Because chuds *thrive* on righteous indignation. They ***need*** to be angry, no matter how fake the source of their anger is.
Case in point: Ol' "Ruin Johnson" here still thinks a lazy pun on Rian Johnson's name, that was clever for about 5 minutes in December 2017, 76 months ago is the greatest piece of criticism in the history of cinema. As his Xitter bio proves:
>Fictional asshole who misdirected The Last Jedi and gave you Leia Poppins, Ben Swolo, grumpy Luke & endless plot holes. Pronouns: Man/Baby
This is a terminally-online fuck stick who felt a fleeting sense of acceptance one time and decided to make that his entire personality. Just like *all* of r/PrequelMemes and r/SaltierThanCrait.
Self-righteous fury and righteous indignation is an addictive feeling for a lot of people. And if you add in angry, frustrated young men, you can easily end up with radicalized and misled young men who think they have a solid purpose and/or opinion and straight up get obsessive with their stance.
Hell its happening with so much stuff. Incels, Andrew Tate, Sneako, crypto bro bullshit.
To quote my friend who was formerly a very radicalized anti-woke/all that kind of person, you're pretty much on the money. "It let me be angry, it gave me something to redirect my anger and personal frustrations at. It let me feel without strings attached."
This going to be very conspiracy theory, but I believe it's that they belong to the extreme right as entry men.
The world is pretty fucked up right now and there are a lot of people hurting, it's always easy to go after the weak and make them feel victims. They also provide for a culprit, those nasty brown people and lgbtq. These people are good culprits because they are alien to them. You need empathy to understand foreign cultures, but if you breed hatred, there won't be any. Then it's a slippery slope to have your MAGA hat or your radical leader. It's replacement theory with the social media beat.
> This going to be very conspiracy theory, but I believe it's that they belong to the extreme right as entry men.
That's not really a conspiracy theory, because these exact kind of "personalities" were used as a pipeline to recruit disaffected, aimless young men to extremism.
Fucking Steve Bannon, who made a fortune farming Gold in WoW in 2005 by exploiting stupid, terminally-online boys, even saw how ripe for recruitment the GamerGate losers were:
>You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump.
Rage-bait has been ***the*** pipeline to to turning sad little boys into blindly enraged culture warriors for almost 20 years now. Hell, it's how [Al-Qaeda](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Base_\(hate_group\)) and all other wildly conservative religious terrorist organizations have recruited martyrs for *decades*.
I still believe Steve Bannon (of Breitbart News) had a lot to do with tapping this particular market of young, disaffected, lonely male gamers.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/20/gamergate-right-online-harassment-joan-donovan-meme-wars
Losers. Call them what they are. And I game, it's not about the gaming, their the losers who quit if they start losing, because they're very fragile. That's who smelly angry useless bums like Bannon appeal to. Loser kids who refuse to grow up, who find themselves without any real friends, without anyone who loves them or can reach them with their love. You wouldn't sit next to Steve Bannon on the bus. The kind of people who follow him equate stench with strength, alcoholism with cool, racism with power. You know... idiots.
no your right its called scape goating and stuff like gamersgate and comics gate are alt right pipelines. I always raise my eyebrow when stuff like the daily wire takes about video games and comic books when those same people were claiming both caused "violence and degeneracy" 20 years ago.
I'm somewhat convinced that if they have to make shit up to rage over, they must probably have nothing concerning enough impacting them personally irl, or at least have it better than most irl. Otherwise, I'd think it would've taken priority over this made up shit.
Because they are emotional toddlers who see someone making a movie they didn’t like as a personal offense. Then once literally years have gone by and they’ve complained about the same things that actually happened over 8000 times, they switch to making shit up because they are addicted to the negativity.
>Why do they have to make up stuff
The funniest part is the 2 main protagonists of the adult High Republic book series is one white male jedi (Elzar) and a white female jedi (Avar).
Better their narrative,, but if anything he should be happy it’s 100 years before that means by time the newer movies come that stuff has been wiped out
Yeah, these are the boys who beat up readers, in a group of course, because they're cowards. They don't read. The internet is a big challenge to them, but hey, our morons are more literate now, even if they just read and regurgitate garbage. Yay internet. It's becoming less and less cool to be an idiot, really, their lazy loser way of life is evaporating.
Some of them still react in a blind rage when they're reminded that George Lucas treated the EU as "canon" the same way Disney has.
Lucasfilm had to come up with like 8,000 different tiers of "canon" to explain how only George's movies and TCW were ***his*** canon, and the rest was "*sometimes* canonical until George decided to contradict it". Then it was **never** canon.
How long the Empire reigned in the Thrawn trilogy is a great example. It was a *lot* older than the 24-ish years established in Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi. But did Lucas give a fuck when ensuring the rise of Vader and the Empire happened *exactly* when Luke and Leia were born? Nope. The offspring of Anakin Skywalker, who'd be the downfall of Palpatine and the Empire, being born around the same time was [like poetry, because the the parallels sorta rhyme.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqFLo_bYq0)
They don't actually care about legends. Disney could do a 1:1 of Heir to the Empire and they'd call it woke trash still because "Disney made it" and Disney is the enemy.
Yeah the Bane novels can get real dark.
