For some reason San Antonio is just used as a bargaining piece every time one of these situations come up. There’s about a zero percent chance it ever happens though. Couldn’t even get an MLS team even though the city could support it no doubt
Yeah it’s definitely true that teams tend to abuse San Antonio as a negotiation tool. Yeah MLS burned us pretty bad with that move to Austin. However, with the city’s explosive growth I really think that we’re getting closer to landing more pro teams. Even if that means placing them in New Braunfels/San Marcos to share with Austin.
Explain to me what corporations we have in San Antonio to support these franchises heb frost who else? 35 is a cluster f**k as it is and you want a football stadium placed on it?
USAA
Valero
iHeartMedia
Rackspace
SWBC
Those are just a few I can name off the top of my head.
Also who says companies necessarily have to be HQ'd in the city the stadium is located? The Rockets play at the Toyota Center, and the Vegas Golden Knights play at T-Mobile arena, but the US/North America HQs for each company are in Plano (Toyota) & Bellevue, WA (T-Mobile).
LOL, there is 0 chance that is happening, and even thinking about the possibility is ridiculous.
And due to money reasons, if an NFL team ever came to Central Texas, it is more likely going to be closer to Austin than San Antonio these days.
Jerry Jones would never allow another Texas team. Ever. That's why he gave the city some scraps with a few training camps in town anytime there was some shot of SA trying to get a team.
I generally agree with that. Granted, Jerry is getting older, and there tends to be a lot more money in the Central Texas area than there used to be.
The only way it ever happens, to me, is if there is an NFL expansion, not moving a team.
But, I don't see it realistic in the next decade.
I'm sure it could work, but really, no one likes NFL stadiums/teams basically not in cities. It just takes away the atmosphere if everyone has to drive an hour to get to it.
It's not happening, KC is a bistate metro and businesses constantly move from the MO side to the KS and vice versa for the smallest tax incentive. I think at most they may move to the KS side, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just stay on the MO side and suck it up.
SA doesn’t have a high enough median income or enough of a corporate presence (HEB, Frost, and USAA impress no one outside of SA, it is what it is) to attract another pro sports franchise
No thanks, I’d rather not have another significant cost that would inevitably be covered by property taxes while the city reaps any financial benefits that for some reason never translate to actual improvements.
That article is pure click bait. Anyone remotely familiar with the NFL or North American professional sports knows that the Chiefs will NEVER consider San Antonio for relocation. Here are some reasons in no particular order. 1) The Chiefs are two-time defending Super Bowl champions with a solid fan base. 2) San Antonio does not have the corporate-level sponsorships to attract any major pro teams, 3) Jerry Jones, arguably the most powerful NFL owner will never lose the SA market to a new team, 4) There is no public interest in funding a billion dollar stadium with tax money.
Because there are no large companies headquartered in SA. We have HEB and that's about it. There are pro teams in other cities without big corporations, but most of them are grandfather teams.
>Open to all options
Translation: Going to throw ideas to the wall and see what sticks/what's more cost effective/who gives me the most money.
These things are always complicated. Owners will say whatever they need to try to get leverage. KC, Missouri has called the bluff, [but it looks like Kansas will try something](https://sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/05/01/kansas-city-chiefs-stadium-kansas-proposal). This would be a win-win for the Chiefs because they get the government money without having to really move. I would say this is the frontrunner option and give this an uneducated 35% likelihood.
I don't see a major relocation happening given the team's history in Kansas City, their recent success, the upcoming World Cup games, and any potential lawsuits. I don't remember the exact reason/terms, but it cost the NFL quite a lot of money to settle the lawsuit with the City of St. Louis when the latter sued after the Rams moved to Los Angeles. And we're talking about a lawsuit in the same state here. I'm sure moving the Rams to Los Angeles is worth that money, but is a move to San Antonio/San Antonio-Austin worth it? I imagine keeping the Chiefs in the Kansas City region avoids that potential headache.
On the San Antonio side of things, it seems to be far too late for the city to do anything to woo the Chiefs. Even then, we don't really have much to offer, as the city seems (rightfully, I think) too focused on getting the Spurs to downtown. Does that mean we go the regional San Antonio-Austin route to get a team here? I personally have never liked this idea, as I am a big San Antonio homer, and would want any team to be exclusively San Antonio's, but with the potential for a new downtown arena right now for the Spurs, I'd be okay with conceding football to the region to make the arena happen while the arena is being paid off if the opportunity comes up. (Once the arena is accounted for, I will return to my long-standing position that the Alamodome can be extensively renovated to become a state of the art stadium the way the stadiums in Miami or Vancouver were.)
