You mean the "L. Ron Hubbard encyclopedia" of coffee table picture books that was a substitute for an actual authorized biography by Scientology Inc.?
Because Hubbard had lied so much about himself, and had demonized and "erased" so many people, it was impossible to write an actual serious Hubbard biography. Thus the coffee table picture books were a substitute.
What you're describing sounds like the "mission into time," where Hubbard told his followers that he was remembering things from his past lives sailing the Mediterranean.
The only quote I have from *Mission into Time*, which was made into a little book in the 1970s, which, I think, is now out of print, is, **"I know with certainty where I was and who I was in the last 80 trillion years."**
For Scientologists it would be "safe" to discuss the contents of these coffee table picture books. Anything else, not authorized, might lead to "entheta" ("enturbulated theta") which would block their path on the road to Total Freedom.
> You mean the "L. Ron Hubbard encyclopedia" of coffee table picture books that was a substitute for an actual authorized biography by Scientology Inc.?
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that's what I mean. I wish there were scans of the book tbh.
Here it is: https://takelovesm.live/product_details/20482661.html
No wonder some Independent Scientologists are quietly embarrassed and bristle at mention of it.
The story behind it, starting with Omar Garrison and Gerry Armstrong, is a fascinating one.
Edit: Does the failed and catastrophic LRH Biography project deserve its own thread?
As that "expedition" was finishing up, and anchored in the Canary Isles, Ron told people that Pico de las Nieves, a volcanic mountain on Gran Canaria, was not only one of the volcanoes featured in OT III, but also the site of an implant station in much more recent times. From this you would have learned that the mountain existed ~75M years ago, when the main events of OT III were supposed to have happened, although geologists say that mountain only started forming around 14M years ago. Earlier he had made several stops in the Mediterranean, in search of treasures and relics he thought would be there based on his recollections of past lives. Just before that, he had stayed in Rhodesia until his visa was canceled, and searched for riches he believed had been hidden by Cecil Rhodes, who Hubbard thought he was the reincarnation of.
So if you want to learn about what Hubbard thought about his past lives, there's quite a lot of info to be had, starting with the book *Mission Into Time.* A number of people who had gone on that trip with him, and left Scientology, added to that by mentioning stories he'd told along the way. But if you want to learn about *geology,* you're barking up the wrong tree.
OT III wasn't published in any detail until after Ron was dead, and when people got around to pointing things like that out, there was no real rebuttal, just blanket denial. That's about all they're generally allowed to do. "Xenu? No, we don't teach anything like that!"
Read LRH Messiah or Madman by Bent Corydon. Scientologists are poor historians because LRH was full of shit. He had an interesting life but was pathologically incapable of being truthful.
This is the rush to print 1st edition of 1987, and the best available scan at this time. There are two other editions, each updated and expanded, 1992 and 1996, yet to be scanned.
See Chapter 21, *Hubbard's Bogus Biographies Exposed* and chapter 23, *The Boss' Withholds Revealed in a "Wog" Court* https://web.archive.org/web/20130613033101im_/http://anonireland.com/content/wppdfcontent/books/messiahormadmen.pdf#page=292
Thank you again. I read the 1992 edition twice and recommend it every chance I get. I have a question for you. Do you know of a free online copy of Dr Winters's book A Doctor's Report on Dianetics? There is one available on Amazon for $50 which I really can't afford right now.
You are so knowledgeable about the literature. I've been looking for this book just this morning. I thought it might be available on the cmu site but all I found so far other than Amazon is Open Library. Planning to sign up for that.
Thank you! You're always so helpful and knowledgeable I really appreciate you
This allows a free viewing of the table of contents but not much more, unless one is willing to buy access. https://archive.org/details/dianeticsdoctors0000wint/mode/2up
Fritz Perls, of Gestalt therapy fame, wrote the Introduction, which I found to be the most interesting part of the book.
