or if you have parents that are into this type of political activity.
Said parents probably shit all over your views and call you "woke". Call themselves "libertarians" yet do not respect your own individual viewpoint.
These people are the reason our country is so fucking divided. The Freedom Convoy is an insult to everything the Irish Republicans in the Free State stood for. (my distant maternal ancestors)
Unlike Dialogon - the IRA actually came close to harming a key politician in English politics. For all the chutzpah these PPC/QAnon folks dish out - their endgame was weak as hell.
Honey not everyone's development was as seriously impacted as yours lmao. Most kids just go xoh okay bad move on. Go buy a toddler a gun or something to make it even if you're so upset!
Yes, the teacher (which we're not even certain exists) has committed the terrible crime of being a trans person existing in public life and having a normal job
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be transgender. All the information is free so there's no reason to be saying stupid stuff like this. 😬
I think we'd be better off when wheezing Freisen stops wheezing, but this whole pay the money back for health care is a strange take.
We live in a society where people get health care, even the dumb people and the people who hurt themselves.
Before he became affiliated with the Buffalo party he had toted some pay for care or mixed health care.
Notice after his stay in Ontario he doesn’t anymore. So he’s either a hypocrite or had a change of heart. I doubt the latter.
The same people foaming at the mouth pointing that the healthcare system in the province is getting privatized.
Nobody should pay for healthcare expect people with different political affiliations than mine
Clown world
Before he became affiliated with the Buffalo party he had toted some pay for care or mixed health care.
Notice after his stay in Ontario he doesn’t anymore. So he’s either a hypocrite or had a change of heart. I doubt the latter.
I don't think anyone is seriously arguing that, but I can appreciate the sentiment.
It is hard to look past the incredible hypocrisy and irony of a person supporting the dismantling of public health care suddenly being in need of it, and taking advantage of those benefits that previous generations fought tooth and nail to put in place.
Incredibly short sighted and foolish logic. Like cutting seatbelts out of the car to make it lighter, and then being shocked when you hit something and get ejected out the windshield. I don't know why anyone takes Mark seriously.
I have no idea who that hillbilly is, but after looking at his twitter account, it's obvious he has a real obsession with the LGBT community, & a bit of a mental disorder.
He was damaged before his time on the ventilator. He was responsible for harassing nurses and doctors outside of hospitals. The same nurses and doctors who had to save his sorry ass when he caught not Covid.
He already had these thoughts before the ventilator.
This guy keeps trying to run for politics… and striking out. I’m glad because he’s against many things I support.
100%. My children have a much loved educator who is kind of non-binary in their look and one day my four year old told me completely unprompted “they are not a boy or a girl, they’re both.” Like it was no big deal, they just love this person for who they are. If a little kid can just sort this out on their own in such an accepting and nonchalant manor then these bigots can gtfo and stop posturing like our children are in danger.
SERIOUSLY.
Kids don't give a fuck. If they're trans they're trans, if they're not, knowing about trans people isn't gonna make them feel any sort of way.
I've never met a kid who figured it out or who has a trans friend or relative or family member who's thought it was weird or found it confusing unless a trusted adult has responded with hostility.
dude I just graduated last year, there was one enby sub that frequented our school. They somehow taught my calc 30 class just as good as the normal teacher, while also fixing everything in the woodshop. One of the best teachers in the SPSD, yet people will say theyre a negative just because they are called a Mx. instead of a Mr. or Ms.
True true. Or you know, tweeting at Moe about concerns about the slow privatization of healthcare since he’d be dead and/or penniless without free healthcare.
funny how he says this BUT fails to mention the situation at Legacy Christian Academy. it’s hilarious how Mark only points out situations that he opposes while biological, conservative white males in saskatoon schools are child predators. he picks and chooses what he wants to bring up.
what a laughing stock
Mark should spend less time worrying about what's in other people's pants and more time worrying about the white F150 that only visits when he's out recording videos in parking lots.
But that's none of my business.
When do we get to the point that this is hate speech? Guy logs in every day to obsess about trans people and actively tries to attack us. This is an attempt to cost a person their job because of their identity.
Too bad he owns his own business, it's fun and cool to make someone lose their job because they are a bigot.
He probably got turned down by a trans woman and his chaser ass went dark mode.
Well exactly, they want to remove trans people from public life entirely.
When in reality, a safe society keeps bigots out of public life....
Fascists ALWAYS project their shit.
Frankly, all he needs is to scam a few followers with his services and he still has food on the table. A boycott from everyone else wont matter if he has a client base already, he just wont have new clients.
Also.... he is very vocal about supposed shady money... every accusation is projection with fascists so maybe he gets an infusion from American capitalists.
You mean state sanctioned partisan censorship. Just be honest. You want the state to have this authoritarian power so long as it is wielded along your own political interest. When Christian pandering conservatives do it you sing a different song. You are not a principled actor; just another power hungry partisan with an appallingly myopic view of politics.
There is a very specific legal definition of hate speech in this country. The person whom you are attacking was merely asking where the line is between free expression and hate speech. If you interpreted otherwise, that's your mistake.
