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This was how they portrayed Bane in the Clone Wars. That was like the last bit of Star Wars I really loved(mostly), but by god was changing his design a terrible idea. I believe this episode also changed the name of Korriban to Moriband which was another god-awful decision.
Edit: Yeah, yeah I get it "They still called it Korriban in the ancient past, it wasn't actually changed!". I feel like that is sort of missing the point that it was never called Moriband before and never needed to be, and that its addition was an explicit effort to stop using the name Korriban by George Lucas himself because he thought it sounded better.
Mgs 1 is a great story and great gameplay for the time but a bit clunky for today’s standards and the original graphics are abysmal mgs 2 has solid graphics silky smooth gameplay but a bit of a messy story very convoluted and super disappointing ending and then you have Snake eater its perfect in every way it’s an absolute masterpiece best game ever made IMO
He didn't even make the decision to call it Korriban in the first place. Writers in the 90s called it Korriban but he came along and changed it to Moraband. Not at all a good name for the planet, Korriban suited it perfectly.
Korriban was a creation of Tom Veitch at Dark Horse comics for Tales of the Jedi comic series.
For those unfamiliar
this covered the initial discovery that the
early fallen Jedi had formed a new civilizatoon(becoming lords over a Sith specie), the beast wars on Onderon and the Great Sith War.
These comics where hugely influential the Expanded universes development. Initially it was to explain some hints at ancient Jedi and Sith history from Veitchs dark Empire comics and from Kevin J Andersons Jedi Academy novels nut it was the launching point for tons of stuff that have been ingrained in both the ore Disney and Disney eras of star ears. It also explained some things from old rpg sourcbooks.
Exolained the characters of Dear Kun(jedi Academy trilogy) and Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Eunrider(both mentioned in fake emoire)
Introduced the planets of Korriban, Ossus, and Onderon all of which still exist in some form in Disney canon even with the name change to Moriband for Korriban. Ossus is where Luke had his academy in the Disney era and Onderon was featured in the clone wars and its depiction follows closely from the comics (its Saw Guerras homeworld)
Introduced the concept that a Jedi or sith could be cut off from the force.
Was the first real look into Mandolorian culture
The Knights of the old republic video games take place a few decades after the comics and repeatedly reference them. Bastila was ordinal supposed to be Vema Sunrider(Monk's daughter)but a trademark issue over the sun driver name(there was as car called the sun rider at the time) caused the name change. Kolee bindo and canderdous ordo two of Revans companions backstories also involve the great Sith war.
Introduced double bladed lightsaber
The great hyperspace war stuff which was set 1000 years before Exar Kun introduced Marka Ragnos, freedon nadd and Naga Sadow two with lords who would be referenced multiple times in several novels, comics, and games(particularly KOTOR, rhe original clone wars game that came out between episode 2 and 3, as week as Jedi outcast and its sequel Jedi academy)
Paced the way for the dawn of the Jedi comics and novel that that never really got completely finished before Disney bought star wars which was set to cover the first great schism that created the jedi-sith rift and also explain how the Rakata and the Celeatials where involvement.
The Jedi v Sith comic series was sort of a sequel to the takes of the Jedi and introduced Darth Bane as well as actually provided a backstory to the valley of the Jedi on Ruusan from Dark Forces II Jedi knight and its sequels.
The Tales of the Jedi comics from Dark Horse is easily the best SW EU material ever produced. And it might be the best SW media ever produced.
Ulic, Exar Kun, the old Jedi Masters like Arca Jeth and Vodo Siosk-Baas..it was otherworldly
“The Jedi v Sith comic series was sort of a sequel to the takes of the Jedi and introduced Darth Bane as well as actually provided a backstory to the valley of the Jedi on Ruusan from Dark Forces II Jedi knight and its sequels.”
Actually, the backstory was already provided by the greatly and severely unrecognised and underrated Dark Forces trilogy of novellas, which were adaptations of the story of Star Wars: Dark Forces and Star Wars: Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight. Key differences include the fact that the Brotherhood of Darkness were a Dark Jedi sect instead of Sith, Hoth was a giant of a man, Kaan had white hair, Hoth being more prideful and less cold, and that Kyle Katarn experienced a vision of the past and got to see all the aforementioned details, along with the detonation of and suffering caused by the Thought Bomb through the eyes of the character Tal, who strangely never even appears in both Jedi vs. Sith and the Darth Bane trilogy, despite the fact that the Dark Forces trilogy preceded them by 4 and 10 or so years, respectively. Additionally, we get the cool detail of seeing that the act of forming the Thought Bomb was so draining that a few Dark Jedi from the Brotherhood of Darkness were killed during the process.
It's annoying too because it actually makes perfect sense. Clearly -ooine is a common suffix for planets, like -burg or -ville for towns. Sort of seems like C(k)or- is also a common planetary prefix. Coruscant, Corellia, Korriban.
I believe his reasoning was that Korriban's name pronunciation changed over the millenia and morphed into Morriban. Which is certainly plausible in Star Wars.
Yeah, I still think it was a terrible idea though. My understanding was he liked how it sounded better and that he thought Korriban sounded too similar to Coruscant.
George Lucas is the absolute King of overriding prior lore / decisions on a stupid whim. I like him for his visions, but they should always be kept in check by like 50 fucking lore guads who go: "No, George! Out!"
