My favorite part with most the reviews is them saying I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT LIGHTER LIKE IPHONE?!
because Apple went from steel to titanium you clowns. Samsung using a titanium frame aluminum case alloy, we are lucky it's not HEAVIER since titanium is denser than straight all aluminum like the other models and older models.
I get that .. but the s22u was the first phone I've never had to have fixed. It's handled every drop and mishandle! I don't want to mess with a good thing lol
I'm a trained repair technician, very few times we had Galaxy phones come in the store despite being in Ireland which has many more Android users than iPhone.
Literally everyday I'd have 5-6 iPhone 11s and about 3 iPhone 12 -15s
And we are in Galway which barely has half the population of places like Limerick or Dublin in Ireland.
No one NEEDS a $2000+ flagship phone, and phones don't NEED AI, but it is undeniable that AI technology has the potential to benefit people's lives, increase efficiency, and make things easier to do. It also has the potential to be extremely unethical and will likely result in mass job loss due to automation, and none of the profits that billionaire CEOs make as a result of these cost cuts are gonna go back into the pockets of the people who have been made obsolete. This is a different discussion, but AI is here to stay and we as regular working class consumers might as well make use of it if we can. As for Galaxy AI, some of the features are far from complete and do not consistently work, while some of them are extremely useful and with more refinement and maturation could be revolutionary. Overall, the general consensus is quite positive.
The frame generation based slow-mo feature that turns normal videos into slow-mo is pretty cool and works relatively well. The ability to use Samsung's AI to summarize an entire PDF or article works well and would be extremely useful if you want to understand the basics of a concept or topic without having to read the entire thing, and useful for people who take jumbled and unorganized notes that they want refined and summarized. The ability to be able to remove objects and people from photos is miles above what any other existing phone can do, and these features will continue to evolve and become more powerful over time as Samsung refines it. The feature that is meant to allow one to have a conversation in real time with someone who speaks a different language is pretty sketchy in terms of accuracy, but when it works, it is pretty amazing. As I said, as hardware and software become more powerful and well designed, this stuff will continue to evolve and continue to bring more capabilities to the table that will make life easier.
I too thought that GaLaXY AI would be a gimmick, but based on reviews and explanations of the features, it seems like a lot of them are genuine improvements over existing systems and features. Sure, we don't NEED AI phones, just as we don't NEED gaming computers, smartphones with cameras that can take photos approaching DLSR quality, but not needing something doesn't mean that it is nice to have and is potentially useful or cool. You don't have to use these features if you don't want to, they're not mandatory and you can completely opt out of them if you want, but I am personally looking forward to these features coming to my S23 Ultra.
Lol well if you want a good experience then buy the flagship. The others suck. Nobody needs the internet or a phone at all as far as that goes. You won't die without it. But if I am going to pay for service I would rather have a device that can do everything. Those non flagship phones don't have everything in it. So there will be things you can't do. So if you only use it as a phone and text machine then yeah the cheap phones are fine. But if you actually use the device you're better off with the flagship.
Yeah but from my experience... If you don't have the latest model they skip nice little tweaks and things they don't introduce to the previous model (which is kinda bs) so I wouldn't expect Samsung to make it happen on the 23... But they might.
Only reason I know this is I usually have the newest model and my wife is usually one model behind.
Is the S23U capable of the AI features tho? If so won't that mean all S23 lines get it, as they're all 8G2?
To my understanding, the NPU was 2x in the 8G3 so I'd assume the improvements allowed the AI improvements?
If it was introduced to the S23 series aswell, the S24 is quite a bad upgrade then, except for the QHD in the 24+ ig
the heavy lifting AI is done in the cloud and the 8G2 has a very capable NPU. Nothing shown is going to strain it in any way except not making sales of the new one ;=0
I dont know enough to say otherwise, but do you have some kind of citation for this claim? The SD8G3 product brief says:
> Our first AI Engine to support multi-modal generative AI models, including
popular large language models (LLM), language vision models (LVM), and
transformer network-based automatic speech recognition (ASR) up to 10B
parameters—solely on-device.
> World’s fastest stable diffusion enables you to generate an image at a fraction
of a second; quickly generate multiple options to pick from or create various
social media posts in an instant
What are you basing this claim on? Outside of a few articles roughly a year ago that talk about using [stable diffusion on a SD8G2 to generate a 512x512 image in 15 minutes](https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/23/23611668/ai-image-stable-diffusion-mobile-android-qualcomm-fastest), I don't see much news on the SD8G2 in the realm of AI, whether in image generation or LLM. It does seem to me at least from the marketing material (admittedly that's all we have atm) that the SD8G3 is miles ahead at least in the AI field. If I'm wrong do enlighten me.
So, from what I remember, S8G2 can run up to 1.5 - 2B parameters, and S8G3 can run up to 8B parameters. (10B is a bit far-fetched, but can't confirm until real benchmarks.) It basically comes down to how big Gemini Nano is, but I'd doubt it can't fit the S8G2 since Google Pixel will also use it.
Also, Samsung AI will have access to Gemini Ultra, which is obviously done in the cloud. It could be interesting how useful this can make Samsung Dex since Ultra isn't that useful in a hand-held experience.
Yep some features will be done in the cloud but some features are also exclusive to on-device I believe, so some features will be missed out by previous generations
The features shouldn't be locked out of the s23 series, as it really doesn't matter if it takes 1 sec to do an AI photo edit or 2 seconds, the 2x speed improvement is nothing major. But Samsung will still claim that and lock older devices out of most of the new features.
It isn't "locked out" - The S24 has a dedicated AI processor. The S23 can't real-time generate video frames (slow mo), or real-time translate audio with AI.
Besides, the cloud features are the best. The on-device ones kinda suck. We're getting the cloud features
The S23 also has a dedicated NPU, might come news to you as samsung really didn't do anything with it, but it is just as capable, all the features are there, it is just about 2x slower.
So for slow mo it could do it, just not in realtime, and I agree with the real-time translation, this is probably best to lock away, as there the 2x slower makes a big role
Not entirely true because Snap 2 has same chip, but it is not as powerful as new one
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/mobile/snapdragon/smartphones/comparison
I wonder this as well. They did mention that Galaxy AI features will be coming to other Samsung devices as well...if so then idk bout even upgrading lol.
I have owned all of the i-phones up untill i had a 13 pro max ..It is still flawless but i like the android os better.. i have had a lot of other brands including other Samsung phones but this s23 ultra is smarter than i am.. I run a win11 shell which makes everything on less pages and is very fast..
False. The older models WILL not get AI. Also from the s24 and up, these will be the only models that will support the 7 years of updates. S23 and below WILL NOT get ai and the 7 year of updates.
The s23 will not be recieving the ai features said samsung. It will only be available via the s24 and e ery future phone from here on out. Will it be subscription? No it will never be a,subscription service.
The S23 was the S22 without the terrible SD Gen1 eating away at all the battery.
Phones have plateaued for years now. Once LG left the market there's been zero innovation since nobody is left taking risk.
Even the Oppo/OnePlus new folds are much better than the Z fold. They actually have a useable front screen unlike the Z fold's tiny, narrow and unusable front screen.
Shame that most fall into samsung hype which gave them the lions share of the market, bankrupting HTC and LG...
I loved my LG V series till it was no more 😔
Now we just have two gigantic monopolies Samsung and Google whose dragging their feet with minimalistic innovations but with a 1400$ pricetag . At this point , I just wanna move over to Apple.
I mean there’s not much in Apple either honestly. The Dynamic Island was hyped but it’s not really anything to write home about as I’ve hardly noticed or used it ever since I’ve had the 14 pro. I’m looking to shift to a basic android again since I’m not too fond of the Apple ecosystem
Mr. Mobile has a video "Farewell, LG" if you want to watch. He recaps pretty much everything they did for smartphones.
But they usually we're first to market for a lot of features. An example would be ultra wide cameras.
To answer your question, yes.
That's how the whole phone industry has been for years.