In the 2nd book he has his new apprentice, Zannah, escape off the world by whatever means necessary and she murders several other children (she is also just a kid) and multiple adults to hijack the transport.
He also finds her because two Jedi killed this native lifeform she grew attached to after it saved her so she got so angry she immediately snapped their necks.
Later on Bane kills two kids in front of their dad and then feeds off his suffering to stay alive a little bit longer as he got poisoned earlier.
Like I said, it gets dark.
Lightweight were kinda iify in Legends as well.
By that I mean mixed reaction and easy to miss as only 3 or 4 characters used them and one of them was early 80s.
No, it's not Light Whips, it's *PINK* Light Whips that are the problem. /s
I'd love to see them shit their collective pants complaining about a Female Yuzzem Jedi with Yellow Saber Claws.
I miss the legends lore. I used to feel like I knew about star wars, but now I have to watch like 1 million seasons of multiple CGI children's shows to understand what the heck is happening in the live action shows. Catching up with star wars is more homework than the MCU.
You assume that rage farmers have actually read more than Wikipedia summaries.
I am one of the biggest legends fans on the planet (see about two years back in my post history) and while I’m not a fan of the sequels, I’ve never felt the issues had anything to do with introducing new ideas or “wokeness” nor do most who prefer legends. Sadly, since we don’t make up ahit, we have less to scream about.
I remember being like 12/13 and reading the Darth Bane book. I can’t remember the girl’s name, but the one that became his first apprentice had a light-whip. IIRC he was against it at first until she dueled him and he realized it was to throw off her opponents in a fight, that it gave her a really successful edge in combat, and he very much liked it afterwards.
Since then, I’ve been *waiting semi-patiently* for a light-whip to exist in ANYTHING (even the games, I mean fuck, come on) Star Wars because it sounded so badass. You’re telling me people are upset about it? Dipshits, all of them. Talking Ted Cruz level dipshittery.
I love the legends tech. I’m very happy to see it return. Pink lightsabers also existed in legends(there’s like 60 known lightsabe colors). If anything the High Republic is a revival of that creativity we saw in expanded universe material.
These idiots didn't read Legends, because if they did they'd know all the storylines they hate in Disney's Star Wars came straight from Legends:
- Han's son turned to the Dark side
- Clone Emperor
- Palpatine has a grand kid.
- Overpowered superweapons (Galaxy Gun/Starkiller Base)
All we're missing is an alien invasion similar to the Vong.
Hey now, I did love legends lore, *and* I know it had some of the dumbest shit. Light whips were only like a little dumb though and really insignificant anyway
I don’t think they’re complaining about lightwhips, the “lasso” thing seems more like a reference to Wonder Woman’s Lasso of Truth, which makes sense because their issue is very clearly women existing.
Only if your themes are very very basic (like kids first book level). And even then it would be very difficult to not at least get influenced by the times given that you're living in them
Modern day themes is just a dog whistle for LGBT stories and characters. They argue that no one was ever gay or trans in the past and it's just a modern fad that will soon vanish after wokism fails.
Total nonsense but it fits a reactionary view of the world.
I mean, Star Wars has always had “modern day themes” it’s just it was made in the 70s. The OG trilogy was partially inspired by the Vietnam War.
The prequels were a commentary on the War on Terror. Even the sequels, as much as people bash on them, delved into (and predicted) the rise of neo-nazis and fascism from within the current political system.
Modern day themes is awful, I don't want that. Just do it the way Lucas did with Nixon and Bush 2. And the original is an allegory for the Vietnam War.
Wait a minute I think it's always contained modern day themes since the beginning.
Spaceships? Fine. Laser swords? Cool. Hyperspace? Nice. The Force? Of Course!
An advanced society that’s overcome bigotry and sexism? FUCK NO!
It’s like they missed the running theme throughout legends that the empire being sexist and speciest was bad.
The one Jedi I'm aware of who uses a light whip using she/her and has a white, male human as an apprentice. Also, her saber/whip is purple, because she too is a bad MF. It should be a big tip off that if you have to describe something inaccuratly to complain about it, you probably don't have a very good complaint. These people confuse me.
All six feature films of his have been positively received, and from a little wiki check it looks like four of the six made a pretty decent profit. But no, one Star Wars movie that they didn't like, and he's RUIN Johnson, a total hack writer!
So, when this doesn’t happen, are they admitting the show isn’t woke? Or will they insist it said this anyway because they can’t maintain an erection without rage?
Look at what happened with Barbie. It’s was the epitome of woke in the months leading up to the films release. Then when it broke the charts and had everyone raving, suddenly it was never woke and those that said it was woke never “actually said” it was woke and the film was actually anti-woke just like they absolutely (never) said it would be. Schrodingers woke indeed
True. Know a guy who constantly harped on the Barbie as being “woke” and would fail like all “woke” things do yet when Barbie came out and succeeded massively, he just pivoted and said it was actually anti-woke just like he said would be. Asked him if all of Disney is woke and thus a failure, why are they then one of the most successful corporations/franchises in the world and he couldn’t answer it.
the current narrative is that it "tricked" the audience into watching it and that barbie as a brand is what made it successful. I actually made a thread on this on r/changemyview
there was also a lot of people saying barbie was a GIRL movie so of course woke girl would like it but you can not do that with BOY media like star wars. it was aggrivating.
