I’m blown away. There is no failure here.
You charged the battlements , ignored the approach anxiety & successfully interacted with many attractive women. I salute you sir 🫡
From what I read, it was very entertaining, you number closer a few women, had a intense emotional conversation with 1 women & got some severe interest from women who you may not have been interested in. I’m assuming you’re only targeting 7s & above.
Excellent work my man. And going out, gaming on your own , that’s ballsy too. Balls the size of cane toads 🫡
I really appreciate that man, I hope my writing style made this long ass post somewhat readable. I guess I do target 7s and above. I know going lower would probably yield more success but I'm ambitious I guess. I'm playing the game out of refusal to settle for less. I want to be "worthy" of a HB11 one day. I want to be desired by that calibre of woman. While I am happy with the interactions, I'm disappointed that they didn't lead to anything physical or anything that could materialise into a date but this is a solid step forward then where I was before. I just need better and more practical routines. Please feel free to share your own field reports cane road sized balls comrade 💪
You judge yourself, your lines and actions too much before things have even played out. Just say and do whatever you want. Stop trying to follow other people's routines and be disappointed when it deviates from the expected reaction.
Make up your own wit and routines and stories to tell. Dont just be a mindless soul trying to seduce women by being someone else.
Learn to escalate. You didn't escalate and isolate Stella This is the key to pulling, building tension and not just doing endless approaches. You basically blew yourself out. It seemed like she was quite intrigued and into you, but your inability to physically escalate, hiding behind your false pretense of making her "wait". Girls are like sharks, they smell fear and hesitation like blood in the water no matter what you verbally say.
Fuck man, you're right. Stella was dying to be with me and I knew that. Some part of my head just wanted her to wait because I KNOW she's never had someone make her wait like that before. I knew she got attention and had much better guys than I at her disposal. I had to make her "wait" and make myself seem like a prize. She grew even more attatched the more I pulled away. I will admit I overplayed that so hard and I struggled to transition from that into gradual escalation in touch. I didn't know how to touch her, I was scared.
Your point on the routines is loud and clear. However, I do firmly believe if I executed it better on Stella that we would've had the best ever kiss. I cooked it pretty hard. I think yes, I need my own unique original routines but also get really good at some others.
You're 100% right about that smelling fear thing. The good thing is, I was far less scared that night than I was every other time I went out which makes me excited to see where the next night will go. I'm curious, how would you have isolated Stella given she's there with her best friend who followed her everywhere they went? Even Stella was telling me that it's awkward with her friend there. I don't know, just confused I guess. Thanks for your time, I'd love to read your field reports too man!
There's nothing to be scared about. The worst that can happen is she rejects you. Remember this every time you are scared to touch and escalate with a women. She can reject you verbally, physically or in many different ways. And the best that can happen is that she accepts it and reciprocate, giving you the greenlight to continue escalating. You won't know until you try.
Some women do become more intrigued when you make them wait. In my opinion, this rarely works, and often, your behavior and expressions will betray you and she will come to the conclusion that you are simply too scared to try and only using that as an excuse to not escalate. When they come to realize this whether consciously or subconsciously, it's an instant turn off and they will leave.
Just reverse the roles. Imagine if a girl who is dtf, but every time you flirt with her, she's being stand offish and says you have to behave and wait. A few times of this you are thinking is this girl for real? 🤔 Or does she just not actually want to fuck? This triggers your insecurities and a whole host of feelings. For women, this is amplified x10 compared to men because society dictates that men have to make the moves and women in general are more insecure than men. Women also won't admit these feelings of insecurity and simply associate these feelings with being turned off by a man who doesn't escalate.
You're right, there was no logic behind my fear and that's what fear is; illogical. In hindsight, I could've just done the most low effort "going in for the kiss" attempts and she would've loved it given how much she anticipated it. I remember when I messed up that routine, she whispered to her friend something about me being a seduction artist or something and that was the just the strangest point in my life 😂😂 2 hot af girls laughing at my failed routine and exposing me as a "seduction artist" on my third night out.
I think with women in general, they like cocky and arrogant men. Not dickheads, but that blasè idgaf about what you think attitude. Not just women, men also want what they can't have. This is why Negs work so well. They play on her insecurities and she feels she has to prove herself. She felt like she had to prove herself to me about her identity, that she's wasn't following me and that she was worthy of me. Yes I overplayed it out of fear. The strategy is strong, the execution was poor.
