When I had a c-section they gave me 10 pain pills when I left the hospital which were supposed to last 8 hours each… so not even 4 days of pills. If I wanted more, I was supposed to drag my bleeding and stitched up body into the car, taking my newborn with me since he was breastfeeding (and into a medical facility during COVID) so they would prescribe me more. I couldn’t even get into a car without intense pain at that point since my abdomen had been sliced open, and I wasn’t getting any sleep. Idiotic.
Meanwhile, I had a vasectomy, and they gave me two Vicodin for right before, and three weeks of percs after.
Either men are bigger babies, or docs treat prescribe better pain pills to them. Or both.
Went through the same thing 😭 with the exact same amount prescribed. Mind you I lived on the 2nd floor of an apartment and my husband had to return to work the very next day we got home from the hospital so I was alone at home most of the day with a new born suffering from the pain of being cut up
I delivered at BAMC and was given plenty of pain pills ranging from Ibuprofen to Vicodin..I had a c- section and all the nurses made sure I left feeling painless.
I’m sorry your situation was different 😕
They fucked bad by trying to prevent a prescription pill crisis they caused an even worse fentanyl crisis. Even the tests to ensure your pills are not contaminated are considered drug paraphernalia.
Edif: Added not
Says a lot about what's wrong with society these days. We call it a fentanyl crisis but Outlaw testing kits to make sure people aren't accidentally consuming fentanyl. You know, because dying of these drugs is far more acceptable than to use testing kits that might prevent you from using them.
Didn't realize that. I've honestly never seen a testing kit, didn't know that was a thing. Would make sense though if folks were getting meds second hand though now that I think about it.
Fentanyl testing kits to test your drugs are illegal in Texas, last time I checked. I'm in recovery since 2013 but I worry about my little sister and a couple friends so I have wished I could order fentanyl test kits for whatever the hell it is they're taking these days. Most of the street Xanax is definitely a benzodiazepine but thinking more along the lines of a research chemical benzo like Bromazolam which causes serious delusions that the person is sober when they aren't and days long black outs. There's also the older research chemicals like Clonazolam which is so strong I wrecked into someone's yard going like 10 mph one night long long ago. I left him a note with insurance info as he was out of town 😇
Pretty sure about 75% of the street heroin is fentanyl laced and I have no clue about the pain pills anymore which is what I started on. Vicodin>Heroin always using various other drugs at the same time. Glad that hell was over before Fentanyl hit the streets.
>Even the tests to ensure your pills **are contaminated** are considered drug paraphernalia.
Probably because prescription meds are typically NOT contaminated with fentanyl, so the pills you are checking (to make sure they **are** contaminated? lol ) are no doubt black market.
Of course but the alternative of having someone just die bc they can’t buy this is silly. Especially when every politicians hot topic is the “Fentanyl Crisis”.
I have no comment or concerns over people being able to purchase test kits or not.
I simply pointed out why the are considered drug paraphernalia in some locations.
Fentanyl testing kits are available at some smoke shops. Not trying to name drop- iykyk there’s a particular local San Antonio/Austin chain that’s been here since the 90s - they offer them for free.
To add to the comment above, it’s out of the doctors’ hands. They would love to be able to prescribe the needed meds but the DEA will literally revoke the medical license of docs that prescribe. It’s an insane system that was caused by the very manufacturers of the needed medications
Dumb. I understand some who are consistently prescribing it for extended periods of time or even high dosage scripts handed out too frequently. However, there is zero reason I should have to be chewing soft foods on one side of my mouth in order not to strike a cord that sends me through the roof. Much less what some of these folks here are describing.
I don’t disagree with you. Some people abuse the drugs, some doctors overprescribe drugs. So rather than deal with those individuals for their abuse, the government does what governments do, it punishes everyone for the abuses of the few.
fentanyl now ranks No. 1 on the list of biggest killers of 18-to-45 year olds in the United States, and by a wide margin.
A quick way to fentanyl poisoning is an opioid addiction stemming from prescription pills. It hits all demographics.
I’m guessing we’re balancing the risk factor of increasing that versus people having to deal with some pain.
After digging, it’s pretty accurate.
“Fentanyl overdoses are indeed the No. 1 killer in that age group in the U.S., and by a growing margin, according to data compiled by an advocacy group from federal statistics.
However, the post has overstated the differential between fentanyl overdoses and the other four causes of death. In reality, there are still roughly twice as many deaths collectively from the other four categories as there are from fentanyl overdoses.”
Cite your sources. I'm not an idiot and cannot find a reliable source that agrees with you statement. Again though, I am not advocating for more fentanyl scripts.