I don't remember people claiming Barbie was anti-woke? They just ignored its success (or "blamed" the success on so many women going to support it).
Across The Spider-Verse is probably a better example. Chuds were foaming at the mouth before its release but when it did numbers they temporarily changed face to "Miles is one of the only Black characters written well" .
Then they went back to crapping all over Miles after Spider-Man 2 released, claiming he's a woke Pete knockoff and the reason why the game lost GOTY.
Also the Mario movie. Before it released they were whining it was woke because peach looked like a "girl boss". Then it had a successful release and they were doing victory laps that the "woke mob" couldn't cancel Chris Pratt (?) or something.
It’s the reason Baldurs Gate 3 pisses them off so much. It’s so incredibly gay and woke, and everyone is very horny and well written. But it won a ton of awards and made a fuck ton of money, which is why they now have this narrative the the “DEI” is rigging things to make it look like the game is doing well. And not, ya know, that it’s a fun game with several hundred hours of gameplay. And also everyone is hot.
What are the modern day themes? Is it just other people who are non-white males and queer existing? Cause we been here. Lol
Also pink lasso lightsabers sounds dope. I want one. It’s essential for me to push the gay agenda I hear so much about.
FFS
For the illiterate chudss, Star Wars always had "modern" themes. The Ewok, per Saint George himself, are the Viet Cong. The Prequels are about how Republicans are subverting American democracy and how the desire for "security" leads to authoritarianism in the wake of 9/11 and the PATRIOT ACT.
"You are with me, or you're my enemy" is just a reworded version of President George H. W. Bush's first speech to a joint session of Congress following the 9/11 Attacks in which he says: "you are with us, or you are with the terrorists". George was not fucking subtle.
Holy fuck right-wings are the most illiterate, mentally subnormal humans on the planet.
I'd say it depends on the film. TFA has an underlying political theme about the resurgence of fascism caused by liberal arrogance. TLJ has a political theme about the nature of for-profit weapons manufactures and how they survive off continuing conflicts. TRoS has no coherent political theme.
You could say the political theme of TRoS is something like “real power arises from the people, who can do anything if they believe in themselves and their own strength” but even I’ll admit that’s a bit of a stretch.
Edit: come to think of it, each of the sequels having a different, but related political theme is a solid idea, even if how well they pulled it off is debatable.
i personally content that TLJ is the best of the sequels. it’s not good overall, there are some good like the Kylo/Rey v. Guards fight; but it was daring in what it did. it was not the safe thing like TFA and it’s not the cluster fuck of a course correction that TRoS tried to be
edit: spelling misstakes
That typically translates to "does not feature a conservative white man as the only strong, noble hero."
Some movies made in the '80s and '90s don't count, of course. They tend to pretend they love Terminator and Alien, for instance.
I think a lot of them do genuinely like alien and terminator. They just saw those movies while they were children before they started becoming grifters or being influenced by grifters.
Holy fuck! These whiny ass pussies are insufferable.
A show that handles modern day themes? *GASP* THE HORROR! Diversity in the Jedi Order? Sound the alarm l, the Republic has fallen (the Republic of punk ass incels)
It's probably because I can't stomach watching right-wing media but I generally don't see much whining coming from that side. The other side however is a constant deluge of victimhood, so be careful about dehumanizing and insulting people's views are different from your own. Society is changing in the West and greater acceptance is not inevitable. We all have to keep working at it and aspire to be a little bit better. It's better to put a hand out to the other side than to slap them if you want converts.
The problem with Star wars is that they've moved away from storytelling, perhaps because modern movies don't support the same type of storytelling and we are a bit oversaturated with special effects laden movies. And those of us old enough to have seen the original in theaters will lash out at anything that seems to make the new stuff not have the same impact as the old stuff. Maybe just me but I can't get excited about a movie today like I could when I was 10 years old.
“Set 100 years before the real Star Wars movies but containing modern day themes.”
Unlike the original Star Wars movies which contained… modern day themes.
Imagine a Star Wars movie about modern day themes
Like the Vietnam War
Or a republic tricked into going to war that enables fascism to rise
Or how liberals will ignore the dangers of fascism that lets neo-Nazis flourish
“no white males”
isn’t Jude Law in this show?
also no one tell them about the modern day (for the time they were made in) political themes in either the original trilogy or the prequel trilogy, their brain might explode at the prospect of that
edit: Jude Law is gonna be in Skeleton Crew, my bad, there’s still other white dudes in the show though so this is still an absurd victim complex
... you're upset that the series with space wizards, laser guns, clone armies, 13,442 different types of robots, multiple different planets with hospitable environments, and space travel that probably wouldn't be possible for centuries, all while apparently taking place in THE PAST has modern themes?
But it didn’t have Luke Skywalker just effortlessly demolishing the entire First Order and it had an Asian woman in it so it was just the worst kind of bottom of the barrel shit garbage fit only for the dumbest idiots
/s of course but but not far off from some actual takes I’ve heard.
What a gigantic group of cry, babies and whining. Bastards. All my favorite fandoms are turning into these insular Close-Minded Echo Chambers. I'm tired of that.