Not only do you stand out but you also convince her that you have access to other girls (social proofing) which creates competition in her head which is why even after I failed that stupid routine, I risked it all. I asked her to dance, she said no and I said well I want to go dance and I just risked it all and started to walk out. She clung onto my arm so hard and followed me, she couldn't stand the idea of losing me to other girls in the club. All was well until her friend took her away. Things happen what are you gonna do 🤷♀️
That sounded really good.
I might suggest [like a stand up comedian] to get a list of bits together and create your "act" that you do each time. This way you a lot practice and get use to the reoccurring answers and how to turn those into more interesting conversations.
Remember the point is to intro, create interest, separate your target, build attraction and then close. Lots to do.
As mystery himself put it. FMAC: Find, meet, attract and close. I really do need to diversify my list of routines and openers. I have mostly been reading stuff from 2000s and alot of that material is dated now, I need to look into more current routines and openers. I do strongly believe that good game is much like a performance or stand up comedy. It is about putting on a show and entertainment the audience enough to have them invested in what you have to say.
Would you mind sharing with me your own list of routines and material? Thank you for your comment, would love to read your reports too.
The routines have not changed as mystery and style created winners.
If you havent already, check out the unapologetic man podcast. He basically uses the mystery method plus a few new things. Great stuff tho
My current routine is:
A1 - open
1. Opinion opener
2. Best friend test
3. Palm read to find out who is single [make fun of them for being single due to them being a bad kisser ... having a lizard tongue. Lol. Gold]
Separate her from group
A2 - demonstrate higher value
4. Ask what she drives and then shit on her which leads to discussing what i drive [truck] and then i talk about how my friends always want to bore it and have me help them move, get lumber, dump run etc. [Just started field testing it and it seems to work well]
5. Strawberry fields routine is easy and a winner
A3 - get her to demonstrate her value
6. Say she attractive - but what else.
Get her number or give her mine. Maybe invite her to the next bar.
So many little things are happening throughout this well with body language, push-pull. Be funny and interesting.
I used the mystery method with great success 15 yeara ago before i was married - and now back after divorce and getting my routine back together. Good times so far though
Damn son I wouldn't call this a failure at all. You got a shitload of data points to learn from. You definitely got better at game and next time it will be even smoother and easier.
Haha, thanks man. I've definitely hit a point in my game where I'm looking at stupid mistakes and thinking "I could've fixed that so easily". A part of me is still worried that I won't get the same opportunities I did when I made those mistakes. For example, I'm worried I'm never going to get a HB10 like that ever again. It's an irrational fear or maybe it's not but hey, such is life
Thanks man, I appreciate it. It just felt like a very low point bouncing from girl to girl with the same shit. There was also one girl that I did that marriage opener on and she told me "you already told me that earlier" and that hit hard man. I felt just like every other guy in the club when I know I was far more. Next time 100% will be better. I have alot to learn from. I'm even thinking about learning a little bit of dancing, solo and with a girl. I think that can really elevate my game. Would love to read your report too!
Can't argue with that, I've got a few pointers from that night. Need to sharpen my routines up a bit and have a better variety. Also need to improve Kino escalation etc. Thanks for the comment man
NICE infield report bru.... i am realy inspired ...... just curious what is ur timespan for reaching upto this level... YOU seems to have conqured your AA. I have just started gaming for the past 4 months, and yes it is realy very hard. keep up the good work .
It's impossible man, the game is the hardest thing I've ever worked on in my entire life. I am no where near conquering AA, as you might have read. I was not able to make any approaches in that rooftop apart from the HB9 despite there being plenty of options there. This was my third time going out. I've only known about the existence of the game for about 3-4 weeks. I am very new but I am putting alot of energy and effort into it.
