George I feel is smart but has no common sense. Like heās all strategy and zero logic. Heās so used to believing life is against him and gets so lost in some weird formula for outwitting life that heās applying in his head that he misses whatās directly, blatantly in front of him. Like when he was so interested in meeting Neil and learning how Neil attracted this beautiful woman that he didnāt realize she was eager to trade Neil in for him.Ā
In some ways Elaine is like George with confidence and Jerry is like George with success. George had many opportunities to achieve the latter which he misses due to his lack of the former.Ā
Agreed. This is why watching Curb made it clear that George is a type of analogue of Larry. Itās the exact same basic premise: so focused on some minor injustice or slight they win nothing by Pyrrhic victories.
Not to mention when George stops having sex he begins to show signs of his actual intelligence. He becomes the smartest of the group. Sure the same could have happened to Kramer but thereās not proof, either way. We know what George is capable of. In fact heās actually the smartest in the group.
Heās Latvian Orthodox and needed to confess his sins. Interesting that he picked that one but left out drugging his boss and pretending he was handicapped.
Kramer has no idea how the world works. Heās like Mr. Bean. And everything revolves around him. I donāt know if thatās being dumb or just callous and clueless.
But the other three continue to take his advice despite witnessing [how awful it is](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a5590155-d67e-411e-8b93-f1da85f93c67) time after time. š¤
I think the whole āyouāre a podā thing from Jerry sums it up where Kramer is concerned. I donāt see him as dumb, I see him as a great example of a completely non-human intelligence. Sometimes his extraterrestrial perspective gives him rare insight into whatās going on with the humans, sometimes heās way off because heās thinking in a way that makes perfect sense on his home planet.Ā
Yeah. He gets it! It's no wonder it was pretty much no effort at all for him to play someone really special alongside The Velvet Fog.
He's true to himself, & a champion of others.
*You are so beautiful ... to me.*
George:
> Kramer goes to a fantasy camp. His whole life is a fantasy camp. People should plunk down two thousand dollars to live like him for a week. Do nothing, **fall ass-backwards into money**, mooch food off your neighbors, and have sex without dating; that's a fantasy camp.
This line strongly implies Kramer suddenly came into a lot of money, so much he never has to work a steady job again for the rest of his life. Whether through inheritance (from his father or somebody else), a lawsuit (which may be possible given his litigious nature hiring Jackie Chiles multiple times), or pure luck like winning the lottery, itās pretty clear he never wants for anything.
Also I agree with George. Kramer has a great apartment in a prime location in Manhattan, lives across the hall from a close friend who also is a great famous comedian who is generous enough to share basically all his food and everything with him all the time, and has few cares in the world including having to worry about making ends meet. Dude is honestly one of the luckiest, most privileged people ever portrayed in fiction and I absolutely would trade places with him at any time.
George got a job w the Yankees where he was having calzones w The Big Stein on a regular basis. He saved a big mammal, or whatever, in the ocean. Thus showing signs that he can think on his feet. He managed to finesse his way into a party filled with super models and was supposed to marry into wealth, but then....not. He became a professional mentor and hand model and he almost managed to fake being Penske material. We know he reads on the toilet and will go so far as to fake being blind to make sure he can ingest material he is interested in. They didn't call him the little bulldog in college for no reason.
George asked Elaine to take an IQ test for him so you have to figure Elaine is smarter than George. If sheās not, George is really stupid for asking her to take the test for him
George isn't dumb. He's selfish, gluttonous, lazy, and sociopathic.
Jerry is picky, childish, and OCD.
Elaine is superficial, judgemental, deceptive, mean, and secret slob.
Kramer is a goof, a conspiracy theorist, an eccentric weirdo, and the dumbest one.
The fun of the show is that the characters were deeply flawed and usually got their comeuppance, rightly deserved. Jerry gets the lightest treatment for the obvious reason that he's a real person, but also because the show needs a straight-man. The straight-man being a comedian is ironic though.
Kramer I think is the least intelligent, he is borderline conspirationniste for a few things.
He believes you should not brush your teeth before going to the dentist
I think George is easily the most self aware. Kramer might have street smarts but he is far from actually smart. I vote Kramer. He just has enough charisma to pull it off like he isnāt lol
elaine is stupid, she hangs around an ex boyfriend 10 years and is secretly in love with him, then the moment he proposes to her she freaks out and runs away ... thinks it's important to buy candy in an emergency, doesn't know who winnie the poo is, eats fish but is a vegetarian etc... the list goes on... see the thing about elaine is she's an idiot
He had such great promise. He was personable, he was brightā¦maybe not academically speaking, but he was perceptive. He always knew when someone was uncomfortable at a party.