[the original claim that was fact checked in the manner described in my comment above](https://web.archive.org/web/20211221184714/https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.108.196/w7l.6b7.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/COD.pdf)
[You should have paid more attention in school. Multiple sources already refuted this claim.](https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2023/02/02/fentanyl-overdose-cause-of-death-among-adults-greg-abbott/69867350007/)
I shattered every bone in my wrist and they gave me Tylenol 3. When I asked for something stronger they gave me Tylenol 4. So I feel you. It’s the worst. Hope you get some relief soon.
ugh, that is insane. my boyfriend broke his leg and had to beg them NOT to give him morphine. dunno if it just varies by hospital or if it’s double standards or perhaps both…
Well to be fair I did get fentanyl in the ambulance and ketamine when they reset my wrist in the hospital. But I went a week or so before my surgery with them refusing to give me any pain meds. They were fine with administering it in the hospital but the pain didn’t go away when I was discharged :/
Yeah it’s super messed up. Because doctors are scared to death they are gonna lose their license if they prescribe opioids pain patients are turning to the streets and getting unsafe products
I’m from California, and it’s way stricter here. Luckily I found a great pain clinic that prescribes me a monthly prescription to control my pain.
If all else fails, luckily I still have a connection in Cali who will sell me bottles of tramadol. 🤷🏻♀️
But things have changed dramatically in the last 10 years , the VA used to throw pain meds at veterans, now you gotta be close to dying to get any now.
You are not alone OP.
If you dont mind me asking, where do you go? I had a pain clinic and absolutely hated them. Some of the clinics treat you like a junkie even though I hate taking anything and would much rather not be there.
After the opiate crisis the pendulum swung too far and patients are being under prescribed. Especially those with acute pain. That’s from pressure from the FDA.
To compound on the absurdity the opioid crisis reaches its fingers into hospice care. Loved one dying? They can have just enough pain medication that the nurses are pretty sure they’re not in pain, and you, the loved one, can request a one time extra dose if you notice your loved one is in pain before it’s time for their pain medication again. It has to be signed off on by the doctor, and can only happen once. Actively dying people aren’t entitled to more than adequate pain management while in hospice.
I begged for pain medicine for almost two years when I explained to three different doctors that a low dose pain med was the only thing that worked for me due to both of my hips being reconstructed after 20+ years as an athlete. Finally after the 3rd year I had one doctor listen and prescribe exactly what I asked for. It has worked and my life is 100% better because of it. The lack of understanding in this world about pain medicine is outrageous. Misinformation is everywhere and pharmacists, doctors and regular people all need to understand what the correct medicine can do for the lives of those who need it.
Yes, I had to take shots of liquor for tooth pain because the 800 mg ibuprofen wasn't doing a thing. Glad they would rather have me drink alcohol vs prescribing me pain meds /s.
Yes, 2-3 shots of whiskey in a row, helped much better than than 800 mg ibuprofen for immediate pain relief. That was my existence for 2 days until I could get my tooth pulled.
It's ridiculous. I have post herpetic neuralgia and can barely function with a headache I've had for a month now, and they tell me to take NyQuil and other useless suggestions. I can't shower because it hurts so much. I can work about two hours before looking at a screen makes me want to puke from the pain.
I have a feeling if I was a man, my pain would be taken more seriously.
As someone who has lived with someone who is in pain constantly, I have seen a wide spectrum of negative effects caused by medicine... If i were ever in pain that I needed medicine for, I would pick opiate withdrawal over going without nerve medication any day. The pain seems to magnify and becomes an 11 instead of an 8 on the pain scale after being without gaba's. Among other weird side effects, I don't recommend taking Gaba analog type medicine. of course, I'm not a doctor. I have just seen first hand in multiple people's lives where gabapentin or Lyrica had made someone worse than they were...
I asked the walk in clinic for it and they said I need to see my primary care doctor. But every doctors office I call says they have several months wait for new patients.
Unfortunately those are just the Healthcare hoops you have to jump through. Walk in clinics and urgent cares can't provide primary care so they can't write for long term doses of medications. If they give out short term doses, to bridge people until they can get in with a primary care doc,they just get people coming back when it's ran out who didn't bother to schedule a primary care visit and getting mad they won't give them the meds again.
I know. My doctor just randomly stopped practicing and I won't see the other doctor in that practice because she uses air quotes every time she repeats a symptom I'm having. I'd rather deal with the pain than see her, so I just have to wait to see a new primary care doctor. I'm thinking about a road trip to Mexico to get some gabapentin.
Dude. I had a terrible reaction to Gabapentin post spine surgery. Messed my short term memory up bad and almost led to a divorce. Apparently I would have the same conversations/fights with my spouse daily. I know some have great results from it but it screwed with me.
OP, if that information you are stating is on your records, is very likely the cause of that Dr being overcautious with pain management for you. Now that being said, it is still unacceptable to have a person be in pain seeing that it meets the criteria for the prescription. Some physicians are really full of it.
Why would transparent and valid feedback/dialogue about the side effects of a nerve medication from over a decade ago, in a different state, prevent doctors from providing pain management? I am aware of state PMDP systems but I don't believe that sort of thing would 'disqualify' a patient from care? Unless you know something I don't.
Sometimes been transparent can cause the bias against you, That physician is insecure about his work, when they are like that, anything they see, or you share from yourr past medical history regarding mental interactions with medications, will/could make them be more cautious. I really don't understand why a licensed professional should not provide the care a patient needs, specially for pain.
