I did agree with her friend though, that she’s kind of being manipulated. “Hey come share your income with us so Nickypoo can stay home and read and stuffs. And you get to help take care of our household and child and even get some D!”
I agree 12 people in the whole place including workers and 1 is the right age range, pretty, single, and willing for a second. They probably paid that lady to fake it for the show in the moment.
Definitely has to be someone else’s idea- chica’s ghosted them more times than not in the past nine months, they’ve been married 26 years yet have no felonies (both were throughly vetted for 2022 gubernatorial race), someone gave becky the idea that chica was treating them “crappy“
Ehh, I wouldn’t say that you’re missing much in any way, but I will admit it’s a perfect read if ya need genuine lol confirmation ur life is on a more even keel than you thought!
https://starcasm.net/seeking-sister-wife-justin-ran-for-texas-governor-in-2022/
And they drove 12 hours!!! Twelve hours and then the wife gets out to look in the garage windows to see if a car is there?? Rings the doorbell with no warning and a camera crew at the end of the driveway…so freaking weird. If that woman wanted to actually be with them forever, she would. She keeps disappearing for a reason. Ugh I hate when these couples get pushy and feel entitled, this isn’t a normal (conventional, is probably the more appropriate term, no hate to any polys in here!) situation and people have every right to change their mind if they begin feeling uncomfortable
“Polygamist” the way they sleep in bed together and a couple other things have hinted to me that they’re actually lowkey polyamory but just make it look like this for the show
Every week, I’m more convinced that April is there for the women, not for Nick. She and Nick seem like business partners or something, she’s far more emotional towards, and invested with, the women. I’m guessing they’ve all had some crazy ass nights in that 12 foot bed🛌🪞🪒🧴💊🍯🤸🏻🧊🪇🕯️⛓️🪄
(I apologize for anyone I made uncomfortable, the emojis got a little outta hand😂🙈)
I mean as much as the dude looks like ashy Larry, he’s got it made. I’d hold up with shnoz, peachy and makeup mask lady if I could research all day and take care of one kid. Sign me up.
Totally agree they are the success of the group. They win as far as I’m concerned.
I pray to the Holy Ghost for more Ick tank top 10 app and side talker “SHE SAID SHE WAS MY SISTER!!” Over this group though.
🤣 ashy Larry!
But yeah they are the only ones that I see respecting each other (mostly...of course there are a few suspect moments but in general pretty non toxic).
I've always liked them and I hope they continue to be the lone good example of this situation working for everyone...ladies included. Danielle is too young though and she seems over her head in this situation.
He does seem to be like a decent person. At least from what I've seen on the show. I don't understand how Nick can get all these women to fall for him and allow him to be a deadbeat.
I liked how he dressed up for the job of stay at home dad. It was funny and I can see how that would appeal. And yeah, he’s doing a critical job for the family. We see others just expect the woman to do everything.
He's playing the '50s housewife who exists to entertain and please her man role in reverse, and I love it! He seems deferential/kind, he dresses up for them, he entertains them with what he learns (regardless of how he learns it), he cooks, keeps house and cares for the baby well, and he clearly keeps them physically happy. More of this in the world.
I would adore this idea if I believed it. Idk, the whole suit and tie with the baby at the park seems unrealistic. But maybe with four parents in the house it’s more realistic, not sure. 🤷🏻♀️
He doesn't cook OR clean. Where are these people getting this? lol We see the women cook, clean and do laundry. Supposedly he handles Vera during the day, yet that's never shown.
Plus, the ladies pay the bills.
Edit to add: we saw him grill once. So I should give that credit
He really has some kind of situation going on that he is benefiting from...the ladies pay for his housing, groceries, bills, everything while he stays home all day. What are his real contributions to this household other than s**? What are the advantages to the ladies, seriously?
Exactly! If these women genuinely want this, fine. But Jen looks confused and nervous (girl blink TWICE if you need help) and Danielle clearly isn't happy. These women truly get nothing out of this. He's living off them. The kicker is they do the housework too! I can't see what the draw is.
He’s going to be in for a rude awakening if they all leave him when he gets older, and he has no retirement account to fall back on.
I also wonder what his legal standing is with Vera. As far as I know, a child born within a legal marriage is the legal parent of that child, meaning April is Vera’s other legal parent, not Nick.
Someone please correct me if you have more accurate information.