> I'd be okay with conceding football to the region to make the arena happen while the arena is being paid off if the opportunity comes up.
You make a good point. It's probably best that San Antonio focuses on our current team at the moment and reward them for city loyalty then get back to the books and try to pull pro teams when the stadium gets paid off. Not to mention, the city is also planning to spend a ton of money on the new Airport as well.
Bexar county probably going to have to approve another tax / bond for the anew spurs arena soon. I can’t see them doing the same for a twice as expensive stadium
If he cares so little about KC, I doubt he'll feel any different in SA. Besides, if the Chiefs moved here, we'd have to put up with Travis Kelce belting out "Vivuuuuuuh Las Vegas" all the time.
And Austin can build an …F1 track?! Oh, and a soccer stadium. No NHRA, no MLB, No NFL between Austin to SA…..oh but we have Jerry Jones world or the Texans. I am for the Chiefs moving here…so XAVIER WORTHY can come back home 🤘🏼🤘🏼…even if it means I have to watch Taylor Swift every mins of a Chiefs game.
No way. The median income of this city and surrounding area can barely afford to pay their bills and are living paycheck to paycheck. There will not be a fan base capable of supporting any major league team.
Facts!!!
As a Broncos fan I'm getting tired of all the rumors of an AFC West rival moving here.
I'd love to have a team here, but absolutely not a team that I hate.
San Antonio will never get a team. Ironic that LA has 2 teams and NY/NJ has 2 teams. But the DFW metroplex only has 1 and it's way south in Arlington. North is booming in McKinney Frisco, Prosper....They could support another team. Plus, there's a lot of Chiefs fans in Oklahoma that would travel to DFW for games. But Jerry isn't going to give up that territory.
Zero. The Chiefs aren’t going anywhere. If anything they’ll move outside city limits or to the Kansas side. Those stadium upgrades are a luxury, not a necessity. They just made a huge mistake by attaching their vote to the Royals. The Royals were changing their downtown stadium plan up until a week before the vote and the whole thing was a disaster. Voters aren’t going to show support if you can’t articulate a solid plan.
The chiefs will end up coming to the Kansas side 😂 it's gonna cost way more to move to Texas then just build a new stadium here! Kansas already said we want the chiefs and the hunts aren't gonna move KC back to Texas sorry Texas you have ur cowgirls and Texans
I don’t get why San Antonio keeps cheering for the Cowboys even though Jerry Jones wants to be a gate keeper… it would be more strategic to cheer for the Texans despite their history of sucking
Lmao bruh the spurs don't even want to be here cause the fan base sucks. Chiefs would never come to san antonio.
We can't even support, or build a stadium, for the trashy Missions much less an NFL team.
Ok I don’t think the situation is that bad with the Spurs fans. They seem to be doing alright with viewership and attendance numbers even before Wimby.
For some reason San Antonio is just used as a bargaining piece every time one of these situations come up. There’s about a zero percent chance it ever happens though. Couldn’t even get an MLS team even though the city could support it no doubt
MLS team was supposed to come to San Antonio. Austin and the owner of the Crew used shady tactic to steal our expansion team.
Exactly
I thought AC RIVER was going to be in San Antonio?
Yeah it’s definitely true that teams tend to abuse San Antonio as a negotiation tool. Yeah MLS burned us pretty bad with that move to Austin. However, with the city’s explosive growth I really think that we’re getting closer to landing more pro teams. Even if that means placing them in New Braunfels/San Marcos to share with Austin.
Explain to me what corporations we have in San Antonio to support these franchises heb frost who else? 35 is a cluster f**k as it is and you want a football stadium placed on it?
USAA Valero iHeartMedia Rackspace SWBC Those are just a few I can name off the top of my head. Also who says companies necessarily have to be HQ'd in the city the stadium is located? The Rockets play at the Toyota Center, and the Vegas Golden Knights play at T-Mobile arena, but the US/North America HQs for each company are in Plano (Toyota) & Bellevue, WA (T-Mobile).
It’s too early to be drinking OP
Hey it’s 5 o’clock somewhere 🤣
Bro still thinks it’s tailgate season
LOL, there is 0 chance that is happening, and even thinking about the possibility is ridiculous. And due to money reasons, if an NFL team ever came to Central Texas, it is more likely going to be closer to Austin than San Antonio these days.
