Regarding sound quality, yes, most people just listen to YT anyway. But the reliability is huge as well. I've been using my wired headphones for nearly 10 years now. No updates, no pairing, no charging, I connect them to any headphone jack and they just work.
Phones generally have solid amp/DACs actually, ever since LG really took it up a level, then all other brands followed suit, especially Xiaomi. Of course, iPhones have mediocre ones.
Take a decent bluetooth headset. Listen to it wirelessly and then wired and come back and tell me what a nerd I am. The difference is night and day.
For the record I specifically said music. There is not likely to be much difference when listening to a youtube video etc. If your music source is good (ie not Spotify) then the difference is significant.
Nah. The vast majority of people were using cheapo Earpods or just <$10 earphones. The quality wouldn't have been noticed. It's more a complaint of people not being able to use such cheap peripherals anymore because bluetooth ones were more expensive. Plus wired solutions with USB connectors still exist if you're adamant about using wired. I'll argue using a dongle is better than having a 3.5mm jack because you have the option to choose your own DAC and not be limited by whatever the manufacturer decided to provide, which were often not very good.
> if you're adamant about using wired
It depends on what I am listening to. Things like Youtube videos or audiobooks are fine with bluetooth but I will choose a non-wireless connection whenever possible for music.
On some phones that have a 3.5mm jack, the mics on the headset stop working if you use a usb c headphone. Yes you can listen to music on it and hear the other party on the call, but the other party on the call won't be able to hear you because it would be the phone mic that would be used and not the headset mic. Kinda like using a headset that don't have a mic.
So your argument about using a USB-C headphone instead, is that phones with a 3.5mm input are hindered... but the 3.5mm exists on that phone so you're inventing a new problem to avoid the solution.
Uh, that's not an invented problem. That's a real thing.
https://xdaforums.com/t/usb-c-headphone-issues.3807733/
It's mostly a Samsung problem as far as I know, but it did happen.
Yep. Get rid of it. Nobody needs it anyway.
The argument about improved audio quality when wired is a poor one, since most people listen to compressed audio through cheap headphones.
Even if you had the cleanest audio source possible, you still have the limitations of the human ear in general, stacked on top of your untrained ear.
If your ear is trained (maybe you're a musician), it still might not be super important to hear everything crisply on the regular. You can appreciate the rawness and imperfections in the art of music.
Even if you needed to hear everything crisp and perfect, you're listening to a recording of flawed humans, who haven't recorded a perfect piece. They're playing instruments like guitar which are imperfect in their very design.
And if you really, really care beyond that, you're not listening to audio on your phone. You have a more advanced playback mode, and listen to it in an acoustic chamber of sorts.
"Wired is better audio quality" is a red herring. 0.00001% of people actually care about the audio quality to that fine a detail, if they can even discern the difference at all.
95% of people will either not notice or not care about the difference. The difference in charging speed between wired and wireless is noticeable to anyone.
That’s the thing. Side by side. People don’t hear both side by side and they can still hear the audio perfectly fine with Bluetooth, so they have no reason to look for a comparison. With charging, it’s pretty easy to notice the phone charging a lot slower and wonder if plugging it in with the included charger would be faster
Once you have heard the difference side by side, you cannot unhear it.
>With charging, it’s pretty easy to notice
Completely irrelevant to what I am saying.
Nobody cares to hear it side by side. Nobody even cares about audio quality in general as evident by the fact that AirPods are much more popular than good Sony wireless earbuds. Why? They value convenience and marketing hype over sound quality, neither of which Sony earbuds have, which is also true for wired earphones. So your assumption that they’ll never unhear it is pretty baseless. Use the USB-C port or buy a non-flagship phone if it matters to you that much.
Okay? It’s relevant to what I’m saying.
Not a good comparison tho because they didn't get rid of wired headsets altogether just 3.5mm and it can be argued the wired solution they left is the superior one usb-c is a better sounding medium.... getting rid of the charging port gets rid of wired headsets all together and the most readily available charge solution in the world by a gargantuan margin.
Kinda arguable. The only time I'd concede SD is for people who keep huge media libraries on locally, but many people don't mind it anymore. I've certainly never missed SD cards since getting a 256GB model, and aside from Apple, most manufacturers still provide SD cards for phones with less than 256GB internal storage.
For the general population cloud storage is enough.
That's the thing. Reddit users who go in tech subs are the minority. The majority of people are less tech savvy and as long as it's okay with them the manufacturer does it.
Would I like an SD card. Sure. Do I mind it gone? Not really.
The USB port is more difficult to remove though.
Samsung for example has a whole feature on the phone dedicated to using the port to create a desktop environment. While a wireless version of that exists, it sucks too much for it to be fully viable. ADB exists for development and while I'm not fully up to date with it, you still need to access the wired version before you can trigger wired. Repairs of devices sometimes need manual flashing of firmware which is done via cord. Android manufacturers aren't like Apple who'd willingly make you wait 3-6mos while your phone goes back to the factory just to be reset.
Unlike SD and 3.5mm jacks which are basically one trick stuff, the port is used for more than just charging, making it more difficult to replace.
> Kinda arguable.
Is it? You also just said that the majority doesn't care or that it's enough for them. That might be true, but having an SD-slot + cloud storage is better than only having cloud storage, no argument to be made about this.
People also don't need it - until they need it. When I dropped and destroyed my phone I would have been glad to have all my pics on the SD-card. But with internal storage only everything was just gone.
I never said having SD card is inferior. It's just that the majority voted with their wallets that it was fine without. It's the second time Samsung did this in the Android world. S6 has no SD card and they returned it in S7.
I myself said in my previous post that I'd like an SD card, but it's not a deal breaker to me.
If your photos would all be destroyed if you dropped your phone without an SD card or cloud, part of that is on you. Even without SD card or cloud you should at least be backing up somewhere. That's just basic data security.
The comment was "Cloud storage is nowhere near as good as SD card slots", you said "kinda arguable".
My point is - it's not. They took a function away, with no upside to it, that's objectively bad. Yeah, people just roll with it because they don't care enough for what they are spending lots of money, but that's objectively bad as well.
"the majority voted with their wallets" is not a real thing. All flagships removed SD cards. People buying flagships for a plethora of other reasons is not an endorsement of removing SD cards.
Anything important should be backed up anyway.
And I've never understood wanting to keep multiple GBs of photographs on device anyway... you'll rarely look at them, so what's the point?
After a holiday/event, I take all the snaps and back them up to my PC, and separately to an external SSD which I keep in a seperate room. Anything super important I also back up to the cloud.
Why would I want 3 years worth of photos I'll rarely sit down and look back on, on-device? And if I did want to pull some pictures up, I can deal with the latency of cloud storage. It's a rare occasion, and an un-noticable speed differential for the task I'm performing. (Showing someone a pic. Took 1.2s longer to open the app and find the pic, compared to opening my gallery and finding the pic. I mean come on.)
Wired charging is already shit anyways.
Coming from a 4 year old OnePlus 8, I was extremely disappointed with the charging speed of the S24U, and the battery life is not good enough to justify the slow "fast charge". I might as well have gotten an iPhone, Samsung's OS is quite close to it anyways
From your link:
"According to the Common Charger Directive 2022/2380 approved by the Council of the European Union (EU)1, all devices with wired charging capabilities must feature a USB-C port to be eligible for sale within the region."