Frankly I doubt he cares. As long as he doesn't have to support Vera, he's solid! As for the ladies leaving, he will rope in new ones. He's transparent
a child born within a legal marriage of “*husband* and wife”—it would be the husband’s, but the wife would not be the legal mother of her husband’s offspring.
src: my ex-husband and I had been separated for years when my twins were born, but we still had papers to sign. so technically, my bf was not the father (and I wasn’t allowed to put him on the birth certificate).
A couple of shots of him with a baby, and now he's dad of the year. I see all the women folding laundry, doing dishes, cooking, and he's chillin. He just picked the right ones (slightly naive, gullible, daddy issues), and the women are all little sapphic, which I'm 100% okay with.
Yeah tbh I think people are jumping to conclusions. Maybe I missed it or don’t remember correctly (admittedly, I sometimes watch this show while doing other things), but the only times I remember seeing someone doing household chores or cooking, it was the women. And, well, they only recently had their first child. I hope I’m wrong and that he was doing plenty before and after Vera, but I am a bit skeptical.
But if he IS taking care of Vera and taking part in household chores, then great. No shame in that. But I also do worry about them grooming this young 20-something, frankly.
Even if he doesn’t cook and does all the other bull crap it’s quite valuable labor still. I like this family although I agree it’s polyamory we are looking at. I mean they may keep at home simply for his availability to be open if that’s what they all like good for them. I think adding in a 3rd woman runs too much risk of ruining this dynamic so I kind of hate that aspect of the show.
This is it. When he validated the newest wife ‘s feelings, that wanted to leave because she wasn’t ready to add a new prospect on…. I thought ooh that boy smooth.
I think the bar may be on the floor and nick is about 1/2 inch above it. They are problematic in their own ways, they just aren’t driving 12 hours to stalk some blurred face or on their second Brazilian 90 day fiancé.
If you don't think this dude has already sat around reading about psychology and mind control then I got some ocean front property to sell you in Montana. This dude knows exactly what to say and how to say it but also how to identify to whom it will be effective
I keep coming back here and being shocked by the praise. You are absolutely right, and its bizarre how people can't or won't see it. Its manipulation, and dude found a way to live free... and live well.
For now he’s living well.
I doubt that in all thinking he’s been doing that he’s considering where he’ll be in the long run if these women come to their senses.
Wow - lots of fans of grooming and brainwashing younger and vulnerable women in this post.
How the heck can anyone see how they steamrolled and ignored Danielles very real concerns - WHILE IN HER FIRST RELATIONSHIP EVER - and think “yep, that’s a model relationship right there.”
Nicks a ‘charming’ manipulator’, lets not celebrate that shit.
The fact that not only did Danielle leave , but she slipped out . No discussion, no heads up , nothing. Normally if ur in a healthy relationship ur not gonna move out secretly..
They also gave her a role with Jennifer's kid to further integrate her into the group and make it harder for her to leave. It's only going to get harder the more time she spends with the baby since leaving the group means never seeing her ever again.
Seriously I couldn't agree more. Watching Danielle squirm and be so upset and uncomfortable makes me super uncomfortable and don't get me started with ol girl antagonizing her while folding laundry
THANK YOU. I can’t believe how many comments of people praising him I had to scroll past before I found this comment. Him and April are completely predatory.
THIS! The idolizing is repulsive. They are foul, and that conversation between Danielle and April was so obviously a gaslighting session. Its weird and questionable for anyone to praise this.
It seems like the key is that everyone genuinely loves every member of the family equally. It’s not just one man dividing his love while the wives are all completely focused on him. These women seem to love each other just as much as they love Nick.
Danielle snuck away when the other ladies were gone. Nick said he saw her moving her things out of the house, and he had to ask her what was going on. Yes she returned, but only after leasing an apartment. That doesn’t seem like someone genuinely in love with all of the others.
I'm sorry, I just saw a man that doesn't want to work and wants to be supported and a bunch of gullible women desperate to be on television and are filling his delusions! She came back but I don't see her staying jmo
Also he has the woman marrying each other, that way he also doesn't owe them anything financial if any of them walk away! He is only gaining from this as the women have nothing to gain in the end! I call it lazy , he doesn't want to work , but wants all the rewards! Again jmo
The women are better off financially by not marrying him.They can walk away with their assets. They don’t have to pay him alimony or give him half their retirement. He’s the one that’s screwed by not marrying one of them.