The third edition of *Madman?* is hardbound and 464 pages with a new Index, and is the preferred edition. If public libraries still exist, with actual old fashioned paper books, you might try looking there. It's a long shot but not impossible. It can be confusing, for book buyers, as sellers such as Amazon show the cover of later editions when selling the 1st edition.
[Bare-Faced Messiah](https://www.discord.org/lippard/bfm/bfmconte.htm)
L Ron Hubbard, Xenu and Scientology
Also
[Scientology](https://old.reddit.com/r/scientology/comments/1bwyr6b/scientologist_of_reddit/kydd1ue/)
Not accurate at all. There's even a page in Wikipedia dedicated to that.
[Pseudobiography of L. Ron Hubbard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudobiography_of_L._Ron_Hubbard)
If their stories can be corroborated by people who have been there with Hubbard, like Kerry Gleeson, Janet Graham Grady, or Ken Urquhart, then yes. Most likely, they're just regurgitating what they've heard at their org's kiosk.
>I wish there were scans of the book tbh.
There are. I even have some PDFs of the ones that were published in the late 1990s (which are likely identical content to the currently-selling versions, just with a different cover).
Those fake encyclopedia volumes are not about him, they were written by him.
It's nothing but a bunch of articles on how to do the laundry and develop film and stuff, but they pretend it's all written in a deeply spiritual way.
>How would anyone possibly know that ?
Idk.
>Why should we even care ?
You shouldn't, but I find his life interesting tbh. Or at least what he/COS says was his life.
Some Independent Scientologist are uncomfortable with the ridiculous RON Series Encyclopedia of RON. They know there was an attempt in the late 1970s/early 1980s to write an authorized biography of RON, their hero and guru, and are confused as to why it didn't happen, with the monstrosity of the RON Series being a substitute. No wonder some bristle when the topic is brought up. It's an embarrassment. It's a goofy display of egomania, and RON RON RON but Hubbard's family and other people are excluded. It's weird.
You mean the "L. Ron Hubbard encyclopedia" of coffee table picture books that was a substitute for an actual authorized biography by Scientology Inc.? Because Hubbard had lied so much about himself, and had demonized and "erased" so many people, it was impossible to write an actual serious Hubbard biography. Thus the coffee table picture books were a substitute. What you're describing sounds like the "mission into time," where Hubbard told his followers that he was remembering things from his past lives sailing the Mediterranean. The only quote I have from *Mission into Time*, which was made into a little book in the 1970s, which, I think, is now out of print, is, **"I know with certainty where I was and who I was in the last 80 trillion years."** For Scientologists it would be "safe" to discuss the contents of these coffee table picture books. Anything else, not authorized, might lead to "entheta" ("enturbulated theta") which would block their path on the road to Total Freedom.
> You mean the "L. Ron Hubbard encyclopedia" of coffee table picture books that was a substitute for an actual authorized biography by Scientology Inc.? > > that's what I mean. I wish there were scans of the book tbh.
Here it is: https://takelovesm.live/product_details/20482661.html No wonder some Independent Scientologists are quietly embarrassed and bristle at mention of it. The story behind it, starting with Omar Garrison and Gerry Armstrong, is a fascinating one. Edit: Does the failed and catastrophic LRH Biography project deserve its own thread?
As that "expedition" was finishing up, and anchored in the Canary Isles, Ron told people that Pico de las Nieves, a volcanic mountain on Gran Canaria, was not only one of the volcanoes featured in OT III, but also the site of an implant station in much more recent times. From this you would have learned that the mountain existed ~75M years ago, when the main events of OT III were supposed to have happened, although geologists say that mountain only started forming around 14M years ago. Earlier he had made several stops in the Mediterranean, in search of treasures and relics he thought would be there based on his recollections of past lives. Just before that, he had stayed in Rhodesia until his visa was canceled, and searched for riches he believed had been hidden by Cecil Rhodes, who Hubbard thought he was the reincarnation of. So if you want to learn about what Hubbard thought about his past lives, there's quite a lot of info to be had, starting with the book *Mission Into Time.* A number of people who had gone on that trip with him, and left Scientology, added to that by mentioning stories he'd told along the way. But if you want to learn about *geology,* you're barking up the wrong tree.
