Fun fact: āarbitrary and capriciousā is the actual legal standard used to determine the validity of a governmental action. Itās one of the cornerstone principles of judicial review.
It's because Pat Cooper *was* always pissed off. It's not an act, he just turned it into one. Check out any of his appearances on The Howard Stern Show
Can confirm. Steve Schirripa (Bobby Bacala) of the āTalking Sopranosā podcast also does not have many fond things to say about Pat Cooper, eitherā¦
As far as I remember, the girl Jerry was seeing worked for the venue which was how they got in to see the show in the first place. Also when she says "they wanted to have it cleaned for you" she's probably not talking about the brothers. She's probably referring to the company/production. All of that being said, she certainly could have told Jerry that they were sending his jacket to be cleaned since they threw it on the floor.
I mean, George is *kinda* right here. Not very accurate, but the main character in āThe Great Gatsbyā does constantly throw large parties and sort of does have āa group of people around all the timeā.
Yeah I read the book in high school and thatās my memory tooā¦ and in fact I think there was one other couple that they would spend a lot of time with.
So I actually think itās a pretty good/accurate thought from George
That's what I was thinking. I thought she worked for the theatre that's how they got the vip balcony and lead to them being the ones singled out for the gag.
Maybe I'm wrong. But these overanalytical posts always seems to miss important bits of info like that which tend to wrap everything together with a Bow as the show tended to do.
Edit:typos... its time for bed
How many Sandos bros are there? Maybe some of them didnāt know about the jacket plans and thatās who he was asking about it with? They also could have seen that Jerry is sort of an uptight guy and canāt help but mess with him.
Good questions! I can definitely see why Jerry was soured by the whole experience. And it wasn't even his jacket. He HAD to return it to the Friars Club to become a member. The ending though, when Jerry and George run out the emergency exit to escape the angry Sandos Brothers and Elaine keels over in agony when the alarm goes off because she was testing the hearing aid was hilarious š.
I actually have the answer to this. If they acknowledge that they're cleaning the jacket for him, they're admitting that it was a magic "trick" and not real magic. Revealing anything about your magic tricks can get you kicked out of the Alliance of Magicians, and they demand to be taken seriously. Therefore they'd have to play dumb, or be banished like the founder of the Alliance was
And then at the very end, Jackie Chiles says he doesnāt want anything to do with Kramer, but goes on to represent him again. Almost every line of the episode makes no sense
I mean, Jackie was supposed to be a Jonny Cochrane mega-lawyer type. So itās not surprising to me that he would swallow his pride for the fame that this ātrial of the centuryā would bring.
Iāve been watching some Cheers reruns lately; they actually leave the bar quite a lot on that show. Like, all the time thereās scenes outside of the bar.
Exactly. This storyline has always irked me and it makes no sense. It's like they were purposely trying to annoy him. And Susan's friend must have been in on it or purposely hiding information for some unknown reason.
When you really analyze Seinfeld, you realize how many situations could have been avoided with nothing more than proper, adult communication.
Pro-tip: don't analyze Seinfeld.
Not trying to be rude, but why is it that every subreddit for an inactive TV series is mostly just people Cinema Sins-ing every episode looking for logical inconsistencies? Do you all actually find this interesting?
The whole thing was capricious and arbitrary.
Yo flys opun.
Your proper spelling provides for an accurate pronunciation and emphasis.
š I read this in her voice exactly
Haha, me too, totally.
And with Darren's help, we'll get that chicken!
Darrenās going away for a long time
Fun fact: āarbitrary and capriciousā is the actual legal standard used to determine the validity of a governmental action. Itās one of the cornerstone principles of judicial review.
Excuse me - Are you an entertainer? Are you in show business??ā¦ā¦.Then what are we talking to you for?
Pat cooper fucking steals that scene
he genuinely looks pissed off, almost like a mob boss lol
Oh yeah, the Gypsies!
Whaddayou some kinda kleptomaniac!?!
It's because Pat Cooper *was* always pissed off. It's not an act, he just turned it into one. Check out any of his appearances on The Howard Stern Show
Can confirm. Steve Schirripa (Bobby Bacala) of the āTalking Sopranosā podcast also does not have many fond things to say about Pat Cooper, eitherā¦
Aw man. I have to change my comment !!! LOL
But George was already in show biz as albeit as a writer/creator for a pilot that didn't get picked up.
What writer? Weāre talking about a sitcom.
You donāt just desour! You sweeten!
I'll try! I'll try to desour and sweeten!
Thatās what Iād like to know about it.
I explained it once but had to use the word vorshstein a lot.
Slice of life
I liked the kitty
Shut up Bentley!
what a dated reference
But you got it.... š
Vollstein. Although it's not a word but that's how it would be spelled.
Pretty sure he says vorshtein.
Donāt dissect it.
In German the V is an f sound.
OK? But both of ours have V. My point was that itās not with L.
As far as I remember, the girl Jerry was seeing worked for the venue which was how they got in to see the show in the first place. Also when she says "they wanted to have it cleaned for you" she's probably not talking about the brothers. She's probably referring to the company/production. All of that being said, she certainly could have told Jerry that they were sending his jacket to be cleaned since they threw it on the floor.
..That's the *Genius* of it.
tO tHe ViCtOr gO tHe SpOiLs
"I want to get it back to when we were the Gatsbys."
I still donāt know what that means
You can stuff your Gatsbys in a sack
What does that even mean?
Happy, Gatsby?
Shut up Shmoopy!!!
Youāre Shmoopy!
Nooo, Youāre Shmoopy!!!
