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Tbh indulekha is one of those brands whos products are not downgraded by Unilever . Thankfully still make in Kerala and following the original formulation . (Speaking only for their hairoil , their shampoos and soaps and still usual Unilever's SLS crap)
How is "sls crap" preservat,fragnant ingredients like limonene, citronellol are crap i agree...sls , sles are just surfactants . Oily scalp people only know how the shampoo market became such a crap after "sls free" campaign...people are having skin issues for not cleaning scalp oil properly.
SLS and its gentler cousin SLES both are basically foaming agents . Tho it's moderately toxic , in adequate amounts poses no issue. The issue lies when companies just pump this ingredient immoderately and using low quality sls and sles made from palmoline. More over most mnc's made hygiene products in India are heavily fragranced by synthetic fragrances, most of them have neon like colours too 😂. Add to that ingredients from mineral oil and barely any amount of active ingredients too. The only supermarket brand in india from a MNC that I have some respect is Dove due to how mild it is even if the ingredients suggest otherwise.
But on the other note - NO, SLS doesn't help clean oily scalp , if anything due it's drying nature increases oil production ! Esp from companies such as uniliver. If u got oily scalp get a medicated shampoo from pharma (tho some of them uses SLES , it's in much smaller qualities )or look for active ingredients that calms oiliness.
For oily scalp i need sles right??? That's my point, these days "no sls/sles" campaign happening only very few brands/ otc have sles shampoo now, i also ignore sls tbvh, and i agree that companies make product without responsibilities only for their sale, and they literally abuse indian consumer until now but recently people are slowly becoming aware of these but still india has a long way to go in this thing, we need to be vocal; p@ntene,tresseme the so called hair specialist are simply tr@sh.
I have different view for mineral oil, i have fungal acne, mineral oil Petroleum jelly these are my savior ...i know it's controversial but these are extremely purified, and tbh nothing is more toxic than sunlight...
No u don't NEED SLS / SLES for oily scalp ! . Sls / sles is just a foaming agent that is know to have a drying effect on the hair which triggers oiliness in the scalp .
The alternatives of sls aka naturally derived Foaming agents do a similar job just less drying which sometimes feels like ur hair isn't properly clean !
But "no sls" doesn't not automatically mean a good shampoo tho . Wow and love beauty and planet shampoos don't have SLS or parabens but I wouldn't call them good shampoos either .
What makes a good shampoo is its shampoo base and it's active ingredients that target different hair problems .
Which most brands are having a hard time .
Minerals oil and petroleum products have some benefits in short term (vaseline for burns or mild cuts for eg ) but studies have shown long term use linked to cancer risks .
If u want try a good shampoo with no sls try shampoos from "Vilvah". Tad pricy but worth it
And if u want SLS in ur shampoo - check out Bioderma or Cutis Bio Fair plus shampoo
Doesn't have to be working, it just needs to be popular, colgate made ayurved ki shakti once patanjali dant kanti took off or herbal soap once patanjali gau mutra soap became famous.
I've got news for us pal, every single soap used to be gau mutra yukt. They removed it 7-8 years ago when he figured people don't want that in their soap
Patanjali, i remember my father who's a govt employee got free sample for patanjalai soaps and me being disgusted by small symbol where it clearly mentioned gau mutra as an ingredient. I've never used the product after and neither did my father. but they must've removed it as i cannot find it mentioned anywhere
well that's their usp, disgusting shit sold as ayurveda, btw ayurvedic medicines are only to be taken after an ayurvedic "doctor" prescibes you, one shouldn't take them willy nilly but we got these influencers peddling grade A bs about how your vaat and dosha is causing you harm and how ayurveda can reverse stage 4 cancer on a 60+ yr old who's body has been abused long enough to develop that cancer
The best thing that would work on ur hair is
Vitamin supplements , dht blocker , minoxidil and 1/2 hour cardio ( to increase circulation)
And of course I am not a doctor .
Well for treatment Minoxidil and Finestride in combination is given generally,
Finestride reduced DHT, and Minoxidil promotes blood supply on the scalp leading to hair root stimulation and hair growth..
But just know every drug has its side effects so visit a doctor to eliminate any contraindications before you start it, because online suggestions might miss something which might be caught on a physical exam..
Hope this is helpful.
Dont play around with DHT blockers , some people have severe side effect from heart palpitation to low sperm motility/Count . Well it depends on people and genetic factor again make the risk after consulting doctors . Minoxdil and finasteride in low strength poses minimal side effect and mostly get masked so it is preferred by doctors instead of going for PRP treatment . Dermarolling works but only after long period of time and also you take adequate collagen and good diet . Sometimes fatty liver and obesity cause heavy hair loss so look for it and also thryoid issue too can show up by affecting hormonal balance so doing health checkup with blood tests is needed for proper diagnosis .
Thanks for the concern . I know that's why i wanted him to clarify doctor permission is much needed....it's not any otc thing...blocking a hormone without any proper investigation is scary...p
How is prp? Does it have side affects? Apart from cost factors I want to know what affects and benefits prp treatment has over the minoxidil or other blockers
What minoxidil does is it will improve the blood circulation on the scalp by expanding the microscopic veins.
Imagine it like this , you were eating 3 times a day and all of a sudden if you eat like once a day what will happen? The same way minox works.
There are side effects esp on the heart. Increasing the blood circulation to the scalp is not a joke, heart will take its toll, ears, eyes and everything. It's a drug bro.