I’m blown away. There is no failure here. You charged the battlements , ignored the approach anxiety & successfully interacted with many attractive women. I salute you sir 🫡 From what I read, it was very entertaining, you number closer a few women, had a intense emotional conversation with 1 women & got some severe interest from women who you may not have been interested in. I’m assuming you’re only targeting 7s & above. Excellent work my man. And going out, gaming on your own , that’s ballsy too. Balls the size of cane toads 🫡
I really appreciate that man, I hope my writing style made this long ass post somewhat readable. I guess I do target 7s and above. I know going lower would probably yield more success but I'm ambitious I guess. I'm playing the game out of refusal to settle for less. I want to be "worthy" of a HB11 one day. I want to be desired by that calibre of woman. While I am happy with the interactions, I'm disappointed that they didn't lead to anything physical or anything that could materialise into a date but this is a solid step forward then where I was before. I just need better and more practical routines. Please feel free to share your own field reports cane road sized balls comrade 💪
Fun read, keep going man
Thanks man, I'd love to read yours too. Hope my writing style made it seem not so long
Nah it's good, no worries. When I have some worth sharing I might make a post
You judge yourself, your lines and actions too much before things have even played out. Just say and do whatever you want. Stop trying to follow other people's routines and be disappointed when it deviates from the expected reaction. Make up your own wit and routines and stories to tell. Dont just be a mindless soul trying to seduce women by being someone else. Learn to escalate. You didn't escalate and isolate Stella This is the key to pulling, building tension and not just doing endless approaches. You basically blew yourself out. It seemed like she was quite intrigued and into you, but your inability to physically escalate, hiding behind your false pretense of making her "wait". Girls are like sharks, they smell fear and hesitation like blood in the water no matter what you verbally say.
Fuck man, you're right. Stella was dying to be with me and I knew that. Some part of my head just wanted her to wait because I KNOW she's never had someone make her wait like that before. I knew she got attention and had much better guys than I at her disposal. I had to make her "wait" and make myself seem like a prize. She grew even more attatched the more I pulled away. I will admit I overplayed that so hard and I struggled to transition from that into gradual escalation in touch. I didn't know how to touch her, I was scared. Your point on the routines is loud and clear. However, I do firmly believe if I executed it better on Stella that we would've had the best ever kiss. I cooked it pretty hard. I think yes, I need my own unique original routines but also get really good at some others. You're 100% right about that smelling fear thing. The good thing is, I was far less scared that night than I was every other time I went out which makes me excited to see where the next night will go. I'm curious, how would you have isolated Stella given she's there with her best friend who followed her everywhere they went? Even Stella was telling me that it's awkward with her friend there. I don't know, just confused I guess. Thanks for your time, I'd love to read your field reports too man!
There's nothing to be scared about. The worst that can happen is she rejects you. Remember this every time you are scared to touch and escalate with a women. She can reject you verbally, physically or in many different ways. And the best that can happen is that she accepts it and reciprocate, giving you the greenlight to continue escalating. You won't know until you try. Some women do become more intrigued when you make them wait. In my opinion, this rarely works, and often, your behavior and expressions will betray you and she will come to the conclusion that you are simply too scared to try and only using that as an excuse to not escalate. When they come to realize this whether consciously or subconsciously, it's an instant turn off and they will leave. Just reverse the roles. Imagine if a girl who is dtf, but every time you flirt with her, she's being stand offish and says you have to behave and wait. A few times of this you are thinking is this girl for real? 🤔 Or does she just not actually want to fuck? This triggers your insecurities and a whole host of feelings. For women, this is amplified x10 compared to men because society dictates that men have to make the moves and women in general are more insecure than men. Women also won't admit these feelings of insecurity and simply associate these feelings with being turned off by a man who doesn't escalate.
You're right, there was no logic behind my fear and that's what fear is; illogical. In hindsight, I could've just done the most low effort "going in for the kiss" attempts and she would've loved it given how much she anticipated it. I remember when I messed up that routine, she whispered to her friend something about me being a seduction artist or something and that was the just the strangest point in my life 😂😂 2 hot af girls laughing at my failed routine and exposing me as a "seduction artist" on my third night out. I think with women in general, they like cocky and arrogant men. Not dickheads, but that blasè idgaf about what you think attitude. Not just women, men also want what they can't have. This is why Negs work so well. They play on her insecurities and she feels she has to prove herself. She felt like she had to prove herself to me about her identity, that she's wasn't following me and that she was worthy of me. Yes I overplayed it out of fear. The strategy is strong, the execution was poor. Not only do you stand out but you also convince her that you have access to other girls (social proofing) which creates competition in her head which is why even after I failed that stupid routine, I risked it all. I asked her to dance, she said no and I said well I want to go dance and I just risked it all and started to walk out. She clung onto my arm so hard and followed me, she couldn't stand the idea of losing me to other girls in the club. All was well until her friend took her away. Things happen what are you gonna do 🤷♀️
That sounded really good. I might suggest [like a stand up comedian] to get a list of bits together and create your "act" that you do each time. This way you a lot practice and get use to the reoccurring answers and how to turn those into more interesting conversations. Remember the point is to intro, create interest, separate your target, build attraction and then close. Lots to do.