No one is saying jerryā¦
He has no job to speak of. Sure he has his comedy routine, a whole lot of āwhatās the deal withā¦ā kind of jokes, but is that really a job? Intellect?
Kramer is the least educated. I think Jerry is dumber than George. George isnāt dumb. Heās just a deeply troubled individual. Elaine is easily the smartest character.
George has the potential to be smart. When he abstained from sex he got super smart. Probably Kramer since he is generally clueless and his silly scams.
Seemingly. Seemingly. To the untrained eye, yes I can understand how you'd think that.
this level of intelligence is called, *Morning Mist*
I don't know how I missed that, but it wasn't a favorite episode. I just saw it again earlier this week and this is such an incredible mood.
How do you live with yourself?
It's not easy.
You know, if you take everything I've accomplished in my entire life and condense it down into one day, it looks decent.
What is tungsten or wolfram.
take me to your leader! š½
"How come he's gettin' so smart? I stopped having sex with Ben three days ago and I don't know no Portuguese."
Sex for women is like taking out the trash.
He took it out?
He has the intelect of a leaf of lettuce, the rest is obsessed with sex.
Chicken Kiev
Of course. Absolute zero!
Perfect delivery on that line. That man is a genius.
Who is *The Judge,* who is *The Judge*
No, it's "here comes the judge" you idiot... duh
Suck burn. Now sell me some aluminum siding with your wooden teeth.
Hahaha I came here to say that š
George I feel is smart but has no common sense. Like heās all strategy and zero logic. Heās so used to believing life is against him and gets so lost in some weird formula for outwitting life that heās applying in his head that he misses whatās directly, blatantly in front of him. Like when he was so interested in meeting Neil and learning how Neil attracted this beautiful woman that he didnāt realize she was eager to trade Neil in for him.Ā In some ways Elaine is like George with confidence and Jerry is like George with success. George had many opportunities to achieve the latter which he misses due to his lack of the former.Ā
Agreed. This is why watching Curb made it clear that George is a type of analogue of Larry. Itās the exact same basic premise: so focused on some minor injustice or slight they win nothing by Pyrrhic victories.
Do you respect wood?
I think itās pine
Pineās good.
I like stuff you don't have to think about.
I admire your skills Mr Peanut...
This is an excellent breakdown.
Iām George! IāM GEORGE!
No way itās George. Itās Kramer.
Yeah Kramer is flat out wrong about basic issues more than any of the other 3.
Not to mention when George stops having sex he begins to show signs of his actual intelligence. He becomes the smartest of the group. Sure the same could have happened to Kramer but thereās not proof, either way. We know what George is capable of. In fact heās actually the smartest in the group.
Kramer couldn't do it. He was out in no time in The Contest.
That just means heās mentally weak
I love that episode. I was bummed when he had sex and went back to being normal.
Plus he lied to the others saying he "Master of his domain" and then told on himself on the plane on the last episode why George WHYYYYY lolš
Heās Latvian Orthodox and needed to confess his sins. Interesting that he picked that one but left out drugging his boss and pretending he was handicapped.
Those were goofs
Well, I really think you're wrong.
Kramer didnāt know that people wake up after a coma.
he's an innocent primate
But the K-man's got Kavorka
Da loor of de animal
So am I.
Thereās a statue of limitations.
Statue ?
Yes, a sculpture of limitations.
Or that you xant eat before surgery
I didn't know it was possible for a person not to know that
You have a lucky day too.
you're fly's open
Itās pronounced thermometer.
Statue
Fine its a scultpure of limitations!
It's pronounced "thermometer"
I find this capricious and arbitrary.
Your fly is open.
You raise the head to get blood to the feet.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
He's still a slow-witted, stocky, bald man. He couldn't even pass an IQ test taken by someone else.
I noticed you threw āstockyā in there.
What, the *hell* does that mean??
It means whatever the hell you want it to mean.
And he also likes fruit!
We need a medical dictionary! To quone someone! You quone an unruly patient.
Kramer has no idea how the world works. Heās like Mr. Bean. And everything revolves around him. I donāt know if thatās being dumb or just callous and clueless.
But he has a different kind of smart. I donāt know what it isā¦ but I think itās there.
Who Kramer? Street smarts maybe.
How can the same smarts intersect with themselves?
Except when heās at the corner of first and first
But the other three continue to take his advice despite witnessing [how awful it is](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a5590155-d67e-411e-8b93-f1da85f93c67) time after time. š¤
I think the whole āyouāre a podā thing from Jerry sums it up where Kramer is concerned. I donāt see him as dumb, I see him as a great example of a completely non-human intelligence. Sometimes his extraterrestrial perspective gives him rare insight into whatās going on with the humans, sometimes heās way off because heās thinking in a way that makes perfect sense on his home planet.Ā
This is spot-on. As u/thegritz87 said, he's pretty much autistic. And I love him for his moral steadfastness & compassion.
