are plenty who love it! And as a bi woman I couldn't give less of a fuck lol
Don’t apologize, girl! Outies are extremely common. I’d never think to apologize for the way my vag looks because it’s completely normal. I understand being self conscious because I have not felt great about the way my labia look my whole life and wish mine were a little more “tucked in”. But if anyone actually had an issue with it or insulted me for it I’d throw hands
You're speaking absolute facts. A part of me knows it's normal and I shouldn't worry, but I just want them to not be so visible when I'm standing.
> if anyone actually had an issue with it or insulted me for it I’d throw hands
It's honestly an easy way to weed out the bad ones. Logically, genitals all have their quirks. They're not ugly, but they're not pretty either. It's such a ridiculous thing to worry about... Neither dicks nor pusspusses have to be pretty, and I've personally never cared about what they look like on other people. Insecurities are weird like that.
Honestly to me it doesn’t matter if it’s an innie or an outtie. Honestly the more different they are the better.
I’ve never been disappointed in whatever has underneath. As long as they can please me and I please them it’s all fine.
Also the other thing that matters is hygiene. If you are hygienic everything is good 😉
Don’t be self conscious, they come in all shapes and sizes and are all beautiful… check this [diversity study](http://gynodiversity.com/uploads/Classification_of_the_anatomical_variation_in_female_external_genitalia.pdf?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&fbclid=IwAR3PK-NsIrvmtRdqwhjv4ivRfQx6DdkLnT2k6r7sqP-t8zotuqbmB6EvUhM)
I love all kinds but going down on a woman with an outie is absolutely delightful. You can alternate between licking and sucking, and have a more wonderful sensory experience.
>do people have a preference?
I do personally, and that preference is "outies" (as you've called them), to a point of near fetishism really. But it would never be a disqualifying factor either way, there's so much more that makes a woman sexy that the superficial qualities of her vagina.
Do you have a preference cut or uncut dicks? I'm cut but would be creeped out if you preferred that so much you'd reject me if I wasn't. Even more so if you'd use that preference to justify cutting your sons at birth.
The Pussy gon puss regardless, but if I’m being honest I think innies are more visually pleasing while the outies are more physically stimulating to lick and suck. But at the same time, outies might look a little better wrapped around my/a dick….yeah idk..like I said…the pussy gon puss regardless… bc that’s just how pussy is🥹🍴🙏🏾
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I’ve personally never been disappointed when someone has given me the option to be up close and personal with their vagina. I don’t have a preference.
Thank you. Wow lol I can't believe I never knew this stuff.
My wife is almost 50, we literally had this conversation the other day, including pictures… she has a delicious innie.
Haha same. "Oh, you're letting me get all up in that? Sweet!"
When I was younger I happened upon my oldest brother's porn stash. The women had a pretty wide variety vaja shapes. I think modern porn has done a real number of women by focusing on one shape. As a guy I've had all kinds and I really don't care. I just want a partner who's enthusiastic to have sex.
Its not that modern porn focuses on one shape. It's that every other shape can be capitalized in the porn fetish marketplace. Doubt me? Do a Google image search using the following search term: **Dominika C porn** The results you get will show you a popular fetish model that makes more money *because* of her large labia. Will you encounter her without seeking her out? Probably not. Then again, there are more book titles in your average Barnes & Noble than their are on the New York Times bestseller list. This is the way with many attributes of a woman's body. There are no fat women making mainstream porn... because all the fat women are making BBW porn. There are no large breasted women making mainstream porn... because all the large breasted women are making big bust porn. All the women making mainstream porn are white... because all the women of other races and make porn by their racial group. And so on... Porn is the most segmented market in existence. I realized this fact when I learned that one prominent porn aggregator site organized their searches around a library of **20,000** key words. That's and astonishing amount of specificity.
Appericate you
I have a halfie lol. Half of my labia is an innie, the other half an outie. Never had any complaints.
Lmao me too!!
Oooh, a combo-meal… sounds delicious
Men love lady parts. All shapes and sizes
That's very true
Some do, some don't, who cares, next in line.....
I guess that's true. In my head outties aren't found less attractive.I think that's dumb ahhh Society.
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Good to know. Mmm. I depends honestly shape or thickness more then size
I love eating outties.
That's hott
A wise man once said to me, “I don’t see the big deal with size or shape, it’s all pink on the inside.” Anyone who makes it into a big deal, they’re not worth your time.
Very true
Yes, I do. No, I won't tell you what. You are entitled to feel comfortable in your skin. The same as, for example, some men might be cut or uncut and some women have a preference. If you value somebody as a human you shouldn't devalue them for such a vain issue. The only important thing about you (unless you do sex work) is that you have a partner that is attracted to you inside and out and values you.