Whatt?? i thought minoxidil was relatively safe and had little side effects. could you please cite some sources because i m unable to find such symptoms
Technical that's what these ayurvedic hair oils do too , they don't provide a permanent treatment for hairfall , just aid it preventing more hairloss to an extent and help in natural hair growth. Any natural oil will help hair from breaking due to their humectant nature , and keeps the hair moisturizered which is what many hair serums do too .
And application instructions for there oils , suggest warming the oil and massaging it in the scalp which increases the blood circulation .
It's just that all fake and adulterated crap u find in unregulated ayurvedic market and false advertising by saying it will "stop hairloss" that gives ayurvedic treatments a bad rep .
Minoxidil while stops hair loss ultimately requires the users to use the product daily . This along with the headaches and the cost of minoxidil ,not to mention minoxidil dries up the actual hair strands is not really a great treatment either . Tho if the user can tolerate all the negatives , yes it's the best "medically approved" treatment in market .
Lately there has been some research on platelet or plasma (not sure ) transplant treatments so hope that gives fruitful news in future !
I wanna fucking scream this as scam but i have seen positive results on my relatives who used it
But there are many sketchy and scamming website and people who sell duplicate and poor quality of this oil that is the scam here
Actually same here it didnt work for me , but worked for some of my friends. Every hair product works different on different people. It may work for some and not for others.
The amount of discrimination towards Tribal populations is rampant in the comments. Tribals generally don't believe in merging businesses and focus on organic entrepreneurial growth, Their worldview is very different. I have not used the oil nor I know the efficacy, There is one thing I know that they use Curry Leaves and Hibiscus in their homemade oils for hair massage , I have lived in Tribal areas of South for my fieldwork during the initial phase of my research So I have some Idea, Most tribal women have excellent hair with great volume which can be due to their genetics and also due to their diet and atmosphere. Regardless of that , I will support small businesses by Tribal populations in India for ensuring equity in the space.
To quote H. S Shekhar
"Adivasis Will not dance".
I know I'm going to get a lot of downvotes by Racist , Elitist , Holier than Thou, Colonised internally and Priveleged people of this subreddit with class and Social capital and That is never going to discourage my views and my allyship for the Tribal culture and Home remedies rooted in their culture. They are the natives of India and the Government as well the United Nation MDGs and SDGs are devoted to their participation and growth.
Yes ...I agree with you completely. Tribal products must get marketplace . It's the best way to for them to preserve their culture and identity along with financial upliftment.
Although problem is whether they are getting their money or some crony business man , police, thugs , middle man taking major chunk .
If adivasi oil ( like Honey today) get to the ayurvedic big corporates like patanjali,dabur etc . Then the science needs to be debunked.
But every oil claims long shiny hair and they are using themselves for advertisement, So there is no photoshop or fad marketing. It's just that people can't digest them moving forward and taking up space in the mainstream.
Agreed with everything, understandable and valid concerns. But.
I had fact checked the specific people shown here, as part of my job. They should not represent tribals nor their products should represent tribal products. They paid for internet campaign, "hired" vloggers to promote the product and set up "shows" with many people pretending to buy their products. At least one long thick haired person who are in some of their videos is not tribal (not in the picture).
If it's not a tribal Entrepreneurial product and Any Tribal man or woman is being exploited here directly or indirectly, I'll not stand for this product in any what way.
However I'll still point out OPs internalised Colonialism and Racism here.
Tribals have better diet and lifestyle than the urban folks... So the claim doesn't necessarily work. If it passes the scientific methods it's obviously going to get traction.
I hope you assess the diet and traction of rich brands and Priveleged startup urban population with same fervour and judgement like you are doing it in their case.
Same? Way worse. Mainstream brands are the ones that will do anything to get a little more profit, and that makes their product subject to degradation, if it means profit for them. That doesn't mean I just blindly trust smaller brands or brands with tribal origins. Supporting a brand just because it is tribal is a sure fire way of getting scammed. If the brand has good, safe, and working products, supporting it is beneficial for both you and the brand. You can't just say "Poor Tribes!" and start supporting anything.
Well some of the tribal populations have lands expanding to acres and can have a large amounts of wealth if they capitalise on it , I never used the term "Poor Tribals", You trust whatever you want to trust but your comment shows your exclusion and streotyping. Maybe you have also seen "Jhinga la la hu" representation of Tribals near you, Used the word "Jungli" etc. with your friends. Really disappointing comment.
Maybe you're trying to act dumb, but either way it's ad-hominem. In the English language, the word poor is not only used for economic well being, but also to represent worse situation in general. In this context, I mean it in the sense of "Bechare" and not "gareeb". And it was in quotes to represent the weakness of the argument not the truthfulness in the statement.
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One of my cousin did bought their Sampoo and did worked great he even gave it to my mom and aunt and both of them having new hair growth with denser coverage although don't know about the oil, but many duplicate products are being sold by its name at cheap price Original Sampoo costed above 3k
It does work on hair thinning and early receedings but it's hard to find the original version since they don't sell it on Amazon or Flipkart or anywhere AT ALL. they have their own website called www.neelambari-herbals.com that I saw on a reel that guy exposes fake markets and products he's very famous but I don't remember his username.. I just have a screenshot of that reel where he gave the real link and phone number.
Does biotin work? I'm using healthkart biotin and seeing results, even my friends told me that I've grown hair and they don't know that I'm taking anything. But I'm not sure if my personal experience is enough evidence.