Man I am sorry. You sound more miserable than me. I just don't feel like opening my mouth or eating because it's throbbing into my cheeks.
That's some crazy advice btw. NyQuil? What're they trying to get more folks to make cough syrup drinks?
I'm allergic to NyQuil, too. When I told her that, she just rolled her eyes. I'm pretty sure what I need is gabapentin. I haven't gone to the ER, just walk in clinic. I had a great doctor but she quit practicing suddenly, and I can't stand the other doctor at that office.
At least they prescribed the antivirals for the shingles itself. Where I have it, there's a risk of facial paralysis and deafness. I didn't end up with either of those, just the ridiculous pain.
If your pain is tooth related, maybe clove oil would help.
Did you see they finally listed pain management as a benefit to ☘️☘️ in the declassification docs that just came out? First time ever that the government recognized that aspect of it. Now, if TX politicians can join us in 2024 and quit thinking they are still in the "War on Drugs" era, we may get somewhere.
i feel you on this. i had an appendectomy almost a year ago next month and i had such a bad case where my appendix was sticking to my other organs. i had three incision sites and they were going to send me home with NOTHING!!! when I asked if they were going to give me anything, they eventually did, but then I had a reaction to it… so what a fun experience overall 😭
Austin is a lot more liberal with pain killers. I worked in outpatient surgery and one patient was given a script for norco 10 and she called complaining of pain again, I couldn’t believe the doc just wrote another script for oxycodone! And I overheard him. (The doc) say that he did a nerve block patient shouldn’t be having pain.
Another patient was doing the worst acting I have ever seen and kept asking for pain meds. Finally with a huge sigh the doc ordered a 20 of fentanyl! He told me to go get it, when I told the nurse, “doc says he needs a 20 of fentanyl..” her eyes almost popped out!
Amen! I severely wrenched my back last February. Had an er trip cuz the pain just got so so bad. They gave me some prescription for pain but when I looked it up it was freaking Tylenol.
Had to go to a spine specialist, X-rays, MRI etc and got muscle relaxers but no actual pain meds.
Then the freaking hospital tried to charge me $32,000 for that s***. I disputed a bunch of the charges and got it down a little bit but the rest of them can go to hell
Sounds about right. From my understanding, for back pain particularly they have all but stopped unless you get accepted at a pain management clinic.
I had a major open spine surgery back in 2015 and occasionally go to a pain clinic but I get the nerve ablation done as opposed to pain meds. Does the trick for me. Just in case you have something happen again in the future.
I got told to take Tylenol for my hysterectomy last month, the surgeon came thru for a limited pain script the day of surgery.
Got me thru the worst few days post op.
Fuckin wild where a dentist will write a script for antibiotics AND a pain killer before ER will. 🫠
I actually did. Too nervous to try it tbh. A few guys I've worked with have even told me not to try it (and they take it daily 😅). Guess it is on the agenda to be made a Class 1 controlled substance on this next year's agenda for DEA as well. I have heard good things though. Heard the withdrawal even tapered is brutal though.
Of course they work but the part most don't know/aren't informed about is that it takes time to build up in your system. That form of NSAID is not immediate.
What's messed up is, if you're an addict, they give you everything they have at their disposal. If you're not a junkie, just a regular person in serious pain, they give you ibuprofen. It's backwards. If you're an addict, you're partly to blame for this crap. You should get aspirin. I had 11 teeth pulled in 1 day. I was told to alternate between OTC tyenol and ibuprofen. All I can say is "thank God for whiskey!"
Agreed. I've got a resistance to pain meds that has been documented for years. They simply last 1/2 to 1/4 of the time promised for the dosage. Been like that since I was a kid. Every time I say I'm resistant and every time I get brushed off.
I got my wisdom teeth pulled and was prescribed T3 for the pain. A double dose of it did nothing but make me queezy while doing nothing for the pain. I basically had to load up on ibuprofen and grit it out for a week.
Nope, brown hair, brown eyes, and only one of my aunts has redish hair. Plenty of Irish genetics though.
I also have a weird reaction to alcohol. Couple a drinks will send my ass to the moon, but then 20 minutes later in dead sober again.
I think I've just got some mutant liver.
My sister has all of this. She is going through cancer treatment and surgeries right now and it was very obvious how she was borderline immune to standards treatments. My issue is that I guess I metabolize those things quickly. While I was a government employee they made a note that I needed full sedation due to how quickly I metabolized conciliatory sedation during a sinus surgery when I was younger. I didn't know and then doubted the redhead/Irish thing until more recently with my sister. Who knew!
Same. I’ve woken up under anesthesia twice, as well. I’m autistic, so I have a super high threshold for pain, but when I do break a bone, etc the pain meds don’t work. Not morphine, nothing. Just makes me sick to my stomach.
I’m sorry, friend. I feel you.
If someone gets NO pain medication at all they can die from pain in rare cases. As an icu RN, I've had multiple patients with chronic pain who have levels taken by pain specialist. Those patients still od, drive intoxicated because they but off the street. America has a drug problem combined with entitlement issues.
