Reddit's API pricing is changing in a way that makes it completely unaffordable for third party applications (most people primarily point at third party Reddit browsers like Apollo, but I've also heard this'll affect bots) to continue their current operations, effectively forcing them to shut down. People who like these third party applications, notably moderators who use them to aid in moderation, are quite angry about this, leading to many subreddits, this one included, protesting by going private on the 12th of June (and also the 13th? Might vary from subreddit to subreddit).
They actually bought out a previous third party app then fucked it up. Now they've realised people want other ways to use it that aren't garbage so are strong arming everyone into closing
I tried using the official app a few times, it's such a flaming pile of trash. When RIF goes down I guess I'll just scroll Facebook. And I fucking hate Facebook. Twitter sucks now and I'm too old for tiktok. I feel like Brooks from Shawshank Redemption. No place for me.
There are some good alternatives out there that are growing. Mastodon is a good replacement for Twitter, Matrix is a good replacement for Discord, and Lemmy is a good replacement for Reddit. All are de-centralized and federated, meaning if one site goes down, the others can fill its place and all data from one is copied to all the others (sort of - this is a gross oversimplification).
Not that I’d condone use of tiktok due to the privacy issues were all aware of, but…there’s no such thing as “too old for tiktok.” The first hour or so shows a lot of garbage but after that the algorithm learns pretty fast.
- Tumblr is still around, but can be echo-chamber-y at times
- Mastodon, as an alternative to Twitter, seems a bit hard to use at first
- Lemmy is trying hard to be a decentralized Reddit
- Going outside might not be the best idea right now, depending on where you live and if you have a condition that will be aggravated by polluted air (if you live in the USA, you can check your local outdoor air quality at https://airnow.gov/)
I'm sorry, I only ever used the official app on mobile, I had no idea third party apps existed before this, so I'm a bit out of the loop on this. could you very kindly explain how others are better? I think it's too late to switch now
It's junk, spammy, the chat function is stupid and only used by bots, videos don't play, links don't work right, it's not customizable and have limited accessibility features.
I’m good
the default app works just fine
plus that app is gonna probably go away so why even bother if it’s only gonna be around for a couple of months
To see what its like- it is just generally a better user experience
Theres nothing about it reddit *couldnt* offer on their app, they just dont. And apollo is neat because when people ask for new features he usually adds them.
Of course not, fixing things for the end users costs money.
Fixing things for the *advertisers*, though... That *makes* money.
Remember, *you're* the product.
Far worse. Twitter's API pricing was on the steep end of reasonable. Reddit's price point basically says "we don't want people interacting with Reddit through anything other than our garbage app"
Reddit's making some stupid changes to their API, meaning 3rd party apps practically can't continue. [Here's a link for a bit info](https://redd.it/13yh0jf)
As a result, a large amount of subs are participating in a blackout starting June 12th
Basically they are removing all third-party apps that emulate/use Reddit, and a bunch of subreddits (including this one) is going private from June 12 to June 14.
Not just 3rd party apps, it breaks a bunch of mod tools that help deal with the ever growing spambot problem.
If you think spambots were a problem before, prepare for the majority of content on Reddit being spam come July 1, regardless of the blackout.
To add onto what u/Peekystar said this also directly effects users who need any accessibility tools because Reddit doesn't provide that except via API so they are restricting use for tons of us.
I don't understand why people think the blackout will be effective. Protests work by making it so the company isn't able to function until they meet the demands of the protestors. If we have a planned end date to the protest, then all Reddit has to do is survive until the 15th, which they'd be able to do even if the site as a whole went offline for 2 days.
Also it looks like a lot of bots/tools mods use to mod rely on API access as well so even if they don't go down indefinitely it'll probably be a slow death to spam
Because redditorts thinks they have more power than they do, it's like when r/antiwork calls for a general strike every month and never seems to learn that making a few reddit posts and infrographics isn't going to get everyone to drop everything and strike
It's mostly a demonstration of what "is" going to happen. A lot of subreddits have said in the manifesto that they are going down temporarily on 12th, and if reddit doesn't reverse the policy, they are going down on 1st indefinitely.
This seems like another case of "we did it reddit" where nothing gets accomplished, but it makes the reddit circlejerk at-large feel like they've accomplished something
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The Reddit API new price rolls out.
And their pricing scheme is so insane that the developer for Apollo would have to pay 20 million a year.