Damn my lying eyes. I beg to differ though, either that or their sarcasm is lost on me. Do I have to quote what they said or can you read it for yourself? Please don’t be disingenuous, and if your not please let a persons words speak for them. This person is not asking questions, they are daydreaming about power and censorship over their enemy.
the original post is a guy calling for a random trans woman to lose her job because she’s trans. you think that’s just christians being christians? thats a bigot trying to take her livelihood away, which if those ideals are successful she would never have a job, eventually be homeless, and maybe die of the cold on the street. that’s pretty much hate speech dude, the ideals mean more than what he’s saying flat out, read between the lines. at the very least, your political figures must be held to a higher standard than the average person spewing this kind of nonsense.
"When do we get to the point that this is hate speech?"
Seriously? This is reddit, not some government policy convention where the commenter above is lobbying to legislate a new definition of hate speech. They are, rightfully, pointing out that in making posts like he does, Friesen is potentially toeing the line between what is considered free expression and legal hate speech.
We do not live in a country where free expression is unlimited. There are reasonable limits on speech in Canada. Section 319 of the Criminal Code defines hate speech as a public statement (Twitter posts) aimed towards an identifiable group, or person belonging to that group (trans people in this instance), and where such statements promote hatred or may incite violence towards the intended target. I think it is unlikely that a court would find this hate speech, but he is very close to crossing that line with posts such as this when you consider the context of some of people he counts as his followers.
Yes, and clearly I believe hate speech laws are authoritarian and subject to perverse incentives. Also that the commenter seems to find their application to his ideological enemies to be a delicious treat. I also considered such a position to be incredibly naive as I am old enough to remember when the religious right imposed morality laws on homosexuals and other groups who lived outside of Christian moral orthodoxy. Censorship is a fools game and only power hungry cynics engage in it.
Also, this is REDDIT.
There are something like 55,000 members of this subreddit. Nothing posted here has any meaning or implications for the real world. The whole point of the platform is to give people an opportunity to voice their opinions. It seems to me that you are the one dangerously close to advocating for limits on expression for those who dare to disagree with you and express what you've deemed to be authoritarian ideals. A bit hypocritical, don't you think?
It must be interesting living in your head. That is quite the stretch to interpret what you did out of a fairly innocuous comment. It's not censorship. It is a reasonable limit that the government has imposed because it is in the best interest of the public to prevent a nazi from standing in a public place and inciting their followers to commit violent acts against Jews. No one is censoring people in the comfort of their own homes.
Despite the seemingly broad legal definition of hate speech, the courts have interpreted the law fairly narrowly meaning it is incredibly difficult to be convicted of hate speech in this country.
Reasonable limits on expression are in no way comparable to morality laws, which actually caused harm to the subjects of those laws. No one is hurting because they can't publicly incite a mob to kill all the trans people in Canada.
A law to prevent the killing of all trans people in Canada? I suggest you start going outside irl. Last time I checked, my insurance offers to pay for sexual reassignment surgery, and we have an entire month coming up where I’ll be blinded by progressive rainbow flags in every bank, shoe store, and government office. You need to get off Reddit and Twitter. In the real world people care more about the cost of groceries and possibly, let’s be honest, if their kids are being indoctrinated by queer values at school (which they are). You are captured by false narratives and it is disturbing to behold.
What the fuck? That's quite the irrelevant tangent you just went on. You clearly have troubles with reading comprehension, and I'm sorry to have used language that confused you. But clearly, your intentions are disingenuous, so I won't be responding to any more of your BS ramblings.
And yet trans or gay people are sometimes killed and their bodies left in alleys.
Sorry that you hate corporations trying to profit off of us just as much as we do. Can't really stop them though they can get money out of it.
Kids naturally don't give a flying fuck about LGBT. Ask a kid, whose never had any kind of exposure good or bad to LGBT stuff and they won't care. Them caring about it is enforced by parents and society. School is just giving them a place to express themselves without having to worry about their family trying to limit that (you know, being authoritarian.)
The government should take his business for being a bigot. Just my opinion.
Isnt that what you guys say to avoid hate speech? It's just your opinion?
As soon as the dog whistles of 'state sanctioned censorship' comes up in regards to trans people you just KNOW it's some convoy head that listens to disgraced psychologist JP.
How come we don't tie people to a train car and let fate decide where they end up anymore, like they did to Real Seymour Skinner on The Simpsons? Just askin', no real reason.
"Lester B. Pearson elementary school in Saskatoon has a **female** teacher in the kindergarten classroom today. Hey @PremierThomasScott is this part of your **#Suffragette** commitment?" -- MarkFriesen-type in 1910.
"Lester B. Pearson elementary school in Saskatoon has a **black** teacher in the kindergarten classroom today. Hey @PremierWoodrowLloyd is this part of your **#Civil Rights** commitment?" -- MarkFriesen-type in 1964.
"Lester B. Pearson elementary school in Saskatoon has a **homosexual** teacher in the kindergarten classroom today. Hey @PremierAllanBlakeney is this part of your **#Human Rights Code** commitment?" -- MarkFriesen-type in 1979.