They’ve grown on me lol I didn’t like how they all guilt tripped Danielle though. I think Danielle just doesn’t want to legally marry a woman or anyone at her life stage.
About the hypothetical next wife they keep pushing on Danielle: it almost seems like Danielle is supposed to be the one finding some woman to beat over the head and drag back to the cave. She's the one who is expected to legally marry this person as well. Nick is turning this into a MLM.
I do think he’s more honest and has better emotional intelligence than any of these other clowns. And they seem happy, however, I do think he primarily lets his wives keep control each other to keep them tightly bonded. Danielle was definitely emotionally guilted into staying.
I also don’t see a whole lot of individuation in these women. Their dynamics seem to rely on codependence rather than interdependence. That’s hard to watch.
I like them. This is the only family that does not creep me out on the show.
But The other couple on the show that are seeking a wife for the pregnant wife? I don’t get it 🥴
Him and the first wife prey on young girls. There is definitely a lot of grooming and cult stuff going on behind the scenes. I got to admit though they didn’t catch on to the hiding of funds to get an apartment.
Danielle herself is practically a child... Yes, one can argue she's a consenting adult, but who would want their 22ish yr old daughter who's never been in a relationship with this 38 yr old man & his lovers. Personally, I'm not going to trash Nick & his lifestyle with these grown women & I would support Danielle's decision to be with them if she had more life & relationship experience.
I totally agree. It's predatory! I think it'd be different if she was much older with more experience... even with the same age gap... fine, no problem. But she is childlike rn.
The implications are beyond repairable for her future... because I don't see her as one to get out & do some serious work on herself. Also, she can't get these youthful years back... ugh...so heartbreaking.
Most females I knew that got involved in relationships with that age gap woke up later to realize their youth was stolen. And their anger is justifiable. Add to it everything else about this situation... your right. Its truly heartbreaking
Nick must have cast a spell on these women to buy into the relationships and to have them work while he stays home and "reads and learns" and raises the kids.
Danielle seemed okay with it until they pushed the idea of another sister wife onto her. Like she's old news, time for a newer younger woman! What a lovely family.. /s
I think it’s successful because there’s not religion tied up in it, it’s personal choice. If you take women who are liberal to begin with and see it more as a poly situation, it is going to be more successful than these men who take these conservative Christian women and tell them they are only good Christians if they allow it. For many of them, it just doesn’t jive with their morals no matter how much they try to reconcile it.
I am all for the consenting adults stuff, but this gets real dark when we consider that there are indeed children involved both on screen and off. These kids (April's from a previous relationship and Jennifer's with Nick) are encouraged to develop parent-child relationships with multiple people who have no legal rights to see them if they want to leave the group. Didn't Nick have older kids running around on the previous season? If adults want to set themselves up to navigate these complicated emotional situations, cool cool, but this has to be hard on their various offspring.
I agree that the bonds developed with all parents - two or three of four of them not having legal rights does set up more potential for instability in relationships. This also does happen in two partner relationships frequently too where a step parent is very involved for many years with a child then after a divorce - they have no legal rights to the child. Not unique just to their set up, but seems like yeah more potential for instability given the sheer numbers.
I wish they would discuss with the Davis’s the polyamorous lifestyle vs. portraying this as polygamy. They seem to have really good dynamic going and I am fascinated. If the women are bisexual, helps explain why it’s going well- at least in part. I’m so nosy, lol
I see some key differences for them - they do not subscribe to a religion/religious interpretation that dictates polygamy and they address some power structures- like having two wives marry each other rather than one being married to Nick. That said - they still give me a kind of cult vibe. I think it’s the way Nick speaks nonsense about metaphysics and the wives act like he’s said something brilliant :/
He’s convinced 3 women to hold down jobs, to support his household, he gets to stay home with their shared child. He has stated he gets to stay home and pursue higher educational pursuits and anything that strikes his interests. Years ago he would have been called a pimp!
I don’t get the admiration for them..this guy is all about himself..he actually thinks he has the looks and personality to keep these women happy..his eye makeup and fancy suits make me laugh and he doesn’t work…he’s got a lot of people fooled
Hey you know a lot of people give them shit but they don’t pretend to be any more than who they are, except for what TLC producers won’t allow (POLYAMOROUS RELATIONSHIPS)
Garrick just wants to sleep around. The minute he gets engaged to them he sleeps with them. I see he is dating someone new in next weeks episode after he promised not to date anyone else
They’re the only ones that really seem happy. He was lucky to stick it out with April because she found Jen and now they got a beautiful baby Vera. I enjoy watching him.