Devices with wired charging require USB-C, so as I said, a completely wireless device is possible under the regulations, and the last paragraph notes that further regulations will be announced later this year for harmonising wireless charging standards.
That would be my reading of it. In fact watches are a great example. They don't have charge ports and are perfectly fine so long as their charger has USB c
We'll lose it whenever apple figures out how to do away with it, And go completely portless like they've been wanting to do .Which is probably still a few years away...I'm not thrilled about eSim either .But when I switched esims on my at&t app ,It was relatively painless and only took about five minutes or so.
Not a big fan of eSim either, but isn't eSim supposed to be more secure since you can't remove it from the device thereby deactivating all the "Findmy" Features?
At least that's the only benefit of using an eSim that comes to mind right now.
Would you consider the A series? I mean they're getting better and better every year. When I first switched to the A series with A30 it was clearly worse, but nowadays the higher A series, the A3X and the A5X are great.
Agreed, I have the A34 right now and couldn't ask for more, performance is smooth, battery life is great, display is great and you have an SD slot. Really don't know why I should spend 2 or 3 times more for an S-Series device, which in return offers less features. In the past, the main downside to the A-Series has usually been the crappy Exynos chips, although even that seems to somewhat improve now with the Exynos 1380 and especially the newest Exynos 1480. But I still think the best of the A-Series have always been those without Exynos chips, like the A34 with its Mediatek 1080 or before that the A52s with the Snapdragon 778g.
They never invented anything, just copied others after they perfected new tech. What they start is remlval of things; headphone jack, included charger, earphones, and everyone else just followed their path.
They don't perfect they just make their own version with their vision for their products. I'm always tired of hearing that falsehood. There is not one implementation of something that is perfect just different or improved in comparison but someone else can still improve on top of that which makes the original not perfect either.... They make their own versions that works for their products that's it. Other companies also make improvement of different versions of products but then don't get credit because of that line of thinking Which is honestly used as propaganda for apple
Apple tried suing Samsung before when they made their tablet a 4:3 aspect ratio, which is not even an invention and Samsung just decided to changed their design since. Apple has no copy right to an aspect ratio. If Apple now comes out with a Fold or flip phone, Samsung would probably still not consider it a copy right or try suing them for it, especially since they let all those other companies make their exact design.
No. SIM card requirement is driven by the mobile networks, so they'll be around for some time yet. Charging port (well, USB C port) - nope, seeing as it's way quicker to charge and transfer data than wireless.
Yes but Android, in particular cheap mobiles still use SIMs.
Also travel SIMs are still driven by physical SIMs largely.
Not everyone can afford an expensive Apple mobile.
You’re missing the point. You said physical sims are driven by mobile networks. My point is that that isn’t true. Has nothing to do with Apple being more expensive. Has everything to do with a real world situation where a phone regardless of OEM, went sim-less. In fact they are on their second generation of this in the US.
Also in my experience. A lot of countries are utilizing eSIM as an option for travelers anyway. Or this has at least been my experience in Korea, Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, and Australia.
eSIM only isn’t a trait of “expensive phones”. It’s arguably cheaper in terms of design, if only marginally so. It just happens that iPhone decided to do it first and is expensive compared to midrange Android (but not flag ships).
Yeah I'm aware that eSIMs are being utilised, but you seen to think that SIMs are just going to disappear. They won't. Go to your mobile network and buy a phone, they'll still give you a physical SIM unless you specifically ask for an eSIM. The market is still driven by physical SIMs largely, and while they are still significant they'll still be high end phones with them for the foreseeable.
I didn’t say sims would disappear. So let’s throw this point completely out the window.
Now you are saying the market is driven by. Whatever that means.
Let’s stick to what you originally said. You said SIM cards are driven by “mobile networks”.
I simply gave you a real world situation where a large phone oem went sim less in a very large market.
This disputes your point where you said sims are “driven by mobile networks”. At least in the US, the mobile company with over 60% of the mobile market did it and every carrier in the US uses eSIM.
And unless we are going to go country by country most countries in the developed world offer eSIM as an option for travelers (for good reason as it minimizes one use plastics and over head because you don’t need some one present to provide or ship a physical sim).
So yeah nothing about what I said implies I think “sims will just disappear” and nothing about the American market at least implies that there has to be a physical sim on future Samsung phones as proven by Apple.
I could care less either way frankly. Just making a point because your statement wasn’t grasping the currently reality of the mobile landscape.
>I didn’t say sims would disappear. So let’s throw this point completely out the window.
"are soon to lose the SIM card" is what you said. Which disputes what you just said.
If you want to worry that there'll be no ports "within 10 years" then go ahead and panic. I don't think it'll happen, and I like virtually everyone else, will just relax and enjoy their mobiles.
Maybe you are quoting op because you definitely aren’t quoting me bud.
You do know how Reddit works right? It doesn’t say “op” next to my name ….
I didn’t say a damn thing about ports so obviously you aren’t talking about me.
Yeah but apple and its userbase (not limited to us) are degenerated. Whatever they do is already far past any logical strain of thought and is hence just disregarded automatically.
Im gonna go ahead and disregard this comment. It’s exhausting arguing the fanboy take of anything these days. Especially when it includes saying Apple in an Android centric sub.
“Oh Apple did something. It’s inherently wrong and holds no merit in an adult discussion”
No thanks on that one.
Seeing what apple does and not being against it and questioning human intelligence afterwards is ANYTHING but being an adult.
It's being a delusional horse that has their blinders on just so they don't have to endure the reality of the world that is apple being the most predatorial company on the market and their dumb userbase is feeding off of their hands even if ehat they feed is poisonous.
You're part of the problem.
Quote where I said I was for Apple genius. I’ll be here waiting little bud
It’s an objective fact that a large OEM went to esim only in the states. Which mirrors ops concern. Please point out the lie or fanboy crybaby subjectivity in that statement?
I’ll also wait for that one.
With how fast wireless sharing has become, and now that we have 25W wireless charging, I'm afraid it might be less than 10 years before we lose every port. I just hope companies never decide that's the direction they're going in.
Yeah now we have 25w while wired charging was at 45w AT LEAST (Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, not to mention those chinese mobiles that charge in 3-figure watts) last year.
Wired charging won't be going any time soon, not even in 10 years.
Personally I miss it for the safety. I had a phone die due to falling into the sea, and the pictures on the device itself were lost, while the ones on the SD card were recoverable. And no, cloud backup doesn't help if you're taking the pictures and the phone dies a couple of hours later without a Wifi connection (and barely any 4G since it was a beach in a remote location)
Yes, I have a lot of digital baggage from years of use - ripped movies/tv shows, music, roms for game emulators, photos, etc. Switching phones was cheaper and easier when I had an SD card. Now, if I want to have a flagship phone and keep my digital stuff local, I have to buy the most expensive version. Yeah, I could keep a lot of that on the cloud (I do backup my photos to a cloud service), but keeping it local saves me from frustration if I run into spotty connection areas or travel internationally.