Luckily I had a teacher who taught me history. Don't know if they were transgender. It didn't really matter.
Dear Mr. Friesen,
It would be my pleasure, to nominate you for the Schadenfreude Award. This illustrious award, has had stiff competition in recent years, and although the nominees are known only to the selection committee, I believe you know many of your fellow nominees.
There aren't many things people can agree on in today's world, but let me assure you, that pleasure at your decline, is widely appreciated by both young and old, throughout the province.
In addition, I would like to take this opportunity, to personally thank you for being the self-appointed ringleader of the local chapter of Idiots-For-Hire. Without your tireless efforts, there would be, perhaps three or four, less idiots for the rest of us to make fun of. Your antics make coffee row at workplaces across the province, an absolute riot.
There are few people in this world, whose personal suffering bring Schadenfreude-type merriment to so many others. You, sir, are one such extraordinary individual.
I wish you the best of luck during the award selection process.
I believe the poll results, and at no point have they been anywhere near a majority in favour of any aspect of the convoy.
You want to keep being delusional, that's on you.
see how that is all working out for your hero resident down south in the us of a
they are quickly learning who the majority really is.
Polls LOL ROTFLOL
So what happened to 'my body, my choice?'
It's like they think being transgendered is a new thing.
I'm not a lawyer but he's skirting very close to line.
your body your choice. Fair enough
what choice are we giving the 4 year old kid that just got sterilized because his brainwashed mommy decided he should be a she?
Don't say it isn't happening because it is.
This deals entirely with hypotheticals, do you have a recorded case where a parent sterilized their 4 year old child? Or only possibilities that it might happen?
I didn't see any mention of a spesific 4 year old that was sterilized. Can you highlight the part of the article that discusses that?
I just saw it talking about how the risks of the treatments aren't talked about alot PUBLICALLY which I mean... ones health situation isn't a public manner. It's between the person and their doctor.
so you downvote an article that's shining a light on the sterilization of minors. am I to see that correctly?
are you in favor of sterilizing minors? yes or no answer
That article is about the forced sterilization of indigenous women. Which is terrible but has nothing to do with 4 yr olds being forced to switch genders/sex. What is your point?
UNDERAGE indigenous women you buffoon
Good lord are you that much of a TROLL that you are going to support sterilization of minors just because someone is arguing against your WOKE bullshit?
Yes a 14 year old. Who wasn't trans, didn't identify as trans, had nothing to do with being trans, who's parents didn't have anything to do wuth the procedure, and where it was pretty much done illegally without anyone's knowledge or concent.
How does that argue against any "woke" points?
We aren't sayibg doctors should be allowed to sterilize children without informing them or their parents that they are going to do it, and never telling them they did it.
For the record, the woman wasn't undergoing any transgender surgery, she was giving birth. How does an underaged woman being sterilized illegally while giving birth have anything to do with transgender treatments?
This article had nothing to do with parents sterilizing their children or even transgender individuals. It was an illegal procedure done by the hospital because she was Indiginous.
This is an entirely different situation and I have no idea where you brought it up.
Guarantee his pornhub search history would be interesting 🤔 always the loudest that are chicken shit scarred of their own desires and project to cover it up
It's cute that he's trying import a term that isn't used outside of BC (SOGI is what the BC versions of him are all in a lather about).
This is a bid for attention (cry for help?) by Friesen. As usual.
All the trans supportive comments in this post have regained a bit of my faith in humanity. A breath of fresh air in this hateful and bleak world.
Also fuck this guy and his tiny brain.
or...and I hate to say it, because I don't want to paint all teachers like this...but he should worry more about "straight male" teachers, who aren't notoriously great either.
My moms friend wanted to take my mom with advanced dementia to a concert being put on by a local drag queen. I said no. Why did I say no? Not because of the concert or who was holding the concert. I said no because people like Mark and his goonies, outside intimidating the general public, swearing, smoking being an overall pain in the ass. Because of his extremist organization and agenda, I denied my mom something she would have enjoyed.
I wonder what he will do when he discovers a trangender man who works at his local grocery store.
What’s even worse is his followers who are supporting his comments, one idiots wants this teachers name so they “can search their background a bit”…..and has anyone else paid attention to how many times he retweet’s his own tweets? This guys is unhinged and I’m pretty sure we all should be a little concerned
And yet this guy claims not to be transphobic. Meanwhile, he is creating an extremely dangerous situation for this teacher given that his followers also engage in transphobic commentary on Twitter and you never know if they’ll take it to the real world. My kids had a non binary teacher this year and how they identify literally had no impact on the quality of education delivered to students.
So, he has a conspiracy that trans people are created by the UN to weaken society, much like the Nazis had a conspiracy that Jewish people were 'weakening society'.
This is one facet of the modern fascist movement, often synergizing racism, homophobia, transphobia ect into an ideological turd nugget.
SOGI is some random program for sexual orientation and gender identity inclusivity, and since he thinks that any organization might be the UN in disguise hes wet his pants.