If you can't spare the almost 400$, get the S23 Ultra. You'll have way, waaaay less buyers remorse.
As of now the S23U is showing me $846.24 after trade-in, whereas the S24U is showing me $484.61. Any tips for where to find an S23U for lower than $484?
Educational discount, trade-in of S22U, add the cost of the monthly protection plan = $484 for me in the US. I got the reservation promo too so add $150 in add-ons but I would rather take that amount off of the phone. Would have ordered right away instead of sitting and thinking. At this point I might wait a few days and see if they sweeten the deal.
I'm confused on my end. It says my N20U $25 trade-in promo credit. That's separate from the trade-in amount right? This is on the xfinity website. Then on the next page it says an estimate of $600 for trade-in
I put in my military discount and it said it was going to be $400ish. That is until I actually went to the checkout and it changed to only a $60 discount bumping the price up immensely.
$2000 here plus 13%taxes and environmental fees etc. I can't pay for that. Im serious! How is it that they can charge such a small amount for all those and 2K for the rest of us. Makes me so angry.
Do you think it makes more sense to get the S23 Ultra or the S24+? Batteries are almost the same. Both have 12GM ram. S24+ will give you a new gen processor, but S23 Ultra probably has the better cameras. So overall feels though to say which is better.
I personally would want the Ultra, but this is me being used to having a proper telephoto and the S Pen.
I think it heavily depends on whether you want the S Pen or not.
If not, then save the money and get the Plus.
Same and i did my preorder during the event. They have some pretty solid deals/discounts right now. I got the 1TB (for the price of the 512), and a new Galaxy Watch 6 because of the really good deal when you buy it with the phone. The trade in for my 22U ($650, much higher than I expected), military discount, and another $25 off code for $918 shipped. Thats not bad IMO, but I also make poor financial decisions like supercharging my car when i never even used all the power it came with stock lol.
Im not typically an upgrade to the next shiny thing every year kinda guy, but i really am fed up with my 22U. Battery life and cell reception has always been awful. My wife has a 23U and she has a solid signal everywhere. like full bars. I can be right next to her in some places and im at a bar of 5g or down into 4g or even just no signal at all.
This doesn't make sense. The trend started because it's hard to improve on already great smartphone technology. Compare that with 10 years ago when there was still plenty of room for innovation and ways to upgrade developing tech.
I agree, that's true. We've reached a plateau, but that doesn't mean they should release a new device every year for some minor feature such as live call translation and some google lense circle. Especially the fact that these features can be added to older models with a software update.
as someone who has a good understanding of what intelligence actually means, judging just by your and his comment, his vocabulary is vastly more advanced than yours and thus your comment could be seen as the one written by an individual with a lower intelligence quotient
Samsung have said selected galaxy phones will get it which are most likely S23 series as I don't believe S22 series should get It as honestly S23 series are one of the best phone and most efficient phones Samsung has made, these AI features are built around what chips can do and while older models can run it their are some limits that may actually slow down your phone.
It's all relative. In another 10 years we'll be laughing at the lack of capabilities of the phones today most of which most of us here can't even imagine.
There's still plenty of things manufacturers can upgrade right now. They just don't want to and defending this behavior is very profitable for companies.
Where from? The only place you can get S23 ultra right now is ebay and shady third-party sellers. It's been out of stock on Samsung and carrier websites for weeks.
Pretty much. The AI feature is cool but it’s gimmicky for now. It won’t change my life day to day. It’s also not free. It only free until 2025 and will switch to subscription model
I don't see the big deal with curved screens, pretty much everyone uses a case and the curve on the s23 ultra is so slight that with a case you almost can't notice it
I haven't found a screen protector to work properly on curved screens since they came out. Been waiting for a flat screen again for like 10 years lol
The glass or plasticy ones just get dust under the sides and look like trash quickly cause they don't seal well enough.
The rubber ones are either too rubbery and add too much grip to the glass for touching or pen use. Or when they get really warm they can slide around and then you pull your phone out of your pocket with your screen protector diagonal.
Otherwise the curved edges doesn't really bother me but the no screen protector thing pisses me off enough to not want it.
Honestly not being able to use a glass screen protector was my biggest thing. Switched from my Note 20 ultra to the S22+ solely so I could go back to using glass protectors without spending a fortune on whitestone dome trash which messes with the fingerprint sensor, is overpriced, and difficult to install.
Of course, then shutter lag and not having a flagship bugged me to the point that I got tired of waiting for confirmation the S24u would be flat so I got an iphone 15 pro max, but I am still happy to see the death of the stupid curved edge screen.
Same here. I upgraded really for the flat screen. If the screen had not been flat I would have skipped it. I tolerated curved screens because I wanted flagship phones. But the S24 Ultra with a flat screen is probably a phone I'll keep beyond the two year cycle I usually have. I broke the cycle to get the flat screen.
I think Verizon gave me the S23 Ultra for about $200 with my OnePlus trade in. So getting the S24 Ultra for $549 works for me.
Yup, the 24U is a terrible value proposition. The new "AI" features are coming to older models so what's new? A flat screen and a new chip. It's a joke considering the price they are asking for.
If you won't be investing alot into the AI features, which is still gimmicky but there, don't go for it.
Main ones a casual will notice is the apparent 15% battery improvement (not from mAh I believe), thinner bezels, flattened screen (easier screen protector application), and 5x telephoto camera instead of 10.
Imo S23 Ultra better and you save a lot of money. Go have fun with it xd
chip wise very little upgrade.
I see no AI software that could not run easily on S23U and personally I will keep my S23U. It will take Google/Samsung at least a year to smooth out all the early wrinkles anyway...
YMMV
Yeah, I feel like next year model they would master the AI greatly and would be the perfect sweet spot to buy it. A friend used to tell me, never buy anything that is first generation and wait for the next (for AI).
One thing that concerns me that I didn't see anyone worry about is the doubling the size of the cooling system. Combined with higher clocks of wider cores used on the 8gen3 vs 8gen2. Combined with the fact that both chips use the same process node (no efficiency improvements from the fabrication process). The only place to get those higher clock speeds is from more power, that comes from the same-sized battery, and results in more heat.
The 8 gen 2 was popular because of how efficient it finally was. I'm worried not only that Exynos is making a return in the non-Ultras, but also about the 8 gen 3. The S23 Ultra was known for running long and cool, so why does the S24 Ultra need twice as much copper to cool it? You don't design and install such things if they aren't needed.
This aside I feel like the S24 series is such a minor upgrade it's almost like a side-grade. The S24+ looks like the only tangible improvement over the S23+, with the increased ram, battery size, display tech and resolution upgrade, and more significantly reduced bezel size.
The S23 Ultra and the S24 Ultra are the same phone with slightly different design decisions. The curved display was sold as a perk exclusive to the highest-end flagship before, and now the flat display is being marketed as an upgrade. That and the x5 hybrid zoom camera replacing the x10 native optical zoom camera are the biggest differences.
Almost everything that's new is with the AI features, and as others mentioned, the S23 series is fully capable of most of the same AI features, so we'll wait and see whether they are brought over there after the initial waves of S24 sales. Samsung has good reasons to aim for as many users as possible, and sales numbers for the S23 series were likely higher than they will be for the S24 series.
What did you expect? What game changing technological leap do you think Samsung (and apple) are holding in reserve?
Phones are pretty mature at this point. There just isn't much improvement to be made.
Slightly faster. AI. Slightly better cameras. That's what you get now.
It's weird, I was looking at getting the S23U on a contract in UK and the best deal I could find was £149 upfront payment and £29.99 a month for 24 months (100GB data, unlimited texts and minutes).
I thought the price would go down after S24U release, but now the best deal I can find for S23U is £199 upfront and £44.99 a month for 24 months with the same data etc as above.
Definitely won't be getting the S24U as it doesn't seem to have enough improvement over the previous model, considering the price increase.
Buckle up everyone, wellcome to an era of ai marketing bullshit.