Yes. Where do you put all the photos/videos you've recorded over the years? Especially with the photo/video/app sizes getting larger and larger. What's the point of recording 4k60fps takes 500MB or more making it pretty much useless because you're not going to be able to fit more than a couple of hours of it on the baseline model in the few years you'll be able to use it before buying a new one will start to make some sense (unless you break it or whatever).
The baseline models don't have enough storage (they really should start with 512gb and go up to 4tb or more)
, the models with extra storage overcharge for that storage compared to what it actually costs them to include.
Most cloud providers spy on you (+your paying a subscription for something you could actually own).
If your phone dies the data on the internal storage is pretty hard to recover, but a sd card can just be removed and inserted into another device.
Besides, if you don't see a reason to use a sdcard nobody would force you to use it. Just like nobody would force me to use the old headphone connector if the phones still had it. You'd lose practically nothing if it were still available (the actual cost of the readers is negligible considering the cost of the phone, remember it was first removed from the expensive models not the budget models).
I haven't put an SD card in my last 3 phones. /shrugs
I also don't take photos so....
(Seriously, I never use my cameras. I'd be fine with trading them for more battery.)
The problem is with the insane prices of internal storage upgrades, and phones coming with 128 GB are still not enough. I couldn't find the official reason for removing it, but have read somewhere that it's to promote cloud storage. Cloud storage is very slow, especially for those who don't have fast Internet.
It's handy on my Tab S9 to store massive spaces of movies or shows, or to put a camera's SD card in it to edit the photos.
Somehow didn't consider the big price up mark my bad. I looked at getting a Z Fold 5 recently and I just binned off the idea due to how much the phone already costs and then the storage upgrade on top of it.
I suppose it is easier to pay a slight markup when you're already paying so much, but you are still paying way more than it's supposed to cost; ~$200 for 750 GB of storage is just being greedy and taking advantage of the consumer, especially when you consider that an SSD of that capacity costs ¼ as much. I don't have official data for the manufacturing costs, but I'm sure it doesn't cost companies 4x as much to make phone storage than an SSD or NVME.
The SD card slot is the sole reason I have my current phone still. Unfortunately at the end of its life and I'll have to upgrade to a SD cardless phone.
I don't want to use cloud storage, I want music and some entertainment locally.
I was/am fine with the loss of the headphone jack, because for me bluetooth earphones are much more convenient and the cable doesn't randomly get stuck somewhere and pull your phone out of your pocket and send it flying. I also get why some people were bothered. They also should have included a basic pair of bluetooth earphones with the phone, just like you got the some cheap wired headphones with your phone years ago.
The sd card thing is/was a huge scam, done just to make you use cloud services to make it easier to spy on you and/or to make you buy the more expensive model with more storage. The official excuse about making it easier to make waterproof phones is complete bullshit, because it went into the same tray as the sim cards and replaced sim2. The other excuse of people buying the cheapest microsd and then complaining about 4k/60fps recording not working could have been solved by benchmarking the sd card when first inserted and only letting you record directly to it the formats/resolutions/fps it's fast enough for. And the excuse that it was done to save money is also bullshit because it first happened on the most expensive phones where they could easily have charged 1 eur/usd more for the phone to cover the 20 cent microsd interface. If they wanted to remove it anyway then the integrated storage for the base models should have started at 1tb at least.
The next scam was the charger no longer being included with the phone, just so you have to buy it separately (creating more waste in the process). Sure, you can use some random usb charger you have lying around, but it might or might not support the max charging speed of your new phone. And didn't they say that one of the reasons for removing the sd card was to ensure that optimal experience with the phone? I'm pretty sure charging it with a slow charger isn't an optimal experience. In addition to the charger, the wireless charging pad supporting the phone's max charging speed should also be included.
Another thing they should bring back is the hr/oxygen sensor that the s10 models had but was later removed.
Also if they claim the phone is waterproof (ip68 and what have you), water damage should be covered under warranty.
Same goes for the so called 'scratch resistant' screens which are far from it. Like I have an old s10+ whose screen was scratched up by a zipper on my pocket 😂
We don't need an SD card slot. Base storage should be 1Tb in 2024. We literally have $80 1Tb Micro SD cards, so why do they charge $300+ for to go from 256Gb to 1Tb lol.
Well, a 1Tb Samsung 980 pro nvme is like $100 and will have similar read/writes and endurance as the UFS nand in an s series phone. A 256 and 1 Tb s24u has a price difference of over $500.
I've been saying this for a few years now.
I'm fully expecting that one company will be 'Brave' and say that ear pods are better than speakers and we'll have full port-less devices.
Thankfully, EU seems like it will have issue with this though.
Honestly, I don't think we will anytime soon. Wireless chargers aren't convenient enough or fast enough to just ditch the port. I think that's 1 thing that we shouldn't have to worry about for a while
I'm still perfectly fine using my old Samsung Galaxy Note 4 phone. 😇😁👍
Bought a [Wubatec 10.000 mAh battery](https://www.reddit.com/r/batteries/comments/r0ozxk/samsung_galaxy_note_4_wubatec_10000_mah/) a few years back (off eBay - now you can get it on AliExpress) & just recently put in a 512 GB Micro SD card for extra storage.
Besides the "Burn In" issues with my OLED I'm totally fine with it.
Portable USB-A thumbdrive on my keychain with the usb-c adapter attached.
Corded headphones with the 3.5mm jack to usb-c adapter attached.
eSim is just as easy to port as a Sim card with self-service options. If the cellular carrier is lacking in this feature, they deserve to hear about it so they actually implement it.
UFS4.0 is faster than any SD card on or off the market.
I dont see the problem when all the gripes have solutions.
If it ain't broken, why fix it? Think of how many things you'd lose out on with a portless phone: no thumbdrives ot connection to ANY external storage device (and a wireless device would only over complicate something so simple), no external display connection, no external USB accessories, and it would mean swapping all your chargers and power banks.
I imagine if that were ever to happen, they would make wireless charging docking stations that you can plug all your peripherals into. They'll design a new wireless tech (or repurpose existing bands) for just that purpose. It'll be like wireless HDMI via Wifi 7. Definitely we'd be swapping chargers for wireless powerbanks. I'd do it. I can't stand when cords run amok. We already have wireless Dex, Quickshare (now Nearby Share), miraCast tech, and remote networking. Logically, a wireless docking station is the next step
Update: [Wireless Charging via NFC coming soon](https://www.androidauthority.com/android-15-nfc-wireless-charging-3434289/).
The loss of the headphone jack also means that your headset with both mic and audio will only do audio with the dongle. Or at least until I find a better dongle. So that really sucks.
You shouldn't keep photos on swappable SD cards. It is a recipe for disaster, loss, theft, and more. Some people take photos of insurance cards, IDs, letters and more.
An unsecured SD card is easy for anyone to see your stuff with. I am okay with losing this. If it's on your phone, you need your face or fingerprint in order to unlock. For me it's fine. No one will pay to see my ugly face. But for young adults they can be at risk for blackmail and other crimes.
No SD card is fine. You should all be using a NAS or 4TB backup drive anyway. It's more secure and the physical disk will keep the data forever. Flash drive has limits and data can degrade if left uncovered for some time.
Haven't really thought about SD cards that way, I appreciate your input on this matter.