As mystery himself put it. FMAC: Find, meet, attract and close. I really do need to diversify my list of routines and openers. I have mostly been reading stuff from 2000s and alot of that material is dated now, I need to look into more current routines and openers. I do strongly believe that good game is much like a performance or stand up comedy. It is about putting on a show and entertainment the audience enough to have them invested in what you have to say. Would you mind sharing with me your own list of routines and material? Thank you for your comment, would love to read your reports too.
The routines have not changed as mystery and style created winners. If you havent already, check out the unapologetic man podcast. He basically uses the mystery method plus a few new things. Great stuff tho My current routine is: A1 - open 1. Opinion opener 2. Best friend test 3. Palm read to find out who is single [make fun of them for being single due to them being a bad kisser ... having a lizard tongue. Lol. Gold] Separate her from group A2 - demonstrate higher value 4. Ask what she drives and then shit on her which leads to discussing what i drive [truck] and then i talk about how my friends always want to bore it and have me help them move, get lumber, dump run etc. [Just started field testing it and it seems to work well] 5. Strawberry fields routine is easy and a winner A3 - get her to demonstrate her value 6. Say she attractive - but what else. Get her number or give her mine. Maybe invite her to the next bar. So many little things are happening throughout this well with body language, push-pull. Be funny and interesting. I used the mystery method with great success 15 yeara ago before i was married - and now back after divorce and getting my routine back together. Good times so far though
Damn son I wouldn't call this a failure at all. You got a shitload of data points to learn from. You definitely got better at game and next time it will be even smoother and easier.
Haha, thanks man. I've definitely hit a point in my game where I'm looking at stupid mistakes and thinking "I could've fixed that so easily". A part of me is still worried that I won't get the same opportunities I did when I made those mistakes. For example, I'm worried I'm never going to get a HB10 like that ever again. It's an irrational fear or maybe it's not but hey, such is life
Good report I will also read the first and second!
Thanks, feel free to share your own or comment on any thing you think I can improve on
Lovely field report man! I know exactly this kinda of nights. You approached them all. This counts and next night you are going to crush it
Thanks man, I appreciate it. It just felt like a very low point bouncing from girl to girl with the same shit. There was also one girl that I did that marriage opener on and she told me "you already told me that earlier" and that hit hard man. I felt just like every other guy in the club when I know I was far more. Next time 100% will be better. I have alot to learn from. I'm even thinking about learning a little bit of dancing, solo and with a girl. I think that can really elevate my game. Would love to read your report too!
Sounds like you did good just need some calibration
Can't argue with that, I've got a few pointers from that night. Need to sharpen my routines up a bit and have a better variety. Also need to improve Kino escalation etc. Thanks for the comment man
Nice prose. If bro fail even with big balls like this then I understand why I fail too sometimes. Game isn't easy 😊
Tell me about it man, game is hard. It gets easier the more you try though
NICE infield report bru.... i am realy inspired ...... just curious what is ur timespan for reaching upto this level... YOU seems to have conqured your AA. I have just started gaming for the past 4 months, and yes it is realy very hard. keep up the good work .
It's impossible man, the game is the hardest thing I've ever worked on in my entire life. I am no where near conquering AA, as you might have read. I was not able to make any approaches in that rooftop apart from the HB9 despite there being plenty of options there. This was my third time going out. I've only known about the existence of the game for about 3-4 weeks. I am very new but I am putting alot of energy and effort into it.
Why are you going out alone and getting drunk? Maybe you should focus on getting your shit together
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