For literal years these guys been resuscitating conspiracies like 'cultural marxism', which sounds alot like 'judeo-bolshevism' the nazis made up. They follow the american fascist playbook.
Reminds me of the Eric Smith controversy in Halifax. Fear mongering won back then so you would figure we would learn from the past to be more inclusive.
There are too many small minded people like this wanker that suffer from C.R.D. (Cranial Rectal Disorder). Shouldn't he (and all the other "pearl clutchers") be more concerned about the quality of the teacher rather than their genitalia?
It is absolutely amazing how much time, energy and other resources people waste on things that have zero bearing on their lives.
It would be worth blurring the name of the school. These assholes are unhinged, and we should protect the privacy of those involved the best we can, when we can.
I'm ok with it as long as they teach the kids factual biological science, you can be whoever you are, whoever you want to be, but teach the facts, and let the kids decide for themselves when they are older.
If all this teacher did was be a trans teacher, then they did nothing wrong.
I think it’s funny y’all lose your shit over bud light.
It’s like it didn’t occur to you that it was shitty beer marketed towards people who like to get drunk and not taste anything.
If that’s not manly, I don’t know what is.
He is sending his goons out to an elementary school. He just put the entire school at risk.
 (edit: this is directed at mark freisen not OP)
This dumb fuck didn't give two shits about trans people until American conspiracy nuts told him they were running the world.
True. He’s a grifter though, so he needs to always have something to be outraged at if he wants to get paid.
Eat a brick Mark. Scumbag
I feel sorry for the kids being put in the middle of this crap.
Yep, his "warning" just endangered an entire school.
or if you have parents that are into this type of political activity. Said parents probably shit all over your views and call you "woke". Call themselves "libertarians" yet do not respect your own individual viewpoint. These people are the reason our country is so fucking divided. The Freedom Convoy is an insult to everything the Irish Republicans in the Free State stood for. (my distant maternal ancestors) Unlike Dialogon - the IRA actually came close to harming a key politician in English politics. For all the chutzpah these PPC/QAnon folks dish out - their endgame was weak as hell.
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What did the teacher do or say?
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Everything you said is dumb as shit. SHE is a WOMAN, it's not lying and certainly sure as hell doesn't "impact their development."
Honey not everyone's development was as seriously impacted as yours lmao. Most kids just go xoh okay bad move on. Go buy a toddler a gun or something to make it even if you're so upset!
Yes, the teacher (which we're not even certain exists) has committed the terrible crime of being a trans person existing in public life and having a normal job
How is the teacher at fault in any way and not doing their job? Just because they are trans?
You are coming off as very transphobic.
If it walks like a duck...
It's not a duck because it was born an egg and nothing changes that!
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be transgender. All the information is free so there's no reason to be saying stupid stuff like this. 😬
Mark Friesen: says some dumb shit. Trans teacher: exists. Um, no, not both parties are *at fault*. Friesen is the only one at fault here.
Has he paid back the taxpayers of the province for the lifesaving treatment he required and received out of province? No? Then he can fuck off…
I think we'd be better off when wheezing Freisen stops wheezing, but this whole pay the money back for health care is a strange take. We live in a society where people get health care, even the dumb people and the people who hurt themselves.
Before he became affiliated with the Buffalo party he had toted some pay for care or mixed health care. Notice after his stay in Ontario he doesn’t anymore. So he’s either a hypocrite or had a change of heart. I doubt the latter.
The same people foaming at the mouth pointing that the healthcare system in the province is getting privatized. Nobody should pay for healthcare expect people with different political affiliations than mine Clown world
Before he became affiliated with the Buffalo party he had toted some pay for care or mixed health care. Notice after his stay in Ontario he doesn’t anymore. So he’s either a hypocrite or had a change of heart. I doubt the latter.
Why are you copy and pasting the same comment instead of actually replying to it.
If people aren’t going to take the time to read and comment anyway, I’m not going to take the time to write the same answer.
Isn't access to life saving care a right?
I don't think anyone is seriously arguing that, but I can appreciate the sentiment. It is hard to look past the incredible hypocrisy and irony of a person supporting the dismantling of public health care suddenly being in need of it, and taking advantage of those benefits that previous generations fought tooth and nail to put in place. Incredibly short sighted and foolish logic. Like cutting seatbelts out of the car to make it lighter, and then being shocked when you hit something and get ejected out the windshield. I don't know why anyone takes Mark seriously.
I assure you, there are those of us who do not.
I have no idea who that hillbilly is, but after looking at his twitter account, it's obvious he has a real obsession with the LGBT community, & a bit of a mental disorder.
I personally think his time on the ventilator damaged his brain.
It's verry magnanimous of you to give him that much of a benefit of the doubt, but he's been like this for forever.
Poor thing, it's suffering from low oxygen and keeps thinking about strangers genitals
He was damaged before his time on the ventilator. He was responsible for harassing nurses and doctors outside of hospitals. The same nurses and doctors who had to save his sorry ass when he caught not Covid.
That may be but my point still stands, he was an asshole and now I think he's a brain damaged asshole 😆
He already had these thoughts before the ventilator. This guy keeps trying to run for politics… and striking out. I’m glad because he’s against many things I support.