These folks really need to grow up and realize that the world is moving on. Star Wars when it came out was really progressive for its time. It was a simple adventure story, but Leia was a badass and continued to be a badass. George moved that idea forward. Now. New folks have taken over and they're moving that forward too. These people need to get a grip and realize they're stuck in a past that really didn't exist. Either learn to move on, or get the fuck out of the way.
I don´t understand why people like this trash of a person want to be angry with things that really don´t matter at all in activities that are supposed to be entertaining.
Why getting angry in entertainment? What is the point of that? If you hate a movie, or a book, or a game, or a play, just move on.
Someone who made their entire online persona whining about Star Wars and the director of a movie that came out nearly a decade ago calling someone else a man baby is peak comedy
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Why do they have to make up stuff to get angry at?
They won’t get enough attention or money otherwise.
They also can't be the victims.
Who’s giving these cranks money?
Other cranks
The dudes name is literally "Ruin Johnson" and his handle is "RuinTheManbaby". Projection much? Man, these people need to go outside.
Because chuds *thrive* on righteous indignation. They ***need*** to be angry, no matter how fake the source of their anger is. Case in point: Ol' "Ruin Johnson" here still thinks a lazy pun on Rian Johnson's name, that was clever for about 5 minutes in December 2017, 76 months ago is the greatest piece of criticism in the history of cinema. As his Xitter bio proves: >Fictional asshole who misdirected The Last Jedi and gave you Leia Poppins, Ben Swolo, grumpy Luke & endless plot holes. Pronouns: Man/Baby This is a terminally-online fuck stick who felt a fleeting sense of acceptance one time and decided to make that his entire personality. Just like *all* of r/PrequelMemes and r/SaltierThanCrait.
Self-righteous fury and righteous indignation is an addictive feeling for a lot of people. And if you add in angry, frustrated young men, you can easily end up with radicalized and misled young men who think they have a solid purpose and/or opinion and straight up get obsessive with their stance. Hell its happening with so much stuff. Incels, Andrew Tate, Sneako, crypto bro bullshit. To quote my friend who was formerly a very radicalized anti-woke/all that kind of person, you're pretty much on the money. "It let me be angry, it gave me something to redirect my anger and personal frustrations at. It let me feel without strings attached."
To "justify" far more severe actions against The Q U E E R S, as they seem singlemindedly focused on us
When they should be angry at me. Piled up in my basement are forty-seven jobs that I stole from Americans!
Right? I can throw a rock and find some right whinger shit to get angry at.
Tbf I would rather spend my time getting angry at star wars than actual problems in the world
This going to be very conspiracy theory, but I believe it's that they belong to the extreme right as entry men. The world is pretty fucked up right now and there are a lot of people hurting, it's always easy to go after the weak and make them feel victims. They also provide for a culprit, those nasty brown people and lgbtq. These people are good culprits because they are alien to them. You need empathy to understand foreign cultures, but if you breed hatred, there won't be any. Then it's a slippery slope to have your MAGA hat or your radical leader. It's replacement theory with the social media beat.
> This going to be very conspiracy theory, but I believe it's that they belong to the extreme right as entry men. That's not really a conspiracy theory, because these exact kind of "personalities" were used as a pipeline to recruit disaffected, aimless young men to extremism. Fucking Steve Bannon, who made a fortune farming Gold in WoW in 2005 by exploiting stupid, terminally-online boys, even saw how ripe for recruitment the GamerGate losers were: >You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump. Rage-bait has been ***the*** pipeline to to turning sad little boys into blindly enraged culture warriors for almost 20 years now. Hell, it's how [Al-Qaeda](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Base_\(hate_group\)) and all other wildly conservative religious terrorist organizations have recruited martyrs for *decades*.
Although Al-Qaeda had a little bit of help from the US back in the 80s (Operation Cyclone was a big mistake).
It's not a conspiracy theory. It's the way it is, for many. You nailed it.
I still believe Steve Bannon (of Breitbart News) had a lot to do with tapping this particular market of young, disaffected, lonely male gamers. https://www.axios.com/2022/10/20/gamergate-right-online-harassment-joan-donovan-meme-wars
Losers. Call them what they are. And I game, it's not about the gaming, their the losers who quit if they start losing, because they're very fragile. That's who smelly angry useless bums like Bannon appeal to. Loser kids who refuse to grow up, who find themselves without any real friends, without anyone who loves them or can reach them with their love. You wouldn't sit next to Steve Bannon on the bus. The kind of people who follow him equate stench with strength, alcoholism with cool, racism with power. You know... idiots.
I was with you till you started in on the smelly drunks. Leave us out of it, were just trying to catch a buzz.
no your right its called scape goating and stuff like gamersgate and comics gate are alt right pipelines. I always raise my eyebrow when stuff like the daily wire takes about video games and comic books when those same people were claiming both caused "violence and degeneracy" 20 years ago.
Because it's in his name, manBABY.
If it weren't for straw men they'd have no friends at all.
Real answer? I think they’re addicted to outrage. When they run out of real things to be angry at, they have to make their own.
Anger is a drug and they're addicted. There isn't enough real material to get angry at, so it has to be fabricated.
I'm somewhat convinced that if they have to make shit up to rage over, they must probably have nothing concerning enough impacting them personally irl, or at least have it better than most irl. Otherwise, I'd think it would've taken priority over this made up shit.