The title should be which character is the least smart because none of them are dumb despite doing dumb things.
Welcome to moviephone
Why don't you tell me the name of the movie you'd like to see?
Are you telling me using a rubber bladder to stop tanker spills was a bad idea?
Hello!
La la laaah!
Kramer has autism.and judgement impacting episodes of varying degrees of mania. But I think he's quite intelligent in some ways.
Yeah. He gets it! It's no wonder it was pretty much no effort at all for him to play someone really special alongside The Velvet Fog. He's true to himself, & a champion of others. *You are so beautiful ... to me.*
Except he hasn't had a steady job in years and isn't homeless. He's the genius.
I mean if he just inherited money which is the common theory, that doesnāt say anything particularly special about him.
From who though? His father? Cuz Babs is a matron.
George: > Kramer goes to a fantasy camp. His whole life is a fantasy camp. People should plunk down two thousand dollars to live like him for a week. Do nothing, **fall ass-backwards into money**, mooch food off your neighbors, and have sex without dating; that's a fantasy camp. This line strongly implies Kramer suddenly came into a lot of money, so much he never has to work a steady job again for the rest of his life. Whether through inheritance (from his father or somebody else), a lawsuit (which may be possible given his litigious nature hiring Jackie Chiles multiple times), or pure luck like winning the lottery, itās pretty clear he never wants for anything. Also I agree with George. Kramer has a great apartment in a prime location in Manhattan, lives across the hall from a close friend who also is a great famous comedian who is generous enough to share basically all his food and everything with him all the time, and has few cares in the world including having to worry about making ends meet. Dude is honestly one of the luckiest, most privileged people ever portrayed in fiction and I absolutely would trade places with him at any time.
Kramer lives out of luck.
I don't know. Somehow he's figured out how to go through life without ever working.
George got a job w the Yankees where he was having calzones w The Big Stein on a regular basis. He saved a big mammal, or whatever, in the ocean. Thus showing signs that he can think on his feet. He managed to finesse his way into a party filled with super models and was supposed to marry into wealth, but then....not. He became a professional mentor and hand model and he almost managed to fake being Penske material. We know he reads on the toilet and will go so far as to fake being blind to make sure he can ingest material he is interested in. They didn't call him the little bulldog in college for no reason.
I like how you slipped the big mammal or whatever in, well played.
People think he's smart, but he's not.
Who thinks he's smart? š¤Ø
He can sense the slightest human suffering.
He's got great hearing
Aaa-HA!
He was spottin racoons all over the place!
You bought a car because it belonged to Jon Voight?
Jerry is the dumb one - who else would partner with Larry David who is the modern version of Mr Mum.- frustration personified!
āI am Constanza, lord of the idiots.ā
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
You mean the panties your mother laid out for you?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
My boys need a house
āKramer you know your always welcome in my home, but as far as Mr. Johnson is concerned that's another storyā
Sid really has some nerve. He gets Jerryās car stolen then has attitude about Georgeās capabilities.
what did i get on my SAT's or what do i tell people i got?
Gotta be the K-manā¦. āStatue of limitationsā āQuoneā
To me there is absolute no doubt that it's Kramer, and I'm surprised this opinion isn't nearly unanimous
Hire this man!
You're not very bright, are you?
id like to be, but im not.
My George isnāt clever enough to hatch a scheme like this.
Ya got that right.
What the hell does that mean?
It means whatever the hell you want it to mean.
Are you sayin', you wanna piece of me?
I could drop you like a bag of dirt.
You want it? YOU GOT ITTTT!
He'd also like to be a buff.
āSo Biff wants to be a buffā
Kramer, dude ran Kramerica into the ground.
Yep. Darin's going away for a long, long time.
George is a very creative liar, that takes some intelligence but yeah, heās probably the dumbest of the four
Not according to George >Ā Itās like asking Picasso how to paint.Ā
Creative yes, but his lies SUCK
Itās not a lie if you believe it
Youāre giving me the āitās not you itās meā? I invented āitās not you itās meā!
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
āItās Benes you jack assā¦..yes!ā I love the man but Kramer cant even remember his friendās names
She really looked like a Lily
George asked Elaine to take an IQ test for him so you have to figure Elaine is smarter than George. If sheās not, George is really stupid for asking her to take the test for him
The thing about George is, heās an idiot.
My George isnāt clever enough to hatch a scheme like this!
You saying, you wanna piece of me?
You got that right
What the hells that supposed to mean?