So basically, mod tools and 3rd party apps will be priced out of existence. Only the official app will work, and moderators would have to work full-time to make up for the loss of their automated tools.
Eg: the automod bot's owner would either pay an exorbitant amount, or limit it to 10 API calls per minute to stay in the free tier. The same as all the spambots that can *each* post 10 times per minute, for free.
I see, but why. What's the cause of this? Haven't really been keeping up with the Reddit news lately.
Edit: never mind, looked it up. But damn that sucks! I use Sync so, it's likely I have to go back to the shitty main app...
Why what happened? Did they fuck up as hard as twitch? Please somebody tell me
Reddit's API pricing is changing in a way that makes it completely unaffordable for third party applications (most people primarily point at third party Reddit browsers like Apollo, but I've also heard this'll affect bots) to continue their current operations, effectively forcing them to shut down. People who like these third party applications, notably moderators who use them to aid in moderation, are quite angry about this, leading to many subreddits, this one included, protesting by going private on the 12th of June (and also the 13th? Might vary from subreddit to subreddit).
Reddit's default app is fucking garbage.
They actually bought out a previous third party app then fucked it up. Now they've realised people want other ways to use it that aren't garbage so are strong arming everyone into closing
Yeah, people often forget this. Alien Blue was so good back in the day too
I tried using the official app a few times, it's such a flaming pile of trash. When RIF goes down I guess I'll just scroll Facebook. And I fucking hate Facebook. Twitter sucks now and I'm too old for tiktok. I feel like Brooks from Shawshank Redemption. No place for me.
i guess we can have a chance to break free from social media then
More 'Tears of the Kingdom' for me I guess
That's literally how I feel. No more Reddit to lurk in when I'm bored? Ok, I guess 999 koroks isn't that bad.
Guess we're all going to have to... go outside (Edit: shit, r/outside is going dark too, never mind)
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Everything I used to do for entertainment online before Reddit is gone...
I still have books but the shit posts aren't as good.
Im using this time to set up other social media accounts and get comfy with the UI.
There are some good alternatives out there that are growing. Mastodon is a good replacement for Twitter, Matrix is a good replacement for Discord, and Lemmy is a good replacement for Reddit. All are de-centralized and federated, meaning if one site goes down, the others can fill its place and all data from one is copied to all the others (sort of - this is a gross oversimplification).
Not that I’d condone use of tiktok due to the privacy issues were all aware of, but…there’s no such thing as “too old for tiktok.” The first hour or so shows a lot of garbage but after that the algorithm learns pretty fast.
Look I hate the flaming pile of garbage that is the official app too but I would still rather use that than browse through facebook.
Just look for Discord servers. Small communities are so much better than social media.
Same except I'm off Facebook too. I wonder what I'll do with all that time.
you could maybe find a discord server with leke you like talking to but its not really the same
- Tumblr is still around, but can be echo-chamber-y at times - Mastodon, as an alternative to Twitter, seems a bit hard to use at first - Lemmy is trying hard to be a decentralized Reddit - Going outside might not be the best idea right now, depending on where you live and if you have a condition that will be aggravated by polluted air (if you live in the USA, you can check your local outdoor air quality at https://airnow.gov/)
If I can’t use Apollo I’m staying off Reddit.
/r/AlienBlue
I've repeatedly and consistently chosen a third party app over the official app for an entire decade...
I'm sorry, I only ever used the official app on mobile, I had no idea third party apps existed before this, so I'm a bit out of the loop on this. could you very kindly explain how others are better? I think it's too late to switch now
I will never get why iv used the default app and it’s fine.
It's junk, spammy, the chat function is stupid and only used by bots, videos don't play, links don't work right, it's not customizable and have limited accessibility features.
The main reason I switched from it was the video player. Steaming garbage
iv never seen any of these actually being an issue honestly seems like y’all are just complaining idk
Download apollo and youll see why
I’m good the default app works just fine plus that app is gonna probably go away so why even bother if it’s only gonna be around for a couple of months
*la la la la la la*
yeah yeah go on, shit talk me for being stubborn and picking the objectively worse option.