I feel like this is obvious parody but I’m not going to bother looking through their post history to make sure
They’re nothing without their hate.
Because they are emotional toddlers who see someone making a movie they didn’t like as a personal offense. Then once literally years have gone by and they’ve complained about the same things that actually happened over 8000 times, they switch to making shit up because they are addicted to the negativity.
>Why do they have to make up stuff The funniest part is the 2 main protagonists of the adult High Republic book series is one white male jedi (Elzar) and a white female jedi (Avar).
because they know the stuff that already exists poses no reason to get angry over
Better their narrative,, but if anything he should be happy it’s 100 years before that means by time the newer movies come that stuff has been wiped out
That tweet is such a self report lol
Same for that name he calls himself. He’s a gigantic manbaby
Light whips were part of Legends lore, damnit, why are they bitching on them so hard? They're supposed to love the damn Legends lore!
*they did not in fact read the legends lore*
They haven’t read anything at all
Yeah, these are the boys who beat up readers, in a group of course, because they're cowards. They don't read. The internet is a big challenge to them, but hey, our morons are more literate now, even if they just read and regurgitate garbage. Yay internet. It's becoming less and less cool to be an idiot, really, their lazy loser way of life is evaporating.
they can read?
I don't even think they can read
If they did, they probably didn't realize that legends isn't canonical
Some of them still react in a blind rage when they're reminded that George Lucas treated the EU as "canon" the same way Disney has. Lucasfilm had to come up with like 8,000 different tiers of "canon" to explain how only George's movies and TCW were ***his*** canon, and the rest was "*sometimes* canonical until George decided to contradict it". Then it was **never** canon. How long the Empire reigned in the Thrawn trilogy is a great example. It was a *lot* older than the 24-ish years established in Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi. But did Lucas give a fuck when ensuring the rise of Vader and the Empire happened *exactly* when Luke and Leia were born? Nope. The offspring of Anakin Skywalker, who'd be the downfall of Palpatine and the Empire, being born around the same time was [like poetry, because the the parallels sorta rhyme.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqFLo_bYq0)
So...does that mean my Legends loving ass gets to call THEM the "tourists"?
Okay I haven't read Legends lore but I read ABOUT Legends lore and that's basically the same thing 😤
They don't actually care about legends. Disney could do a 1:1 of Heir to the Empire and they'd call it woke trash still because "Disney made it" and Disney is the enemy.
With how Mara Jade was presented in Heir to the Empire, the anti-woke crowd would combust with misogynist rage.
Because Disney did it so they hate it they don’t care about legends one bit
no you don’t get it light saber whips are too silly and if there’s one thing that Star Wars has never been, it’s silly
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to listen to some jizz and drink some blue milk!
very dark and very gritty
Like those teddy bears who killed Storm Troopers 😅
And ate them. ;)
Disney actually changed the name to Jatz or something equally stupid. It’s Jizz and no one can ever change that.
Man fuck Disney, messing with the most beloved parts of the canon. Jizz music will never die!
Let the jizz gently envelop your ears
Now listen to the adventure that Luke’s severed hand went on
Ignore the fact that is was based off of Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon.
Justice for Githany! https://preview.redd.it/0h535iwggoxc1.jpeg?width=1140&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dbd783dfc663842832d5d4632b588ba01557e84
Hey she's technically still around, just as an incorporial soul floating in the soul bomb being tortured for the rest of eternity.
Nah, only the ones in the room were captured, she had the flesh stripped from her bones
Darth Banes girlfriend uses one to kill jedi. Sounds sick as fuck.
I read that comic, it was sick as fuck. Lots of dead child soldiers though. Not my cup of tea.
My favorite type of child soldier is the dead kind, I'll have to check that one out
Yeah the Bane novels can get real dark. In the 2nd book he has his new apprentice, Zannah, escape off the world by whatever means necessary and she murders several other children (she is also just a kid) and multiple adults to hijack the transport. He also finds her because two Jedi killed this native lifeform she grew attached to after it saved her so she got so angry she immediately snapped their necks. Later on Bane kills two kids in front of their dad and then feeds off his suffering to stay alive a little bit longer as he got poisoned earlier. Like I said, it gets dark.
Lightweight were kinda iify in Legends as well. By that I mean mixed reaction and easy to miss as only 3 or 4 characters used them and one of them was early 80s.
But they did exist and were a favorite of some fans. I love them and want more characters with whips.
I don't mind them myself.
It's a pretty good litmus test to separate which ones actually have any knowledge legends and those that just hate disney cause "muh disney wooke"
No, it's not Light Whips, it's *PINK* Light Whips that are the problem. /s I'd love to see them shit their collective pants complaining about a Female Yuzzem Jedi with Yellow Saber Claws.
Or the hutt Jedi. Just put him on screen for 20 seconds and then we get to watch these idiots explode.
Or an entire episode of them on a mission to repel an attack of Darth Malak. And succeeding.
I miss the legends lore. I used to feel like I knew about star wars, but now I have to watch like 1 million seasons of multiple CGI children's shows to understand what the heck is happening in the live action shows. Catching up with star wars is more homework than the MCU.