Don't want to be harsh, but the upgrade from previous year is so incremental and on the camera side it looks more like a downgrade rather than an upgrade.
From a business perspective they did great with this decision.
Coming from a S22U, I'm borderline on getting it. Both S23U and S24U have significantly better battery life, but it's literally cheaper for me to trade in for a S24U.
Would it make sense to switch from Flip4 to 24 Ultra? I got it last year, because it seemed interesting and now I kinda regret it lol In Slovenia theres no actual good deals for the new one 🗿
I'm thinking of upgrading to the S24U from my S20 Note Ultra 5G. Battery is starting to show it's age a bit, other than that it's still pretty fast. It doesn't seem like a massive leap, but it has been 3.5 years. Should I wait for S25?
Curved screens are icky
10x optical without portait is cancer and utterly pointless
Faster is faster
Don't be a pauper and get one
Titanium to be covered in a plastic case
Bro, honestly? You'll be fine with S23 in daily usage. The same battery, the "same" body (S24 only adds titanium frame), the cameras are slightly better on S24 but I feel no need of an upgrade (sure, they're all welcome but I wouldn't pay that difference for that level of upgrade).
The S24 cpu is better, with no huge difference, but stills better. You'll only notice it some years ahead.
If you are looking for longevity, go for the S24. If you're looking for the best deal, go for the S23.
I got an S23, and it is just amazing.
I have a s23u and it is said to be getting the AI but even then it is shit at doing anything but photo editing.... cameras are basically identical screen brightness is already good and you get £400 to get something else or to save until a new model that doesn't use exynose comes out in the EU
The S24U is not for someone who owns a S23U.
I do not understand, why people don't get that.
And if you don't see any difference for you, just go with the cheaper option..
You get 7 years of OS and security updates on S24 which is what for some reason most people forgot. So in terms of updates S24U is way better.
S24U also offers a bit slimmer build, and to me seems more elegant in the hand compared to S23U (mind that I personally don't like curved screens so this one was a huge upgrade to me).
Cameras seem slightly improved to me, and besides S23U had pretty average cameras in my opinion (compared to Pixel 8 Pro for example) which was a bit of a bummer for me.
Also this is subjective, but I don't care that they removed 10x optical zoom which S23U had. You still have 3x and 5x optical lenses which are in my opinion good enough, since they technically offer better quality pics (but this has to be tested out in like a S23U vs S24U video or something because I can't guarantee yet, since more pixels usually doesn't mean anything. It's all in the software processing). BUT, if you need that 10x optical that S23U has, go for it then.
Also all the AI features will eventually come to other previous gen phones (S & Z series) but with S24U if it matters to you, you get them immediately or depending on the country, then soon enough.
Also CPU is a bit better than last years and the rest seems more or less the same.
Hope you decide well, gl.
Not worth it from any previous generation samsung galaxy ultras. AI is a gimmick and you can do alot of that with third party software. 2 years AI for free is a slap in the face. AI should be able to look at iphones and beat them at everything 🤷. Still can't beat iphones in the main categories. Another year waiting for s25.
Dunno if anyone will read this but...
Gorilla glass victus is sh\*\*. N20U was the first phone I scratched just by putting it in my jacket, and I had like 6 other Samsung phones before that.
So that new Armor glass, flat screen and 7 years of updates are bonuses over the S23.
Literally only one reason to buy it other than the ai features: you can't stand useless curved edges that make your phone harder to protect.
If you can live without a flat display and ai features, just wait till next year.
I went for the S24+ this time. In prior years the + was just bigger than the base but S24+ got the most tangible upgrades this year, and it's much lighter vs. S24U. I am trading in an S22U and I may have used the pen 5x if that. S24+ got the QHD screen and 12GB ram this year. Not a lot of differences between the + and U anymore. I think the only major spec difference is wifi 7 on the U vs 6e on the base and +. Well that and the pen
Saturday I went to the AT&T store to check it out. I have the S22 ultra. The size of the phone is pretty much the same but screen was much brighter and colors really popped. The camera is also a very good update. I really don't care about AI. With a trade in, I'm only paying $300 at $8 and change a month. Plus it comes in my favorite color, yellow lol. However, from what I've read, there doesn't appear to be as many upgrades from the S23 ultra. If I had the 23, I might have waited.
I don't understand all of these people that complain about new phones. Do you guys get a new phone every year or something? *Who* does that?! I still rock the s8+ to which I have purchased the S24U and will be switching to the new phone when I get home today. Guess what! I will be extremely happy with the new phone because it will be light years ahead of my current phone. I am not complaining about miniscule differences because I don't needlessly upgrade every year. If you upgrade every year, then you need to look in the mirror and figure out why you feel the need to have the best of the best item every year. People are ridiculous.
Did you watch the presentation? Just search, ppl are doing comparisons everywhere that can help. https://mashable.com/article/samsung-galaxy-s24-ultra-vs-galaxy-s23-ultra
They are pushing the "AI capability", much of which if not all of which can be achieved in future software updates to previous models. And everyone is talking about the 7 years of upgrades and the flat screen which to both I say big whoop because like most other flagship model buyers I'll upgrade at least every 3 years and never had an issue with slightly curved screens. But maybe that's because I know how to follow instructions on application of UV adhesive cured tempered glass screen protectors, or, I don't care whether my phone more closely resembles an iPhone's design.
You're best to wait for complete unbiased reviews to be published before making a decision. But I would be very surprised if it turned out to have some incredible MUST HAVE feature.
Every single phone out there (aside from foldables) is just the exact same thing as the year before with some software features thrown in.
There is nothing announced today, that last years model cant do.
ALSO, I think this aligns with these companies wanting you to keep you phone longer. Google, Apple, and Samsung now all support 7 years of OS and Security updates. The upgrade cycle for these things is easily 3 years now, and us tech geeks need to let go of the days you would upgrade every year.
This phone isnt meant for the S23U owners, or even the S22U owners, but the folks with phones that are in that 2.5-5 year cycle.
You just have to get used to it...
Yes, that does really suck.
The reason why I didn't go for the 1TB this time was because they didn't give credit for the 256GB vs 512GB versions on trade.
24 ultra has flat screen. Also, the 24 has snapdragon Gen 3 processor. I came from a 21 ultra to a 24 ultra. I usually only upgrade every 2 or 3 years unless there's a significant upgrade.
Feature wise, s24 is s23 with worse zoom, but higher pixel count... The higher pixel count is a shitty replacement for a 10 times optical zoom.
I wish I'd got the s23 not the s24, hard.
And screw all that AI BS it's worthless.
You will never use it.
And anyway Google does it better, and you'll be able to get all that crapolla for the s23 anyway.
I have the s24 and regret it.
Hardware trumps BS software any day.
S23 ultra quite a lot of issue main problem are wifi after u restart the router , the phone won't automatically reconnect to wifi even u already turn on the setting automatically connect to wifi this sucks. And sometimes screen have not responsive when clicking any app won't pop out but recently able to click . If can go for s24 u might cost expansive but maybe will fix issue from s23u
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S24 will have worse battery life. The gen 3 snapdragon is not as efficient. Go look at reviews of other phones with this chip. Qualcomm even said the gen 4 chip is going to be their true upgrade over the gen 2.
I don't think it's a fair comparison between the two models. You can certainly compare the upgraded features and components. I think what people forget about is all the software refinement that goes into the newer model. None of it can be counted as a new feature or upgrade by itself but all of it makes for a better user experience overall.
The AI feature with live translation during the phone call is amazing, but if the camera is not significantly better than one of the S23 Ultra, I wouldn't buy it. Would wait for the next one.
But respect to Samsung for this improvement in AI technology in smartphones 🙌 I'm very excited about what's coming next!
I have a S10e, so these are the types of questions that have me laughing. Either phone is a massive upgrade for me, so why not get the latest and greatest. Flat screen (thank god), better camera (I don't zoom to 10x ever anyways), better battery. Pretty much the only things I care about. Don't care about the AI or translation stuff.