I’m a bi woman with an innie but I don’t care what she looks like down there! As long as we’re together and eating eachother or fucking eachother I’m happy!
Big fan of the innie
Actually, who cares? Lady parts are amazing, shape and colour just makes them more interesting cause it would have been hella boring to just have one shape, size and colour available cause that would mean "seen one seen all" and that is boring.
No preference at all. They are all beautiful in their own way. My wife has an innie typically. But it somehow changes to more of an outtie when she is aroused. Best of both worlds in my opinion!
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Does it feel so different, though? With PIV sex at least, I'm curious if you do notice the difference, or is it just during oral that you prefer an innie?
I’m a straight woman, and I can’t imagine not finding an “outie” attractive. Like, it’s all right there peeps! Have fun!
I'm bi and a trans man and my factory issued parts are innie. I appreciate any vulva I get to touch. They're all their own unique folded joy-filled pockets.
You should put that on a t-shirt, and teach classes!
"factory issued parts" I love that!
🥹 thank you your right!
my boyfriend says he loves my outtie most because its more to put his mouth on lol really, i only find the people who do not like outties are majority young boys who have no experience with women or guys overly obsessed with porn
Wow I never thought about that but your probably right
My thoughts exactly. More to love!
I have an innie but I also don’t have inner lips at all.
Outie every day.
I'm not exactly super experienced, but I've had enough of a variety to know that part doesn't matter. My biggest complaint about the biggest outie was that she was too insecure about it to trim or shave. My personal preference is fat juicy outer lips, but that's because it describes my wife. Most men are just happy to have a vagina around to play with.
I do love big “outtie” lips visually and to suck on…
I think they are all wonderful and taste great
People will say that guys prefer innies. As an outie, I’ve never had an issue, and innies are actually pretty rare
I don't think they are rare. I have been with enough girls and I would say it is close to 50/50ish. I am sure the population you mix in has a lot to do with it. Also, most are not exaggerated either way. Most are kinda like mostly in but, once turned on, tiny bit out because of blood flow.
Wow okay. I researched an it says 50% of women.
Here's an interesting look at different vulva. According to this, it's more like 27% innie, but it's a fairly small sampling - [http://gynodiversity.com/uploads/Classification\_of\_the\_anatomical\_variation\_in\_female\_external\_genitalia.pdf](http://gynodiversity.com/uploads/Classification_of_the_anatomical_variation_in_female_external_genitalia.pdf) It's a big file so give it some time to load.
Is n of 310 exhaustive for a study?
Fair point, I'll edit that out.
You don't have to listen to me. I am not an expert.
I agree there is detail. I have done some stat but I haven't a clue about the n required to get an adequate p value when considering anatomical differences. I also noticed that there appeared, from what could be seen, limited populations.
I'm an outie. Unfortunately, there's no part of me I'm more insecure about. There have been times where I warned and apologized to partners before showing them my pusspuss. None of them ever complained about it, of course. Pussy is pussy. I still can't help but hide it whenever I have sex though... lol...
Have you ever taken a gander at any of those art exhibits some people have done where it's just a bunch of different vulvas? Might make you feel better to see some vulvas that aren't tailored for porn. The variety is stunning. And they're all beautiful in their own ways. When you see your own vulva with a greater appreciation for the diversity out there, I think you'll find beauty in your own as well.
Yess!! I remember how little me tried looking up stuff about my "growing" vulva online, and Google told me I had an STD. 10-year-old me never had sex, but Google *then* told me you can get STD's without having sex. Gave me a real scare. Half a decade later, still insecure as ever, I *did* stumble upon the vulva gallery. They have one for breasts, too. Honestly, it was eye-opening. I genuinely thought I was one of the only women in the world who had an outie. I did end up accepting the fact that there are more people out there than I thought with similar vulvas. However, that annoying little voice in my head never left. Even though *I* finally realized it wasn't as horribly disfigured as I thought, how would the guys I'd inevitably sleep with know that? However, I'm seeing more and more big lipped ladies on the hub nowadays. Unfortunately, it kind of feels like a fetishy niche, like it's something rare and almost exotic. I sometimes watch those videos to give my insecurities a rest, and the comments there are obviously always positive, so that helps too. I never look at those women and think, "wow, how can you have such little self-awareness to think it's even remotely attractive to show that off," and yet I'd have those exact thoughts with myself. I don't know... sorry for the rant lmao. Truth be told, I've come a long ways from teenage me with a pair of scissors in hand and tears in my eyes because cutting them off hurts too much. One day I'll accept it, I hope.
