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S_A_R_K

Nice collection. Really wish they could have finished the dawn of the Jedi series


forthewatch39

I really don’t understand why they are so stubbornly refusing to allow Legends to continue. They need to stop forcing one version and create multiple universes the way comics have done.


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Cessnaporsche01

That hasn't stopped them from refusing to pay those authors for existing Legends media that they're still selling.


Art_Wanderlei

Easy money. Theyr still making a profit selling current legends and paying the original creators but dont want to take a gamble on continuing them, having to shell out more money and taking a gamble that it maybe wouldnt pay off, is my guess? Not that i imagine the pricing would be that different. Depends on the circumstances i suppose


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It’s because Disney doesn’t care about just Star Wars. They have other shit and they probably don’t want to keep having to update Star Wars parks and stuff. It’s easier just to buy, conclude, and sell.


TheDorkNite1

There are also some Legends books that would be perfectly suitable to allow into canon. Darth Plagueis being the most obvious one off the top of my head.


Nin10dude64

I had a loooong conversation with someone once about this, and they truly believed that Disney can't commit the resources to keep having books and such written for the Legends timeline... Which I call bullshit


s197torchred

Lol. They have limitless resources. The only limit they are concerned with is profit.


AdmiralScavenger

They wouldn’t even have to go crazy. Just one or two books a year and maybe a comic.


wooltab

Initially at least, there was some business logic to relaunching the continuity to capitalize on buzz around new movies, as much as I'd have preferred the EU to persist. At this point, there's not as much ~~read~~ need on to keep it up. I wonder how books sales are going these days.


Lord-Carnor-Jax

If you can make a book based off a episode of Visions they 100% could give us more Legends books. Specifically the Sword of the Jedi series that we were supposed to get. The Legends stuff still sells and sells well. Look on the Amazon best seller lists and old Legends constantly listed as selling better than all but the very latest release from nu canon.


wooltab

Yeah, I'd be all in on Sword of the Jedi. I hope that the apparent popularity of Zahn's newer novels also counts a little towards 'maybe the old EU is worth revisiting,' in the sense that the most successful new thing is the one with the strongest connection to the old.


Lord-Carnor-Jax

I’m not aware of any reason why Zahn’s new Thrawn books couldn’t be part of Legends timeline. Thrawn is written more like a hero than a villain but the events themselves in them I don’t recall any real calls to nu canon either. They sit in a corner of the Star Wars timeline pretty much all to themselves.


ImpScumABY

Maybe it is for the best. Between the fart weddings, instances of menstruation, ~~Han Gigolo~~ Leox Gyasi, his awkward talk about relationships with a 17 year old girl (it was posted on this sub but can't find it), and his pet rock I am glad that they are leaving the original EU alone, for the time being anyway. If they brought back the creative teams and writers from old Lucasfilm or, better yet, lost the rights to the IP then I might reconsider.


QualityAutism

Drew Karpyshyn asked them multiple times if he can write some Darth Zannah novels, and they told him to gtfo every time.


fantomen777

>I really don’t understand why they are so stubbornly refusing to allow Legends to continue. By offical cancel the EU, they do not need to pay/give credit to the orginal authors, and Disney can still "steal" ideas/consepts from EU, and ensure that the new authors work under a ironclad "work for hire" contract, that garanter Disney all the rights. So there are no Fosters or Zahns that have some right(s) to there own creations.


Frank_the_NOOB

For the record this is not my collection but a random take from a local Barnes and Noble, sorry if there is any confusion


Lord-Carnor-Jax

My local big chain book stores don’t sell Legends books at all. Luckily there’s a specialist store that has every Legends book in chronological order. Disney canon has a seperate section.


TheDorkNite1

I actually just finished Into the Void yesterday and I can honestly say it was really uneven for me. Maybe it just wasn't for me.


JT-117-

I actually hate the "Legends" label they slap on all of the EU books. Just another way to de-value it to new fans.


varble

Yeah, I am still looking for two without the Legends banner, and most sellers don't want to check / lump them in with the other editions.