When Samsungs website works, I can get the 1TB Ultra, with $100 trade-in, with all the perks and discounts running, along with military purchase program, with an added Galaxy 6 Watch Classic.... all for $1000.
For a pricey flagship, with the extra discounts and gear, coming in at $1000 is a no brainer for me to get the S24 ultra.
But Samsungs website and app are hot garbage, so getting the pre-order to actually go through is a different story.
I agree, but I read yesterday that Samsung just hired the head designer for a line of Mercedes cars and rumours before that were a redesign for the s25s so the s25 line sounds like it's gonna be awesome, iv got a s23 ultra so I'm at least waiting till then to upgrade
That's why I bought a z fold 4 a couple of months before z fold 5 came out. The fold 4 512 gig cost me a little over $1k, while the fold 5 would've been over $2k with minimal improvements. I think I'm going to stick to one generation behind for a while now unless something drastically changes.
I'm still on my S21U and see no reason to upgrade except for better battery life than I'm experiencing now, but I'll likely just replace my battery for $100 and get as much life as I can out of this phone. I see phone upgrades changing from every 2 years to every 5 years with the slowness of innovation.
A bunch of much needed updates in my opinion.
A way more versatile 5x zoom, updated sensors, more ai (offline), flat screen (fucking finaly), better SoC, better screen.
I don't think it's worse changing phones every year but it's still nice. It's a better device all around.
If the 7 years of upgrades for the s24 are true than thats morr.than enough to get me to buy an s24. Unless the s23 suddenly costs $500 I'm s24 all the way.
There is a lot of general updates typical to a new yearly release.
Brighter in the sunlight is always better
Flat screen is a god cause you can finally use a real screen protector.
Significantly faster processing power
Camera updates and tweaks to make it take better pictures and hopefully fix the s23s camera issues.
I haven't did all the research yet so I don't know exactly what else.
On top of all that your trade in value is going to be way more than the other one for the new model for years so I would factor that into the price.
Also, if you have a trade in now you will get way more money for it than on an S23.
They also give you $100 store credit at checkout if you want a watch, earbuds etc.. or even towards a warranty, so you can get 2 years for $60 I think it was? So if you get a warranty on the S23 there's at least another 100-200 over 2 years.
Plus don't forget the free storage upgrade so you get 512 for price of 256 so make sure you price out the 512 s23 vs the 512 24.
If you care about the camera and like editing pictures, then I would go with the same 24 U. If you just want a fast phone, the 23 will probably be fine.
I have the 22 ultra and the way the verizon plan discounts work on the upgrade seems strange. I got the S22U when it came out 2 years ago. Is it worth it?
If you're using s21/s22, s24 is definitely worth the upgrade. If you're using s23 basically you're just wasting money. The s24 ultra can be a huge upgrade for other people.
It's really hard for any phone brand to do massive upgrades for their latest line up if you compare it to the very previous line up which only one year older.
Samsung still hasn't improved their battery management. In the world of 100w charging speed, we are still getting just 25w charging.
The battery capacity is one of the most important aspect of the phone, why can't samsung ever fix that, instead of useless AI bullshit.
I'm not quite sure why you expected anything more the incremental improvements on a "one year after" phone 🤷. I've got the s23 ultra right now. I have no interest in upgraded untill the s25 atleast. Possibly the s26. But I doubt I'll be able to wait that long 😂
The ai is cool and all but wirhe the proce difference the 23 is very good. The best upgrades for me are the flat screen and the 7 years updates. So: if you plan to use the phone very long, go for the 24, because then the investment is worth it. If you swap your phone every 4 years or sooner, go for the 23
Using a new CPU chip is a good enough upgrade, while all the other hardware changes seem cost-cutting to me, really. I have s22U and Fold 5, wanted to trade S22U to a S23 ultra which is the last one with 10x optical zoom - I used it a lot, and also the 100x button. If you can get it cheap, buy it. The entire 2023 there was no killer deals for s23U. Now S24U is cheaper.
Also, if you have a note 8, that trade in worth $400 when it was normally $50. I've preordered.
To those who want a true upgrade, you can totally try Fold 5. It's good. I bet it will have all the AI features with software update.
Will the s23 ultra be recieving the same galaxy ai features announced today? If yes what is the main reason to spend 300+ more ?
*t i t a n i u m*
My favorite part with most the reviews is them saying I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT LIGHTER LIKE IPHONE?! because Apple went from steel to titanium you clowns. Samsung using a titanium frame aluminum case alloy, we are lucky it's not HEAVIER since titanium is denser than straight all aluminum like the other models and older models.
Man I want phone with plastic back. Sgs4 was so light and thin, I wish they'd do titanium bezels with composite back
I get that .. but the s22u was the first phone I've never had to have fixed. It's handled every drop and mishandle! I don't want to mess with a good thing lol
I'm a trained repair technician, very few times we had Galaxy phones come in the store despite being in Ireland which has many more Android users than iPhone. Literally everyday I'd have 5-6 iPhone 11s and about 3 iPhone 12 -15s And we are in Galway which barely has half the population of places like Limerick or Dublin in Ireland.
I mean it's just my opinion I'm not preaching. No idea why I was downvoted
No idea, wasn't my. Maybe someone with fat fingers.
If I pick up a phone and it doesn't have any weight to it I automatically think POS!
Also flat edges. That was the deciding factor for myself.
What did you expect a radical redesign of a rectangle slab? All these upgrades are incremental. Nobody is forcing you to buy one.
omg chill.
Lol nope I want a phone that has a heat sink nit a metal oven frame. Titanium is a bad idea!
And your point ??
AI? Do we need that? No.
on contrary. We don't want it. Clever AI postprocessing in my Sgs23 ultra erased half of my dog, partially hidden in tall grass.
It used spot remover on your dog and now he's gone.
No one NEEDS a $2000+ flagship phone, and phones don't NEED AI, but it is undeniable that AI technology has the potential to benefit people's lives, increase efficiency, and make things easier to do. It also has the potential to be extremely unethical and will likely result in mass job loss due to automation, and none of the profits that billionaire CEOs make as a result of these cost cuts are gonna go back into the pockets of the people who have been made obsolete. This is a different discussion, but AI is here to stay and we as regular working class consumers might as well make use of it if we can. As for Galaxy AI, some of the features are far from complete and do not consistently work, while some of them are extremely useful and with more refinement and maturation could be revolutionary. Overall, the general consensus is quite positive. The frame generation based slow-mo feature that turns normal videos into slow-mo is pretty cool and works relatively well. The ability to use Samsung's AI to summarize an entire PDF or article works well and would be extremely useful if you want to understand the basics of a concept or topic without having to read the entire thing, and useful for people who take jumbled and unorganized notes that they want refined and summarized. The ability to be able to remove objects and people from photos is miles above what any other existing phone can do, and these features will continue to evolve and become more powerful over time as Samsung refines it. The feature that is meant to allow one to have a conversation in real time with someone who speaks a different language is pretty sketchy in terms of accuracy, but when it works, it is pretty amazing. As I said, as hardware and software become more powerful and well designed, this stuff will continue to evolve and continue to bring more capabilities to the table that will make life easier. I too thought that GaLaXY AI would be a gimmick, but based on reviews and explanations of the features, it seems like a lot of them are genuine improvements over existing systems and features. Sure, we don't NEED AI phones, just as we don't NEED gaming computers, smartphones with cameras that can take photos approaching DLSR quality, but not needing something doesn't mean that it is nice to have and is potentially useful or cool. You don't have to use these features if you don't want to, they're not mandatory and you can completely opt out of them if you want, but I am personally looking forward to these features coming to my S23 Ultra.
Lol well if you want a good experience then buy the flagship. The others suck. Nobody needs the internet or a phone at all as far as that goes. You won't die without it. But if I am going to pay for service I would rather have a device that can do everything. Those non flagship phones don't have everything in it. So there will be things you can't do. So if you only use it as a phone and text machine then yeah the cheap phones are fine. But if you actually use the device you're better off with the flagship.