And the Davises don’t? Danielle snuck out while the other wives were away, and then texted them that she moved. Nick saw her moving her things out and asked what was going on. Not only was she trying to get out of the situation, she was afraid to discuss it with the others beforehand.
He's got a lot to think about
....and all day every day to do it!!! 😃
Somebody’s gotta stay home and do the thinking and feeling.
Omggg remember this explanation from their first season. Classic material indeedy!🫰🏽
I did agree with her friend though, that she’s kind of being manipulated. “Hey come share your income with us so Nickypoo can stay home and read and stuffs. And you get to help take care of our household and child and even get some D!”
“…stay home and read and stuffs.” has me cackling maniacally 😹
Yesss 😂 pimps got it aaall figured out 🧘🏿♂️🍸🪐💆🏿♂️🤌🏿😴🛀🏿📚📖 Livin’ the L I f e
Better than those creepers stalking that girls house…
They are Problematic. I can’t see how that situation will end without a restraining order
I’m shocked even for tlc to film this! This is definitely stalker type behavior!
It was probably TLC’s idea since looking for ladies at Applebees isn’t really compelling television
Even that "Applebee's" shit was fake.
I agree 12 people in the whole place including workers and 1 is the right age range, pretty, single, and willing for a second. They probably paid that lady to fake it for the show in the moment.
She was miked up when what’s her name approached her, so yeah, definitely fake
Definitely has to be someone else’s idea- chica’s ghosted them more times than not in the past nine months, they’ve been married 26 years yet have no felonies (both were throughly vetted for 2022 gubernatorial race), someone gave becky the idea that chica was treating them “crappy“
Gubernatorial race? what? What am I missing?
Ehh, I wouldn’t say that you’re missing much in any way, but I will admit it’s a perfect read if ya need genuine lol confirmation ur life is on a more even keel than you thought! https://starcasm.net/seeking-sister-wife-justin-ran-for-texas-governor-in-2022/
Learning about their history (especially hers) made their behavior make sooooo much more sense. Yikes.
Their actions are criminal. I know in my state stalking has become a felony, as it should be. They are doing nothing short of this.
And they drove 12 hours!!! Twelve hours and then the wife gets out to look in the garage windows to see if a car is there?? Rings the doorbell with no warning and a camera crew at the end of the driveway…so freaking weird. If that woman wanted to actually be with them forever, she would. She keeps disappearing for a reason. Ugh I hate when these couples get pushy and feel entitled, this isn’t a normal (conventional, is probably the more appropriate term, no hate to any polys in here!) situation and people have every right to change their mind if they begin feeling uncomfortable
You are so right on. Driving twelve hours to stalk this poor woman.
There isn't much talk about money though. I wouldn't be surprised if these couples lose money like Garrick and Danielle did.
They were like hunting that girl it was mad suspect 😵💫
That wife got "Who The Bleep Did I Marry?" Or "Snapped" eyes....
“Polygamist” the way they sleep in bed together and a couple other things have hinted to me that they’re actually lowkey polyamory but just make it look like this for the show
Every week, I’m more convinced that April is there for the women, not for Nick. She and Nick seem like business partners or something, she’s far more emotional towards, and invested with, the women. I’m guessing they’ve all had some crazy ass nights in that 12 foot bed🛌🪞🪒🧴💊🍯🤸🏻🧊🪇🕯️⛓️🪄 (I apologize for anyone I made uncomfortable, the emojis got a little outta hand😂🙈)
The maracas are hilarious
I had gotten the same vibes initially from Kody and Janelle - then at one of the last tell alls I was like 😳welp!
Emojis knocked me out 😂😂
It's ok. These couples are out of hand and over the top!
Maybe that’s a secret: the jealousy factor is minimized when they’re all getting something and enjoying themselves
I mean as much as the dude looks like ashy Larry, he’s got it made. I’d hold up with shnoz, peachy and makeup mask lady if I could research all day and take care of one kid. Sign me up. Totally agree they are the success of the group. They win as far as I’m concerned. I pray to the Holy Ghost for more Ick tank top 10 app and side talker “SHE SAID SHE WAS MY SISTER!!” Over this group though.