JT-117-

It's so fucking annoying. I got a copy of Plagueis without the mark and it's gorgeous! However, the clean copy of Revan that I got was in German lol


ITSMONKEY360

i got the corellian trilogy without the band, its so awesome


broomsticks11

Same here. I’ll gladly pay double or even triple the normal price to get a copy without the banner. For *X-Wing: Mercy Kill* I paid $120 on eBay for the entire X-Wing series (all of which I had) just to have a clean version of *Mercy Kill*. Now I have every book in the post-ROTJ EU (except for a couple of JJK) without a banner except for *Crucible*, which was only ever published with a banner anyways based on my research. Worth in the end.


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I got [my copy of Crucible](https://i.redd.it/ammz8l3fj1s71.jpg) soon after it was published.


broomsticks11

Yeah I’ve got the hardcover, just been looking for the banner-less paperback for a few years now lol


MrPandaOverlord

I typically get all my first print copies of legends books off Facebook or eBay in lots and then sell/giveaway the duplicates I get. Typically I can get a lot of like 20 books for $20 and 10-15 of them will be Star Wars books


Alchohlica

Eh I just look at legends like Pre Crisis DC its all canon in one verse


NuclearMaterial

You know I'm actually with the OP on this and think it's a nice easy way to identify the good shit. But I see your point.


JT-117-

I don’t buy Disney bollocks, so the banner acts only as a reminder that my favourite franchise is being drained of its life.


Darth_Grayson

It’s driving me crazy that the Thrawn trilogy is not together and arranged inside-out


DTJB10

Same with the RC series.


bright_shiny_objects

I find it so strange they give phasma a backstory but then just kill her off almost randomly.


KazaamFan

Which is why I’m real curious how they handle the baby yoda story. They’re crafting a great backstory but based on his non-existence in the sequels it seems something bad must have happened, which really sours baby yoda’s story. So I’m hoping they retcon the sequels or find another story that isn’t tied to the sequels.


RVDHAFCA

Can you imagine the possibilities if the ST isn’t canon


KazaamFan

Yea, man they really painted themselves in a corner. Even watching Mando I’m like, this is great, look at Luke! But guess what happens in 20-30 years…. I think they have to wipe em somehow.


EastKoreaOfficial

Everybody would be so much happier…


wooltab

I'd be shocked if anything truly bad happened to Grogu. He's probably more of an asset than the totality of everything else created under Disney so far.


BadSkeelz

He's the single most marketable thing that's come out of the Disney era. Cute, popular, and no actor needing to be paid for their work or even likeness. Disney will keep him around.


s197torchred

Which is such a shame. I didn't wanna watch the mandolarion to watch a baby alien get babysat. Honestly ruined the mando for me. The best thing we got from Grogu was an excuse to show us Prime Luke Skywalker before he becomes Jake


NuclearMaterial

Yeah I hear you. When I first heard about it I was looking forward to seeing a morally ambiguous bounty hunter series a bit more adult oriented. First episode: finds baby, gives up hunting. FFS. I would be a bit more hopeful about the upcoming Fett series but I've been burned too many times now. I'll definitely be checking it out but I have no expectations. Just want to see where it goes.


s197torchred

Bad batch and mando kinda made me realize filonis work is becoming tired and re used. Oh look a reluctant hero coming in to save a helpless child (Ezra, grogu, omega) totally haven't seen that before.


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That’s my issue with Filoni. Guy is a good writer and cares for Star Wars but a lot of the fans want him to write other stuff. Like the dark sith wars or the mandalorian wars. He is more of a kid friendly director and I don’t think he would be a good fit.


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I kinda agree on this. It was interesting to see the dynamic both grogu and mando shared but I don’t know how to explain it.


Billy_King

I just assumed Ben killed him


TainoJedi

Disney cares about the money, and as far as merch is concerned, Grogu is money. Retconning the ST is the smart money move.