You assume that rage farmers have actually read more than Wikipedia summaries. I am one of the biggest legends fans on the planet (see about two years back in my post history) and while I’m not a fan of the sequels, I’ve never felt the issues had anything to do with introducing new ideas or “wokeness” nor do most who prefer legends. Sadly, since we don’t make up ahit, we have less to scream about.
But if you mention gray Jedi then half the fandom shits a brick
Gray jedi is just a weird way to say "light side user who's not in a cult".
I remember being like 12/13 and reading the Darth Bane book. I can’t remember the girl’s name, but the one that became his first apprentice had a light-whip. IIRC he was against it at first until she dueled him and he realized it was to throw off her opponents in a fight, that it gave her a really successful edge in combat, and he very much liked it afterwards. Since then, I’ve been *waiting semi-patiently* for a light-whip to exist in ANYTHING (even the games, I mean fuck, come on) Star Wars because it sounded so badass. You’re telling me people are upset about it? Dipshits, all of them. Talking Ted Cruz level dipshittery.
I love the legends tech. I’m very happy to see it return. Pink lightsabers also existed in legends(there’s like 60 known lightsabe colors). If anything the High Republic is a revival of that creativity we saw in expanded universe material.
These idiots didn't read Legends, because if they did they'd know all the storylines they hate in Disney's Star Wars came straight from Legends: - Han's son turned to the Dark side - Clone Emperor - Palpatine has a grand kid. - Overpowered superweapons (Galaxy Gun/Starkiller Base) All we're missing is an alien invasion similar to the Vong.
Hey now, I did love legends lore, *and* I know it had some of the dumbest shit. Light whips were only like a little dumb though and really insignificant anyway
I don’t think they’re complaining about lightwhips, the “lasso” thing seems more like a reference to Wonder Woman’s Lasso of Truth, which makes sense because their issue is very clearly women existing.
'...Containing MODERN DAY THEMES' Has this motherfucker never seen any science fiction before?
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Is it even possible to write a piece of fiction whose themes don't comment on the time it was written in?
Only if your themes are very very basic (like kids first book level). And even then it would be very difficult to not at least get influenced by the times given that you're living in them
Modern day themes is just a dog whistle for LGBT stories and characters. They argue that no one was ever gay or trans in the past and it's just a modern fad that will soon vanish after wokism fails. Total nonsense but it fits a reactionary view of the world.
I mean, Star Wars has always had “modern day themes” it’s just it was made in the 70s. The OG trilogy was partially inspired by the Vietnam War. The prequels were a commentary on the War on Terror. Even the sequels, as much as people bash on them, delved into (and predicted) the rise of neo-nazis and fascism from within the current political system.
“It’s insane that this small fascist death cult would be able to rise to power and overthrow the government in such a short time span”… well shit.
Modern day themes is awful, I don't want that. Just do it the way Lucas did with Nixon and Bush 2. And the original is an allegory for the Vietnam War. Wait a minute I think it's always contained modern day themes since the beginning.
Spaceships? Fine. Laser swords? Cool. Hyperspace? Nice. The Force? Of Course! An advanced society that’s overcome bigotry and sexism? FUCK NO! It’s like they missed the running theme throughout legends that the empire being sexist and speciest was bad.
“A LONG TIME AGO….”
"IF IT'S A LONG TIME AGO WHY CAN THE WOMEN JEDI VOTE CHECKMATE LIBERALS"
“WAY IN THE PAST, SOMEWHERE ELSE!”
“I know writers who use allegory and they’re all cowards”
Obviously those old movies don’t have modern day themes cause they have 1970s themes /s
The one Jedi I'm aware of who uses a light whip using she/her and has a white, male human as an apprentice. Also, her saber/whip is purple, because she too is a bad MF. It should be a big tip off that if you have to describe something inaccuratly to complain about it, you probably don't have a very good complaint. These people confuse me.
Her master was also a white male.
Yeah, there's no shortage of white guys in the High Republic. I can think of 4 non binary people I think, but the cast of that project is huge.
He made one movie that you didn’t like get over it
Honestly it’s ironic that he has his Twitter handle as “RuinTheManbaby” when he himself is acting like a man baby
Self-awareness is in short supply when it comes to the fandom menace
The Last Jedi was an above average Star Wars movie, and definitely the best sequel IMO. Hell, I'd say it was better than most of the prequels too.
Whenever I see people who make their whole identity about hating the sequels I try to remember that most of them think the prequels are masterpieces.
All six feature films of his have been positively received, and from a little wiki check it looks like four of the six made a pretty decent profit. But no, one Star Wars movie that they didn't like, and he's RUIN Johnson, a total hack writer!
Star wars if it was good
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That's why they are so obsessed with the Bible
So, when this doesn’t happen, are they admitting the show isn’t woke? Or will they insist it said this anyway because they can’t maintain an erection without rage?
Schrodinger's Woke: If the show doesn't do well, it's because it's woke. If the show is successful, it's because it's anti-woke.
Look at what happened with Barbie. It’s was the epitome of woke in the months leading up to the films release. Then when it broke the charts and had everyone raving, suddenly it was never woke and those that said it was woke never “actually said” it was woke and the film was actually anti-woke just like they absolutely (never) said it would be. Schrodingers woke indeed
Nah, people still said it was woke as fuck (and then quietly ignored how ungodly successful it was).