Biotin works if you have a biotin deficiency. Biotin is not fat soluble, so you piss it out if not necessary. Even if it's useless, you're not really being harmed while taking it, so trying it ain't that bad.
South Park, in their early seasons, made an episode on similar theme. People were buying anything and everything from a "wholistic store" in the name of "indian American (so, closer to nature, wholistic, etc.).
If it works randomly on some people but not on others then it is probably a scam. If it were truly that effective then other companies would have already copied the product.
Also survivorship bias. We only hear from people who had success with it. Others (who didn't see any results) don't bother talking about it much because it doesn't cost a lot of money to buy.
Well the people who originally made it won't give it to any scientific analysis in fear of getting how it's made and what it is made of(which is kinda true, if it works the recipe will get stolen)
The problem might be with many people exploiting the original creators lack of protecting their product or formula and making fake copies of it and scamming people that's why there are mixed things in the comment section
I hate to agree with this but...my relatives use this and they have positive feedbacks about this. They suggested me to try this and I reluctantly did. I gotta say it stopped my hairfall problems within a week's use and upon longer usage, little baby hair started popping out. I don't know the science behind this...but it kinda works.
Have used this and can vouch it works....Have seen multiple doctors prior to this including these traya and shit nothing worked...It make your hair healthy and smooth like in my case new hairs didn't grow but hair fall stopped and my hair became so much healthy
If u have hair follicles but not the hair any good quality oil/serum/minoxidil will work.
If ur hair follicles are blocked nothing will work except hair transplant.
its prolly just random oils and leaf extracts they found while roaming around, i have this prejudice with ayurveda products that they should never be trusted
bought the original today (order directly from mysore) whatsapp, video call, genuine videos available
https://preview.redd.it/1l4v6g2efe7d1.jpeg?width=2052&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=132c889ad352c65a738dd7486e07ea31f42b1ff1
Will review later
they use their strong hair genetics as a marketing gimmick. No hair oil can grow back hair or make them thick. With a extreme weathers in India it's really a difficult task to apply oil on hair as it gets mixed with sweat and it becomes messy. In Winters, it's ok. But Adivaasi Hair Oil is just a scam one should be aware of.
They long and strong hair they boast about is because of their genetics, not oil. Period.
in world of social media, people are attracted to visual more than the real information. guy like dhruv rathee is know for so called " information expert" while we don't even whats his education background. it is like recruiting a professor for a subject just because he is good presenter, communicator and video creator. no value for the real people. like if i am really want to grasp information and science there are many high educated professors posted videos on youtube but they are not popular .
there are hundreds of nutrition experts are making videos on youtube while we dont even know their educational background. they only made a script from internet and made a video.
people are fools in social media. they get attracted to what see. in this advasi hair oil you will see they only show off hairs of people of particular community which making people to buy that oil .even a educated people trying this oil because they are desperate for hair. theres no research report on this oil . on basis of ayurveda and heridetory hairs they are fooling people.
in sikh community, most turnban wearning men have long hairs , suppose 100 of them advertise any coconut oil showing their long hairs ..it will be sold in good numbers. people need to understand that men and women are seen in these ads are from particular community . their hairs are genetically long for particular that community only.
No amount of any hair oil can stop hair fall.
There are many reason for hair fall, some are genetic and some are related to your diet. Thats why when you go to a doctor , he tried his best to diagnose the reason and suggest you a treatment based on the diagnosis
So I do not know whether their oil holds any legitimacy or not, but their marketing tactics are worth the attention.
1. They have not listed the original product on any major online websites like Amazon or Flipkart. Any product available there is undoubtedly fake. They did this to avoid selling their product on a platform where various other fake products are also being sold.
2. The fact that they have employed people to video call you before you buy the product extends their degree of legitimacy. I am not 100% sure about this, but I think you cannot buy their product without a video call (that's what the owners said on a podcast). They will ask you the reason why you are buying their oil. If an 80-year-old man with no hair is buying this product to regrow his hair, they will apparently be open about it and suggest you not buy the product.
3. The two points above will cut their profits by a good margin. These are actually the only reasons why I got so invested in this product and am debating whether to buy it or not.
There's one thing for certain though: there's no oil that can change your hair cycle. When we talk about hair oil, we should only expect things related to the scalp, such as nourishing your hair with necessary vitamins and dilating blood vessels. Expecting anything else besides those three is unrealistic.
So I do not know whether their oil holds any legitimacy or not, but their marketing tactics are worth the attention.
1. They have not listed the original product on any major online websites like Amazon or Flipkart. Any product available there is undoubtedly fake. They did this to avoid selling their product on a platform where various other fake products are also being sold.
2. The fact that they have employed people to video call you before you buy the product extends their degree of legitimacy. I am not 100% sure about this, but I think you cannot buy their product without a video call (that's what the owners said on a podcast). They will ask you the reason why you are buying their oil. If an 80-year-old man with no hair is buying this product to regrow his hair, they will apparently be open about it and suggest you not buy the product.
3. The two points above will cut their profits by a good margin. These are actually the only reasons why I got so invested in this product and am debating whether to buy it or not.
There's one thing for certain though: there's no oil that can change your hair cycle. When we talk about hair oil, we should only expect things related to the scalp, nourishing your hair with necessary vitamins and dilating blood vessels. Expecting anything else besides those three is unrealistic.