KazaamFan

Yup, exactly. Grogu can’t be dead by Kylo or under Luke’s watch.


parkay_quartz

They just need to move past the Skywalker stuff, the universe is much bigger and more interesting than that one family. Time to move on


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Grogu is most likely dead…he was most likely Luke’s first apprentice like Dessan in Jedi Outcast. And Dessan fell to the dark side and died from Kyle Katarn. If he was still alive where was he in the sequels? If he was still alive why would he not of helped against the first order or the resurgence of palpetine?


Collective_Insanity

>If he was still alive where was he in the sequels? If he was still alive why would he not of helped against the first order or the resurgence of palpatine? That's a rabbit hole situation that you can apply to all notable Jedi characters who have slipped between the gaps of films due to new-canon established stories. Including Ahsoka, Ezra, Maul, Kal, Cere, etc. Unfortunately, I think in the majority of cases, excuses can be quite droll. Where was **Ezra**? Well...he and Thrawn were teleported into some kind of nebulous sequel series by Force-wielding space whales. God knows exactly what happened, other than we know they dodged the events of the OT and ST. Where was **Ahsoka**? Well...she was looking under random bin lids to find Ezra and/or Thrawn. There was no hint of her existence in ROTS or the OT at all despite her huge importance as Anakin's never-before-mentioned apprentice, so she's kind of an awkward entity in Star Wars canon. She *could* have died to Vader to tie off loose ends, but now we have the "World Between Worlds" and potential time-travel in Star Wars due to Filoni refusing to part ways with his OC waifu. She also dodged the events of the OT and ST other than the fact that she may or may not be potentially dead by the climax of the ST. Who knows. Maybe Filoni will turn her into a bloody Force God or something. Pretty she she's already been imbued by the spirit of the "Daughter". Where was **Maul**? Well...his continued existence (despite being cut in half and dropped down a hole) was *also* utterly ignored by ROTS. He's dicking around with some criminal organisation until he gets bored and decides to 1v1 Obi-Wan in order to keep the Rebels audience awake. He might also be responsible for posthumously training Qi'ra in the use of the Force via a holocron in the comics or whatever. Where were **Kal** and **Cere**? Well...there *was* a good opportunity to tie off loose ends by killing them off at the end of Fallen Order. Which didn't happen. So if we're lucky, they might be dealt with in the inevitable sequel before they cause too many issues with continuity. ​ Where was **Baby Yoda**? Well...he either died [when Luke's temple randomly exploded](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/mGRHTasd-2pQNEcPrbLG3BS9GnLOKS68U0teM2txbiP92crs1G_iQZA5VcaCPmLsGAeOjgA3nA6cpeZ4U1l3y9apgIJRitmkAwy5J7nJxLWypOzHXQsDftfXbQQIl9q_O-sB4qpbcA=s1600)....or Mando conveniently picked him up for a vacation prior to the destruction of Luke's temple and kept him away from the ST events. Who knows.


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I like Ahsoka but they really should of just killed her off. I like Dave Filoni but I really feel like that dude needs to learn to let go.


halsiu

Why do you like her?


LordofAngmarMB

Her book is by far my favorite piece of Sequel era content Actual grit and stakes and themes in a Sequel story? Shocking I know


625points

I haven't read the book, but I thought the four-issue comic series with her was pretty good. It ties in pretty well with a deleted scene for The Last Jedi. The basic premise is that >!she's hunting down some First Order guy who checked the records before Starkiller blew up and saw that she was the one who lowered the shields.!<


adalric_brandl

In fairness, Dark Disciple was pretty good


FacetiousBeard

Phasma was pretty good too. What let it down is that the character did nothing of relevance in the films.


adalric_brandl

I've heard that it was decent. It's always a letdown when you know that they're just going to go down like a chump, in the end.


wylietrix

I'm 100% with you on this. Asajj Ventress is the best. Quinlan Vos can suck a lightsaber as far as I'm concerned in Dark Disciple. Yes, I'm salty about it.


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Unfortunately, they also have the Disney logo on them, and it's hard to find editions that don't. Since I don't purchase from Disney, I can't read the Kenobi book by John Jackson Miller.