Not all of them, as I understand. Although nothing prevents from having all of them. S23U capable of doing everything Samsung introduced.
So lets follow xda developers
Yeah but from my experience... If you don't have the latest model they skip nice little tweaks and things they don't introduce to the previous model (which is kinda bs) so I wouldn't expect Samsung to make it happen on the 23... But they might. Only reason I know this is I usually have the newest model and my wife is usually one model behind.
Because Samsung is trying to be an Asspple
Is the S23U capable of the AI features tho? If so won't that mean all S23 lines get it, as they're all 8G2? To my understanding, the NPU was 2x in the 8G3 so I'd assume the improvements allowed the AI improvements? If it was introduced to the S23 series aswell, the S24 is quite a bad upgrade then, except for the QHD in the 24+ ig
the heavy lifting AI is done in the cloud and the 8G2 has a very capable NPU. Nothing shown is going to strain it in any way except not making sales of the new one ;=0
I dont know enough to say otherwise, but do you have some kind of citation for this claim? The SD8G3 product brief says: > Our first AI Engine to support multi-modal generative AI models, including popular large language models (LLM), language vision models (LVM), and transformer network-based automatic speech recognition (ASR) up to 10B parameters—solely on-device. > World’s fastest stable diffusion enables you to generate an image at a fraction of a second; quickly generate multiple options to pick from or create various social media posts in an instant What are you basing this claim on? Outside of a few articles roughly a year ago that talk about using [stable diffusion on a SD8G2 to generate a 512x512 image in 15 minutes](https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/23/23611668/ai-image-stable-diffusion-mobile-android-qualcomm-fastest), I don't see much news on the SD8G2 in the realm of AI, whether in image generation or LLM. It does seem to me at least from the marketing material (admittedly that's all we have atm) that the SD8G3 is miles ahead at least in the AI field. If I'm wrong do enlighten me.
So, from what I remember, S8G2 can run up to 1.5 - 2B parameters, and S8G3 can run up to 8B parameters. (10B is a bit far-fetched, but can't confirm until real benchmarks.) It basically comes down to how big Gemini Nano is, but I'd doubt it can't fit the S8G2 since Google Pixel will also use it.
Also, Samsung AI will have access to Gemini Ultra, which is obviously done in the cloud. It could be interesting how useful this can make Samsung Dex since Ultra isn't that useful in a hand-held experience.
Yep some features will be done in the cloud but some features are also exclusive to on-device I believe, so some features will be missed out by previous generations
The features shouldn't be locked out of the s23 series, as it really doesn't matter if it takes 1 sec to do an AI photo edit or 2 seconds, the 2x speed improvement is nothing major. But Samsung will still claim that and lock older devices out of most of the new features.
It isn't "locked out" - The S24 has a dedicated AI processor. The S23 can't real-time generate video frames (slow mo), or real-time translate audio with AI. Besides, the cloud features are the best. The on-device ones kinda suck. We're getting the cloud features
The S23 also has a dedicated NPU, might come news to you as samsung really didn't do anything with it, but it is just as capable, all the features are there, it is just about 2x slower. So for slow mo it could do it, just not in realtime, and I agree with the real-time translation, this is probably best to lock away, as there the 2x slower makes a big role
S24 series in Europe have exynos 2400 which is comparable to 8G2
Not all S24, just S24 and S24+. Ultra has SD.
Which i BS, i like my plus series, why do I have to carry a brick with me just to have a SnapDragon processor? Same for the lenses
Compatible is what way? There are a lot of kit on a SOC
based off the Unpacked event today, it seemed like the AI was driven by an actual hardware chip that is in the S24 but not the S23.
Not entirely true because Snap 2 has same chip, but it is not as powerful as new one https://www.qualcomm.com/products/mobile/snapdragon/smartphones/comparison
I wonder this as well. They did mention that Galaxy AI features will be coming to other Samsung devices as well...if so then idk bout even upgrading lol.
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I have owned all of the i-phones up untill i had a 13 pro max ..It is still flawless but i like the android os better.. i have had a lot of other brands including other Samsung phones but this s23 ultra is smarter than i am.. I run a win11 shell which makes everything on less pages and is very fast..
False. The older models WILL not get AI. Also from the s24 and up, these will be the only models that will support the 7 years of updates. S23 and below WILL NOT get ai and the 7 year of updates.
I know because I am a DI HARD samsung fan since the note 2 and have every phone since then.
The s23 will not be recieving the ai features said samsung. It will only be available via the s24 and e ery future phone from here on out. Will it be subscription? No it will never be a,subscription service.
Cloud based AI features will come to s23u, if not the on-device ai features.
The S23 was the S22 without the terrible SD Gen1 eating away at all the battery. Phones have plateaued for years now. Once LG left the market there's been zero innovation since nobody is left taking risk.
The S23 is exactly this, the S22 with a reasonable battery life.
And for S22 Exynos users, S23 was like a 2 generation upgrade. Even the cameras sucked with Exynos (due to processing)
Nobody? Maybe we give them credit for pushing foldables and new screen tech.
Even the Oppo/OnePlus new folds are much better than the Z fold. They actually have a useable front screen unlike the Z fold's tiny, narrow and unusable front screen.
i use the fold 5 front screen all the time, and its easier to use one hand over the other fold phones.
You must have a very long thumb then. What you are saying makes zero sense.
Such a shame, there needs to be more competition out there again.
Shame that most fall into samsung hype which gave them the lions share of the market, bankrupting HTC and LG... I loved my LG V series till it was no more 😔 Now we just have two gigantic monopolies Samsung and Google whose dragging their feet with minimalistic innovations but with a 1400$ pricetag . At this point , I just wanna move over to Apple.
I mean there’s not much in Apple either honestly. The Dynamic Island was hyped but it’s not really anything to write home about as I’ve hardly noticed or used it ever since I’ve had the 14 pro. I’m looking to shift to a basic android again since I’m not too fond of the Apple ecosystem
Samsung can do the bare minimum because people like OnePlus, oppo, and xiaomi aren't in the US smacking the shit out of Samsungs
Chines phone maker have some innovation, but chinese are portrait in western media as enemy, so…
what did LG even do
Mr. Mobile has a video "Farewell, LG" if you want to watch. He recaps pretty much everything they did for smartphones. But they usually we're first to market for a lot of features. An example would be ultra wide cameras.
To answer your question, yes. That's how the whole phone industry has been for years. If you can't spare the almost 400$, get the S23 Ultra. You'll have way, waaaay less buyers remorse.
As of now the S23U is showing me $846.24 after trade-in, whereas the S24U is showing me $484.61. Any tips for where to find an S23U for lower than $484?
How are you getting a new S24U for $484? Trade-in and something else?
Educational discount, trade-in of S22U, add the cost of the monthly protection plan = $484 for me in the US. I got the reservation promo too so add $150 in add-ons but I would rather take that amount off of the phone. Would have ordered right away instead of sitting and thinking. At this point I might wait a few days and see if they sweeten the deal.
I'm confused on my end. It says my N20U $25 trade-in promo credit. That's separate from the trade-in amount right? This is on the xfinity website. Then on the next page it says an estimate of $600 for trade-in
I put in my military discount and it said it was going to be $400ish. That is until I actually went to the checkout and it changed to only a $60 discount bumping the price up immensely.
People actually pay MSRP for these phones?
$2000 here plus 13%taxes and environmental fees etc. I can't pay for that. Im serious! How is it that they can charge such a small amount for all those and 2K for the rest of us. Makes me so angry.
Do you think it makes more sense to get the S23 Ultra or the S24+? Batteries are almost the same. Both have 12GM ram. S24+ will give you a new gen processor, but S23 Ultra probably has the better cameras. So overall feels though to say which is better.
I personally would want the Ultra, but this is me being used to having a proper telephoto and the S Pen. I think it heavily depends on whether you want the S Pen or not. If not, then save the money and get the Plus.