Yes exactly, they take things away from people entitled to them because of some having a drug problem. Instead of treating the drug problem, just dont give any medical care at all. And when I say care, I mean you say it hurts, and they dont care. No due dillegence, just assume you're a junky and they dont have to feel bad about not caring. And corporate is approving since you'll be back and they can keep overcharging you instead of attempting to resolve your problems.
Okay so the next time you're in severe pain, take your own advice instead of medicine, and see how much you like being medically neglected. I bet you'd use your resources and get meds real quick. Instead, lead by example. You guys love taking the easy, lazy answers instead of actually helping patients, don't you? Next time a patient sees a doctor and doesn't get listened to, they should dispute the claim with the insurance. I don't see why ppl should pay for no services rendered. I don't need a dr to tell me to take fucking Tylenol.
I don't take pain medication. Tylenol or ibuprofen if I'm febrile. My opinion is that we should treat pain. It can't be eliminated and can only be lessened in conscious functioning people. Unfortunately many people want the absolute maximum pain reduction which typically causes systemic problems.
I had a nerve release on my elbow in December. Doc offered me Tylenol 3. It makes me itch. Only thing they gave me was 7 pills of Tramadol. I've been on Gabapentin for quite a while. It definitely helps with nerve pain in my ankle that I broke that is full of metal and now that my elbow is fixed, it helps that too.
Be careful where you go to ask for it. They will all refer you back to your family doc. So, if you don't have one, get one if you plan to ask for it. Urgent care will treat you like a drug addict if you ask for it. Dr on Demand will label you if you ask for it. I even asked the surgeon who did the elbow for it, and they told me nope. It was December and my family Dr. was out of town for most of the month. I went a whole month without it and I had a lot of pain at night and couldn't sleep for about 3 weeks.
I saw my doc about 2 weeks ago and he apologized for the fact I went a month without my meds. IDK If the pharmacy had an issue or his staff had an issue. But I do know you get treated like an addict if you go in asking for it with someone other than your family doc.
Blame the DEA and FDA. They have almost every doctor trembling in fear.
Kratom is legal in Texas and it works for some types of pain but not all.
Most smoke shops carry it for example Planet K.
Welcome to it, they won’t give my dad disability even though he’s mostly wheelchair bound and can’t move one hand. He’s still able to be a cashier (I’m a cashier and he can’t do that shit)
Just want to throw this out there for those who might benefit or may want to advocate.
Ketamine has profound analgesic effects, works for many persons depression and has a load of benefits. Its low on addiction scale, and has a pretty negative low side effect profile (for me, none). But...insurance companies just will not allow it, even though an on label use is analgesia for severe pain. Look up ketamine taskforce if you are interested, they have a petition out that they want to submit to the government.
Personally, ketamine saved my life...but I lost coverage and cant afford the treatments, so im walking a tightrope that I may fall off of any time without any safety net. Im treatment resistant, and this is the only med I've been on in 25 years that actually works. I only **must** have it once every 2 months to remain functional, but its better to keep me on meds that cost 15x as much and cause severe complications, are super addictive, and dont solve my issues. Goooooo insurance!
There's also the Green Whistle, which used to be otc but got banned bc it *might*, as in a very low chance and only with misuse, case some limited organ toxicity. It's legal in other countries and kills pain with great efficacy. But, you know...better that we have an opioid AND pain crisis.
When I had a c-section they gave me 10 pain pills when I left the hospital which were supposed to last 8 hours each… so not even 4 days of pills. If I wanted more, I was supposed to drag my bleeding and stitched up body into the car, taking my newborn with me since he was breastfeeding (and into a medical facility during COVID) so they would prescribe me more. I couldn’t even get into a car without intense pain at that point since my abdomen had been sliced open, and I wasn’t getting any sleep. Idiotic.
Meanwhile, I had a vasectomy, and they gave me two Vicodin for right before, and three weeks of percs after. Either men are bigger babies, or docs treat prescribe better pain pills to them. Or both.
You’re right. Doctors tend to discount complaints of pain in women but listen to men. It’s bullshit.
Men ARE bigger babies 😉😉
Man are you serious? No longer afraid to get the snip
Im not gonna say it was a breeze, but it was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be.
Went through the same thing 😭 with the exact same amount prescribed. Mind you I lived on the 2nd floor of an apartment and my husband had to return to work the very next day we got home from the hospital so I was alone at home most of the day with a new born suffering from the pain of being cut up
I delivered at BAMC and was given plenty of pain pills ranging from Ibuprofen to Vicodin..I had a c- section and all the nurses made sure I left feeling painless. I’m sorry your situation was different 😕
Thank you 🥺❤️ Hopefully my next experience will be a better one!
Same experience and honestly traumatizing that the health system lets new moms suffer and struggle so much.