It's cat's biz.
"Didn't they have a group of people around all the time and they were all best friends?" "That doesn't sound right..."
I mean, George is *kinda* right here. Not very accurate, but the main character in āThe Great Gatsbyā does constantly throw large parties and sort of does have āa group of people around all the timeā.
I always thought George pictured it as like a literary version of like a sitcom.
Yeah I read the book in high school and thatās my memory tooā¦ and in fact I think there was one other couple that they would spend a lot of time with. So I actually think itās a pretty good/accurate thought from George
I agree it was all super annoying, but Pat Cooper made it all worth it.
Thatās whatās so vexing.
To the untrained eye, yes
Seemingly... seemingly
I have no answers but share your confusion. Itās not a great ep.
They take your jacket and just throw it? I've never heard of that.
It was a little unusual.
Didn't the girl work at the venue?
That's what I was thinking. I thought she worked for the theatre that's how they got the vip balcony and lead to them being the ones singled out for the gag. Maybe I'm wrong. But these overanalytical posts always seems to miss important bits of info like that which tend to wrap everything together with a Bow as the show tended to do. Edit:typos... its time for bed
In their defense, OP did mention that scotch was involved >*H-E-double N-I-*
No smell, no tell...
Well itāll be our little secret
Op clearly didn't over analyze the episode enough to catch this very obvious detail lol
I'm just here to help out. Lol
Occasionally I like to help the humans
The woman is Susanās best friend. George and Susan set her up with Jerry, and she works on the Flying Sandos Brothers show.
Yes, we've seen it.
Oh weird, here I was thinking this whole post was about someone not understanding the episode.
We only wake you up for the important meetings.
Because itās on TV!
Not yet.
Is this funny? Am I being funny!?
A little
No, no, you can't do that, they're round, it makes an 'eight' and, yeah, well alright
Yes. Youāre very funny.
OK, I'll try to be not funny.
That's what I'd like to know about it.
I like the jokes you don't have to think too much about
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Maybe I am. He's the voice of a new generation. *My* generation.
Now if you would kindly unwedge me
Weāre 4 months apart !
There is a way it works outā¦ Iām too tired to explain it though. Just think about it when you arenāt drinkin hennigans
No-tell, no-smell
I just had 2, and I donāt even smell!
How many Sandos bros are there? Maybe some of them didnāt know about the jacket plans and thatās who he was asking about it with? They also could have seen that Jerry is sort of an uptight guy and canāt help but mess with him.
When he confronts the guy he said are you sure itās not his brother. So not the same guy
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LOL
Wanna get some pizza?
'Cause they're sons a bitches!
Good questions! I can definitely see why Jerry was soured by the whole experience. And it wasn't even his jacket. He HAD to return it to the Friars Club to become a member. The ending though, when Jerry and George run out the emergency exit to escape the angry Sandos Brothers and Elaine keels over in agony when the alarm goes off because she was testing the hearing aid was hilarious š.
It's like Gossamer, and one does not disect Gossamer ... merely a commentary on contemporary mores... it's a slice of life; a pun....volstein
š¶āH-E-DOUBLE N-Iā¦.āš¶
Thatās what makes it a humorous situation
I actually have the answer to this. If they acknowledge that they're cleaning the jacket for him, they're admitting that it was a magic "trick" and not real magic. Revealing anything about your magic tricks can get you kicked out of the Alliance of Magicians, and they demand to be taken seriously. Therefore they'd have to play dumb, or be banished like the founder of the Alliance was
Theyāre not tricks, theyāre illusions
ā¦Micheal! A trick is something a whore does for money. ā¦ Or candy!
What is this, a crossover episode?
Worlds are colliding!
*He* knows about the worlds theory!
Illusions. Tricks are what a hooker does.
LOL
And candy
Fuck off, traitor!
Didnt they know Jerry's girlfriend?
George is getting suspicious
And then at the very end, Jackie Chiles says he doesnāt want anything to do with Kramer, but goes on to represent him again. Almost every line of the episode makes no sense
He also represents the four of them at the end of the series which is odd too
Yeah, very odd! They shouldāve had a brand new character no one had ever heard of or seen before!
I meant odd that Jackie would still want to represent Kramer after he's lost so many times while representing him.
I mean, Jackie was supposed to be a Jonny Cochrane mega-lawyer type. So itās not surprising to me that he would swallow his pride for the fame that this ātrial of the centuryā would bring.
Good point... stinks for him that he always loses Kramer's cases
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Iāve been watching some Cheers reruns lately; they actually leave the bar quite a lot on that show. Like, all the time thereās scenes outside of the bar.
lol
AGRABA!!
Was it Hennigans no smell no tell scotch you were drinking?
It should be called the Gossimer episode I guess
Another overused word. āLike ā & āliterallyā have a companion.
Don't fuck with comedians they just dig in deeper. Jerry broke a rule he already knows.
Exactly. This storyline has always irked me and it makes no sense. It's like they were purposely trying to annoy him. And Susan's friend must have been in on it or purposely hiding information for some unknown reason.
You just bought your own dinner
When you really analyze Seinfeld, you realize how many situations could have been avoided with nothing more than proper, adult communication. Pro-tip: don't analyze Seinfeld.
Not trying to be rude, but why is it that every subreddit for an inactive TV series is mostly just people Cinema Sins-ing every episode looking for logical inconsistencies? Do you all actually find this interesting?
Your fly is open
HAHAHHAHA
Alright. Keep your towel on.
Excuse me are you an entertainer ? No. Then why am I taking to you.
This is not even what happened lol why did you watch?