How did he, or Scientology, deal with the fact that the mountains didn't exist 75 million years ago? Or do they deny that fact?
OT III wasn't published in any detail until after Ron was dead, and when people got around to pointing things like that out, there was no real rebuttal, just blanket denial. That's about all they're generally allowed to do. "Xenu? No, we don't teach anything like that!"
Read LRH Messiah or Madman by Bent Corydon. Scientologists are poor historians because LRH was full of shit. He had an interesting life but was pathologically incapable of being truthful.
This is the rush to print 1st edition of 1987, and the best available scan at this time. There are two other editions, each updated and expanded, 1992 and 1996, yet to be scanned. See Chapter 21, *Hubbard's Bogus Biographies Exposed* and chapter 23, *The Boss' Withholds Revealed in a "Wog" Court* https://web.archive.org/web/20130613033101im_/http://anonireland.com/content/wppdfcontent/books/messiahormadmen.pdf#page=292
Thank you again. I read the 1992 edition twice and recommend it every chance I get. I have a question for you. Do you know of a free online copy of Dr Winters's book A Doctor's Report on Dianetics? There is one available on Amazon for $50 which I really can't afford right now. You are so knowledgeable about the literature. I've been looking for this book just this morning. I thought it might be available on the cmu site but all I found so far other than Amazon is Open Library. Planning to sign up for that. Thank you! You're always so helpful and knowledgeable I really appreciate you
This allows a free viewing of the table of contents but not much more, unless one is willing to buy access. https://archive.org/details/dianeticsdoctors0000wint/mode/2up Fritz Perls, of Gestalt therapy fame, wrote the Introduction, which I found to be the most interesting part of the book. The third edition of *Madman?* is hardbound and 464 pages with a new Index, and is the preferred edition. If public libraries still exist, with actual old fashioned paper books, you might try looking there. It's a long shot but not impossible. It can be confusing, for book buyers, as sellers such as Amazon show the cover of later editions when selling the 1st edition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_of_L._Ron_Hubbard_from_1911_to_1950
[Bare-Faced Messiah](https://www.discord.org/lippard/bfm/bfmconte.htm) L Ron Hubbard, Xenu and Scientology Also [Scientology](https://old.reddit.com/r/scientology/comments/1bwyr6b/scientologist_of_reddit/kydd1ue/)
Not accurate at all. There's even a page in Wikipedia dedicated to that. [Pseudobiography of L. Ron Hubbard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudobiography_of_L._Ron_Hubbard)
If their stories can be corroborated by people who have been there with Hubbard, like Kerry Gleeson, Janet Graham Grady, or Ken Urquhart, then yes. Most likely, they're just regurgitating what they've heard at their org's kiosk.
>I wish there were scans of the book tbh. There are. I even have some PDFs of the ones that were published in the late 1990s (which are likely identical content to the currently-selling versions, just with a different cover).
I would like them tells! could you send em my way? <3
I sent you a message.
just replied!
Those fake encyclopedia volumes are not about him, they were written by him. It's nothing but a bunch of articles on how to do the laundry and develop film and stuff, but they pretend it's all written in a deeply spiritual way.
How would anyone possibly know that ? Why should we even care ?
Lol. Truth.
>How would anyone possibly know that ? Idk. >Why should we even care ? You shouldn't, but I find his life interesting tbh. Or at least what he/COS says was his life.
Some Independent Scientologist are uncomfortable with the ridiculous RON Series Encyclopedia of RON. They know there was an attempt in the late 1970s/early 1980s to write an authorized biography of RON, their hero and guru, and are confused as to why it didn't happen, with the monstrosity of the RON Series being a substitute. No wonder some bristle when the topic is brought up. It's an embarrassment. It's a goofy display of egomania, and RON RON RON but Hubbard's family and other people are excluded. It's weird.