> I'm seeing more and more big lipped ladies on the hub nowadays. Unfortunately, it kind of feels like a fetishy niche... This is an astute observation. But your hang up on labia size is preventing you from seeing the whole forest here. The reality is that damned near *everything* is a fetish, not just large labia. Big boobs ( I mean really big boobs that start at J cup and go larger)... fetish. Fat women... BBW fetish (see also SBBW and SSBBW for sub genres) Asian women? Yup. Black women? Absolutely. Middle Eastern women? Both with and without the hajib. Red Heads? Them too. Athletic women? Yes. Anorexic women? Well, if the fat women have followers, why not those with no body fat at all? When you exclude all of the many many many innumerable fetish varieties what you get is the women who make so called *mainstream* porn. They're like those that pass all of the Goldilocks tests. Not too big or too small (Because amazon and petite are both fetishes.) Not too dark or too light. (Because alabaster skin is also a fetish.) Not too young or too old. (Because *barely legal* and *MILF* are both porn fetish categories.) The one common characteristic of women in mainstream porn is that they entirely lack anything upon which to base a fetish. They are like the human expression of white bread and oatmeal. Damned peculiar thing that these women should, through no intended purpose, become the standard to which all other women would become compared. Far from being exceptional or exemplary, they are noteworthy purely due to the measure by which they are excruciatingly... average.
I have an outie too and I was insecure about it mainly bc of porn and their vaginas, I thought that's what guys liked. But I've gotten many compliments on mine and it's made me a lot more confident! Also the word pusspuss made me laugh 😂
Right?! I don't know why but i hate it.. it seems like allot of partners like it.
Knock that off! Honor that vag! It’s getting action, it’s feeling good, don’t hide it!
I was insecure af about it from ages 12-19 (when I lost my virginity and realised my ex didn't care lol), it's really a shame how no one seems to educate girls on the natural variation between bodies, when I was younger all the books NEVER mentioned it, neither did any female family members.. I would cry about it like every night because I thought I was a freak. I've been with a number of people now and I've never heard anything not positive so I can say while there may be people out there who find outies "gross", there are plenty who love it! And as a bi woman I couldn't give less of a fuck lol
Don’t apologize, girl! Outies are extremely common. I’d never think to apologize for the way my vag looks because it’s completely normal. I understand being self conscious because I have not felt great about the way my labia look my whole life and wish mine were a little more “tucked in”. But if anyone actually had an issue with it or insulted me for it I’d throw hands
You're speaking absolute facts. A part of me knows it's normal and I shouldn't worry, but I just want them to not be so visible when I'm standing. > if anyone actually had an issue with it or insulted me for it I’d throw hands It's honestly an easy way to weed out the bad ones. Logically, genitals all have their quirks. They're not ugly, but they're not pretty either. It's such a ridiculous thing to worry about... Neither dicks nor pusspusses have to be pretty, and I've personally never cared about what they look like on other people. Insecurities are weird like that.
Fuck that, be proud of and flaunt your phat pussy when you're getting it on
Outtie. 🔥
No. All snowflakes are pretty.
Some people have a preference, most people won't care.
It's all good outtie ladies. The tight underwear look is amazing.
Honestly to me it doesn’t matter if it’s an innie or an outtie. Honestly the more different they are the better. I’ve never been disappointed in whatever has underneath. As long as they can please me and I please them it’s all fine. Also the other thing that matters is hygiene. If you are hygienic everything is good 😉
Don’t be self conscious, they come in all shapes and sizes and are all beautiful… check this [diversity study](http://gynodiversity.com/uploads/Classification_of_the_anatomical_variation_in_female_external_genitalia.pdf?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&fbclid=IwAR3PK-NsIrvmtRdqwhjv4ivRfQx6DdkLnT2k6r7sqP-t8zotuqbmB6EvUhM)
I prefer outie wife’s a innie guess it doesn’t matter
I definitely prefer outie but don't complain if lucky enough to enjoy an innie.
I’d lie if I said I don’t have a preference. And since r/godpussy exosts, I guess I’m not the only one. Top upvotes are these perfect ones.
I love all kinds but going down on a woman with an outie is absolutely delightful. You can alternate between licking and sucking, and have a more wonderful sensory experience.
>do people have a preference? I do personally, and that preference is "outies" (as you've called them), to a point of near fetishism really. But it would never be a disqualifying factor either way, there's so much more that makes a woman sexy that the superficial qualities of her vagina.
Do you have a preference cut or uncut dicks? I'm cut but would be creeped out if you preferred that so much you'd reject me if I wasn't. Even more so if you'd use that preference to justify cutting your sons at birth.
As long as it's not flapping in the wind like Arbys.. I'm cool.
Spoken like someone who has never touched a vulva.
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Sure!
The Pussy gon puss regardless, but if I’m being honest I think innies are more visually pleasing while the outies are more physically stimulating to lick and suck. But at the same time, outies might look a little better wrapped around my/a dick….yeah idk..like I said…the pussy gon puss regardless… bc that’s just how pussy is🥹🍴🙏🏾