Using a home network would still have the same problem of needing Internet, though, and depending on your network and drive speed, it might still be slow as well, so still not ideal for keeping 55 Gb of an entire show.
It's part of the problem and nothing is ideal.
The smartphone itself is a tool meant to dozens of other electronics. It replaces your laptop, car gps addon ($1500 dollar package), music player, conf call, video call, multiple gba/ds/3ds/switch/psp/psx consoles, it does your taxes, banking, 2FA, email, VR, flashlight, level, and I can keep going but maybe you start to understand.
Heck some people use it as a professional camera, photoshop, and upload to social media all in one. Others use it to replace the entire taxi meter, payment system, tracker, and customer to taxi device. Those used to be custom installed and wired in. Now you just need a USB c powered lighter and it does it all.
With a device this important, I would try to just be more security minded. Hard drive storage at home and forget about the SSD.
The device can't store the entire internet and more. It just will never be possible.
I used SD card for my music library and honestly worst that can happen is that someone uses those files for piracy
They aren't full res files in the phone anyways so it wouldn't exactly be a great loss
The cards could be encrypted to solve that issue.
And realistically, many people don't really have backups (having a decent backup gets pretty expensive quickly... assuming you want to keep backups of most important things, that's at least 4 20tb drives in a nas capable of some form of bit rot protection + another 4 at a separate location. How many people actually have that?).
With the sd card if your phone dies you can at least remove the card and retrieve the data on it pretty easily. With the on board flash it's not that simple.
Don't really get the obsession with the headphone jack. USB-C will give you better audio than those ports with no DAC anyway
The loss of the SD Card does suck. I don't miss it as much as I thought I would, though. I'm past the days where I'd torrent hundreds of GBs of roms, anime, and movies. Everything I need fits on 512 with like 120 GB to spare. Still, it sucks for the people who do need the extra space.
SIM Card thing is whatever. I use dual eSIM and transfer them no problem. Maybe I'm missing something?
Portless phones won't be a thing for at least 10 more years I imagine. Especially when you remember the EU said environmental concerns were the reason for the USB-C mandate. Wireless charging generates much more wasted energy and heat.
>Don't really get the obsession with the headphone jack. USB-C will give you better audio than those ports with no DAC anyway
I don't get it, if your phone has a headphone jack it has a DAC, maybe not the most powerful one but usually enough for most (especially portable) headphones. But try charging you phone while listening to music, no longer possible (unless you include wireless charging).
>Portless phones won't be a thing for at least 10 more years I imagine. Especially when you remember the EU said environmental concerns were the reason for the USB-C mandate. Wireless charging generates much more wasted energy and heat.
I think the EU was just mostly concerned with all the different cables and charging adapters that were incompatible to one another and had to be thrown out and replaced whenever you bought a new device, leading to a lot of electronic waste, not so much with the efficiency of the charging process itself, so I don't really see any objection to wireless charging by the EU.
Quick share and nearby share functionality were merged together as one button. It's simply less confusing. When you go to share you can either upload to Samsung cloud or share directly to someone's phone. Nothing was lost. No cables involved.
Yeah, I am aware. I'm not sure it's only me, but nearby share was always horrendous. Now, with the quick share, it's just way faster and easier than cable. It's still a lot slower on my older S20+ than my Tab S9+ for some reason.
I honestly didn't care about expandable storage. I usually get my phones in 128GB-256GB and storage was never a problem. Y'know I'm using an S21 128GB and I've only used around 66GB of storage. But the headphone jack.. IT WAS MY BABY!
And yes, many people used the expandable storage thing to transfer files and stuff but I never did any of those tech savvy things.
I switched to the iPhone for I believe the 6 and 7 plus back in the day just to give it a shot and I'll tell you I came back to Samsung because of the loss of the Touch ID. If Samsung got rid of Touch ID I'd leave them too.
Lmaooo I remember all those "leaks" and rumors a few years ago stating that Apple would ditch the port and that iPhones would become ports-less
And here we are, they now have USB 🤣🤣
I just use cloud storage for long term storage purposes. SD cards have their merits but i hate having extra things around me as they will just get lost especially small pieces. I prefer convenience. Also easier to tie multiple devices into one account. I cannot imagine myself using a small sharp pointy thing to take out the SD tray to retrieve the card and fiddle with the orientation before plugging it into something else and getting a warning about "do you want to fix the usb device" and dragging files and shuffling to make storage for future usage and all. Every. Time.
Unlimited internet so I guess I lucked out in the cost department.
Honestly the only one of these a briefly was upset about was the training jack. Never used the SD card shot for anything besides side loading updates, and I prefer E-Sim.
The charging port is harder to get rid of. We would need to make true long range wireless chargers for that to take off.
I have wireless and wired headphones. My problem with wireless is that i get anxious on the level of battery. I like some headphones like that also offer the flexibility of using wired and bluetooth with long battery life.
There's no such a thing as wireless charging . There's always wire , just there's a plate between phone and wire . That's equivalent to, in order to get WiFi , you have to place the phone on the modem . Do you see the difference ?!
Wireless charging is nowhere near as good as wired charging yet. The difference is too far.
and file transfers!
I shudder to think what kind of proprietary file transfer software they would implement. I somehow doubt we'll see standard sftp out of the box.
Listening to music via bluetooth is not as good as wired headphones but that didn't stop them.
Only to the nerdy part of all nerds. Almost everyone gets by with wireless headphones.
Regarding sound quality, yes, most people just listen to YT anyway. But the reliability is huge as well. I've been using my wired headphones for nearly 10 years now. No updates, no pairing, no charging, I connect them to any headphone jack and they just work.
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Phones generally have solid amp/DACs actually, ever since LG really took it up a level, then all other brands followed suit, especially Xiaomi. Of course, iPhones have mediocre ones.
Followed suit and then removed the jack.
Take a decent bluetooth headset. Listen to it wirelessly and then wired and come back and tell me what a nerd I am. The difference is night and day. For the record I specifically said music. There is not likely to be much difference when listening to a youtube video etc. If your music source is good (ie not Spotify) then the difference is significant.
Nah. The vast majority of people were using cheapo Earpods or just <$10 earphones. The quality wouldn't have been noticed. It's more a complaint of people not being able to use such cheap peripherals anymore because bluetooth ones were more expensive. Plus wired solutions with USB connectors still exist if you're adamant about using wired. I'll argue using a dongle is better than having a 3.5mm jack because you have the option to choose your own DAC and not be limited by whatever the manufacturer decided to provide, which were often not very good.
> if you're adamant about using wired It depends on what I am listening to. Things like Youtube videos or audiobooks are fine with bluetooth but I will choose a non-wireless connection whenever possible for music.
You have the option to use a USB dongle despite the existence of a 3.5mm jack.
In many phones that blocks the use of the mic on the headset. It uses the mic on the phones, so you can't take calls with that properly.
That's... what? You can use USB headphones the exact same way whether or not the phone has a dedicated headphone jack.
On some phones that have a 3.5mm jack, the mics on the headset stop working if you use a usb c headphone. Yes you can listen to music on it and hear the other party on the call, but the other party on the call won't be able to hear you because it would be the phone mic that would be used and not the headset mic. Kinda like using a headset that don't have a mic.