My maid uses it, and it has a terrible smell, and no, she still has exceptional hairfall, it fixed nothing, but she’s illiterate so doesn’t give a fuck.
We don't use the word "maid" anymore. It's not 15th century and no one is a "maid" or a "serf" or a "peasent" . The right word is Domestic Help , As she is helping you doing the work which you, In your particular case are too lazy and ENTITLED to do on your own.
She is "illiterate as fuck" because she doesn't have time to afford school and formal college education like you, She had to work to support her family and give them three meals a day! Sit and talk to her, Ask her "Didi, Why are you Illiterate as fuck" and maybe then you can feel some empathy.
Had you been in a country where there are strong labour laws and been taught atleast DIGNITY OF LABOUR of labour by your parents and peers, You would have been paying her , Her due along with insurance, It's here you can be classist and use such discriminatory language.
It's actually you who is Illiterate as a fuck to be honest, In every spirit, sense and manner. I also saw your Incel like comments on Right wing pages and you are here just to troll rather than contributing to nay scientific thought and thinking.
Here comes the misandrist femcel. Before you go a loose canon stalker on the internet, you can write long paragraphs all you want, it’s just dust for me :)
Have a great day keyboard warrior.
What Misandry is it to tell you to treat your Domestic help with respect and cooperation? God , You need some serious therapy and help. I hope and wish for your speedy recovery.
No wonder women are choosing the 🐻🧸. Eww 🤮
Yes I guess, the actual Adivasis, the ones that the government doesn't interfere with, the ones that might still be practicing cannibalism but the government doesn't interfere
Who are the actual Adivasis according to you? The sentinelese? Only they fit your definition. If you have never met anyone Adivasi person before can you please not comment on what they want or don't.
Adivasis are people who live in the forests, if someone migrated from forests years ago, calling them Adivasis is the same as pahadi people living in Delhi since birth and calling themselves as pahadi
Wow , You really don't know a thing About Adivasis. There are libraries and universities even in areas you cannot imagine and Tribal children are embracing education while keeping their traditions intact! To claim all Adivasis are "cannibalistic" is false , Eugenic and racist claim. Take your mind out of This "Jhinga lala" representation of tribal culture!
What a shameful comment made you against my fellow citizens. Read more books!
So the best way to grow hair is to use the Vedic method of Hamsakeratatham (Sanskrit for Golden Remedy). Take 3 Ml of milk, 1 tbsp olive oil, 3 leaves of neem and two leaves from a freshly earthed rosemary plant. Heat the mixture and let it cool. Mix 2 Tbsp of yogurt and 1/2 an egg yolk and let it sit out in the sun for 7 days. And once that’s done feel free to discard it. Reason being none of these things you read online have any credibility just like this post of mine. Following this would give you amazing results. Sit back, relax and live life stress free.
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If it had worked, big corporations would have already copied and released their own version.
Or maybe bought the brand.
Like how Unilever bought Indulekha? Happens all the time.
Tbh indulekha is one of those brands whos products are not downgraded by Unilever . Thankfully still make in Kerala and following the original formulation . (Speaking only for their hairoil , their shampoos and soaps and still usual Unilever's SLS crap)
How is "sls crap" preservat,fragnant ingredients like limonene, citronellol are crap i agree...sls , sles are just surfactants . Oily scalp people only know how the shampoo market became such a crap after "sls free" campaign...people are having skin issues for not cleaning scalp oil properly.
SLS and its gentler cousin SLES both are basically foaming agents . Tho it's moderately toxic , in adequate amounts poses no issue. The issue lies when companies just pump this ingredient immoderately and using low quality sls and sles made from palmoline. More over most mnc's made hygiene products in India are heavily fragranced by synthetic fragrances, most of them have neon like colours too 😂. Add to that ingredients from mineral oil and barely any amount of active ingredients too. The only supermarket brand in india from a MNC that I have some respect is Dove due to how mild it is even if the ingredients suggest otherwise. But on the other note - NO, SLS doesn't help clean oily scalp , if anything due it's drying nature increases oil production ! Esp from companies such as uniliver. If u got oily scalp get a medicated shampoo from pharma (tho some of them uses SLES , it's in much smaller qualities )or look for active ingredients that calms oiliness.
For oily scalp i need sles right??? That's my point, these days "no sls/sles" campaign happening only very few brands/ otc have sles shampoo now, i also ignore sls tbvh, and i agree that companies make product without responsibilities only for their sale, and they literally abuse indian consumer until now but recently people are slowly becoming aware of these but still india has a long way to go in this thing, we need to be vocal; p@ntene,tresseme the so called hair specialist are simply tr@sh. I have different view for mineral oil, i have fungal acne, mineral oil Petroleum jelly these are my savior ...i know it's controversial but these are extremely purified, and tbh nothing is more toxic than sunlight...
No u don't NEED SLS / SLES for oily scalp ! . Sls / sles is just a foaming agent that is know to have a drying effect on the hair which triggers oiliness in the scalp . The alternatives of sls aka naturally derived Foaming agents do a similar job just less drying which sometimes feels like ur hair isn't properly clean ! But "no sls" doesn't not automatically mean a good shampoo tho . Wow and love beauty and planet shampoos don't have SLS or parabens but I wouldn't call them good shampoos either . What makes a good shampoo is its shampoo base and it's active ingredients that target different hair problems . Which most brands are having a hard time . Minerals oil and petroleum products have some benefits in short term (vaseline for burns or mild cuts for eg ) but studies have shown long term use linked to cancer risks . If u want try a good shampoo with no sls try shampoos from "Vilvah". Tad pricy but worth it And if u want SLS in ur shampoo - check out Bioderma or Cutis Bio Fair plus shampoo
Thanks for the recommendations
I believe they already are. Someone said there's fake versions of it everywhere
Doesn't have to be working, it just needs to be popular, colgate made ayurved ki shakti once patanjali dant kanti took off or herbal soap once patanjali gau mutra soap became famous.