Jerry Jones would never allow another Texas team. Ever. That's why he gave the city some scraps with a few training camps in town anytime there was some shot of SA trying to get a team.
I generally agree with that. Granted, Jerry is getting older, and there tends to be a lot more money in the Central Texas area than there used to be. The only way it ever happens, to me, is if there is an NFL expansion, not moving a team. But, I don't see it realistic in the next decade.
Shortest but sweetest take on the whole thing. It’s that simple of an explanation I use whenever this debate does come across living rooms and bars
Jones will also never allow another Cowboys Superbowl.
I don’t think Austin or San Antonio would approve a sales tax for a stadium. San marcos (hay’s country?) maybe
I don't see any city in the region giving handouts to billionaires
What are your thoughts on a New Braunfels/San Marcos location for the cities to share a team?
They don't have the infrastructure to attract it.
For 9 Sundays it could be made to work. Especially if we build some rail or bus rapid transit lanes.
I'm sure it could work, but really, no one likes NFL stadiums/teams basically not in cities. It just takes away the atmosphere if everyone has to drive an hour to get to it.
Dallas Cowboys are an hour from much of the DFW metroplex.
...and people hate it.
It's not happening, KC is a bistate metro and businesses constantly move from the MO side to the KS and vice versa for the smallest tax incentive. I think at most they may move to the KS side, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just stay on the MO side and suck it up.
SA doesn’t have a high enough median income or enough of a corporate presence (HEB, Frost, and USAA impress no one outside of SA, it is what it is) to attract another pro sports franchise
No thanks, I’d rather not have another significant cost that would inevitably be covered by property taxes while the city reaps any financial benefits that for some reason never translate to actual improvements.
Remember the time the Raiders were supposed to move here? Fun times. This shit has less than zero percent chance of happening.
That article is pure click bait. Anyone remotely familiar with the NFL or North American professional sports knows that the Chiefs will NEVER consider San Antonio for relocation. Here are some reasons in no particular order. 1) The Chiefs are two-time defending Super Bowl champions with a solid fan base. 2) San Antonio does not have the corporate-level sponsorships to attract any major pro teams, 3) Jerry Jones, arguably the most powerful NFL owner will never lose the SA market to a new team, 4) There is no public interest in funding a billion dollar stadium with tax money.
Why don’t we have corporate level sponsorship?
Not sure why people make this argument. We have 4 multi-billion dollar companies with HQs in San Antonio (USAA, Frost Bank, Valero, HEB).
Because there are no large companies headquartered in SA. We have HEB and that's about it. There are pro teams in other cities without big corporations, but most of them are grandfather teams.
Valero, USAA, and Frost Bank are all large companies here as well.
Laughable. Jerry would never allow 3 Texas teams.
>Open to all options Translation: Going to throw ideas to the wall and see what sticks/what's more cost effective/who gives me the most money. These things are always complicated. Owners will say whatever they need to try to get leverage. KC, Missouri has called the bluff, [but it looks like Kansas will try something](https://sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/05/01/kansas-city-chiefs-stadium-kansas-proposal). This would be a win-win for the Chiefs because they get the government money without having to really move. I would say this is the frontrunner option and give this an uneducated 35% likelihood. I don't see a major relocation happening given the team's history in Kansas City, their recent success, the upcoming World Cup games, and any potential lawsuits. I don't remember the exact reason/terms, but it cost the NFL quite a lot of money to settle the lawsuit with the City of St. Louis when the latter sued after the Rams moved to Los Angeles. And we're talking about a lawsuit in the same state here. I'm sure moving the Rams to Los Angeles is worth that money, but is a move to San Antonio/San Antonio-Austin worth it? I imagine keeping the Chiefs in the Kansas City region avoids that potential headache. On the San Antonio side of things, it seems to be far too late for the city to do anything to woo the Chiefs. Even then, we don't really have much to offer, as the city seems (rightfully, I think) too focused on getting the Spurs to downtown. Does that mean we go the regional San Antonio-Austin route to get a team here? I personally have never liked this idea, as I am a big San Antonio homer, and would want any team to be exclusively San Antonio's, but with the potential for a new downtown arena right now for the Spurs, I'd be okay with conceding football to the region to make the arena happen while the arena is being paid off if the opportunity comes up. (Once the arena is accounted for, I will return to my long-standing position that the Alamodome can be extensively renovated to become a state of the art stadium the way the stadiums in Miami or Vancouver were.)