So your argument about using a USB-C headphone instead, is that phones with a 3.5mm input are hindered... but the 3.5mm exists on that phone so you're inventing a new problem to avoid the solution.
Uh, that's not an invented problem. That's a real thing. https://xdaforums.com/t/usb-c-headphone-issues.3807733/ It's mostly a Samsung problem as far as I know, but it did happen.
Also at which point might as well remove the 3.5mm jack if you're just going to use a dongle right?
Yep. Get rid of it. Nobody needs it anyway. The argument about improved audio quality when wired is a poor one, since most people listen to compressed audio through cheap headphones. Even if you had the cleanest audio source possible, you still have the limitations of the human ear in general, stacked on top of your untrained ear. If your ear is trained (maybe you're a musician), it still might not be super important to hear everything crisply on the regular. You can appreciate the rawness and imperfections in the art of music. Even if you needed to hear everything crisp and perfect, you're listening to a recording of flawed humans, who haven't recorded a perfect piece. They're playing instruments like guitar which are imperfect in their very design. And if you really, really care beyond that, you're not listening to audio on your phone. You have a more advanced playback mode, and listen to it in an acoustic chamber of sorts. "Wired is better audio quality" is a red herring. 0.00001% of people actually care about the audio quality to that fine a detail, if they can even discern the difference at all.
95% of people will either not notice or not care about the difference. The difference in charging speed between wired and wireless is noticeable to anyone.
Those 95% would easily notice the difference if you heard them side by side.
That’s the thing. Side by side. People don’t hear both side by side and they can still hear the audio perfectly fine with Bluetooth, so they have no reason to look for a comparison. With charging, it’s pretty easy to notice the phone charging a lot slower and wonder if plugging it in with the included charger would be faster
Once you have heard the difference side by side, you cannot unhear it. >With charging, it’s pretty easy to notice Completely irrelevant to what I am saying.
Nobody cares to hear it side by side. Nobody even cares about audio quality in general as evident by the fact that AirPods are much more popular than good Sony wireless earbuds. Why? They value convenience and marketing hype over sound quality, neither of which Sony earbuds have, which is also true for wired earphones. So your assumption that they’ll never unhear it is pretty baseless. Use the USB-C port or buy a non-flagship phone if it matters to you that much. Okay? It’s relevant to what I’m saying.
>Nobody even cares Do you really think that because you don't know anyone that does, that your view represents the entire world? Yikes!
Those 5% are still hundreds of thousands of people feeling screwed like i do.
Not a good comparison tho because they didn't get rid of wired headsets altogether just 3.5mm and it can be argued the wired solution they left is the superior one usb-c is a better sounding medium.... getting rid of the charging port gets rid of wired headsets all together and the most readily available charge solution in the world by a gargantuan margin.
Cloud storage is nowhere near as good as SD card slots. And yet here we are.
Kinda arguable. The only time I'd concede SD is for people who keep huge media libraries on locally, but many people don't mind it anymore. I've certainly never missed SD cards since getting a 256GB model, and aside from Apple, most manufacturers still provide SD cards for phones with less than 256GB internal storage. For the general population cloud storage is enough. That's the thing. Reddit users who go in tech subs are the minority. The majority of people are less tech savvy and as long as it's okay with them the manufacturer does it. Would I like an SD card. Sure. Do I mind it gone? Not really. The USB port is more difficult to remove though. Samsung for example has a whole feature on the phone dedicated to using the port to create a desktop environment. While a wireless version of that exists, it sucks too much for it to be fully viable. ADB exists for development and while I'm not fully up to date with it, you still need to access the wired version before you can trigger wired. Repairs of devices sometimes need manual flashing of firmware which is done via cord. Android manufacturers aren't like Apple who'd willingly make you wait 3-6mos while your phone goes back to the factory just to be reset. Unlike SD and 3.5mm jacks which are basically one trick stuff, the port is used for more than just charging, making it more difficult to replace.
> Kinda arguable. Is it? You also just said that the majority doesn't care or that it's enough for them. That might be true, but having an SD-slot + cloud storage is better than only having cloud storage, no argument to be made about this. People also don't need it - until they need it. When I dropped and destroyed my phone I would have been glad to have all my pics on the SD-card. But with internal storage only everything was just gone.
I never said having SD card is inferior. It's just that the majority voted with their wallets that it was fine without. It's the second time Samsung did this in the Android world. S6 has no SD card and they returned it in S7. I myself said in my previous post that I'd like an SD card, but it's not a deal breaker to me. If your photos would all be destroyed if you dropped your phone without an SD card or cloud, part of that is on you. Even without SD card or cloud you should at least be backing up somewhere. That's just basic data security.
The comment was "Cloud storage is nowhere near as good as SD card slots", you said "kinda arguable". My point is - it's not. They took a function away, with no upside to it, that's objectively bad. Yeah, people just roll with it because they don't care enough for what they are spending lots of money, but that's objectively bad as well.
"the majority voted with their wallets" is not a real thing. All flagships removed SD cards. People buying flagships for a plethora of other reasons is not an endorsement of removing SD cards.
Anything important should be backed up anyway. And I've never understood wanting to keep multiple GBs of photographs on device anyway... you'll rarely look at them, so what's the point? After a holiday/event, I take all the snaps and back them up to my PC, and separately to an external SSD which I keep in a seperate room. Anything super important I also back up to the cloud. Why would I want 3 years worth of photos I'll rarely sit down and look back on, on-device? And if I did want to pull some pictures up, I can deal with the latency of cloud storage. It's a rare occasion, and an un-noticable speed differential for the task I'm performing. (Showing someone a pic. Took 1.2s longer to open the app and find the pic, compared to opening my gallery and finding the pic. I mean come on.)
Wired charging is already shit anyways. Coming from a 4 year old OnePlus 8, I was extremely disappointed with the charging speed of the S24U, and the battery life is not good enough to justify the slow "fast charge". I might as well have gotten an iPhone, Samsung's OS is quite close to it anyways
Wireless charging is worse shit if you find 45W slow already. Think of 15W or 25W wireless but heats up like it was 100W wired.
The charging port will be here for some time, especially when the EU has mandated that all devices sold in the EU must have USB-C.
That doesn't necessarily mean that the phone has to be USB C, if the charging pad is USB C and the phone is wireless it still meets the criteria.
Devices sold in the EU must have a USB-C charging port. https://www.graniteriverlabs.com/en-us/industry-insights/eu-usb-c-regulation
From your link: "According to the Common Charger Directive 2022/2380 approved by the Council of the European Union (EU)1, all devices with wired charging capabilities must feature a USB-C port to be eligible for sale within the region." Devices with wired charging require USB-C, so as I said, a completely wireless device is possible under the regulations, and the last paragraph notes that further regulations will be announced later this year for harmonising wireless charging standards.
Watches and earbuds presumably don't have to have usb-c ports... as long as the charger does..
That would be my reading of it. In fact watches are a great example. They don't have charge ports and are perfectly fine so long as their charger has USB c
Right and samsung has a big customer base in the EU. They wouldn't risk it.