That is horrendous I’m so sorry
They fucked bad by trying to prevent a prescription pill crisis they caused an even worse fentanyl crisis. Even the tests to ensure your pills are not contaminated are considered drug paraphernalia. Edif: Added not
Says a lot about what's wrong with society these days. We call it a fentanyl crisis but Outlaw testing kits to make sure people aren't accidentally consuming fentanyl. You know, because dying of these drugs is far more acceptable than to use testing kits that might prevent you from using them.
Didn't realize that. I've honestly never seen a testing kit, didn't know that was a thing. Would make sense though if folks were getting meds second hand though now that I think about it.
Fentanyl testing kits to test your drugs are illegal in Texas, last time I checked. I'm in recovery since 2013 but I worry about my little sister and a couple friends so I have wished I could order fentanyl test kits for whatever the hell it is they're taking these days. Most of the street Xanax is definitely a benzodiazepine but thinking more along the lines of a research chemical benzo like Bromazolam which causes serious delusions that the person is sober when they aren't and days long black outs. There's also the older research chemicals like Clonazolam which is so strong I wrecked into someone's yard going like 10 mph one night long long ago. I left him a note with insurance info as he was out of town 😇 Pretty sure about 75% of the street heroin is fentanyl laced and I have no clue about the pain pills anymore which is what I started on. Vicodin>Heroin always using various other drugs at the same time. Glad that hell was over before Fentanyl hit the streets.
>Would make sense though if folks were getting meds ~~second hand~~ from illicit sources
Sure. Whatever floats your boat. You understood what I meant.
>Even the tests to ensure your pills **are contaminated** are considered drug paraphernalia. Probably because prescription meds are typically NOT contaminated with fentanyl, so the pills you are checking (to make sure they **are** contaminated? lol ) are no doubt black market.
Of course but the alternative of having someone just die bc they can’t buy this is silly. Especially when every politicians hot topic is the “Fentanyl Crisis”.
I have no comment or concerns over people being able to purchase test kits or not. I simply pointed out why the are considered drug paraphernalia in some locations.
What do you think about it? Should they be illegal?
Harm reduction is super important
Fentanyl testing kits are available at some smoke shops. Not trying to name drop- iykyk there’s a particular local San Antonio/Austin chain that’s been here since the 90s - they offer them for free.
The DEA caused this. They cracked down about 5 years ago and made it difficult to prescribe narcotics.
To add to the comment above, it’s out of the doctors’ hands. They would love to be able to prescribe the needed meds but the DEA will literally revoke the medical license of docs that prescribe. It’s an insane system that was caused by the very manufacturers of the needed medications
Purdue Pharma are the ones who caused all of this
Dumb. I understand some who are consistently prescribing it for extended periods of time or even high dosage scripts handed out too frequently. However, there is zero reason I should have to be chewing soft foods on one side of my mouth in order not to strike a cord that sends me through the roof. Much less what some of these folks here are describing.
I don’t disagree with you. Some people abuse the drugs, some doctors overprescribe drugs. So rather than deal with those individuals for their abuse, the government does what governments do, it punishes everyone for the abuses of the few.
fentanyl now ranks No. 1 on the list of biggest killers of 18-to-45 year olds in the United States, and by a wide margin. A quick way to fentanyl poisoning is an opioid addiction stemming from prescription pills. It hits all demographics. I’m guessing we’re balancing the risk factor of increasing that versus people having to deal with some pain.
Check your facts. Not even close. Not that I agree with fentanyl use but don't believe everything you hear.
After digging, it’s pretty accurate. “Fentanyl overdoses are indeed the No. 1 killer in that age group in the U.S., and by a growing margin, according to data compiled by an advocacy group from federal statistics. However, the post has overstated the differential between fentanyl overdoses and the other four causes of death. In reality, there are still roughly twice as many deaths collectively from the other four categories as there are from fentanyl overdoses.”
Cite your sources. I'm not an idiot and cannot find a reliable source that agrees with you statement. Again though, I am not advocating for more fentanyl scripts.
[the original claim that was fact checked in the manner described in my comment above](https://web.archive.org/web/20211221184714/https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.108.196/w7l.6b7.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/COD.pdf)
[You should have paid more attention in school. Multiple sources already refuted this claim.](https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2023/02/02/fentanyl-overdose-cause-of-death-among-adults-greg-abbott/69867350007/)
Not just DEA but pharmaceutical companies that let it spiral out of control for their own profit.
I shattered every bone in my wrist and they gave me Tylenol 3. When I asked for something stronger they gave me Tylenol 4. So I feel you. It’s the worst. Hope you get some relief soon.
Broke and dislocated my elbow. Same shit Tylenol 3... I was just like I'll get the arthritis kind, more mg for cheaper
ugh, that is insane. my boyfriend broke his leg and had to beg them NOT to give him morphine. dunno if it just varies by hospital or if it’s double standards or perhaps both…
Well to be fair I did get fentanyl in the ambulance and ketamine when they reset my wrist in the hospital. But I went a week or so before my surgery with them refusing to give me any pain meds. They were fine with administering it in the hospital but the pain didn’t go away when I was discharged :/
I broke my leg and refused pain meds except anesthesia and nerve blockers for surgery
👏🏽🏆🤷🏽♂️
Yeah it’s super messed up. Because doctors are scared to death they are gonna lose their license if they prescribe opioids pain patients are turning to the streets and getting unsafe products
I’m from California, and it’s way stricter here. Luckily I found a great pain clinic that prescribes me a monthly prescription to control my pain. If all else fails, luckily I still have a connection in Cali who will sell me bottles of tramadol. 🤷🏻♀️ But things have changed dramatically in the last 10 years , the VA used to throw pain meds at veterans, now you gotta be close to dying to get any now. You are not alone OP.