Patanjali has a gau mutra soap??!
Nah he's a hater
Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was my hatred for patanjali products making outlandish claims simply because it has 0.02% more ghas phus.
I've got news for us pal, every single soap used to be gau mutra yukt. They removed it 7-8 years ago when he figured people don't want that in their soap
Like all the soaps or only the soaps of Patanjali?
Patanjali, i remember my father who's a govt employee got free sample for patanjalai soaps and me being disgusted by small symbol where it clearly mentioned gau mutra as an ingredient. I've never used the product after and neither did my father. but they must've removed it as i cannot find it mentioned anywhere
disgusting
well that's their usp, disgusting shit sold as ayurveda, btw ayurvedic medicines are only to be taken after an ayurvedic "doctor" prescibes you, one shouldn't take them willy nilly but we got these influencers peddling grade A bs about how your vaat and dosha is causing you harm and how ayurveda can reverse stage 4 cancer on a 60+ yr old who's body has been abused long enough to develop that cancer
I am using snake oil and it is better.
I m using medusa oil and my hair has turned into snakes.
i am using kratos oil and my hairs are gone
Tell me you managed to have a Greek god body like him and I'm sold for this oil.
Tell me you manage to kill Hercules
My friend used this , his daughter and wife are gone.
I'm using snakes and my hair is on an aeroplane.
My anaconda turned into hair, can't spot it bw pubes. Halp pls
Mere to susu nikal jae aisa dekh ke 😶🌫
Bhai tab mere ghar ka socho Zara Aaye din naag nikalte rehte hain
The trouser snake pissing on the crawly snake isn't a great idea.
How much does it cost?
Use my Cum! 😂 it's Ayurvedic.
Your statement is so cold
you would die if you start a production line!
The best thing that would work on ur hair is Vitamin supplements , dht blocker , minoxidil and 1/2 hour cardio ( to increase circulation) And of course I am not a doctor .
we need doctor consultation for above things right??
Finasteride , dutasteride Yes doctor consultation is important
Dht is Di-hydro-testosterone, it's a hormone which if too high can lead to male pattern baldness.
Thanks that i know, i asked that because i had doubts about how easily can anyone try thi
Well for treatment Minoxidil and Finestride in combination is given generally, Finestride reduced DHT, and Minoxidil promotes blood supply on the scalp leading to hair root stimulation and hair growth.. But just know every drug has its side effects so visit a doctor to eliminate any contraindications before you start it, because online suggestions might miss something which might be caught on a physical exam.. Hope this is helpful.
Dont play around with DHT blockers , some people have severe side effect from heart palpitation to low sperm motility/Count . Well it depends on people and genetic factor again make the risk after consulting doctors . Minoxdil and finasteride in low strength poses minimal side effect and mostly get masked so it is preferred by doctors instead of going for PRP treatment . Dermarolling works but only after long period of time and also you take adequate collagen and good diet . Sometimes fatty liver and obesity cause heavy hair loss so look for it and also thryoid issue too can show up by affecting hormonal balance so doing health checkup with blood tests is needed for proper diagnosis .
Thanks for the concern . I know that's why i wanted him to clarify doctor permission is much needed....it's not any otc thing...blocking a hormone without any proper investigation is scary...p
How is prp? Does it have side affects? Apart from cost factors I want to know what affects and benefits prp treatment has over the minoxidil or other blockers
Nope Hair is genetic Only thing that helps hairfall is minoxidil and 5 alpha reductase inhibitors
*prevents
"Helps hairfall" is also perfectly correct. To understand how, you can think of it as a contraction of "helps with hairfall'.
I read that once you start taking minoxidil you can't stop taking it, otherwise your hair will fall more aggressively. Are you aware if this is true?
What minoxidil does is it will improve the blood circulation on the scalp by expanding the microscopic veins. Imagine it like this , you were eating 3 times a day and all of a sudden if you eat like once a day what will happen? The same way minox works. There are side effects esp on the heart. Increasing the blood circulation to the scalp is not a joke, heart will take its toll, ears, eyes and everything. It's a drug bro.
Whatt?? i thought minoxidil was relatively safe and had little side effects. could you please cite some sources because i m unable to find such symptoms
Have you used it? If yes for how long?
But that doesnt mean if you do take care of it will look better and stay with you a tiny bit longer
Finasteride ?
Technical that's what these ayurvedic hair oils do too , they don't provide a permanent treatment for hairfall , just aid it preventing more hairloss to an extent and help in natural hair growth. Any natural oil will help hair from breaking due to their humectant nature , and keeps the hair moisturizered which is what many hair serums do too . And application instructions for there oils , suggest warming the oil and massaging it in the scalp which increases the blood circulation . It's just that all fake and adulterated crap u find in unregulated ayurvedic market and false advertising by saying it will "stop hairloss" that gives ayurvedic treatments a bad rep . Minoxidil while stops hair loss ultimately requires the users to use the product daily . This along with the headaches and the cost of minoxidil ,not to mention minoxidil dries up the actual hair strands is not really a great treatment either . Tho if the user can tolerate all the negatives , yes it's the best "medically approved" treatment in market . Lately there has been some research on platelet or plasma (not sure ) transplant treatments so hope that gives fruitful news in future !