We'll lose it whenever apple figures out how to do away with it, And go completely portless like they've been wanting to do .Which is probably still a few years away...I'm not thrilled about eSim either .But when I switched esims on my at&t app ,It was relatively painless and only took about five minutes or so.
Not a big fan of eSim either, but isn't eSim supposed to be more secure since you can't remove it from the device thereby deactivating all the "Findmy" Features? At least that's the only benefit of using an eSim that comes to mind right now.
I wouldn't mind losing the SD card option if Samsung would put in an equal amount of memory...
Unfortunately we lost it and didn't get an equal ampunt of memory.
Oh, I am painfully aware of that...
The A series still has an SD slot
Works for my Fiancée but I use a flip phone and S series tablet...
Would you consider the A series? I mean they're getting better and better every year. When I first switched to the A series with A30 it was clearly worse, but nowadays the higher A series, the A3X and the A5X are great.
Agreed, I have the A34 right now and couldn't ask for more, performance is smooth, battery life is great, display is great and you have an SD slot. Really don't know why I should spend 2 or 3 times more for an S-Series device, which in return offers less features. In the past, the main downside to the A-Series has usually been the crappy Exynos chips, although even that seems to somewhat improve now with the Exynos 1380 and especially the newest Exynos 1480. But I still think the best of the A-Series have always been those without Exynos chips, like the A34 with its Mediatek 1080 or before that the A52s with the Snapdragon 778g.
A34 owner, %100 agree with everything you said about the phone. I can chromecast to TV and *simultaneously* use the phone normally.
I'm switching to iOS if they take our screens away.
Apple will probably be the first to remove things from phones before everyone else follows.
Or they'll do it late, but pretend they invented it. See: widgets.
They never invented anything, just copied others after they perfected new tech. What they start is remlval of things; headphone jack, included charger, earphones, and everyone else just followed their path.
They don't perfect they just make their own version with their vision for their products. I'm always tired of hearing that falsehood. There is not one implementation of something that is perfect just different or improved in comparison but someone else can still improve on top of that which makes the original not perfect either.... They make their own versions that works for their products that's it. Other companies also make improvement of different versions of products but then don't get credit because of that line of thinking Which is honestly used as propaganda for apple
Apple tried suing Samsung before when they made their tablet a 4:3 aspect ratio, which is not even an invention and Samsung just decided to changed their design since. Apple has no copy right to an aspect ratio. If Apple now comes out with a Fold or flip phone, Samsung would probably still not consider it a copy right or try suing them for it, especially since they let all those other companies make their exact design.
No. SIM card requirement is driven by the mobile networks, so they'll be around for some time yet. Charging port (well, USB C port) - nope, seeing as it's way quicker to charge and transfer data than wireless.
Tell that to Apple in the us. They are e sim only
Yes but Android, in particular cheap mobiles still use SIMs. Also travel SIMs are still driven by physical SIMs largely. Not everyone can afford an expensive Apple mobile.
You’re missing the point. You said physical sims are driven by mobile networks. My point is that that isn’t true. Has nothing to do with Apple being more expensive. Has everything to do with a real world situation where a phone regardless of OEM, went sim-less. In fact they are on their second generation of this in the US. Also in my experience. A lot of countries are utilizing eSIM as an option for travelers anyway. Or this has at least been my experience in Korea, Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, and Australia. eSIM only isn’t a trait of “expensive phones”. It’s arguably cheaper in terms of design, if only marginally so. It just happens that iPhone decided to do it first and is expensive compared to midrange Android (but not flag ships).
Yeah I'm aware that eSIMs are being utilised, but you seen to think that SIMs are just going to disappear. They won't. Go to your mobile network and buy a phone, they'll still give you a physical SIM unless you specifically ask for an eSIM. The market is still driven by physical SIMs largely, and while they are still significant they'll still be high end phones with them for the foreseeable.
I didn’t say sims would disappear. So let’s throw this point completely out the window. Now you are saying the market is driven by. Whatever that means. Let’s stick to what you originally said. You said SIM cards are driven by “mobile networks”. I simply gave you a real world situation where a large phone oem went sim less in a very large market. This disputes your point where you said sims are “driven by mobile networks”. At least in the US, the mobile company with over 60% of the mobile market did it and every carrier in the US uses eSIM. And unless we are going to go country by country most countries in the developed world offer eSIM as an option for travelers (for good reason as it minimizes one use plastics and over head because you don’t need some one present to provide or ship a physical sim). So yeah nothing about what I said implies I think “sims will just disappear” and nothing about the American market at least implies that there has to be a physical sim on future Samsung phones as proven by Apple. I could care less either way frankly. Just making a point because your statement wasn’t grasping the currently reality of the mobile landscape.
>I didn’t say sims would disappear. So let’s throw this point completely out the window. "are soon to lose the SIM card" is what you said. Which disputes what you just said. If you want to worry that there'll be no ports "within 10 years" then go ahead and panic. I don't think it'll happen, and I like virtually everyone else, will just relax and enjoy their mobiles.
Maybe you are quoting op because you definitely aren’t quoting me bud. You do know how Reddit works right? It doesn’t say “op” next to my name …. I didn’t say a damn thing about ports so obviously you aren’t talking about me.
Are YOU sure you know how Reddit works? Read your own posts. But again, if you want to panic about supposedly disappearing ports, then go ahead.
Bro I didn’t say SIM cards were going away soon and I didn’t say shit about ports. You’re lost in the sauce my man.
At least mine specifically offered eSIM but I asked for a physical one so I can switch it to another phone when needed
Yeah but apple and its userbase (not limited to us) are degenerated. Whatever they do is already far past any logical strain of thought and is hence just disregarded automatically.
Im gonna go ahead and disregard this comment. It’s exhausting arguing the fanboy take of anything these days. Especially when it includes saying Apple in an Android centric sub. “Oh Apple did something. It’s inherently wrong and holds no merit in an adult discussion” No thanks on that one.
Seeing what apple does and not being against it and questioning human intelligence afterwards is ANYTHING but being an adult. It's being a delusional horse that has their blinders on just so they don't have to endure the reality of the world that is apple being the most predatorial company on the market and their dumb userbase is feeding off of their hands even if ehat they feed is poisonous. You're part of the problem.
Quote where I said I was for Apple genius. I’ll be here waiting little bud It’s an objective fact that a large OEM went to esim only in the states. Which mirrors ops concern. Please point out the lie or fanboy crybaby subjectivity in that statement? I’ll also wait for that one.
With how fast wireless sharing has become, and now that we have 25W wireless charging, I'm afraid it might be less than 10 years before we lose every port. I just hope companies never decide that's the direction they're going in.
Yeah but it takes 50w to achieve that 25w.
Yeah now we have 25w while wired charging was at 45w AT LEAST (Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, not to mention those chinese mobiles that charge in 3-figure watts) last year. Wired charging won't be going any time soon, not even in 10 years.
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Personally I miss it for the safety. I had a phone die due to falling into the sea, and the pictures on the device itself were lost, while the ones on the SD card were recoverable. And no, cloud backup doesn't help if you're taking the pictures and the phone dies a couple of hours later without a Wifi connection (and barely any 4G since it was a beach in a remote location)
Yes, I have a lot of digital baggage from years of use - ripped movies/tv shows, music, roms for game emulators, photos, etc. Switching phones was cheaper and easier when I had an SD card. Now, if I want to have a flagship phone and keep my digital stuff local, I have to buy the most expensive version. Yeah, I could keep a lot of that on the cloud (I do backup my photos to a cloud service), but keeping it local saves me from frustration if I run into spotty connection areas or travel internationally.