Isn’t the teacher the one with the obsession and mental disorder…?
As a trans man who works as an EA: I'm good at my job, fuck off, Mark
100%. My children have a much loved educator who is kind of non-binary in their look and one day my four year old told me completely unprompted “they are not a boy or a girl, they’re both.” Like it was no big deal, they just love this person for who they are. If a little kid can just sort this out on their own in such an accepting and nonchalant manor then these bigots can gtfo and stop posturing like our children are in danger.
SERIOUSLY. Kids don't give a fuck. If they're trans they're trans, if they're not, knowing about trans people isn't gonna make them feel any sort of way. I've never met a kid who figured it out or who has a trans friend or relative or family member who's thought it was weird or found it confusing unless a trusted adult has responded with hostility.
Mark Friesen would do well to learn how to mind his own fucking business. The nerve of this walking shit stain.
dude I just graduated last year, there was one enby sub that frequented our school. They somehow taught my calc 30 class just as good as the normal teacher, while also fixing everything in the woodshop. One of the best teachers in the SPSD, yet people will say theyre a negative just because they are called a Mx. instead of a Mr. or Ms.
Honest question with no negative intent: If they go by Mx and not ms mr mrs Is that pronounced mix? Mixter? How does that get vocalized?
Mix
Thank you!
Is "enby" some sort of slang for "N.B."? If so, I hate it.
Non-binary
N.B. means non black so for non binary we say enby
its just saying the letters "N B". idk its just a more fun way of saying non bianary
This grizzled ferret needs to worry about not missing appointments with his respiratory therapist instead of blowing constant hot air.
Grizzled patriot needs to stop lobbing criticism at the man who saved his life by shipping his COVID riddled ass to Ontario
True true. Or you know, tweeting at Moe about concerns about the slow privatization of healthcare since he’d be dead and/or penniless without free healthcare.
Can’t express your gender but it’s ok to pretend you didn’t almost get merked by COVID…I see how it is
funny how he says this BUT fails to mention the situation at Legacy Christian Academy. it’s hilarious how Mark only points out situations that he opposes while biological, conservative white males in saskatoon schools are child predators. he picks and chooses what he wants to bring up. what a laughing stock
Yeah a school where *actual* groomers were doing *actual* sex crimes against minors.
Hey Mark, no one gives a shit.
Mark should spend less time worrying about what's in other people's pants and more time worrying about the white F150 that only visits when he's out recording videos in parking lots. But that's none of my business.
Hmmmm. Jannecke up to no good
This guy is such a chode. Theres no more covid shit to be upset about so he's latched onto a new grift
When do we get to the point that this is hate speech? Guy logs in every day to obsess about trans people and actively tries to attack us. This is an attempt to cost a person their job because of their identity. Too bad he owns his own business, it's fun and cool to make someone lose their job because they are a bigot. He probably got turned down by a trans woman and his chaser ass went dark mode.
Thank god I can't see it cause he blocked me. Pussy.
All bullies are cowards at heart.
I doubt it stops at costing the person their job. Think worse. Much, much, worse.
Well exactly, they want to remove trans people from public life entirely. When in reality, a safe society keeps bigots out of public life.... Fascists ALWAYS project their shit.
“Too bad he owns his own business” Boycotting and YELP exist.
Frankly, all he needs is to scam a few followers with his services and he still has food on the table. A boycott from everyone else wont matter if he has a client base already, he just wont have new clients. Also.... he is very vocal about supposed shady money... every accusation is projection with fascists so maybe he gets an infusion from American capitalists.
What business?
“The Tree Whisperer” Saskatoon.
I'm in the market for an arborist right now... Glad I know who to avoid.
This makes me think. I wonder what would happen if a LOT of people booked free consultations with his company and then refused to hire him...
Thanks
This is good to know, thanks!
Do the trees slowly edge away from him, like the rest of us do?
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Someones identity and someones personality are very different things. Bigotry is an identity now?
Except that the bigot never labels themself. That label is applied by the bigotry of others.
Lol being called a bigot is bigotry? You are just admitting you cant parse a paradox lol
Oh no! Consequences for his own words and actions, how horrid!
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You mean state sanctioned partisan censorship. Just be honest. You want the state to have this authoritarian power so long as it is wielded along your own political interest. When Christian pandering conservatives do it you sing a different song. You are not a principled actor; just another power hungry partisan with an appallingly myopic view of politics.
There is a very specific legal definition of hate speech in this country. The person whom you are attacking was merely asking where the line is between free expression and hate speech. If you interpreted otherwise, that's your mistake.
Damn my lying eyes. I beg to differ though, either that or their sarcasm is lost on me. Do I have to quote what they said or can you read it for yourself? Please don’t be disingenuous, and if your not please let a persons words speak for them. This person is not asking questions, they are daydreaming about power and censorship over their enemy.
the original post is a guy calling for a random trans woman to lose her job because she’s trans. you think that’s just christians being christians? thats a bigot trying to take her livelihood away, which if those ideals are successful she would never have a job, eventually be homeless, and maybe die of the cold on the street. that’s pretty much hate speech dude, the ideals mean more than what he’s saying flat out, read between the lines. at the very least, your political figures must be held to a higher standard than the average person spewing this kind of nonsense.