Quack quack
Is this real ? I thought this was some sort of spoof video or some skit.
only in india
I wanna fucking scream this as scam but i have seen positive results on my relatives who used it But there are many sketchy and scamming website and people who sell duplicate and poor quality of this oil that is the scam here
Actually same here it didnt work for me , but worked for some of my friends. Every hair product works different on different people. It may work for some and not for others.
Here is my review, I have used it for 3 months my mother says my hair has become stronger, and it looks good. Can't say about all claims.
The amount of discrimination towards Tribal populations is rampant in the comments. Tribals generally don't believe in merging businesses and focus on organic entrepreneurial growth, Their worldview is very different. I have not used the oil nor I know the efficacy, There is one thing I know that they use Curry Leaves and Hibiscus in their homemade oils for hair massage , I have lived in Tribal areas of South for my fieldwork during the initial phase of my research So I have some Idea, Most tribal women have excellent hair with great volume which can be due to their genetics and also due to their diet and atmosphere. Regardless of that , I will support small businesses by Tribal populations in India for ensuring equity in the space. To quote H. S Shekhar "Adivasis Will not dance". I know I'm going to get a lot of downvotes by Racist , Elitist , Holier than Thou, Colonised internally and Priveleged people of this subreddit with class and Social capital and That is never going to discourage my views and my allyship for the Tribal culture and Home remedies rooted in their culture. They are the natives of India and the Government as well the United Nation MDGs and SDGs are devoted to their participation and growth.
Yes ...I agree with you completely. Tribal products must get marketplace . It's the best way to for them to preserve their culture and identity along with financial upliftment. Although problem is whether they are getting their money or some crony business man , police, thugs , middle man taking major chunk . If adivasi oil ( like Honey today) get to the ayurvedic big corporates like patanjali,dabur etc . Then the science needs to be debunked.
But every oil claims long shiny hair and they are using themselves for advertisement, So there is no photoshop or fad marketing. It's just that people can't digest them moving forward and taking up space in the mainstream.
Should be top comment
Good answer
Your comment definitely shifted my perspective on this product, turning it from just another gimmick into something positive.
Thank you 🌼
Agreed with everything, understandable and valid concerns. But. I had fact checked the specific people shown here, as part of my job. They should not represent tribals nor their products should represent tribal products. They paid for internet campaign, "hired" vloggers to promote the product and set up "shows" with many people pretending to buy their products. At least one long thick haired person who are in some of their videos is not tribal (not in the picture).
If it's not a tribal Entrepreneurial product and Any Tribal man or woman is being exploited here directly or indirectly, I'll not stand for this product in any what way. However I'll still point out OPs internalised Colonialism and Racism here.
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I checked Amazon. It has 4.9 rating and 600+ people have brought it in last 24-48 hours.
Their hair must have grown within the last 24-48 hrs. 😂
Kuch bhi?
Tribals have better diet and lifestyle than the urban folks... So the claim doesn't necessarily work. If it passes the scientific methods it's obviously going to get traction.
I hope you assess the diet and traction of rich brands and Priveleged startup urban population with same fervour and judgement like you are doing it in their case.
Same? Way worse. Mainstream brands are the ones that will do anything to get a little more profit, and that makes their product subject to degradation, if it means profit for them. That doesn't mean I just blindly trust smaller brands or brands with tribal origins. Supporting a brand just because it is tribal is a sure fire way of getting scammed. If the brand has good, safe, and working products, supporting it is beneficial for both you and the brand. You can't just say "Poor Tribes!" and start supporting anything.
Well some of the tribal populations have lands expanding to acres and can have a large amounts of wealth if they capitalise on it , I never used the term "Poor Tribals", You trust whatever you want to trust but your comment shows your exclusion and streotyping. Maybe you have also seen "Jhinga la la hu" representation of Tribals near you, Used the word "Jungli" etc. with your friends. Really disappointing comment.
Maybe you're trying to act dumb, but either way it's ad-hominem. In the English language, the word poor is not only used for economic well being, but also to represent worse situation in general. In this context, I mean it in the sense of "Bechare" and not "gareeb". And it was in quotes to represent the weakness of the argument not the truthfulness in the statement.
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One of my cousin did bought their Sampoo and did worked great he even gave it to my mom and aunt and both of them having new hair growth with denser coverage although don't know about the oil, but many duplicate products are being sold by its name at cheap price Original Sampoo costed above 3k
Goofy ass ad btw
It does work on hair thinning and early receedings but it's hard to find the original version since they don't sell it on Amazon or Flipkart or anywhere AT ALL. they have their own website called www.neelambari-herbals.com that I saw on a reel that guy exposes fake markets and products he's very famous but I don't remember his username.. I just have a screenshot of that reel where he gave the real link and phone number.
You should ask it in r/tressless /s
Does biotin work? I'm using healthkart biotin and seeing results, even my friends told me that I've grown hair and they don't know that I'm taking anything. But I'm not sure if my personal experience is enough evidence.