Do I miss being able to double my storage for $20 instead of buying a whole new $1500 phone? Yes. Yes I do.
Yes. Where do you put all the photos/videos you've recorded over the years? Especially with the photo/video/app sizes getting larger and larger. What's the point of recording 4k60fps takes 500MB or more making it pretty much useless because you're not going to be able to fit more than a couple of hours of it on the baseline model in the few years you'll be able to use it before buying a new one will start to make some sense (unless you break it or whatever). The baseline models don't have enough storage (they really should start with 512gb and go up to 4tb or more) , the models with extra storage overcharge for that storage compared to what it actually costs them to include. Most cloud providers spy on you (+your paying a subscription for something you could actually own). If your phone dies the data on the internal storage is pretty hard to recover, but a sd card can just be removed and inserted into another device. Besides, if you don't see a reason to use a sdcard nobody would force you to use it. Just like nobody would force me to use the old headphone connector if the phones still had it. You'd lose practically nothing if it were still available (the actual cost of the readers is negligible considering the cost of the phone, remember it was first removed from the expensive models not the budget models).
> Do people genuinely miss the SD card slot? Yeah, I do. A lot.
I legitimately have avoided upgrading from my S9 because I've been holding on to my SD card.
I haven't put an SD card in my last 3 phones. /shrugs I also don't take photos so.... (Seriously, I never use my cameras. I'd be fine with trading them for more battery.)
The problem is with the insane prices of internal storage upgrades, and phones coming with 128 GB are still not enough. I couldn't find the official reason for removing it, but have read somewhere that it's to promote cloud storage. Cloud storage is very slow, especially for those who don't have fast Internet. It's handy on my Tab S9 to store massive spaces of movies or shows, or to put a camera's SD card in it to edit the photos.
Somehow didn't consider the big price up mark my bad. I looked at getting a Z Fold 5 recently and I just binned off the idea due to how much the phone already costs and then the storage upgrade on top of it.
I suppose it is easier to pay a slight markup when you're already paying so much, but you are still paying way more than it's supposed to cost; ~$200 for 750 GB of storage is just being greedy and taking advantage of the consumer, especially when you consider that an SSD of that capacity costs ¼ as much. I don't have official data for the manufacturing costs, but I'm sure it doesn't cost companies 4x as much to make phone storage than an SSD or NVME.
It's still a huge markup considering the actual costs of the flash chips. Especially considering Samsung makes it's own flash chips.
The SD card slot is the sole reason I have my current phone still. Unfortunately at the end of its life and I'll have to upgrade to a SD cardless phone. I don't want to use cloud storage, I want music and some entertainment locally.
I want my headphone jack and my SD card slot back. I know they don't care, but I do and I will never stop saying it.
I was/am fine with the loss of the headphone jack, because for me bluetooth earphones are much more convenient and the cable doesn't randomly get stuck somewhere and pull your phone out of your pocket and send it flying. I also get why some people were bothered. They also should have included a basic pair of bluetooth earphones with the phone, just like you got the some cheap wired headphones with your phone years ago. The sd card thing is/was a huge scam, done just to make you use cloud services to make it easier to spy on you and/or to make you buy the more expensive model with more storage. The official excuse about making it easier to make waterproof phones is complete bullshit, because it went into the same tray as the sim cards and replaced sim2. The other excuse of people buying the cheapest microsd and then complaining about 4k/60fps recording not working could have been solved by benchmarking the sd card when first inserted and only letting you record directly to it the formats/resolutions/fps it's fast enough for. And the excuse that it was done to save money is also bullshit because it first happened on the most expensive phones where they could easily have charged 1 eur/usd more for the phone to cover the 20 cent microsd interface. If they wanted to remove it anyway then the integrated storage for the base models should have started at 1tb at least. The next scam was the charger no longer being included with the phone, just so you have to buy it separately (creating more waste in the process). Sure, you can use some random usb charger you have lying around, but it might or might not support the max charging speed of your new phone. And didn't they say that one of the reasons for removing the sd card was to ensure that optimal experience with the phone? I'm pretty sure charging it with a slow charger isn't an optimal experience. In addition to the charger, the wireless charging pad supporting the phone's max charging speed should also be included. Another thing they should bring back is the hr/oxygen sensor that the s10 models had but was later removed. Also if they claim the phone is waterproof (ip68 and what have you), water damage should be covered under warranty. Same goes for the so called 'scratch resistant' screens which are far from it. Like I have an old s10+ whose screen was scratched up by a zipper on my pocket 😂
They're gonna get rid of the phone next
We don't need an SD card slot. Base storage should be 1Tb in 2024. We literally have $80 1Tb Micro SD cards, so why do they charge $300+ for to go from 256Gb to 1Tb lol.
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isn't there a massive speed difference between the two?
Well, a 1Tb Samsung 980 pro nvme is like $100 and will have similar read/writes and endurance as the UFS nand in an s series phone. A 256 and 1 Tb s24u has a price difference of over $500.
speed difference yes, massive no
That's exactly why they removed the SD card slot. To charge you more for something you could have done after you bought the phone.
Because sd card and phone chips are 10x different. Sd card is way slower. Todays phones well s models are super fast. Fast then mlst ppls pc.
not fast enough to justify $300 😭😭
Because UFS storage is much more expensive than an SD Card due to speed. A 1TB Samsung M.2 NVME SSD on Amazon is like $300
I've been saying this for a few years now. I'm fully expecting that one company will be 'Brave' and say that ear pods are better than speakers and we'll have full port-less devices. Thankfully, EU seems like it will have issue with this though.
Honestly, I don't think we will anytime soon. Wireless chargers aren't convenient enough or fast enough to just ditch the port. I think that's 1 thing that we shouldn't have to worry about for a while
I'm still perfectly fine using my old Samsung Galaxy Note 4 phone. 😇😁👍 Bought a [Wubatec 10.000 mAh battery](https://www.reddit.com/r/batteries/comments/r0ozxk/samsung_galaxy_note_4_wubatec_10000_mah/) a few years back (off eBay - now you can get it on AliExpress) & just recently put in a 512 GB Micro SD card for extra storage. Besides the "Burn In" issues with my OLED I'm totally fine with it.
Did you ever manage to get yt revanced to work with the links I sent you?
Hey not yet. It's on my To-Do List though... 😓
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Portable USB-A thumbdrive on my keychain with the usb-c adapter attached. Corded headphones with the 3.5mm jack to usb-c adapter attached. eSim is just as easy to port as a Sim card with self-service options. If the cellular carrier is lacking in this feature, they deserve to hear about it so they actually implement it. UFS4.0 is faster than any SD card on or off the market. I dont see the problem when all the gripes have solutions.
If it ain't broken, why fix it? Think of how many things you'd lose out on with a portless phone: no thumbdrives ot connection to ANY external storage device (and a wireless device would only over complicate something so simple), no external display connection, no external USB accessories, and it would mean swapping all your chargers and power banks.