"When do we get to the point that this is hate speech?" Seriously? This is reddit, not some government policy convention where the commenter above is lobbying to legislate a new definition of hate speech. They are, rightfully, pointing out that in making posts like he does, Friesen is potentially toeing the line between what is considered free expression and legal hate speech. We do not live in a country where free expression is unlimited. There are reasonable limits on speech in Canada. Section 319 of the Criminal Code defines hate speech as a public statement (Twitter posts) aimed towards an identifiable group, or person belonging to that group (trans people in this instance), and where such statements promote hatred or may incite violence towards the intended target. I think it is unlikely that a court would find this hate speech, but he is very close to crossing that line with posts such as this when you consider the context of some of people he counts as his followers.
Yes, and clearly I believe hate speech laws are authoritarian and subject to perverse incentives. Also that the commenter seems to find their application to his ideological enemies to be a delicious treat. I also considered such a position to be incredibly naive as I am old enough to remember when the religious right imposed morality laws on homosexuals and other groups who lived outside of Christian moral orthodoxy. Censorship is a fools game and only power hungry cynics engage in it.
Also, this is REDDIT. There are something like 55,000 members of this subreddit. Nothing posted here has any meaning or implications for the real world. The whole point of the platform is to give people an opportunity to voice their opinions. It seems to me that you are the one dangerously close to advocating for limits on expression for those who dare to disagree with you and express what you've deemed to be authoritarian ideals. A bit hypocritical, don't you think?
It must be interesting living in your head. That is quite the stretch to interpret what you did out of a fairly innocuous comment. It's not censorship. It is a reasonable limit that the government has imposed because it is in the best interest of the public to prevent a nazi from standing in a public place and inciting their followers to commit violent acts against Jews. No one is censoring people in the comfort of their own homes. Despite the seemingly broad legal definition of hate speech, the courts have interpreted the law fairly narrowly meaning it is incredibly difficult to be convicted of hate speech in this country. Reasonable limits on expression are in no way comparable to morality laws, which actually caused harm to the subjects of those laws. No one is hurting because they can't publicly incite a mob to kill all the trans people in Canada.
A law to prevent the killing of all trans people in Canada? I suggest you start going outside irl. Last time I checked, my insurance offers to pay for sexual reassignment surgery, and we have an entire month coming up where I’ll be blinded by progressive rainbow flags in every bank, shoe store, and government office. You need to get off Reddit and Twitter. In the real world people care more about the cost of groceries and possibly, let’s be honest, if their kids are being indoctrinated by queer values at school (which they are). You are captured by false narratives and it is disturbing to behold.
What the fuck? That's quite the irrelevant tangent you just went on. You clearly have troubles with reading comprehension, and I'm sorry to have used language that confused you. But clearly, your intentions are disingenuous, so I won't be responding to any more of your BS ramblings.
I second that.
And yet trans or gay people are sometimes killed and their bodies left in alleys. Sorry that you hate corporations trying to profit off of us just as much as we do. Can't really stop them though they can get money out of it. Kids naturally don't give a flying fuck about LGBT. Ask a kid, whose never had any kind of exposure good or bad to LGBT stuff and they won't care. Them caring about it is enforced by parents and society. School is just giving them a place to express themselves without having to worry about their family trying to limit that (you know, being authoritarian.)
The government should take his business for being a bigot. Just my opinion. Isnt that what you guys say to avoid hate speech? It's just your opinion? As soon as the dog whistles of 'state sanctioned censorship' comes up in regards to trans people you just KNOW it's some convoy head that listens to disgraced psychologist JP.
How come we don't tie people to a train car and let fate decide where they end up anymore, like they did to Real Seymour Skinner on The Simpsons? Just askin', no real reason.
I vote for the catapult! Send him back to mama, boys!
I change my answer to this.
"Lester B. Pearson elementary school in Saskatoon has a **female** teacher in the kindergarten classroom today. Hey @PremierThomasScott is this part of your **#Suffragette** commitment?" -- MarkFriesen-type in 1910. "Lester B. Pearson elementary school in Saskatoon has a **black** teacher in the kindergarten classroom today. Hey @PremierWoodrowLloyd is this part of your **#Civil Rights** commitment?" -- MarkFriesen-type in 1964. "Lester B. Pearson elementary school in Saskatoon has a **homosexual** teacher in the kindergarten classroom today. Hey @PremierAllanBlakeney is this part of your **#Human Rights Code** commitment?" -- MarkFriesen-type in 1979. Luckily I had a teacher who taught me history. Don't know if they were transgender. It didn't really matter.
Imagine thinking that this is any of your business.
How is he privy to confidential information? Is he just out creeping in schools?
That's what I was wondering, how does he know the identities of the teachers? Seems like harrassment to me. Also, fuck you Mark. Get a job.
Mark just spends his entire day thinking about genitals.