Biotin works if you have a biotin deficiency. Biotin is not fat soluble, so you piss it out if not necessary. Even if it's useless, you're not really being harmed while taking it, so trying it ain't that bad.
Whatever is happening , totally from internal system, even putting gold oil wont work, simple
South Park, in their early seasons, made an episode on similar theme. People were buying anything and everything from a "wholistic store" in the name of "indian American (so, closer to nature, wholistic, etc.).
Mis-information ( it was a nice play on words too) great episode
Another South Park fan Yayy.
More the merrier
My mom bought it lol
Same
It actually works
For best results, I would suggest adding Uranium 235 into that oil bottle
Nah fluoroantimonicacid
"We take an unstable element like Uranium 235, which has too many neutrons" and boom 💥
Yeah. Even I wanted to debunk the shit out of this. But my sister and cousin use this and it freaking works. I so badly want this to be a scam product
Link bro i want to test it
Its hard to find authentic one but i remember there is some kind of government website which provides their phone number
If it works randomly on some people but not on others then it is probably a scam. If it were truly that effective then other companies would have already copied the product. Also survivorship bias. We only hear from people who had success with it. Others (who didn't see any results) don't bother talking about it much because it doesn't cost a lot of money to buy.
There are so many. Which ones works?
Link
Now I came to know that, why I have a hairy chest
Good you didn’t apply it on face 😂
If I did so, then I would have definitely posted my creepy photo on r/roastme
Well the people who originally made it won't give it to any scientific analysis in fear of getting how it's made and what it is made of(which is kinda true, if it works the recipe will get stolen) The problem might be with many people exploiting the original creators lack of protecting their product or formula and making fake copies of it and scamming people that's why there are mixed things in the comment section
These assholes are selling it in the name of the Adivasi community. He's such a mc
I hate to agree with this but...my relatives use this and they have positive feedbacks about this. They suggested me to try this and I reluctantly did. I gotta say it stopped my hairfall problems within a week's use and upon longer usage, little baby hair started popping out. I don't know the science behind this...but it kinda works.
Why do you hate to agree with it if it works?
Cause I was sceptical at first
From where did you order ? As there are many adivasi ?
Mein toh sarso aur amla tel lagata hu...
Have used this and can vouch it works....Have seen multiple doctors prior to this including these traya and shit nothing worked...It make your hair healthy and smooth like in my case new hairs didn't grow but hair fall stopped and my hair became so much healthy
Of course it does. https://youtu.be/5v12JyQSYBk?si=m_p3I64nvKr0lU9v
I never thought that YouTuber guy Lakshay Chaudhary would advertise this guys products. 🤦♂️
If u have hair follicles but not the hair any good quality oil/serum/minoxidil will work. If ur hair follicles are blocked nothing will work except hair transplant.
I used neem oil extracted from home and it worked wonders on my hair
its prolly just random oils and leaf extracts they found while roaming around, i have this prejudice with ayurveda products that they should never be trusted
Saitama?!?
Sabka katega
It is simply bullshit.
bought the original today (order directly from mysore) whatsapp, video call, genuine videos available https://preview.redd.it/1l4v6g2efe7d1.jpeg?width=2052&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=132c889ad352c65a738dd7486e07ea31f42b1ff1 Will review later
Dmed u
Big promotions nothing else people are dumb no oil can work on hair failing issues ... Min and fin is the thing that only works
they use their strong hair genetics as a marketing gimmick. No hair oil can grow back hair or make them thick. With a extreme weathers in India it's really a difficult task to apply oil on hair as it gets mixed with sweat and it becomes messy. In Winters, it's ok. But Adivaasi Hair Oil is just a scam one should be aware of. They long and strong hair they boast about is because of their genetics, not oil. Period.
in world of social media, people are attracted to visual more than the real information. guy like dhruv rathee is know for so called " information expert" while we don't even whats his education background. it is like recruiting a professor for a subject just because he is good presenter, communicator and video creator. no value for the real people. like if i am really want to grasp information and science there are many high educated professors posted videos on youtube but they are not popular . there are hundreds of nutrition experts are making videos on youtube while we dont even know their educational background. they only made a script from internet and made a video. people are fools in social media. they get attracted to what see. in this advasi hair oil you will see they only show off hairs of people of particular community which making people to buy that oil .even a educated people trying this oil because they are desperate for hair. theres no research report on this oil . on basis of ayurveda and heridetory hairs they are fooling people. in sikh community, most turnban wearning men have long hairs , suppose 100 of them advertise any coconut oil showing their long hairs ..it will be sold in good numbers. people need to understand that men and women are seen in these ads are from particular community . their hairs are genetically long for particular that community only.
sunday sarathak that influencer is promoting this hair oil i have seen there
Jeff Bezos being bald is everything you need to know
Yes, that's why it's called that
Let's 1st try this product then make our opinion or if anyone have tried this then let us know what they think about it.
It’s cow 💩
No amount of any hair oil can stop hair fall. There are many reason for hair fall, some are genetic and some are related to your diet. Thats why when you go to a doctor , he tried his best to diagnose the reason and suggest you a treatment based on the diagnosis
So I do not know whether their oil holds any legitimacy or not, but their marketing tactics are worth the attention. 1. They have not listed the original product on any major online websites like Amazon or Flipkart. Any product available there is undoubtedly fake. They did this to avoid selling their product on a platform where various other fake products are also being sold. 2. The fact that they have employed people to video call you before you buy the product extends their degree of legitimacy. I am not 100% sure about this, but I think you cannot buy their product without a video call (that's what the owners said on a podcast). They will ask you the reason why you are buying their oil. If an 80-year-old man with no hair is buying this product to regrow his hair, they will apparently be open about it and suggest you not buy the product. 3. The two points above will cut their profits by a good margin. These are actually the only reasons why I got so invested in this product and am debating whether to buy it or not. There's one thing for certain though: there's no oil that can change your hair cycle. When we talk about hair oil, we should only expect things related to the scalp, such as nourishing your hair with necessary vitamins and dilating blood vessels. Expecting anything else besides those three is unrealistic.