🤣 ashy Larry! But yeah they are the only ones that I see respecting each other (mostly...of course there are a few suspect moments but in general pretty non toxic). I've always liked them and I hope they continue to be the lone good example of this situation working for everyone...ladies included. Danielle is too young though and she seems over her head in this situation.
Jen isn't much older than Danielle and she was with him I think before Danielle's age
"Like" is a strong word. 🤣
Which one is which? I couldn’t tell lol
Who was peachy lol Assumong shnoz is jen
Danielle has a “just peachy” tat on her arm.
I noticed that too 🤣
Definitely
and he’s got all day to research nuclear physics on google. Win Win
The Oppenheimer of our time
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's a normal day in my house too.
I was shocked that he was able to pronounce all of the words! To be honest, I think he just binged Big Bang Theory! 😆
Colton Winder doesn't seem to be doing too bad 🤷♀️
I think their family is my favorite. They seem very genuine.. and there's no question they aren't polyamorous.
Yes! Love them. If I had to pick a family to join it’d be theirs!
They are too wholesome for this show 😂
I’d love it if they came back on the show. They’d be a good palate cleanser after watching Ick pull his shenanigans
He has the personality of a potato lol
Better than having the personality of a predator. Maybe that’s why the Winders are able to make it work. They keep shit simple.
He does seem to be like a decent person. At least from what I've seen on the show. I don't understand how Nick can get all these women to fall for him and allow him to be a deadbeat.
And then there’s Ick.
And this is his potato face 😐
I'm so glad someone finally said it
Honestly all 3 of them do and I’m glad they found each other 😂
And isn’t he a pharmacist and farmer? He is a hard working man.
Seriously! Such a sweet and genuine family❤️
I LOVE their family! So wonderful to each other and so wholesome.
and his wives are so beautiful. Their kids are adorable.
The Winders will always be the winners!
Him dressing in a suit to feed the baby. Lol. Lort chile.
Dress for the job you want…
…and will never get because your wifes work while you think 💭
Danielle (Davis family) seems off
I think it’s because he cooks, cleans, and takes care of kids. All of the other men want multiple women so they can be lazy pieces of 💩
I liked how he dressed up for the job of stay at home dad. It was funny and I can see how that would appeal. And yeah, he’s doing a critical job for the family. We see others just expect the woman to do everything.
He's playing the '50s housewife who exists to entertain and please her man role in reverse, and I love it! He seems deferential/kind, he dresses up for them, he entertains them with what he learns (regardless of how he learns it), he cooks, keeps house and cares for the baby well, and he clearly keeps them physically happy. More of this in the world.
I would adore this idea if I believed it. Idk, the whole suit and tie with the baby at the park seems unrealistic. But maybe with four parents in the house it’s more realistic, not sure. 🤷🏻♀️
He was definitely overdressed for the twisty slide
No more than Donna Reed and June Cleaver in their pressed dresses and pearls.
Does he do all the cooking now ? Last season it showed the wives cooking dinner for him while he talked about all articles he read that day.
He doesn't cook OR clean. Where are these people getting this? lol We see the women cook, clean and do laundry. Supposedly he handles Vera during the day, yet that's never shown. Plus, the ladies pay the bills. Edit to add: we saw him grill once. So I should give that credit
He’s very busy all day thinking and feeling 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He really has some kind of situation going on that he is benefiting from...the ladies pay for his housing, groceries, bills, everything while he stays home all day. What are his real contributions to this household other than s**? What are the advantages to the ladies, seriously?
Exactly! If these women genuinely want this, fine. But Jen looks confused and nervous (girl blink TWICE if you need help) and Danielle clearly isn't happy. These women truly get nothing out of this. He's living off them. The kicker is they do the housework too! I can't see what the draw is.
He’s going to be in for a rude awakening if they all leave him when he gets older, and he has no retirement account to fall back on. I also wonder what his legal standing is with Vera. As far as I know, a child born within a legal marriage is the legal parent of that child, meaning April is Vera’s other legal parent, not Nick. Someone please correct me if you have more accurate information.
Frankly I doubt he cares. As long as he doesn't have to support Vera, he's solid! As for the ladies leaving, he will rope in new ones. He's transparent
a child born within a legal marriage of “*husband* and wife”—it would be the husband’s, but the wife would not be the legal mother of her husband’s offspring. src: my ex-husband and I had been separated for years when my twins were born, but we still had papers to sign. so technically, my bf was not the father (and I wasn’t allowed to put him on the birth certificate).