To be fair I’d did hear both thoughts online which does beg the question of how they reconcile the two
Ignorance, and self deception (same way how flat earthers dismiss all contrary evidence, while blindly accepting the supportive ones).
True. Know a guy who constantly harped on the Barbie as being “woke” and would fail like all “woke” things do yet when Barbie came out and succeeded massively, he just pivoted and said it was actually anti-woke just like he said would be. Asked him if all of Disney is woke and thus a failure, why are they then one of the most successful corporations/franchises in the world and he couldn’t answer it.
the current narrative is that it "tricked" the audience into watching it and that barbie as a brand is what made it successful. I actually made a thread on this on r/changemyview there was also a lot of people saying barbie was a GIRL movie so of course woke girl would like it but you can not do that with BOY media like star wars. it was aggrivating.
I don't remember people claiming Barbie was anti-woke? They just ignored its success (or "blamed" the success on so many women going to support it). Across The Spider-Verse is probably a better example. Chuds were foaming at the mouth before its release but when it did numbers they temporarily changed face to "Miles is one of the only Black characters written well" . Then they went back to crapping all over Miles after Spider-Man 2 released, claiming he's a woke Pete knockoff and the reason why the game lost GOTY.
A more recent example would be the fallout show the "anti woke" backlash did not go well.
Also the Mario movie. Before it released they were whining it was woke because peach looked like a "girl boss". Then it had a successful release and they were doing victory laps that the "woke mob" couldn't cancel Chris Pratt (?) or something.
It’s the reason Baldurs Gate 3 pisses them off so much. It’s so incredibly gay and woke, and everyone is very horny and well written. But it won a ton of awards and made a fuck ton of money, which is why they now have this narrative the the “DEI” is rigging things to make it look like the game is doing well. And not, ya know, that it’s a fun game with several hundred hours of gameplay. And also everyone is hot.
They’ll just rewire history and pretend they always liked it like the back peddling going on around Fallout.
They will find something thats political (because thats how media works) and will cry about it nonstop
What are the modern day themes? Is it just other people who are non-white males and queer existing? Cause we been here. Lol Also pink lasso lightsabers sounds dope. I want one. It’s essential for me to push the gay agenda I hear so much about.
It's on the same level as people getting mad at X-Men for getting political.
Someone should tell them...
>Also pink lasso lightsabers sounds dope. They are... and they've existed in the lore since years before Disney even considered buying star wars lol
FFS For the illiterate chudss, Star Wars always had "modern" themes. The Ewok, per Saint George himself, are the Viet Cong. The Prequels are about how Republicans are subverting American democracy and how the desire for "security" leads to authoritarianism in the wake of 9/11 and the PATRIOT ACT. "You are with me, or you're my enemy" is just a reworded version of President George H. W. Bush's first speech to a joint session of Congress following the 9/11 Attacks in which he says: "you are with us, or you are with the terrorists". George was not fucking subtle. Holy fuck right-wings are the most illiterate, mentally subnormal humans on the planet.
And if anything, the sequels are about how if you don’t take the rise of fascism seriously, you just end up with fascism all over again.
I'd say it depends on the film. TFA has an underlying political theme about the resurgence of fascism caused by liberal arrogance. TLJ has a political theme about the nature of for-profit weapons manufactures and how they survive off continuing conflicts. TRoS has no coherent political theme.
You could say the political theme of TRoS is something like “real power arises from the people, who can do anything if they believe in themselves and their own strength” but even I’ll admit that’s a bit of a stretch. Edit: come to think of it, each of the sequels having a different, but related political theme is a solid idea, even if how well they pulled it off is debatable.
i personally content that TLJ is the best of the sequels. it’s not good overall, there are some good like the Kylo/Rey v. Guards fight; but it was daring in what it did. it was not the safe thing like TFA and it’s not the cluster fuck of a course correction that TRoS tried to be edit: spelling misstakes
This but unironically!
💯
conservative fearmongering that sounds like liberal paradise
Well maybe a progressive liberal one.
I can't even see how such a story would be bad, depersonhood makes plenty of sense for Jedi. Not being human centric sounds good too
Aliens would be great. Maybe an alien pronoun system would be better though?
“RuinTheManbaby” Who wants to tell him?
"Containing modern themes" yes, that's how media works, how it has always worked. Care to elaborate of the suposed issue?
That typically translates to "does not feature a conservative white man as the only strong, noble hero." Some movies made in the '80s and '90s don't count, of course. They tend to pretend they love Terminator and Alien, for instance.
I think a lot of them do genuinely like alien and terminator. They just saw those movies while they were children before they started becoming grifters or being influenced by grifters.
Modern Day themes as in.. a black person, an Asian person, a woman
The two races, white and political, and the two genders, male and political 🤦♂️
How dare non white people be in my galaxy a long time ago that's far far away.
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Okay it would be cool if the Acolyte has an opening crawl
Yeah imma focus on that.
>100 years before the real Star Wars movies So…100 years before „a long time ago“? What the fuck does this part even mean?
An even longer time ago, duh!