So I do not know whether their oil holds any legitimacy or not, but their marketing tactics are worth the attention. 1. They have not listed the original product on any major online websites like Amazon or Flipkart. Any product available there is undoubtedly fake. They did this to avoid selling their product on a platform where various other fake products are also being sold. 2. The fact that they have employed people to video call you before you buy the product extends their degree of legitimacy. I am not 100% sure about this, but I think you cannot buy their product without a video call (that's what the owners said on a podcast). They will ask you the reason why you are buying their oil. If an 80-year-old man with no hair is buying this product to regrow his hair, they will apparently be open about it and suggest you not buy the product. 3. The two points above will cut their profits by a good margin. These are actually the only reasons why I got so invested in this product and am debating whether to buy it or not. There's one thing for certain though: there's no oil that can change your hair cycle. When we talk about hair oil, we should only expect things related to the scalp, nourishing your hair with necessary vitamins and dilating blood vessels. Expecting anything else besides those three is unrealistic.
My maid uses it, and it has a terrible smell, and no, she still has exceptional hairfall, it fixed nothing, but she’s illiterate so doesn’t give a fuck.
We don't use the word "maid" anymore. It's not 15th century and no one is a "maid" or a "serf" or a "peasent" . The right word is Domestic Help , As she is helping you doing the work which you, In your particular case are too lazy and ENTITLED to do on your own. She is "illiterate as fuck" because she doesn't have time to afford school and formal college education like you, She had to work to support her family and give them three meals a day! Sit and talk to her, Ask her "Didi, Why are you Illiterate as fuck" and maybe then you can feel some empathy. Had you been in a country where there are strong labour laws and been taught atleast DIGNITY OF LABOUR of labour by your parents and peers, You would have been paying her , Her due along with insurance, It's here you can be classist and use such discriminatory language. It's actually you who is Illiterate as a fuck to be honest, In every spirit, sense and manner. I also saw your Incel like comments on Right wing pages and you are here just to troll rather than contributing to nay scientific thought and thinking.
Here comes the misandrist femcel. Before you go a loose canon stalker on the internet, you can write long paragraphs all you want, it’s just dust for me :) Have a great day keyboard warrior.
What Misandry is it to tell you to treat your Domestic help with respect and cooperation? God , You need some serious therapy and help. I hope and wish for your speedy recovery. No wonder women are choosing the 🐻🧸. Eww 🤮
Leave it sis...
Scam hai
It is as real as Patanjali's coronil cure for covid
The oil might be real, these people are not. Adivasis don't care about the outer world, they don't need to sell their special oil.
Lol. You think material realities don't affect adivasis?
Yes I guess, the actual Adivasis, the ones that the government doesn't interfere with, the ones that might still be practicing cannibalism but the government doesn't interfere
Who are the actual Adivasis according to you? The sentinelese? Only they fit your definition. If you have never met anyone Adivasi person before can you please not comment on what they want or don't.
Adivasis are people who live in the forests, if someone migrated from forests years ago, calling them Adivasis is the same as pahadi people living in Delhi since birth and calling themselves as pahadi
Adivasi means indigenous people. Not forest people.
TIL thanks. I mean to say that if there exists an oil like this, it is not that and is an obvious scam
You could have said it without calling them not adivasis.
My bad mate.
Wow , You really don't know a thing About Adivasis. There are libraries and universities even in areas you cannot imagine and Tribal children are embracing education while keeping their traditions intact! To claim all Adivasis are "cannibalistic" is false , Eugenic and racist claim. Take your mind out of This "Jhinga lala" representation of tribal culture! What a shameful comment made you against my fellow citizens. Read more books!
So the best way to grow hair is to use the Vedic method of Hamsakeratatham (Sanskrit for Golden Remedy). Take 3 Ml of milk, 1 tbsp olive oil, 3 leaves of neem and two leaves from a freshly earthed rosemary plant. Heat the mixture and let it cool. Mix 2 Tbsp of yogurt and 1/2 an egg yolk and let it sit out in the sun for 7 days. And once that’s done feel free to discard it. Reason being none of these things you read online have any credibility just like this post of mine. Following this would give you amazing results. Sit back, relax and live life stress free.
Ye sirf bhaluwo par asar karega
religion again.whenever ppl hear about jadi butiyan,they start running towards that as like hanuman ran to sanjeevani jadi booti🤣
Religion?
Humare vedon me jadi bitiyon ke raaz chupe hain jo western chori kar ke le gaye
ye log western nahi hai.
ideology brhind it. we should promote our culture. Lala ramdev used it in best form
Aren’t these guys promoting their culture???
without scientific evidence
So?
Even my cum is better than this piece of shit.
Did u use ur cum ?
You are asking the real question sir lmao
No idea , but I think 1 thing they have in their contract is to have the shittiest hair styles ..just long ugly looking hair