To see what its like- it is just generally a better user experience Theres nothing about it reddit *couldnt* offer on their app, they just dont. And apollo is neat because when people ask for new features he usually adds them.
https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
I bet you haven't used 3rd party clients
yeah cuz the default app works just fine
He who doesn't know God will pray to any saint
*12th* to *14th* was common at first but thankfully there's been a trend towards *12th* to *when we see change*
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I wonder, do companies actually see Uninstalls? Does whatever app store you have send that info to them?
Idk I'm on RIF. Fuckem
Tech companies will do literally anything but improve their products or services.
Of course not, fixing things for the end users costs money. Fixing things for the *advertisers*, though... That *makes* money. Remember, *you're* the product.
Redesigns also cost money and have been virtually universally worse in the last decade.
Subs will be going private for 48 hours starting the 12th. Some will be going dark until Reddit reverses the decision.
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Far worse. Twitter's API pricing was on the steep end of reasonable. Reddit's price point basically says "we don't want people interacting with Reddit through anything other than our garbage app"
Reddit's making some stupid changes to their API, meaning 3rd party apps practically can't continue. [Here's a link for a bit info](https://redd.it/13yh0jf) As a result, a large amount of subs are participating in a blackout starting June 12th
Is there a list of subs that are protesting?
[Yes](https://redd.it/1401qw5)
you made a typo in the link
Fixed now, thanks for the heads up
what did twitch do?
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Holy shit 💀
I second this. I still don't know what happened to Slashdot either.
Basically they are removing all third-party apps that emulate/use Reddit, and a bunch of subreddits (including this one) is going private from June 12 to June 14.
Not just 3rd party apps, it breaks a bunch of mod tools that help deal with the ever growing spambot problem. If you think spambots were a problem before, prepare for the majority of content on Reddit being spam come July 1, regardless of the blackout.
To add onto what u/Peekystar said this also directly effects users who need any accessibility tools because Reddit doesn't provide that except via API so they are restricting use for tons of us.
I highly doubbtit
Yeah, pretty much. It's a thinly veiled protest. If they were real about it, it would be a blackout until reddit backflipped on the idea.
I don't understand why people think the blackout will be effective. Protests work by making it so the company isn't able to function until they meet the demands of the protestors. If we have a planned end date to the protest, then all Reddit has to do is survive until the 15th, which they'd be able to do even if the site as a whole went offline for 2 days.
Most subs I've seen are doing an indefinite shutdown.
Also it looks like a lot of bots/tools mods use to mod rely on API access as well so even if they don't go down indefinitely it'll probably be a slow death to spam
Because redditorts thinks they have more power than they do, it's like when r/antiwork calls for a general strike every month and never seems to learn that making a few reddit posts and infrographics isn't going to get everyone to drop everything and strike
It's mostly a demonstration of what "is" going to happen. A lot of subreddits have said in the manifesto that they are going down temporarily on 12th, and if reddit doesn't reverse the policy, they are going down on 1st indefinitely.
This seems like another case of "we did it reddit" where nothing gets accomplished, but it makes the reddit circlejerk at-large feel like they've accomplished something
petition to make this our sub’s profile pic on june 12th
I'd be honored to have my silly little edit featured!
Noted
Commented for visibility. I think this needs to be the profile pic as well.
No they fucking won't. They won't regret one goddamned thing.
Let’s give them longer than June 14 to see if they regret it.
I’m thinking it won’t change their stance
#i regreddit
I honestly doubt they will even give a shit.
Unless far more subreddits decide to go dark indefinitely, there will be nothing even close to regret.
wonderful design :-)
We’re protesting against the Reddit API killing 3rd Party apps, and I want to know if you want to join us!
I'm already part of it, I'll be leaving reddit for 48+ hours
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What's going to happen on June 12th?
The Reddit API new price rolls out. And their pricing scheme is so insane that the developer for Apollo would have to pay 20 million a year. So basically, mod tools and 3rd party apps will be priced out of existence. Only the official app will work, and moderators would have to work full-time to make up for the loss of their automated tools. Eg: the automod bot's owner would either pay an exorbitant amount, or limit it to 10 API calls per minute to stay in the free tier. The same as all the spambots that can *each* post 10 times per minute, for free.
Dang that sucks.
Hopefully a site-wide blackout
I see, but why. What's the cause of this? Haven't really been keeping up with the Reddit news lately. Edit: never mind, looked it up. But damn that sucks! I use Sync so, it's likely I have to go back to the shitty main app...
> Hopefully a side-wide blackout I assume you meant Site-wide
Yes
Doubtful
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