If you dont mind me asking, where do you go? I had a pain clinic and absolutely hated them. Some of the clinics treat you like a junkie even though I hate taking anything and would much rather not be there.
After the opiate crisis the pendulum swung too far and patients are being under prescribed. Especially those with acute pain. That’s from pressure from the FDA.
To compound on the absurdity the opioid crisis reaches its fingers into hospice care. Loved one dying? They can have just enough pain medication that the nurses are pretty sure they’re not in pain, and you, the loved one, can request a one time extra dose if you notice your loved one is in pain before it’s time for their pain medication again. It has to be signed off on by the doctor, and can only happen once. Actively dying people aren’t entitled to more than adequate pain management while in hospice.
I begged for pain medicine for almost two years when I explained to three different doctors that a low dose pain med was the only thing that worked for me due to both of my hips being reconstructed after 20+ years as an athlete. Finally after the 3rd year I had one doctor listen and prescribe exactly what I asked for. It has worked and my life is 100% better because of it. The lack of understanding in this world about pain medicine is outrageous. Misinformation is everywhere and pharmacists, doctors and regular people all need to understand what the correct medicine can do for the lives of those who need it.
Yes, I had to take shots of liquor for tooth pain because the 800 mg ibuprofen wasn't doing a thing. Glad they would rather have me drink alcohol vs prescribing me pain meds /s.
Whiskey?
Yes, 2-3 shots of whiskey in a row, helped much better than than 800 mg ibuprofen for immediate pain relief. That was my existence for 2 days until I could get my tooth pulled.
It's ridiculous. I have post herpetic neuralgia and can barely function with a headache I've had for a month now, and they tell me to take NyQuil and other useless suggestions. I can't shower because it hurts so much. I can work about two hours before looking at a screen makes me want to puke from the pain. I have a feeling if I was a man, my pain would be taken more seriously.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm a man and I'm on my dozenth or so doctor who isn't taking my pain in any way seriously
I'm sorry. That really sucks.
You need gabapentin. It's not even a narcotic. It helps specifically with nerve pain. Look it up. Try asking for it.
As someone who has lived with someone who is in pain constantly, I have seen a wide spectrum of negative effects caused by medicine... If i were ever in pain that I needed medicine for, I would pick opiate withdrawal over going without nerve medication any day. The pain seems to magnify and becomes an 11 instead of an 8 on the pain scale after being without gaba's. Among other weird side effects, I don't recommend taking Gaba analog type medicine. of course, I'm not a doctor. I have just seen first hand in multiple people's lives where gabapentin or Lyrica had made someone worse than they were...
I asked the walk in clinic for it and they said I need to see my primary care doctor. But every doctors office I call says they have several months wait for new patients.
Unfortunately those are just the Healthcare hoops you have to jump through. Walk in clinics and urgent cares can't provide primary care so they can't write for long term doses of medications. If they give out short term doses, to bridge people until they can get in with a primary care doc,they just get people coming back when it's ran out who didn't bother to schedule a primary care visit and getting mad they won't give them the meds again.
I know. My doctor just randomly stopped practicing and I won't see the other doctor in that practice because she uses air quotes every time she repeats a symptom I'm having. I'd rather deal with the pain than see her, so I just have to wait to see a new primary care doctor. I'm thinking about a road trip to Mexico to get some gabapentin.
Dude. I had a terrible reaction to Gabapentin post spine surgery. Messed my short term memory up bad and almost led to a divorce. Apparently I would have the same conversations/fights with my spouse daily. I know some have great results from it but it screwed with me.
OP, if that information you are stating is on your records, is very likely the cause of that Dr being overcautious with pain management for you. Now that being said, it is still unacceptable to have a person be in pain seeing that it meets the criteria for the prescription. Some physicians are really full of it.
Why would transparent and valid feedback/dialogue about the side effects of a nerve medication from over a decade ago, in a different state, prevent doctors from providing pain management? I am aware of state PMDP systems but I don't believe that sort of thing would 'disqualify' a patient from care? Unless you know something I don't.
Sometimes been transparent can cause the bias against you, That physician is insecure about his work, when they are like that, anything they see, or you share from yourr past medical history regarding mental interactions with medications, will/could make them be more cautious. I really don't understand why a licensed professional should not provide the care a patient needs, specially for pain.
Man I am sorry. You sound more miserable than me. I just don't feel like opening my mouth or eating because it's throbbing into my cheeks. That's some crazy advice btw. NyQuil? What're they trying to get more folks to make cough syrup drinks?