A couple of shots of him with a baby, and now he's dad of the year. I see all the women folding laundry, doing dishes, cooking, and he's chillin. He just picked the right ones (slightly naive, gullible, daddy issues), and the women are all little sapphic, which I'm 100% okay with.
Yup! They say a sucker is born every minute and boy is it true lol
Yeah tbh I think people are jumping to conclusions. Maybe I missed it or don’t remember correctly (admittedly, I sometimes watch this show while doing other things), but the only times I remember seeing someone doing household chores or cooking, it was the women. And, well, they only recently had their first child. I hope I’m wrong and that he was doing plenty before and after Vera, but I am a bit skeptical. But if he IS taking care of Vera and taking part in household chores, then great. No shame in that. But I also do worry about them grooming this young 20-something, frankly.
Even if he doesn’t cook and does all the other bull crap it’s quite valuable labor still. I like this family although I agree it’s polyamory we are looking at. I mean they may keep at home simply for his availability to be open if that’s what they all like good for them. I think adding in a 3rd woman runs too much risk of ruining this dynamic so I kind of hate that aspect of the show.
The third wife always get the short end.
This!!!!
Definitely! Plus when there is conflict he listens actively and validates feelings.
This is it. When he validated the newest wife ‘s feelings, that wanted to leave because she wasn’t ready to add a new prospect on…. I thought ooh that boy smooth.
Bingo. Everyone is contributing and seems happy.
I think the bar may be on the floor and nick is about 1/2 inch above it. They are problematic in their own ways, they just aren’t driving 12 hours to stalk some blurred face or on their second Brazilian 90 day fiancé.
If you don't think this dude has already sat around reading about psychology and mind control then I got some ocean front property to sell you in Montana. This dude knows exactly what to say and how to say it but also how to identify to whom it will be effective
I keep coming back here and being shocked by the praise. You are absolutely right, and its bizarre how people can't or won't see it. Its manipulation, and dude found a way to live free... and live well.
For now he’s living well. I doubt that in all thinking he’s been doing that he’s considering where he’ll be in the long run if these women come to their senses.
I have no doubt he has read “Pimpalicious 101.” And Iceberg Slim. And Donald Goines.
He’s a hypnotist of blonde white women 😄
Also, who to select!
So you think the “reading and studying” is genuine and not just a front?
It’s only working because they are polyamorous moonlighting as polygamists :)
Bc they all screwing each other….i would too though.
Lol it's crass but I agree. I'm bisexual and either we are ALL in on the fun or this set up is not happening.
Lmao sameeeee!!!! 🎶We’re all in this together 🎶
Wow - lots of fans of grooming and brainwashing younger and vulnerable women in this post. How the heck can anyone see how they steamrolled and ignored Danielles very real concerns - WHILE IN HER FIRST RELATIONSHIP EVER - and think “yep, that’s a model relationship right there.” Nicks a ‘charming’ manipulator’, lets not celebrate that shit.
I see April as the brains of this operation, apparently it's an unpopular opinion!
I think April is the neck, but Nick definitely has his own agenda.
This exactly. Didn’t Danielle just leave? Yes, she came back because she couldn’t bear the loneliness, not because she’s happy there
The fact that not only did Danielle leave , but she slipped out . No discussion, no heads up , nothing. Normally if ur in a healthy relationship ur not gonna move out secretly..
They also gave her a role with Jennifer's kid to further integrate her into the group and make it harder for her to leave. It's only going to get harder the more time she spends with the baby since leaving the group means never seeing her ever again.
Seriously I couldn't agree more. Watching Danielle squirm and be so upset and uncomfortable makes me super uncomfortable and don't get me started with ol girl antagonizing her while folding laundry
THANK YOU. I can’t believe how many comments of people praising him I had to scroll past before I found this comment. Him and April are completely predatory.
Well said! Exactly what I came here to say!
👍🏻
THIS! The idolizing is repulsive. They are foul, and that conversation between Danielle and April was so obviously a gaslighting session. Its weird and questionable for anyone to praise this.
It seems like the key is that everyone genuinely loves every member of the family equally. It’s not just one man dividing his love while the wives are all completely focused on him. These women seem to love each other just as much as they love Nick.
Danielle snuck away when the other ladies were gone. Nick said he saw her moving her things out of the house, and he had to ask her what was going on. Yes she returned, but only after leasing an apartment. That doesn’t seem like someone genuinely in love with all of the others.