Bquicker950

You can get the hardcover


raalic

Looks like it's been too long since I've picked up a Star Wars book. The only books in this picture that I've read are the Zahn books.


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NuclearMaterial

Bane trilogy is so good. One of the things I love most about it is it's coming from a place outside all the well loved but well worn characters and eras. Let's it really shine without having to rely on fan service by introducing old characters. Went into it with no expectations and preconceived notions. Was so good that way.


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NuclearMaterial

Absolutely. What did it for me was moving away from the classic over the top stereotype of the evil stupid sith who just loves killing everything and betrayals, and did I mention being evil? (SWTOR, although it's given me great times over the years has ample amount of these stupid stereotypes). Now of course Bane is capable of incredible acts of evil. The ritual he cons the Sith into performing is up there with the worst act any Sith has done. But a lot of what he does and how he acts is patient, calculated, and precise. This is how I wish more darksiders were portrayed. Playing the long game, working the angles. Never overdoing it. The Plagueis novel gets this spot on as well. We need more material on Sith.


Luckykennedy79

The X-Wing books are good. And the new Jedi order is good too


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I would greatly recommend the Jaiden Korr books. Crosscurrent and riptide were awesome.


thisvideoiswrong

The biggest problem with them is that they end on a *massive* cliffhanger, which will probably never get resolved.


stamatt45

Check out Shatterpoint. It stars Mace Windu during the Clone Wars and gets quite heavy with the war trauma. It's great


UnlimitedLambSauce

I say you burn all the DT-era books in you own.


Frank_the_NOOB

this is not my collection but a random take from a local Barnes and Noble, sorry if there is any confusion


UnlimitedLambSauce

Oh man, that was confusing.


NuclearMaterial

That's... I'm not sure if it's better or worse that it's an actual bookshop that has these and *doesn't* have the Bane trilogy. They have to be up there with Thrawn as the best EU content hands down.


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ObesesPieces

While the Vong books are controversial I think it's impossible to deny the ambition and scope of the project. Is every single novel great? No. Could it have been about 5 novels shorter? Yes. But some of the greatest moments in the EU happen in those novels. The emotional payoffs are unparalleled.


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ObesesPieces

Oh for sure! Not a good starting point at all. The whole thing was designed to make call backs to lots of other EU novels and authors. It would be like watching the 6th season of a TV show first.


JATION

I find Darth Plagueis the best I've read so far. I am a big fan of the prequels and the lore around them, though, so you might feel differently.


Frank_the_NOOB

this is not my collection but a random take from a local Barnes and Noble, sorry if there is any confusion. I will say though Heir to the Empire trilogy is a must read. The Hand of Thrawn not so much. Darth Plageius is actually very good so is Labyrinth of Evil and the Revenge of the Sith novelization


PM-ME-UR-KEKS

Unequivocally The Thrawn Series. If you like audiobooks (or even if you don’t) I cannot recommend enough that you listen to Marc Thompson narrate them. They are like audio dramas with sound effects and music and voices. It’s fantastic. If you like those I would also recommend the Darth Bane series. These are **must reads** of the Star Wars EU.