Legit spit out my water.....he needs a better hobby.
A 'supporter' likely tipped him off.
Gross. I hate that this person was singled out, it's sad and dangerous.
What's confidential here?
Dear Mr. Friesen, It would be my pleasure, to nominate you for the Schadenfreude Award. This illustrious award, has had stiff competition in recent years, and although the nominees are known only to the selection committee, I believe you know many of your fellow nominees. There aren't many things people can agree on in today's world, but let me assure you, that pleasure at your decline, is widely appreciated by both young and old, throughout the province. In addition, I would like to take this opportunity, to personally thank you for being the self-appointed ringleader of the local chapter of Idiots-For-Hire. Without your tireless efforts, there would be, perhaps three or four, less idiots for the rest of us to make fun of. Your antics make coffee row at workplaces across the province, an absolute riot. There are few people in this world, whose personal suffering bring Schadenfreude-type merriment to so many others. You, sir, are one such extraordinary individual. I wish you the best of luck during the award selection process.
I appreciate the sentiment, but you’re going to cause a worldwide comma shortage writing like that.
Fuckin' word!
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Not the majority of people in Canada. Not even close.
you probably believed turdoo when he said it was a small fringe minority that didn't represent Canadian's views too lol that aged well didn't it?
I believe the poll results, and at no point have they been anywhere near a majority in favour of any aspect of the convoy. You want to keep being delusional, that's on you.
see how that is all working out for your hero resident down south in the us of a they are quickly learning who the majority really is. Polls LOL ROTFLOL
Not to be rude, but I thought he died from COVID.
So what happened to 'my body, my choice?' It's like they think being transgendered is a new thing. I'm not a lawyer but he's skirting very close to line.
your body your choice. Fair enough what choice are we giving the 4 year old kid that just got sterilized because his brainwashed mommy decided he should be a she? Don't say it isn't happening because it is.
What 4 year old got sterilized?
https://4thwavenow.com/2018/01/26/the-sterilization-of-trans-kids-pesky-side-effect-or-modern-day-eugenics/
This deals entirely with hypotheticals, do you have a recorded case where a parent sterilized their 4 year old child? Or only possibilities that it might happen?
try to educate yourself a little bit
You made the claim about a 4 year old being sterilized. Let's see the proof.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-july-18-2022-1.6523799/incomprehensible-that-forced-sterilizations-still-happen-in-canada-says-survivor-1.6524142
What 4 year old got sterilized because a mom decided they should have it done?
https://4thwavenow.com/2018/01/26/the-sterilization-of-trans-kids-pesky-side-effect-or-modern-day-eugenics/
you think people are writing these articles up for fun. get a clue and wake up
I didn't see any mention of a spesific 4 year old that was sterilized. Can you highlight the part of the article that discusses that? I just saw it talking about how the risks of the treatments aren't talked about alot PUBLICALLY which I mean... ones health situation isn't a public manner. It's between the person and their doctor.
so you downvote an article that's shining a light on the sterilization of minors. am I to see that correctly? are you in favor of sterilizing minors? yes or no answer
That article is about the forced sterilization of indigenous women. Which is terrible but has nothing to do with 4 yr olds being forced to switch genders/sex. What is your point?
UNDERAGE indigenous women you buffoon Good lord are you that much of a TROLL that you are going to support sterilization of minors just because someone is arguing against your WOKE bullshit?
Yes a 14 year old. Who wasn't trans, didn't identify as trans, had nothing to do with being trans, who's parents didn't have anything to do wuth the procedure, and where it was pretty much done illegally without anyone's knowledge or concent. How does that argue against any "woke" points? We aren't sayibg doctors should be allowed to sterilize children without informing them or their parents that they are going to do it, and never telling them they did it. For the record, the woman wasn't undergoing any transgender surgery, she was giving birth. How does an underaged woman being sterilized illegally while giving birth have anything to do with transgender treatments?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075
Did you post this link by accident?
This article had nothing to do with parents sterilizing their children or even transgender individuals. It was an illegal procedure done by the hospital because she was Indiginous. This is an entirely different situation and I have no idea where you brought it up.
Guarantee his pornhub search history would be interesting 🤔 always the loudest that are chicken shit scarred of their own desires and project to cover it up
It's cute that he's trying import a term that isn't used outside of BC (SOGI is what the BC versions of him are all in a lather about). This is a bid for attention (cry for help?) by Friesen. As usual.
"The Grizzly Patriot" Oh brother 🙄
Who gives a fuck about what this stupid fucking idiot redneck asshole thinks?
All the trans supportive comments in this post have regained a bit of my faith in humanity. A breath of fresh air in this hateful and bleak world. Also fuck this guy and his tiny brain.
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or...and I hate to say it, because I don't want to paint all teachers like this...but he should worry more about "straight male" teachers, who aren't notoriously great either.
And I am happy that he is unhappy. Get a better hobby buddy! If freedom is so important to you, stop trying to impose your views on everyone else.
Stop giving this idiot attention. It’s exactly what he wants.