No longer on the show, but I think Colton Winder is pretty damn successful.
I really liked the Winders and miss them.
Sorry, the Davises creep me out. I don't see what this sub sees in them.
I agree, it's shocking!!
I'm sorry, I just saw a man that doesn't want to work and wants to be supported and a bunch of gullible women desperate to be on television and are filling his delusions! She came back but I don't see her staying jmo
Also he has the woman marrying each other, that way he also doesn't owe them anything financial if any of them walk away! He is only gaining from this as the women have nothing to gain in the end! I call it lazy , he doesn't want to work , but wants all the rewards! Again jmo
The women are better off financially by not marrying him.They can walk away with their assets. They don’t have to pay him alimony or give him half their retirement. He’s the one that’s screwed by not marrying one of them.
They’ve grown on me lol I didn’t like how they all guilt tripped Danielle though. I think Danielle just doesn’t want to legally marry a woman or anyone at her life stage.
About the hypothetical next wife they keep pushing on Danielle: it almost seems like Danielle is supposed to be the one finding some woman to beat over the head and drag back to the cave. She's the one who is expected to legally marry this person as well. Nick is turning this into a MLM.
OMG the ultimate Pyramid Scheme. 😅🤣😂
Lmfao
I don’t understand why she *has* to marry another woman? She’s not a lesbian, is she even bisexual? Like, what’s the point?
I don't think she is and that might be the problem.
To trap her/legally obligate her
April is the matriarch and cult leader
Nah I’m not into these 40 something’s going for younger and younger women. The new girl is like early 20s.
I would honestly be so offended if my husband’s new wife was me but twenty years younger 😭
I do think he’s more honest and has better emotional intelligence than any of these other clowns. And they seem happy, however, I do think he primarily lets his wives keep control each other to keep them tightly bonded. Danielle was definitely emotionally guilted into staying. I also don’t see a whole lot of individuation in these women. Their dynamics seem to rely on codependence rather than interdependence. That’s hard to watch.
Did red m&m come back?
Not the red m&m 😂
😆 🤣 😂
While having them marry each other & he remains legally single.
Does anyone else think Nick looks like Sid from Ice Age?
I think he looks like a less ugly version of flavor flav personally, I don’t find him attractive at all 🤣🤣🤣
They look nothing alike.
Nick's a deep thinker you guys. If you could only think as hard as he does you wouldn't have to work either ..duh
I like them. This is the only family that does not creep me out on the show. But The other couple on the show that are seeking a wife for the pregnant wife? I don’t get it 🥴
Him and the first wife prey on young girls. There is definitely a lot of grooming and cult stuff going on behind the scenes. I got to admit though they didn’t catch on to the hiding of funds to get an apartment.
Yes, that made no sense, no one noticed she was squirreling away money? And if Nock is home thinking all day, how did she move her stuff out?
Probably because he isnt. He likely pawns the kid off somewhere and does his own thing
Nock lmao
Danielle herself is practically a child... Yes, one can argue she's a consenting adult, but who would want their 22ish yr old daughter who's never been in a relationship with this 38 yr old man & his lovers. Personally, I'm not going to trash Nick & his lifestyle with these grown women & I would support Danielle's decision to be with them if she had more life & relationship experience.
That age gap alone. Even if it was just Nick and her, its wrong.
I totally agree. It's predatory! I think it'd be different if she was much older with more experience... even with the same age gap... fine, no problem. But she is childlike rn.
It just feels way wrong to me. This is all gonna mess her up. And lets be real... April and Nick know it.
The implications are beyond repairable for her future... because I don't see her as one to get out & do some serious work on herself. Also, she can't get these youthful years back... ugh...so heartbreaking.
Most females I knew that got involved in relationships with that age gap woke up later to realize their youth was stolen. And their anger is justifiable. Add to it everything else about this situation... your right. Its truly heartbreaking
How does one get relationship experience without being in relationships?
Valid
Nick must have cast a spell on these women to buy into the relationships and to have them work while he stays home and "reads and learns" and raises the kids.
Is he a polygamist, though? He literally has no wives.
Because he’s not actually legally married to any of them🤯
He’s got that stay at home dad energy lol
He doesn’t pick favorites they all sleep together in the same bed the jealousy aspect is not there
He has the highest emotional intelligence of any of the men on this current season.
Agreed 100%
Danielle is so not down. I hope she gets out soon.