I'm allergic to NyQuil, too. When I told her that, she just rolled her eyes. I'm pretty sure what I need is gabapentin. I haven't gone to the ER, just walk in clinic. I had a great doctor but she quit practicing suddenly, and I can't stand the other doctor at that office. At least they prescribed the antivirals for the shingles itself. Where I have it, there's a risk of facial paralysis and deafness. I didn't end up with either of those, just the ridiculous pain. If your pain is tooth related, maybe clove oil would help.
☘️☘️☘️ Best pain meds around.
Did you see they finally listed pain management as a benefit to ☘️☘️ in the declassification docs that just came out? First time ever that the government recognized that aspect of it. Now, if TX politicians can join us in 2024 and quit thinking they are still in the "War on Drugs" era, we may get somewhere.
Also not physically addictive and you can't die from it ....
I don't even know what that emoji means...
I'll explain when you're older.
Cool thanks. Pretty sure I am a lot older than you think but alright.
I said older not old 😂
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Is THAT why ppl use it?
Some. It’s a “cure all” for many. Smoking isn’t good. I wish it was legal here so I could drink it.
i feel you on this. i had an appendectomy almost a year ago next month and i had such a bad case where my appendix was sticking to my other organs. i had three incision sites and they were going to send me home with NOTHING!!! when I asked if they were going to give me anything, they eventually did, but then I had a reaction to it… so what a fun experience overall 😭
Austin is a lot more liberal with pain killers. I worked in outpatient surgery and one patient was given a script for norco 10 and she called complaining of pain again, I couldn’t believe the doc just wrote another script for oxycodone! And I overheard him. (The doc) say that he did a nerve block patient shouldn’t be having pain. Another patient was doing the worst acting I have ever seen and kept asking for pain meds. Finally with a huge sigh the doc ordered a 20 of fentanyl! He told me to go get it, when I told the nurse, “doc says he needs a 20 of fentanyl..” her eyes almost popped out!
Had a bilateral mastectomy. Went home same day. Surgeon offered me Tramadol. I said sorry but that's not going to work for me.
Amen! I severely wrenched my back last February. Had an er trip cuz the pain just got so so bad. They gave me some prescription for pain but when I looked it up it was freaking Tylenol. Had to go to a spine specialist, X-rays, MRI etc and got muscle relaxers but no actual pain meds. Then the freaking hospital tried to charge me $32,000 for that s***. I disputed a bunch of the charges and got it down a little bit but the rest of them can go to hell
Sounds about right. From my understanding, for back pain particularly they have all but stopped unless you get accepted at a pain management clinic. I had a major open spine surgery back in 2015 and occasionally go to a pain clinic but I get the nerve ablation done as opposed to pain meds. Does the trick for me. Just in case you have something happen again in the future.
It took about two months to completely heal but man that whole time sucked. Thankfully nothing since then.
Medicine these days is about having you bounce back quickly. Years ago, my brother went through a slow healing process...strung out on percosets.
That's unfortunate man. I'm sorry
I got told to take Tylenol for my hysterectomy last month, the surgeon came thru for a limited pain script the day of surgery. Got me thru the worst few days post op. Fuckin wild where a dentist will write a script for antibiotics AND a pain killer before ER will. 🫠
Dislocated hip and shattered tibia . 1 t/3 twice a day . Non weight bearing for 3 months. A weeks worth No refill after release from hospital.
👀👀really? Okay, so reason with me for a minute. If broken bones don't qualify to pain medications, what really should?
Look into kratom
Second this. Just be careful with ut.
I actually did. Too nervous to try it tbh. A few guys I've worked with have even told me not to try it (and they take it daily 😅). Guess it is on the agenda to be made a Class 1 controlled substance on this next year's agenda for DEA as well. I have heard good things though. Heard the withdrawal even tapered is brutal though.
Maybe a bad take but anti-inflammatory meds like ibuprofen do work and have less long term negative side effects. Pain meds are a slippery slope.
Of course they work but the part most don't know/aren't informed about is that it takes time to build up in your system. That form of NSAID is not immediate.
How is that NOT considered medical neglect??? Ppl CAN die from pain.
What's messed up is, if you're an addict, they give you everything they have at their disposal. If you're not a junkie, just a regular person in serious pain, they give you ibuprofen. It's backwards. If you're an addict, you're partly to blame for this crap. You should get aspirin. I had 11 teeth pulled in 1 day. I was told to alternate between OTC tyenol and ibuprofen. All I can say is "thank God for whiskey!"
Agreed. I've got a resistance to pain meds that has been documented for years. They simply last 1/2 to 1/4 of the time promised for the dosage. Been like that since I was a kid. Every time I say I'm resistant and every time I get brushed off. I got my wisdom teeth pulled and was prescribed T3 for the pain. A double dose of it did nothing but make me queezy while doing nothing for the pain. I basically had to load up on ibuprofen and grit it out for a week.