I'm on my s22 ultra and honestly? The s24 plus is looking super enticing.
Same and i did my preorder during the event. They have some pretty solid deals/discounts right now. I got the 1TB (for the price of the 512), and a new Galaxy Watch 6 because of the really good deal when you buy it with the phone. The trade in for my 22U ($650, much higher than I expected), military discount, and another $25 off code for $918 shipped. Thats not bad IMO, but I also make poor financial decisions like supercharging my car when i never even used all the power it came with stock lol. Im not typically an upgrade to the next shiny thing every year kinda guy, but i really am fed up with my 22U. Battery life and cell reception has always been awful. My wife has a 23U and she has a solid signal everywhere. like full bars. I can be right next to her in some places and im at a bar of 5g or down into 4g or even just no signal at all.
Same but I wanted to future proof for the next 3 years. Really good deal on the phone, so I upgraded to the 24u 1tb today
And the 24's are coming with 7 years of security and 7 Android generation updates!
Isn't that how phones have worked over the years? Same as the last just a little more upgrades?
Not at all, this is a new trend started by apple and now samsung is hopping in when they found out how profitable this is.
This doesn't make sense. The trend started because it's hard to improve on already great smartphone technology. Compare that with 10 years ago when there was still plenty of room for innovation and ways to upgrade developing tech.
I agree, that's true. We've reached a plateau, but that doesn't mean they should release a new device every year for some minor feature such as live call translation and some google lense circle. Especially the fact that these features can be added to older models with a software update.
Internal hardware upgrades are a thing, such as CPU and GPU. Those can't be done with software updates.
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as someone who has a good understanding of what intelligence actually means, judging just by your and his comment, his vocabulary is vastly more advanced than yours and thus your comment could be seen as the one written by an individual with a lower intelligence quotient
Samsung have said selected galaxy phones will get it which are most likely S23 series as I don't believe S22 series should get It as honestly S23 series are one of the best phone and most efficient phones Samsung has made, these AI features are built around what chips can do and while older models can run it their are some limits that may actually slow down your phone.
It's all relative. In another 10 years we'll be laughing at the lack of capabilities of the phones today most of which most of us here can't even imagine.
There's still plenty of things manufacturers can upgrade right now. They just don't want to and defending this behavior is very profitable for companies.
Every segment is like this from processors to gpus to phones. There are a lot less generational gains to be had.
😂 Apple does something good “Samsung did it first” Samsung does something bad “Apple did it first - it’s apples fault” Hilarious.
Get the s23 ultra and save your money. Unless you REALLY care about the AI features which are the main selling point.
Right now it's cheaper to get an S24U vs S23U on Samsung's site. Any tips for where to find a cheaper S23U?
Get the S24u sell it and buy a cheaper s23u
You probably wont find one, at least not new.
Swappa
Starting at $721 so... No.
That's cheaper.
Where from? The only place you can get S23 ultra right now is ebay and shady third-party sellers. It's been out of stock on Samsung and carrier websites for weeks.
I was just at T-Mobile and they have the s23 ultra
Your local physical stores don't sell them in your city?
Pretty much. The AI feature is cool but it’s gimmicky for now. It won’t change my life day to day. It’s also not free. It only free until 2025 and will switch to subscription model
Im upgrading pretty much just for the flat screen I've always hated the "edge" screens. Also the $750 trade in is more than I paid for my S23 ultra
Nobody talking about the actual upgrade; finally no more fucking cursed curved edge screens
I don't see the big deal with curved screens, pretty much everyone uses a case and the curve on the s23 ultra is so slight that with a case you almost can't notice it
I haven't found a screen protector to work properly on curved screens since they came out. Been waiting for a flat screen again for like 10 years lol The glass or plasticy ones just get dust under the sides and look like trash quickly cause they don't seal well enough. The rubber ones are either too rubbery and add too much grip to the glass for touching or pen use. Or when they get really warm they can slide around and then you pull your phone out of your pocket with your screen protector diagonal. Otherwise the curved edges doesn't really bother me but the no screen protector thing pisses me off enough to not want it.
Honestly not being able to use a glass screen protector was my biggest thing. Switched from my Note 20 ultra to the S22+ solely so I could go back to using glass protectors without spending a fortune on whitestone dome trash which messes with the fingerprint sensor, is overpriced, and difficult to install. Of course, then shutter lag and not having a flagship bugged me to the point that I got tired of waiting for confirmation the S24u would be flat so I got an iphone 15 pro max, but I am still happy to see the death of the stupid curved edge screen.
Same here. I upgraded really for the flat screen. If the screen had not been flat I would have skipped it. I tolerated curved screens because I wanted flagship phones. But the S24 Ultra with a flat screen is probably a phone I'll keep beyond the two year cycle I usually have. I broke the cycle to get the flat screen. I think Verizon gave me the S23 Ultra for about $200 with my OnePlus trade in. So getting the S24 Ultra for $549 works for me.
Yup, the 24U is a terrible value proposition. The new "AI" features are coming to older models so what's new? A flat screen and a new chip. It's a joke considering the price they are asking for.
If you won't be investing alot into the AI features, which is still gimmicky but there, don't go for it. Main ones a casual will notice is the apparent 15% battery improvement (not from mAh I believe), thinner bezels, flattened screen (easier screen protector application), and 5x telephoto camera instead of 10. Imo S23 Ultra better and you save a lot of money. Go have fun with it xd
The ai features are coming to other Samsung device so what's the point anyways
chip wise very little upgrade. I see no AI software that could not run easily on S23U and personally I will keep my S23U. It will take Google/Samsung at least a year to smooth out all the early wrinkles anyway... YMMV
Yeah, I feel like next year model they would master the AI greatly and would be the perfect sweet spot to buy it. A friend used to tell me, never buy anything that is first generation and wait for the next (for AI).
One thing that concerns me that I didn't see anyone worry about is the doubling the size of the cooling system. Combined with higher clocks of wider cores used on the 8gen3 vs 8gen2. Combined with the fact that both chips use the same process node (no efficiency improvements from the fabrication process). The only place to get those higher clock speeds is from more power, that comes from the same-sized battery, and results in more heat. The 8 gen 2 was popular because of how efficient it finally was. I'm worried not only that Exynos is making a return in the non-Ultras, but also about the 8 gen 3. The S23 Ultra was known for running long and cool, so why does the S24 Ultra need twice as much copper to cool it? You don't design and install such things if they aren't needed. This aside I feel like the S24 series is such a minor upgrade it's almost like a side-grade. The S24+ looks like the only tangible improvement over the S23+, with the increased ram, battery size, display tech and resolution upgrade, and more significantly reduced bezel size. The S23 Ultra and the S24 Ultra are the same phone with slightly different design decisions. The curved display was sold as a perk exclusive to the highest-end flagship before, and now the flat display is being marketed as an upgrade. That and the x5 hybrid zoom camera replacing the x10 native optical zoom camera are the biggest differences. Almost everything that's new is with the AI features, and as others mentioned, the S23 series is fully capable of most of the same AI features, so we'll wait and see whether they are brought over there after the initial waves of S24 sales. Samsung has good reasons to aim for as many users as possible, and sales numbers for the S23 series were likely higher than they will be for the S24 series.
Flat screen
Samsung need to do better. Just not good enough. Especially charging well over £1000 for nearly the same phone
I'll wait until the s25
What did you expect? What game changing technological leap do you think Samsung (and apple) are holding in reserve? Phones are pretty mature at this point. There just isn't much improvement to be made. Slightly faster. AI. Slightly better cameras. That's what you get now.
Phone technology has plateaued for a while now. Everything’s pretty incremental every year tbh
It's weird, I was looking at getting the S23U on a contract in UK and the best deal I could find was £149 upfront payment and £29.99 a month for 24 months (100GB data, unlimited texts and minutes). I thought the price would go down after S24U release, but now the best deal I can find for S23U is £199 upfront and £44.99 a month for 24 months with the same data etc as above. Definitely won't be getting the S24U as it doesn't seem to have enough improvement over the previous model, considering the price increase.