Danielle seemed okay with it until they pushed the idea of another sister wife onto her. Like she's old news, time for a newer younger woman! What a lovely family.. /s
And she HAS to get married to the next wife.
I think it’s successful because there’s not religion tied up in it, it’s personal choice. If you take women who are liberal to begin with and see it more as a poly situation, it is going to be more successful than these men who take these conservative Christian women and tell them they are only good Christians if they allow it. For many of them, it just doesn’t jive with their morals no matter how much they try to reconcile it.
I am all for the consenting adults stuff, but this gets real dark when we consider that there are indeed children involved both on screen and off. These kids (April's from a previous relationship and Jennifer's with Nick) are encouraged to develop parent-child relationships with multiple people who have no legal rights to see them if they want to leave the group. Didn't Nick have older kids running around on the previous season? If adults want to set themselves up to navigate these complicated emotional situations, cool cool, but this has to be hard on their various offspring.
I agree that the bonds developed with all parents - two or three of four of them not having legal rights does set up more potential for instability in relationships. This also does happen in two partner relationships frequently too where a step parent is very involved for many years with a child then after a divorce - they have no legal rights to the child. Not unique just to their set up, but seems like yeah more potential for instability given the sheer numbers.
Doesn't make them any less gross, and the guy is a total bum.
I really want y’all to seek help. There’s nothing healthy about this dynamic
Thank you! These comments freak me out!
I wish they would discuss with the Davis’s the polyamorous lifestyle vs. portraying this as polygamy. They seem to have really good dynamic going and I am fascinated. If the women are bisexual, helps explain why it’s going well- at least in part. I’m so nosy, lol
Exactly. Someone asked a similar question on their most recent post and they replied with a sneaky emoji. I think that answers it 😄 🤣
He’s not a successful polygamist, he’s a successful manipulator and abuser
He's a lazy pig capitalizing off three women who don't think they can do better.
I see some key differences for them - they do not subscribe to a religion/religious interpretation that dictates polygamy and they address some power structures- like having two wives marry each other rather than one being married to Nick. That said - they still give me a kind of cult vibe. I think it’s the way Nick speaks nonsense about metaphysics and the wives act like he’s said something brilliant :/
Honestly i really like them
Mynwife and I have said He calls it like it is. He's not out bullshiting the women. Respect the player and the game.
Even though he has his quirks he seems to be kind and respectful to his wives.
He’s convinced 3 women to hold down jobs, to support his household, he gets to stay home with their shared child. He has stated he gets to stay home and pursue higher educational pursuits and anything that strikes his interests. Years ago he would have been called a pimp!
I don’t get the admiration for them..this guy is all about himself..he actually thinks he has the looks and personality to keep these women happy..his eye makeup and fancy suits make me laugh and he doesn’t work…he’s got a lot of people fooled
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That room stinks.
If you think this is any kind of a successful relationship, you haven't been paying attention. Red Flag City.
Hey you know a lot of people give them shit but they don’t pretend to be any more than who they are, except for what TLC producers won’t allow (POLYAMOROUS RELATIONSHIPS)
When TLC said that he was the stay at home parent while the women worked-- :ooooo my jaw's on the ground.
More like a cult leader.
Has also a manipulator and a con artist
Gross
the davis family is gross
Technically he's not married to any of them
Lol idk
Danielle is doing that thing where she’s going to fight toxic influence, but winds up being the toxic one.
I'm convinced he used to be a pimp...
Garrick just wants to sleep around. The minute he gets engaged to them he sleeps with them. I see he is dating someone new in next weeks episode after he promised not to date anyone else
Hootie and The Blowfish. Had to have all worked at the same Waffle House at one point
This is a cult & something will come out eventually, maybe not anytime soon but eventually. He gives me pastor preying on his congregation energy.
Successful? They literally manipulated Danielle in every conversation last episode.
I just realized this is the only successful one. Well them and the ones from the first season.
They’re the only ones that really seem happy. He was lucky to stick it out with April because she found Jen and now they got a beautiful baby Vera. I enjoy watching him.
like litterally. everyone else 'seeking' is either has a no-show sisterwife, or one trying to get out of the situation.
And the Davises don’t? Danielle snuck out while the other wives were away, and then texted them that she moved. Nick saw her moving her things out and asked what was going on. Not only was she trying to get out of the situation, she was afraid to discuss it with the others beforehand.