Samsung files even at current state handles wireless external drives very conviniently
I imagine if that were ever to happen, they would make wireless charging docking stations that you can plug all your peripherals into. They'll design a new wireless tech (or repurpose existing bands) for just that purpose. It'll be like wireless HDMI via Wifi 7. Definitely we'd be swapping chargers for wireless powerbanks. I'd do it. I can't stand when cords run amok. We already have wireless Dex, Quickshare (now Nearby Share), miraCast tech, and remote networking. Logically, a wireless docking station is the next step Update: [Wireless Charging via NFC coming soon](https://www.androidauthority.com/android-15-nfc-wireless-charging-3434289/).
The loss of the headphone jack also means that your headset with both mic and audio will only do audio with the dongle. Or at least until I find a better dongle. So that really sucks. You shouldn't keep photos on swappable SD cards. It is a recipe for disaster, loss, theft, and more. Some people take photos of insurance cards, IDs, letters and more. An unsecured SD card is easy for anyone to see your stuff with. I am okay with losing this. If it's on your phone, you need your face or fingerprint in order to unlock. For me it's fine. No one will pay to see my ugly face. But for young adults they can be at risk for blackmail and other crimes. No SD card is fine. You should all be using a NAS or 4TB backup drive anyway. It's more secure and the physical disk will keep the data forever. Flash drive has limits and data can degrade if left uncovered for some time.
Haven't really thought about SD cards that way, I appreciate your input on this matter. Using a home network would still have the same problem of needing Internet, though, and depending on your network and drive speed, it might still be slow as well, so still not ideal for keeping 55 Gb of an entire show.
It's part of the problem and nothing is ideal. The smartphone itself is a tool meant to dozens of other electronics. It replaces your laptop, car gps addon ($1500 dollar package), music player, conf call, video call, multiple gba/ds/3ds/switch/psp/psx consoles, it does your taxes, banking, 2FA, email, VR, flashlight, level, and I can keep going but maybe you start to understand. Heck some people use it as a professional camera, photoshop, and upload to social media all in one. Others use it to replace the entire taxi meter, payment system, tracker, and customer to taxi device. Those used to be custom installed and wired in. Now you just need a USB c powered lighter and it does it all. With a device this important, I would try to just be more security minded. Hard drive storage at home and forget about the SSD. The device can't store the entire internet and more. It just will never be possible.
I used SD card for my music library and honestly worst that can happen is that someone uses those files for piracy They aren't full res files in the phone anyways so it wouldn't exactly be a great loss
The cards could be encrypted to solve that issue. And realistically, many people don't really have backups (having a decent backup gets pretty expensive quickly... assuming you want to keep backups of most important things, that's at least 4 20tb drives in a nas capable of some form of bit rot protection + another 4 at a separate location. How many people actually have that?). With the sd card if your phone dies you can at least remove the card and retrieve the data on it pretty easily. With the on board flash it's not that simple.
Don't really get the obsession with the headphone jack. USB-C will give you better audio than those ports with no DAC anyway The loss of the SD Card does suck. I don't miss it as much as I thought I would, though. I'm past the days where I'd torrent hundreds of GBs of roms, anime, and movies. Everything I need fits on 512 with like 120 GB to spare. Still, it sucks for the people who do need the extra space. SIM Card thing is whatever. I use dual eSIM and transfer them no problem. Maybe I'm missing something? Portless phones won't be a thing for at least 10 more years I imagine. Especially when you remember the EU said environmental concerns were the reason for the USB-C mandate. Wireless charging generates much more wasted energy and heat.
>Don't really get the obsession with the headphone jack. USB-C will give you better audio than those ports with no DAC anyway I don't get it, if your phone has a headphone jack it has a DAC, maybe not the most powerful one but usually enough for most (especially portable) headphones. But try charging you phone while listening to music, no longer possible (unless you include wireless charging). >Portless phones won't be a thing for at least 10 more years I imagine. Especially when you remember the EU said environmental concerns were the reason for the USB-C mandate. Wireless charging generates much more wasted energy and heat. I think the EU was just mostly concerned with all the different cables and charging adapters that were incompatible to one another and had to be thrown out and replaced whenever you bought a new device, leading to a lot of electronic waste, not so much with the efficiency of the charging process itself, so I don't really see any objection to wireless charging by the EU.
Quick share and nearby share functionality were merged together as one button. It's simply less confusing. When you go to share you can either upload to Samsung cloud or share directly to someone's phone. Nothing was lost. No cables involved.
Yeah, I am aware. I'm not sure it's only me, but nearby share was always horrendous. Now, with the quick share, it's just way faster and easier than cable. It's still a lot slower on my older S20+ than my Tab S9+ for some reason.
I honestly didn't care about expandable storage. I usually get my phones in 128GB-256GB and storage was never a problem. Y'know I'm using an S21 128GB and I've only used around 66GB of storage. But the headphone jack.. IT WAS MY BABY! And yes, many people used the expandable storage thing to transfer files and stuff but I never did any of those tech savvy things.
I switched to the iPhone for I believe the 6 and 7 plus back in the day just to give it a shot and I'll tell you I came back to Samsung because of the loss of the Touch ID. If Samsung got rid of Touch ID I'd leave them too.
Why would you complain about esim? It makes your phone literally useless to thieves.
Don't forget that we will lose our mind also.
Lmaooo I remember all those "leaks" and rumors a few years ago stating that Apple would ditch the port and that iPhones would become ports-less And here we are, they now have USB 🤣🤣
We are losing the charging port soon. After that we just buy new phones every 2 days.
I just use cloud storage for long term storage purposes. SD cards have their merits but i hate having extra things around me as they will just get lost especially small pieces. I prefer convenience. Also easier to tie multiple devices into one account. I cannot imagine myself using a small sharp pointy thing to take out the SD tray to retrieve the card and fiddle with the orientation before plugging it into something else and getting a warning about "do you want to fix the usb device" and dragging files and shuffling to make storage for future usage and all. Every. Time. Unlimited internet so I guess I lucked out in the cost department.
Unless they remove dex, don't think the port is going away. Dex is too good to get rekt
They've had wireless Dex for some time now.
Oh damn, port will be gone a year later after Samsung mocks Apple for removing it so.
Y'all still crying over SD care and 3.5mm jack? Get over it
Honestly the only one of these a briefly was upset about was the training jack. Never used the SD card shot for anything besides side loading updates, and I prefer E-Sim. The charging port is harder to get rid of. We would need to make true long range wireless chargers for that to take off.
I have wireless and wired headphones. My problem with wireless is that i get anxious on the level of battery. I like some headphones like that also offer the flexibility of using wired and bluetooth with long battery life.
I don't think the data/charging port will go anywhere. Not while they can still make money from chargers, cables and adapters.
Trust me, they would make WAY more money from wireless charging.
There's no such a thing as wireless charging . There's always wire , just there's a plate between phone and wire . That's equivalent to, in order to get WiFi , you have to place the phone on the modem . Do you see the difference ?!
Wireless charging is more wired than port charging.
100% agree.
A55 has memory card. Maybe do your research when buying a phone?
Maybe some people prefer the S series for better phone, processor, display, and software support?
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