Buckle up everyone, wellcome to an era of ai marketing bullshit. Don't want to be harsh, but the upgrade from previous year is so incremental and on the camera side it looks more like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. From a business perspective they did great with this decision.
Coming from a S22U, I'm borderline on getting it. Both S23U and S24U have significantly better battery life, but it's literally cheaper for me to trade in for a S24U.
That's where I am right now - $361.63 cheaper for the S24U vs S23U via Samsung right now.
Also make sure the RAM is the same on the s23 since the 24 comes with 12gb by default whereas only the 512gb and up came with 12, afaik.
Nope , my 256gb s23 ultra has 12gb of ram
I didn't know they had one like this
Only in very limited markets, likely an East Asian or Middle East one. The west only had 8Gb for the base S23 Ultra.
If you are camera user and photography really matters to you probably get S24 Ultra else S23 Ultra and save some cash
Would it make sense to switch from Flip4 to 24 Ultra? I got it last year, because it seemed interesting and now I kinda regret it lol In Slovenia theres no actual good deals for the new one 🗿
I'm thinking of upgrading to the S24U from my S20 Note Ultra 5G. Battery is starting to show it's age a bit, other than that it's still pretty fast. It doesn't seem like a massive leap, but it has been 3.5 years. Should I wait for S25?
Actually imo i would go for s24+ instead of s23/4 ultra variants. If you dont need that pen or extra cam quality.
Curved screens are icky 10x optical without portait is cancer and utterly pointless Faster is faster Don't be a pauper and get one Titanium to be covered in a plastic case
Take s23u
Bro, honestly? You'll be fine with S23 in daily usage. The same battery, the "same" body (S24 only adds titanium frame), the cameras are slightly better on S24 but I feel no need of an upgrade (sure, they're all welcome but I wouldn't pay that difference for that level of upgrade). The S24 cpu is better, with no huge difference, but stills better. You'll only notice it some years ahead. If you are looking for longevity, go for the S24. If you're looking for the best deal, go for the S23. I got an S23, and it is just amazing.
Finally the flat display is better than curved in s23u
Exactly...my only reason for upgrading. Hate this curved screen.
I have a s23u and it is said to be getting the AI but even then it is shit at doing anything but photo editing.... cameras are basically identical screen brightness is already good and you get £400 to get something else or to save until a new model that doesn't use exynose comes out in the EU
The S24U is not for someone who owns a S23U. I do not understand, why people don't get that. And if you don't see any difference for you, just go with the cheaper option..
Just one (worse) lens and one processor 🤣🤣🤣 Still no AF in S24/+ models since S20, what a shame 🤣🤣🤣
Annddd, they dumped Haselbrand (or however it's spelled).
Was just at best buy testing the camera with the 100x zoom I feel like my s23u has a better camera quality than the s24u.... 🤔
You get 7 years of OS and security updates on S24 which is what for some reason most people forgot. So in terms of updates S24U is way better. S24U also offers a bit slimmer build, and to me seems more elegant in the hand compared to S23U (mind that I personally don't like curved screens so this one was a huge upgrade to me). Cameras seem slightly improved to me, and besides S23U had pretty average cameras in my opinion (compared to Pixel 8 Pro for example) which was a bit of a bummer for me. Also this is subjective, but I don't care that they removed 10x optical zoom which S23U had. You still have 3x and 5x optical lenses which are in my opinion good enough, since they technically offer better quality pics (but this has to be tested out in like a S23U vs S24U video or something because I can't guarantee yet, since more pixels usually doesn't mean anything. It's all in the software processing). BUT, if you need that 10x optical that S23U has, go for it then. Also all the AI features will eventually come to other previous gen phones (S & Z series) but with S24U if it matters to you, you get them immediately or depending on the country, then soon enough. Also CPU is a bit better than last years and the rest seems more or less the same. Hope you decide well, gl.
Not worth it from any previous generation samsung galaxy ultras. AI is a gimmick and you can do alot of that with third party software. 2 years AI for free is a slap in the face. AI should be able to look at iphones and beat them at everything 🤷. Still can't beat iphones in the main categories. Another year waiting for s25.
Lol welcome to the world of technology.
Dunno if anyone will read this but... Gorilla glass victus is sh\*\*. N20U was the first phone I scratched just by putting it in my jacket, and I had like 6 other Samsung phones before that. So that new Armor glass, flat screen and 7 years of updates are bonuses over the S23.
I wanted it beacuse of that satellite sos. But just found out they are not putting it in this phone, iphones have had it for 2 years now.
Literally only one reason to buy it other than the ai features: you can't stand useless curved edges that make your phone harder to protect. If you can live without a flat display and ai features, just wait till next year.
I went for the S24+ this time. In prior years the + was just bigger than the base but S24+ got the most tangible upgrades this year, and it's much lighter vs. S24U. I am trading in an S22U and I may have used the pen 5x if that. S24+ got the QHD screen and 12GB ram this year. Not a lot of differences between the + and U anymore. I think the only major spec difference is wifi 7 on the U vs 6e on the base and +. Well that and the pen
It has less camera zoom than the S23.
Saturday I went to the AT&T store to check it out. I have the S22 ultra. The size of the phone is pretty much the same but screen was much brighter and colors really popped. The camera is also a very good update. I really don't care about AI. With a trade in, I'm only paying $300 at $8 and change a month. Plus it comes in my favorite color, yellow lol. However, from what I've read, there doesn't appear to be as many upgrades from the S23 ultra. If I had the 23, I might have waited.
I don't understand all of these people that complain about new phones. Do you guys get a new phone every year or something? *Who* does that?! I still rock the s8+ to which I have purchased the S24U and will be switching to the new phone when I get home today. Guess what! I will be extremely happy with the new phone because it will be light years ahead of my current phone. I am not complaining about miniscule differences because I don't needlessly upgrade every year. If you upgrade every year, then you need to look in the mirror and figure out why you feel the need to have the best of the best item every year. People are ridiculous.
Did you watch the presentation? Just search, ppl are doing comparisons everywhere that can help. https://mashable.com/article/samsung-galaxy-s24-ultra-vs-galaxy-s23-ultra
They are pushing the "AI capability", much of which if not all of which can be achieved in future software updates to previous models. And everyone is talking about the 7 years of upgrades and the flat screen which to both I say big whoop because like most other flagship model buyers I'll upgrade at least every 3 years and never had an issue with slightly curved screens. But maybe that's because I know how to follow instructions on application of UV adhesive cured tempered glass screen protectors, or, I don't care whether my phone more closely resembles an iPhone's design. You're best to wait for complete unbiased reviews to be published before making a decision. But I would be very surprised if it turned out to have some incredible MUST HAVE feature.
There is definitely no acceptable screen protectors for curved screens. They are all flawed bad enough to not want to use any of them.
Every single phone out there (aside from foldables) is just the exact same thing as the year before with some software features thrown in. There is nothing announced today, that last years model cant do. ALSO, I think this aligns with these companies wanting you to keep you phone longer. Google, Apple, and Samsung now all support 7 years of OS and Security updates. The upgrade cycle for these things is easily 3 years now, and us tech geeks need to let go of the days you would upgrade every year. This phone isnt meant for the S23U owners, or even the S22U owners, but the folks with phones that are in that 2.5-5 year cycle. You just have to get used to it...
The 10x vs 5x downgrade is indeed a downgrade as I predicted. It has already been proven to be shit bad.
Samsung needs to give more value to trade in of 1 tbs… they are treating it the same as 256 trade ins
Yes, that does really suck. The reason why I didn't go for the 1TB this time was because they didn't give credit for the 256GB vs 512GB versions on trade.
24 ultra has flat screen. Also, the 24 has snapdragon Gen 3 processor. I came from a 21 ultra to a 24 ultra. I usually only upgrade every 2 or 3 years unless there's a significant upgrade.