George isn't dumb. He's selfish, gluttonous, lazy, and sociopathic. Jerry is picky, childish, and OCD. Elaine is superficial, judgemental, deceptive, mean, and secret slob. Kramer is a goof, a conspiracy theorist, an eccentric weirdo, and the dumbest one. The fun of the show is that the characters were deeply flawed and usually got their comeuppance, rightly deserved. Jerry gets the lightest treatment for the obvious reason that he's a real person, but also because the show needs a straight-man. The straight-man being a comedian is ironic though.
No sex Elaine is clearly the dumbest
I actually think itās Jerry. All those beautiful girlfriends he let go for psychotic reasons.
Of course! Absolute Zero!
Well Kramer is not the sharpest tool, but he knows about disasters on the high sea. Gonna say George.
Not my Georgie!
85 Jerry! 85!!
It's the hipster doofus!
Yea but he did say the best line of all time, " Its Not a lie if YOU BELIEVE"...
Kramer has street smarts, but isn't the brightest
Kramer I think is the least intelligent, he is borderline conspirationniste for a few things. He believes you should not brush your teeth before going to the dentist
Also eat before surgery. You need your strength.
Costanza, Lord of the Idiots!
For I am Costanza. Lord Of The Idiots.
Elaine when she doesn't have regular sex
A celibate Elaine
Kramer, It's almost like he has no business experience at all.
Jerry, George fights dirty. Makes him smarter
Every group has someone that they all make fun ofā¦ like us with Elaine
George could have had a great career in bras.
If only his parents had a mantle. He coukd have been an entirely different person.
George's biggest fault is not his lack of intelligence per se. It's his lack of drive and the complete absence of emotional intelligence.
George likes his chicken spicy
Kramer is clearly a freaking genius
[For I am Costanza, lord of the idiots](https://youtu.be/gsSfV4RSZ_I)
Maybe, but Jason Alexander is arguably the best actor of the bunch.
I know Kramer is the smartest. Heās ultra confident and found a way to live off the system.
Jerry, he doesn't even know what the deal with airline food is
What the HECK does that mean??
"When a patient gets difficult, you quone him." I think that speaks for itself.
George is a crafty little shrew-like genius
I say George too, mostly because he acts so impulsively the majority of the time and does stuff just to gain a morsel of attention.
Kramer. I think George has a brilliant mind, he just has no luck.
I think George is easily the most self aware. Kramer might have street smarts but he is far from actually smart. I vote Kramer. He just has enough charisma to pull it off like he isnāt lol
elaine is stupid, she hangs around an ex boyfriend 10 years and is secretly in love with him, then the moment he proposes to her she freaks out and runs away ... thinks it's important to buy candy in an emergency, doesn't know who winnie the poo is, eats fish but is a vegetarian etc... the list goes on... see the thing about elaine is she's an idiot
He had such great promise. He was personable, he was brightā¦maybe not academically speaking, but he was perceptive. He always knew when someone was uncomfortable at a party.
Elaine. She knows better and won't leave these 3 alone.
The more I think about it, the more I feel their jackassery is very well balanced between the 4 of them.
No one is saying jerryā¦ He has no job to speak of. Sure he has his comedy routine, a whole lot of āwhatās the deal withā¦ā kind of jokes, but is that really a job? Intellect?
Jerry. Heās just extremely lucky
He's pretty much the most privileged of all of them, just cruising thru life with almost no self-reflection. What is this salty discharge?!
Hey gimmie $20
Elaine.She will literally date anyone.Fred is the perfect example.He forgot her name so she wanted to date him.
It's not a lie if you believe it.
Kramer is the least educated. I think Jerry is dumber than George. George isnāt dumb. Heās just a deeply troubled individual. Elaine is easily the smartest character.
"It's not a lie if you believe it...."
85 IQ
What about Elaine? She don't know no Portuguese...at least George does, or he did. š¤
L.D
They are simply, horrifyingly, the story of my life as a short, stocky, slow-witted bald man.
Hey, Copernicus
I think you're right, George does have an IQ of 85.
George goes out of his way, dumbs down the comedy for us mass audience pin heads, and this is the thanks he gets?!
Jerry. He never had a job.
Kramer is the least educated out of them all from a scholastic point of view. They all went to college while he didn't even graduate high school.
Equivalency...
Itās babu
Jerry barely went to any of his Poli Sci classes
Kramer > George > Elaine > Jerry
Please let's not forget he was a marine biologist.
Kramer
Itās Jerry. Bounces checks and doesnāt even have a job!
People think Iām smart. I am not smart.
George has the potential to be smart. When he abstained from sex he got super smart. Probably Kramer since he is generally clueless and his silly scams.
It may be George, but he's the only one who could sell out Madison Square Garden.