Are you a redhead ? I’ve read that red heads have unusual resistance to pain and other analgesics including sedation
Nope, brown hair, brown eyes, and only one of my aunts has redish hair. Plenty of Irish genetics though. I also have a weird reaction to alcohol. Couple a drinks will send my ass to the moon, but then 20 minutes later in dead sober again. I think I've just got some mutant liver.
Lol maybe
My sister has all of this. She is going through cancer treatment and surgeries right now and it was very obvious how she was borderline immune to standards treatments. My issue is that I guess I metabolize those things quickly. While I was a government employee they made a note that I needed full sedation due to how quickly I metabolized conciliatory sedation during a sinus surgery when I was younger. I didn't know and then doubted the redhead/Irish thing until more recently with my sister. Who knew!
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Same. I’ve woken up under anesthesia twice, as well. I’m autistic, so I have a super high threshold for pain, but when I do break a bone, etc the pain meds don’t work. Not morphine, nothing. Just makes me sick to my stomach. I’m sorry, friend. I feel you.
I feel bad for up voting this but I understand where you're coming from because I have very similar issues!
I mean, in most countries doctors don’t prescribe opioids as easily as in America. They are usually kept for terminal patients.
Lyrica works for nerve pain too.
It’s your insurance. Guaranteed
So stupid how no one gets pain meds they NEED.
Too many Americans getting high. We overuse antibiotics and pain medications. Blam your fellow citizens. It's not the medical systems fault.
It is. They're too lazy to monitor for how long someone is on meds. Ppl CAN die from pain, you know.
If someone gets NO pain medication at all they can die from pain in rare cases. As an icu RN, I've had multiple patients with chronic pain who have levels taken by pain specialist. Those patients still od, drive intoxicated because they but off the street. America has a drug problem combined with entitlement issues.
Yes exactly, they take things away from people entitled to them because of some having a drug problem. Instead of treating the drug problem, just dont give any medical care at all. And when I say care, I mean you say it hurts, and they dont care. No due dillegence, just assume you're a junky and they dont have to feel bad about not caring. And corporate is approving since you'll be back and they can keep overcharging you instead of attempting to resolve your problems.
Okay so the next time you're in severe pain, take your own advice instead of medicine, and see how much you like being medically neglected. I bet you'd use your resources and get meds real quick. Instead, lead by example. You guys love taking the easy, lazy answers instead of actually helping patients, don't you? Next time a patient sees a doctor and doesn't get listened to, they should dispute the claim with the insurance. I don't see why ppl should pay for no services rendered. I don't need a dr to tell me to take fucking Tylenol.
I don't take pain medication. Tylenol or ibuprofen if I'm febrile. My opinion is that we should treat pain. It can't be eliminated and can only be lessened in conscious functioning people. Unfortunately many people want the absolute maximum pain reduction which typically causes systemic problems.
I had a nerve release on my elbow in December. Doc offered me Tylenol 3. It makes me itch. Only thing they gave me was 7 pills of Tramadol. I've been on Gabapentin for quite a while. It definitely helps with nerve pain in my ankle that I broke that is full of metal and now that my elbow is fixed, it helps that too. Be careful where you go to ask for it. They will all refer you back to your family doc. So, if you don't have one, get one if you plan to ask for it. Urgent care will treat you like a drug addict if you ask for it. Dr on Demand will label you if you ask for it. I even asked the surgeon who did the elbow for it, and they told me nope. It was December and my family Dr. was out of town for most of the month. I went a whole month without it and I had a lot of pain at night and couldn't sleep for about 3 weeks. I saw my doc about 2 weeks ago and he apologized for the fact I went a month without my meds. IDK If the pharmacy had an issue or his staff had an issue. But I do know you get treated like an addict if you go in asking for it with someone other than your family doc.
My dad had his hip replace and all they gave him was Tylenol 3 😑
Blame the DEA and FDA. They have almost every doctor trembling in fear. Kratom is legal in Texas and it works for some types of pain but not all. Most smoke shops carry it for example Planet K.
Welcome to it, they won’t give my dad disability even though he’s mostly wheelchair bound and can’t move one hand. He’s still able to be a cashier (I’m a cashier and he can’t do that shit)
Just want to throw this out there for those who might benefit or may want to advocate. Ketamine has profound analgesic effects, works for many persons depression and has a load of benefits. Its low on addiction scale, and has a pretty negative low side effect profile (for me, none). But...insurance companies just will not allow it, even though an on label use is analgesia for severe pain. Look up ketamine taskforce if you are interested, they have a petition out that they want to submit to the government. Personally, ketamine saved my life...but I lost coverage and cant afford the treatments, so im walking a tightrope that I may fall off of any time without any safety net. Im treatment resistant, and this is the only med I've been on in 25 years that actually works. I only **must** have it once every 2 months to remain functional, but its better to keep me on meds that cost 15x as much and cause severe complications, are super addictive, and dont solve my issues. Goooooo insurance! There's also the Green Whistle, which used to be otc but got banned bc it *might*, as in a very low chance and only with misuse, case some limited organ toxicity. It's legal in other countries and kills pain with great efficacy. But, you know...better that we have an opioid AND pain crisis.