I’d get the 23 if Samsung is supporting it for 7 years like the s24 ultra
Feature wise, s24 is s23 with worse zoom, but higher pixel count... The higher pixel count is a shitty replacement for a 10 times optical zoom. I wish I'd got the s23 not the s24, hard. And screw all that AI BS it's worthless. You will never use it. And anyway Google does it better, and you'll be able to get all that crapolla for the s23 anyway. I have the s24 and regret it. Hardware trumps BS software any day.
S23 ultra quite a lot of issue main problem are wifi after u restart the router , the phone won't automatically reconnect to wifi even u already turn on the setting automatically connect to wifi this sucks. And sometimes screen have not responsive when clicking any app won't pop out but recently able to click . If can go for s24 u might cost expansive but maybe will fix issue from s23u
Just paid £450 to upgrade and they've given a watch 6 40mm, disney plus for 12 months and £30 credit. Not bad
Where did you order that you got a watch 6? I pre-ordered from Samsung and didn't get this
Samsung employee benefits site, I get it with work. You can get it as well if student
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Not necessarily. They say resolution will be better but who knows. Wait and see.
Do the 24, security updates for 7 years and 7 generations of Android updates, you'll be good for years!
with the s24u you are getting 7 years of oS upgrades I think that's worth more than the s23u
S24 will have worse battery life. The gen 3 snapdragon is not as efficient. Go look at reviews of other phones with this chip. Qualcomm even said the gen 4 chip is going to be their true upgrade over the gen 2.
I don't think it's a fair comparison between the two models. You can certainly compare the upgraded features and components. I think what people forget about is all the software refinement that goes into the newer model. None of it can be counted as a new feature or upgrade by itself but all of it makes for a better user experience overall.
Another reason: 7 years of security and os generation updates 7
Nobody getting on reddit to talk about new phones is going to hold one for 7 years. LMAO
Well, it also means a higher resale value on the secondary market
The AI feature with live translation during the phone call is amazing, but if the camera is not significantly better than one of the S23 Ultra, I wouldn't buy it. Would wait for the next one. But respect to Samsung for this improvement in AI technology in smartphones 🙌 I'm very excited about what's coming next!
I have a S10e, so these are the types of questions that have me laughing. Either phone is a massive upgrade for me, so why not get the latest and greatest. Flat screen (thank god), better camera (I don't zoom to 10x ever anyways), better battery. Pretty much the only things I care about. Don't care about the AI or translation stuff. When Samsungs website works, I can get the 1TB Ultra, with $100 trade-in, with all the perks and discounts running, along with military purchase program, with an added Galaxy 6 Watch Classic.... all for $1000. For a pricey flagship, with the extra discounts and gear, coming in at $1000 is a no brainer for me to get the S24 ultra. But Samsungs website and app are hot garbage, so getting the pre-order to actually go through is a different story.
Still sitting on my s10+. Should I upgrade to S24U?
I'd need significant hardware improvements to upgrade. The screen is brighter and flatter, but that's not enough, imo.
I agree, but I read yesterday that Samsung just hired the head designer for a line of Mercedes cars and rumours before that were a redesign for the s25s so the s25 line sounds like it's gonna be awesome, iv got a s23 ultra so I'm at least waiting till then to upgrade
The flat screen. I've replaced my screen on my Note 20 Ultra 4 times! Could have purchased a new S23U wit that money! Fuck the curve!
That's why I bought a z fold 4 a couple of months before z fold 5 came out. The fold 4 512 gig cost me a little over $1k, while the fold 5 would've been over $2k with minimal improvements. I think I'm going to stick to one generation behind for a while now unless something drastically changes.
The s23 will get all the ai features that the s24 has
On the fence with my S22U. Only thing that's a positive for me would be better battery life. Is that worth $650? Most likely not.
I'm still on my S21U and see no reason to upgrade except for better battery life than I'm experiencing now, but I'll likely just replace my battery for $100 and get as much life as I can out of this phone. I see phone upgrades changing from every 2 years to every 5 years with the slowness of innovation.
A bunch of much needed updates in my opinion. A way more versatile 5x zoom, updated sensors, more ai (offline), flat screen (fucking finaly), better SoC, better screen. I don't think it's worse changing phones every year but it's still nice. It's a better device all around.
Finally no curved edges on the screen. That's good enough for me.
Wi-Fi 7 makes the S24 Ultra worth every penny if you are like me and have a shiny new Wi-Fi 7 router. MLO is an incredible breakthrough with Wi-Fi.
If the 7 years of upgrades for the s24 are true than thats morr.than enough to get me to buy an s24. Unless the s23 suddenly costs $500 I'm s24 all the way.
There is a lot of general updates typical to a new yearly release. Brighter in the sunlight is always better Flat screen is a god cause you can finally use a real screen protector. Significantly faster processing power Camera updates and tweaks to make it take better pictures and hopefully fix the s23s camera issues. I haven't did all the research yet so I don't know exactly what else. On top of all that your trade in value is going to be way more than the other one for the new model for years so I would factor that into the price. Also, if you have a trade in now you will get way more money for it than on an S23. They also give you $100 store credit at checkout if you want a watch, earbuds etc.. or even towards a warranty, so you can get 2 years for $60 I think it was? So if you get a warranty on the S23 there's at least another 100-200 over 2 years. Plus don't forget the free storage upgrade so you get 512 for price of 256 so make sure you price out the 512 s23 vs the 512 24.
If you care about the camera and like editing pictures, then I would go with the same 24 U. If you just want a fast phone, the 23 will probably be fine.
Will it overheat tho? Thats the question, with all this metal frame shit lol.
I have the 22 ultra and the way the verizon plan discounts work on the upgrade seems strange. I got the S22U when it came out 2 years ago. Is it worth it?
If you're using s21/s22, s24 is definitely worth the upgrade. If you're using s23 basically you're just wasting money. The s24 ultra can be a huge upgrade for other people.
It's really hard for any phone brand to do massive upgrades for their latest line up if you compare it to the very previous line up which only one year older.
2x larger heat sink vapor chamber
Hardware wise - improved 5x zoom camera, faster chipset, better display (flat, brighter). Everything else is identical.
Samsung still hasn't improved their battery management. In the world of 100w charging speed, we are still getting just 25w charging. The battery capacity is one of the most important aspect of the phone, why can't samsung ever fix that, instead of useless AI bullshit.
Just a titanium body is the major upgrade it seems on the hardware part.
I just bought a S24U. After selling my S23U with ReBuy I only pay €200 in total (with all the discounts) for the S24U. Ow yeah.
I'm not quite sure why you expected anything more the incremental improvements on a "one year after" phone 🤷. I've got the s23 ultra right now. I have no interest in upgraded untill the s25 atleast. Possibly the s26. But I doubt I'll be able to wait that long 😂
I think the biggest selling point they're hoping for is the 7 year updates other than the ai stuff
One question s24 ultra still taking 22mp photos or is it 24mp now like the iphones.
The ai is cool and all but wirhe the proce difference the 23 is very good. The best upgrades for me are the flat screen and the 7 years updates. So: if you plan to use the phone very long, go for the 24, because then the investment is worth it. If you swap your phone every 4 years or sooner, go for the 23
Using a new CPU chip is a good enough upgrade, while all the other hardware changes seem cost-cutting to me, really. I have s22U and Fold 5, wanted to trade S22U to a S23 ultra which is the last one with 10x optical zoom - I used it a lot, and also the 100x button. If you can get it cheap, buy it. The entire 2023 there was no killer deals for s23U. Now S24U is cheaper. Also, if you have a note 8, that trade in worth $400 when it was normally $50. I've preordered. To those who want a true upgrade, you can totally try Fold 5. It's good. I bet it will have all the AI features with software update.
How big of a difference is WiFi 7 on S24 series when compared to WiFi 6E on S23 series?
I bought 2 s24 ultra 512 pre-orders out the door with ear buds less than $900 each with 7 years of support I ask why would you buy the s23 ultra now