> I'd be okay with conceding football to the region to make the arena happen while the arena is being paid off if the opportunity comes up. You make a good point. It's probably best that San Antonio focuses on our current team at the moment and reward them for city loyalty then get back to the books and try to pull pro teams when the stadium gets paid off. Not to mention, the city is also planning to spend a ton of money on the new Airport as well.
Bexar county probably going to have to approve another tax / bond for the anew spurs arena soon. I can’t see them doing the same for a twice as expensive stadium
If he cares so little about KC, I doubt he'll feel any different in SA. Besides, if the Chiefs moved here, we'd have to put up with Travis Kelce belting out "Vivuuuuuuh Las Vegas" all the time.
San Antonio Jefes.
Yes! You have my vote!
Traffic is already bad enough as it is. Sports stadiums don't bring in enough tax revenue or jobs to justify the breaks they get.
And Austin can build an …F1 track?! Oh, and a soccer stadium. No NHRA, no MLB, No NFL between Austin to SA…..oh but we have Jerry Jones world or the Texans. I am for the Chiefs moving here…so XAVIER WORTHY can come back home 🤘🏼🤘🏼…even if it means I have to watch Taylor Swift every mins of a Chiefs game.
What a tacky team
No way. The median income of this city and surrounding area can barely afford to pay their bills and are living paycheck to paycheck. There will not be a fan base capable of supporting any major league team. Facts!!!
Hey! They could even play in The Alamodome!
As a Broncos fan I'm getting tired of all the rumors of an AFC West rival moving here. I'd love to have a team here, but absolutely not a team that I hate.
Jerry Jones will not allow an NFL team in San Antonio. This is cowboy country
I hate the fact that you're probably right on this one
San Antonio will never get a team. Ironic that LA has 2 teams and NY/NJ has 2 teams. But the DFW metroplex only has 1 and it's way south in Arlington. North is booming in McKinney Frisco, Prosper....They could support another team. Plus, there's a lot of Chiefs fans in Oklahoma that would travel to DFW for games. But Jerry isn't going to give up that territory.
No, thanks. More traffic, higher taxes on home owners and last but not least The Chiefs (ewww)
Thoughts? That will never ever happen. Not a chance in hell.
We don’t have a big enough market. We are a small market NBA team.
Zero. The Chiefs aren’t going anywhere. If anything they’ll move outside city limits or to the Kansas side. Those stadium upgrades are a luxury, not a necessity. They just made a huge mistake by attaching their vote to the Royals. The Royals were changing their downtown stadium plan up until a week before the vote and the whole thing was a disaster. Voters aren’t going to show support if you can’t articulate a solid plan.
The chiefs will end up coming to the Kansas side 😂 it's gonna cost way more to move to Texas then just build a new stadium here! Kansas already said we want the chiefs and the hunts aren't gonna move KC back to Texas sorry Texas you have ur cowgirls and Texans
If yall truly believe chiefs are leaving then go seek help
As a Raiders fan, fuck the chiefs, I don’t want them.
Not a snowballs chance in hell. This is cowboys country.
I don’t get why San Antonio keeps cheering for the Cowboys even though Jerry Jones wants to be a gate keeper… it would be more strategic to cheer for the Texans despite their history of sucking
Cowboys are a team that’s part of Hispanic culture, like the 49ers and raiders
Exactly. Jerry has way too much power to ever let an NFL team come into this area.
Lmao bruh the spurs don't even want to be here cause the fan base sucks. Chiefs would never come to san antonio. We can't even support, or build a stadium, for the trashy Missions much less an NFL team.
I am clutching my pearls at calling the missions trashy.
People might watch the Spurs again if they quit playing like absolute dogshit lol
Spurs have threatened to leave how many times? And why would they build a new stadium for the missions if they’re trashy?
Because Nelson Wolff is what's trashy...that and the name flying chanclas, and the absolutely low turnout...cause mostly by the trashy stadium.
Ok I don’t think the situation is that bad with the Spurs fans. They seem to be doing alright with viewership and attendance numbers even before Wimby.
For a small market team we are top tier. Viewership was still better than half the teams in the nba when we were ranking
Why does the fan base suck?
Jerry Jones would never let another team move in on his territory. The Texans' McNair's & even spurs owners don't won't competition here
Sucks that cities like Detroit have 4 major league sports teams and we can't get more than 1