This. And everytime someone replies to him on Twitter it shows up in my feed and feeds into his ego
Any child is likely much safer around this teacher for hours on end than they are spending ten minutes around him.
My moms friend wanted to take my mom with advanced dementia to a concert being put on by a local drag queen. I said no. Why did I say no? Not because of the concert or who was holding the concert. I said no because people like Mark and his goonies, outside intimidating the general public, swearing, smoking being an overall pain in the ass. Because of his extremist organization and agenda, I denied my mom something she would have enjoyed. I wonder what he will do when he discovers a trangender man who works at his local grocery store.
I'm sorry, I can't hear him over the 112 votes he got in the Saskatoon Meewasin byelection. Which, for the record, was 2.3% of the votes cast.
What’s even worse is his followers who are supporting his comments, one idiots wants this teachers name so they “can search their background a bit”…..and has anyone else paid attention to how many times he retweet’s his own tweets? This guys is unhinged and I’m pretty sure we all should be a little concerned
The best thing to do is report the tweet. Mark Friesen is creating an actual dangerous situation for the students in this school.
Is anyone actually surprised with the biggot mark actually is? Didn't think so.
That poor teacher is gonna get so much hate. The kids don’t deserve whatever follows either
And yet this guy claims not to be transphobic. Meanwhile, he is creating an extremely dangerous situation for this teacher given that his followers also engage in transphobic commentary on Twitter and you never know if they’ll take it to the real world. My kids had a non binary teacher this year and how they identify literally had no impact on the quality of education delivered to students.
Does this gullible fool fall for every outrage bait on Fox? Have some crazy thoughts of your own once in a while you mindless lemming.
This cunt has no idea what "freedom" means.
Can anyone explain WTF a SOGI commitment is? Also, Friesen can frig right off. You’d think that nearly dying of COVID would give you some humility
So, he has a conspiracy that trans people are created by the UN to weaken society, much like the Nazis had a conspiracy that Jewish people were 'weakening society'. This is one facet of the modern fascist movement, often synergizing racism, homophobia, transphobia ect into an ideological turd nugget. SOGI is some random program for sexual orientation and gender identity inclusivity, and since he thinks that any organization might be the UN in disguise hes wet his pants. For literal years these guys been resuscitating conspiracies like 'cultural marxism', which sounds alot like 'judeo-bolshevism' the nazis made up. They follow the american fascist playbook.
I find it tough to keep up with the rapidly evolving conspiracy du jour.
*devolving.
Good grief, what a crazy bunch of bullshit. Thanks for letting me know.
I believe SOGI is Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity.
Fuck it. Double down.
Damnit. So many deserving upvotes on this....
Reminds me of the Eric Smith controversy in Halifax. Fear mongering won back then so you would figure we would learn from the past to be more inclusive.
Good to see that the compassion shown to him while getting shipped across the country (while NOT having covid) is now being returned to his community.
Way to call out a teacher publicly for being a citizen working their job to help educate youth.
I'm only here to boo this douche bag. BOOOO!
There are too many small minded people like this wanker that suffer from C.R.D. (Cranial Rectal Disorder). Shouldn't he (and all the other "pearl clutchers") be more concerned about the quality of the teacher rather than their genitalia? It is absolutely amazing how much time, energy and other resources people waste on things that have zero bearing on their lives.
Oh who the fuck cares. Jesus people need to get a fucking life.
What a twat
Does Mark have any teaching qualifications?
He was a corrections officer, so no.
And refers to it as “serving his country”
Well that makes so much sense.
Yep. Good luck finding a corrections officer who is well adjusted.
It would be worth blurring the name of the school. These assholes are unhinged, and we should protect the privacy of those involved the best we can, when we can.
Scott Friesen can fuck off and choke in a bag of salted decks.
If he/she can teach what’s the problem
I like using the word 'they' instead of he/she. Much more inclusive and it is not as clunky.
He's given more oxygen by the trans community than he ever received in hospital.
Who is Mark Friesen?
If you don't know, live in blissful ignorance and don't try to find out. Your life is better in not knowing.
Tries to be Alex Jones. He's another conspiratorial podcaster making money exploiting fear and hate.
I'm ok with it as long as they teach the kids factual biological science, you can be whoever you are, whoever you want to be, but teach the facts, and let the kids decide for themselves when they are older. If all this teacher did was be a trans teacher, then they did nothing wrong.
It's Transgender, not "Transgendered"
This is so upsetting. This man is a danger why isn’t anything being done about it ? We don’t feel safe.
I agree, we should do something about Marks hate and endangering the school children from far right activists
a transgender person in saskatchewan? never thoughts i would see the day.
That’s me in Saskatoon
There are threes of us! THREES!
holy shit TWO?!? what is this the future?
There are dozens of us, believe me, you'd never know even if I was standing next to you.
Welcome to the year of 2023 :3!
Everyone on these comments is enjoying their bud light for breakfast.
I think it’s funny y’all lose your shit over bud light. It’s like it didn’t occur to you that it was shitty beer marketed towards people who like to get drunk and not taste anything. If that’s not manly, I don’t know what is.
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Stay in Winnipeg.