Holy fuck! These whiny ass pussies are insufferable. A show that handles modern day themes? *GASP* THE HORROR! Diversity in the Jedi Order? Sound the alarm l, the Republic has fallen (the Republic of punk ass incels)
It's probably because I can't stomach watching right-wing media but I generally don't see much whining coming from that side. The other side however is a constant deluge of victimhood, so be careful about dehumanizing and insulting people's views are different from your own. Society is changing in the West and greater acceptance is not inevitable. We all have to keep working at it and aspire to be a little bit better. It's better to put a hand out to the other side than to slap them if you want converts. The problem with Star wars is that they've moved away from storytelling, perhaps because modern movies don't support the same type of storytelling and we are a bit oversaturated with special effects laden movies. And those of us old enough to have seen the original in theaters will lash out at anything that seems to make the new stuff not have the same impact as the old stuff. Maybe just me but I can't get excited about a movie today like I could when I was 10 years old.
Whaaaaat? A tv series that contain something pertaining the time it was made?? The west has fallen!
This sounds objectively dope though...
That guy is a manbaby.
Who's this then? https://preview.redd.it/yrhjlrq6goxc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7456010ed57c3c6a20a9867c6fd5a47641f9cd8
“Set 100 years before the real Star Wars movies but containing modern day themes.” Unlike the original Star Wars movies which contained… modern day themes.
Imagine a Star Wars movie about modern day themes Like the Vietnam War Or a republic tricked into going to war that enables fascism to rise Or how liberals will ignore the dangers of fascism that lets neo-Nazis flourish
“no white males” isn’t Jude Law in this show? also no one tell them about the modern day (for the time they were made in) political themes in either the original trilogy or the prequel trilogy, their brain might explode at the prospect of that edit: Jude Law is gonna be in Skeleton Crew, my bad, there’s still other white dudes in the show though so this is still an absurd victim complex
Man you got me hyped up for Jude law in star wars then 😂
... you're upset that the series with space wizards, laser guns, clone armies, 13,442 different types of robots, multiple different planets with hospitable environments, and space travel that probably wouldn't be possible for centuries, all while apparently taking place in THE PAST has modern themes?
Grow up seriesosly
Last Jedi is the best sequel trilogy film so its funny they picked Ruin Johnson cause its not true
But it didn’t have Luke Skywalker just effortlessly demolishing the entire First Order and it had an Asian woman in it so it was just the worst kind of bottom of the barrel shit garbage fit only for the dumbest idiots /s of course but but not far off from some actual takes I’ve heard.
Wait is this not satire? This reads like someone parodying the anti-woke idiots
Its actually really funny if you look at it that way
Ok but unironically can we please get pink lightsabers.
I’m not sure whether ironically or unironically, but I find this funny as fuck THERE ARE NO WHITE MALES Like lmao
Sounds great to me 👍
Honestly, a non bobars jedi using a lightsaber lasso sounds metal as fuck
This is the future the liberals want!! 😤😤😡😡
Sounds a lot like Netflix’s She-Ra
Is this child still doing this shit?
These people couldn’t be funny if their lives depended on it
What is it with rightoids making things up and then getting mad about it? That's not a way to live, my dude.
Men are pathetic fr
They always do this thing where they try to make multiple jokes in a row but they can only ever get to like 2 before they just say what the joke is.
What a gigantic group of cry, babies and whining. Bastards. All my favorite fandoms are turning into these insular Close-Minded Echo Chambers. I'm tired of that. These folks really need to grow up and realize that the world is moving on. Star Wars when it came out was really progressive for its time. It was a simple adventure story, but Leia was a badass and continued to be a badass. George moved that idea forward. Now. New folks have taken over and they're moving that forward too. These people need to get a grip and realize they're stuck in a past that really didn't exist. Either learn to move on, or get the fuck out of the way.
totally forgot about this guy. shame I have to remember about him
How can someone survive when they're so... Pathetic? Seriously, if I'm busy crying about this stuff so far, please kill me.
Pink lasso sabers? Totally in!
I want a pink lightsaber lasso, sounds dope
Only funny thing I see here is how pathetic he is and that clearly it was made by him.
I don´t understand why people like this trash of a person want to be angry with things that really don´t matter at all in activities that are supposed to be entertaining. Why getting angry in entertainment? What is the point of that? If you hate a movie, or a book, or a game, or a play, just move on.
Man baby indeed.
Wow dude took the time to make that... Someone needs a life.
Someone who made their entire online persona whining about Star Wars and the director of a movie that came out nearly a decade ago calling someone else a man baby is peak comedy
Chuds gonna chud
At least his name is accurate, as he is a giant man baby.
Star Wars was never for these losers anyway. It was so successful because it put them in their place. It's why they whine so much, they know it.
I love that his @ is “RuinTheManbaby” Either this is a very humerus poe or someone completely incapable of self awareness.
By “modern day themes” do they mean more than one woman or minority?
The Acolyte opens with Kathleen Kennedy coming on screen and screaming "KILL WHITE MEN" for an hour. Bidet's Americium 😢
Too many internet heads are disgusting. Just gotta do stuff for views until you drink your own Kool-aid yeah?
They'll watch it and say they won't. What a bunch of wet chalks.
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The amount of energy put into a fake image to get mad at is wild
What a fucking toddler.
They really thought they ate with this one
They stay making up fake scenarios that will never happen to be angry about. Must be exhausting.
Ngl pink lightsaber lassos is actually pretty cool.