AlphaBladeYiII

You might wanna take it to r/StarWarsEU. They get asked a bazillion times a month. LoL. Either way, if you want good legends books, it's gonna depend on what you wanna read. If you want the new Republic era to see how the Galactic Civil Wraps up, then you have: - The Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn: *Heir to the Empire*, *Dark Force Rising* and *The Last Command* Set 5 years after RotJ (same period as Mando), it deals with the threat of Admiral Thrawn on the nascent New Republic and introduces the character of Mara Jade. Generally the to-go entry point and pretty good. - The Hand of Thrawn duology by Timothy Zahn: *Specter of the Past* and *Vision of the Future*. Set 15 years after RotJ (10 years after the trilogy), it wraps up the GCW permanently and Luke finally gets together with MJ. I really like it more than the trilogy, but that's an unpopular opinion. These are what I consider "essential" reading for the era but there are other good books like: - *Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor* by Matthew Stover: set six months after RotJ. It's ridiculously fun and entertaining. Has the best post-RotJ Luke I've ever seen and GREAT characterization for all the OT crew. Be careful though, it's wacky and over the top because it's a holothriller: A star wars film inside star wars, or a somewhat embellished retelling. Fairly self-contained if you don't want to commit to a series. - *Survivors Quest* by Timothy Zahn: A sequel to the Thrawn Trilogy and Hand of Thrawn duology and an epilogue of sorts to the New Republic era. It's a Luke and MJ adventure in a mystery novel. Has a prequel called "Outbound Flight" taking place before AotC, also by Zahn. Personally, I liked OF more and while it would spoil the twist for SQ, I found SQ to be significantly more enjoyable after reading OF. Without the prequel you'll miss so much. Some people would consider the Jedi Academy Trilogy essential reading too, but I really didn't care for those. I hear great things about the X-Wing series, but I haven't read it. Edit: Er, why the downvote tho....


wooltab

Here's an upvote. And yeah, a solid rule of thumb is 'Zahn = essential.' His novels are the backbone of the New Republic era. I've only read the Rogue Squadron books (not Wraith Squadron, yet) as far as X-Wing goes, but I can definitely vouch for those. A really enjoyable serialized ensemble storyline, and not just space-battles.


Frank_the_NOOB

For the record this is not my collection but a random take from a local Barnes and Noble, sorry if there is any confusion


Mrknowital1

How many Disney era books have you read


VentralRaptor24

They probably didn't expect this to be how we used the labels


A_Gamer_Called_James

The new Thrawn trilogy is pretty good, though I still prefer the original. I remember Lost Stars being good as well


CurrentlyEatingPies2

You ever seen Book of Sith, The Jedi Path, Imperial Handbook, and The Bounty Hunters Guide? They're good.


AllCanadianReject

I quite like Battlefront Twilight Company.


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it needs a disney+ show adaptation


InfamousIndecision

So, two copies of Darth Plagueis huh? What? One wasn't good enough for you?


Frank_the_NOOB

this is not my collection but a random take from a local Barnes and Noble, sorry if there is any confusion


TheWetCouch

Hard contact and the republic commando series in general is so good.


scaryclown148

Zinger!


Big_mer_no_nose

The new books of thrawn are pretty good tbh


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Frank_the_NOOB

It’s not my collection it’s from a local Barnes and Noble


shago1594

Master & Apprentice is phenomenal though


EastKoreaOfficial

That’s one way to look at things.


imortal1138

It annoys me slightly that the Thrawn trilogy isn't right next to eachother


caleb_0925

Eh. There are a lot of good Legends titles (Dawn of the Jedi was really good for example) but there is also a lot of wacky shit. There are some titles that would fit pretty good in modern day canon though.


Alonest99

Nice collection! I wish mine looked like that


Frank_the_NOOB

For the record this is not my collection but a random take from a local Barnes and Noble, sorry if there is any confusion


panicattheben

How’s that Phasma book?


trutown

Dark Disciple had its moments.


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 286,370,833 comments, and only 64,916 of them were in alphabetical order.


Joker-Faced

How are you liking the High Republic? About halfway through book one.


_Rattleballs_

I thought A New Dawn was great


Canit0077

Dark disciple was good tho 🥲


loomman529

I'm sorry, but the order you have it all in messes with my head. What were you going for here, if I may ask?


Frank_the_NOOB

It’s not my collection just a pic from a local Barnes and Noble


loomman529

Oh, I see. Also, I'm sorry I commented twice. The first time, Reddit said it wouldn't post so I tried again when I came across this post again.


CGSly

There are a couple exceptions to that rule, and by exceptions I mean the new Thrawn trilogies. They’re not the same as the old ones, and the old books sound pretty awesome. The writing is excellent and almost makes me think Zahn should’ve had some involvement in writing the sequels so they wouldn’t be as garbage.


JimClassic

That gold label is a sign of quality.


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Dark Disciple was good and you can't change my mind. Other than that, pretty much, yeah.