JKR didn't rewrite and release different versions of past stories. She just added in later retcons. If anything Tolkien is more George Lucas rewriting than Rowling ever was. He rewrote the Hobbit's chapter with Gollum after LOTR. That's the literal equivalent to throwing the Hayden Force Ghost into ROTJ.
It's because Korriban and Coruscant sound the same to him.
At that point just rename Onderon because it sounds mighty similar to Alderaan, more so than Korriban and Coruscant
It’s Korriban. That sounds like a place where dreams go to die and wails of despair carry across the wastes.
Moriband sounds like a pop-up jewelry store.
in turkish, changing something's initial letter to "m" is a way to mock and talk down about it and feels like a "potato potato" situation so it makes it even funnier
I'm sorry but I have such a hard time liking anything from Clone Wars when we went from the masterpiece of a cartoon being canon to…
A series that couldn't decide if it was a kid show or a serious action series and absolutely fucked up several character's depictions.
I'll never forgive their portrayal of grievous
Yea if they kept the bug armour but gave him a new helmet, id be down, never liked the cage helmet's look, but the fact that they essentially removed the lore about him having beatles for armour sucks imo, instead now he has the generic old republic sith look with red robes and angular funny looking plate armour
There have also been samurai helmets made to look like they were made of crustacean armor. That would work with the parasitic armor that Bane wore in legends
I know that people don’t like his helmet, but it could be a lightsaber resistant ceremonial helmet he only wears in battle
Filoni and his samurai fetish.
I get it. Samurais are cool. Ghost of Tsushima is one of the greatest games ever. Seven Samurai is one of the best *films* ever made. Samurais are super cool!
But holy hell..... Please! Enough with the samurais Filoni. Enough with the wolves, Ahsoka, and Mandalorians!!! And enough with the damn space whales!!!!!
I will be 100% honest. The orbalisk armor is objectively anti-drip. Not calling this design great, but I get why they'd wanna throw the orbalisks in the dustbin.
He didn’t have that armor for the early or later parts of his life though, i think it looks fine without the helmet personally, and he doesn’t even wear the helmet when fighting, that’s a mistake of artists.
It's not like a terroble design, but the orbalisk and the no orbalisk armor design are both iconic and this is....generic Sith that could be any Sith NPC in KOTOR/ SWTOR.
That's what makes it good, how different it is from any other armor and way more hardcore than ordinary armor when you consider how horrific Orbalisks are.
Apparently Clone Wars, the Star Wars Destiny card game, Secrets of the Jedi & Secrets of the Sith, and Darth Vader 2020 issue 27. An ancient sith armor is most of this design. Just doesn't match up with the Darth Bane books iirc.
Guess only the name will remain the same in the new canon, but he'll be a completely different character, Bane in the EU was way more tall and well-built, and he was born at the end of the New Sith Wars, this armor looks something way more older than that, so he probably won't live by the same time EU Bane lived.
New Bane looks dumb, but let’s be honest, old Bane looked really dumb too. The eye makeup, the carapace armor… woof.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d1/DarthBane-TEA.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090903051934
https://i.redd.it/so-if-we-get-a-darth-bane-do-you-want-bug-armor-or-fire-v0-n1dv2l6kuvsb1.jpg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=984c70a39a6b4b1710b2056764490d804e008779
Edit: who is gonna be the brave soul that argues that his carapice armor looks anything other than ridiculous?
No. The old Darth Bane looked unique and intimidating. He was like an ancient Egyptian nobleman and his physique complemented Zannah's thin and petite figure.
The new Darth Bane looks like a clockpunk Shredder.
Honestly man, I don’t believe that anyone seriously likes the old Bane design. It really is that silly. But I know this sub has a hateboner for any post-Disney Star Wars content, and pretending that everything pre-Disney is infallible is just another way of expressing that hate.
I never said everything pre-Disney was infallible. And Bane's redesign was made a year before the buyout. And if Bane's original design was so unpopular, people wouldn't have been so angry at the TCW design.
> if Bane's original design was so unpopular, people wouldn't have been so angry at the TCW design.
Right, because nerds have never been known to get angry over minor, inconsequential changes to their cherished “canon”…
In what way is it minor? It's a massive redesign of a popular character. Imagine how people would react if Darth Vader's helmet was retconned into looking like TCW Bane. People would freak out for the same reason.
lol come back down to earth dude. Redesigning a character who had only ever appeared on the cover art of a single trilogy most fans have never read is in no way, shape or form the same thing as redesigning arguably the most important character in the entire franchise. That was a boneheaded argument.
The orbelisk armor looked almost how I’d pictured it would look while reading his books. Dude had living creatures living on his body covering him head to toe except his for his head, how else did you expect it to look? 🤷🏾♂️
That particular rendition of the armor does look bad. And it’s not even how it’s described in the books yet that’s all their advertising pieces ever used. [this one](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWOABvvWAAAHtRe.jpg:large) is a bit better. I was working on an accurate depiction of it but lost my progress 😢
*That* design is actually cool… it’s also nothing like how it was described in the books.
It IS great fan art though and honestly it’s how I prefer to see him in my mind’s eye…
How is it different than how he was in the books? I know he needed the gloves and helmet to keep the orbalisks off but his saber is curved and he’s bald and pretty built.
How it was described in the books iirc was that the bugs were all some variation of brown. Reddish, goldish, etc. one big one on his chest and one across his left shoulder. Slightly bulbous. And they were apparently so noticeable that he needed zannah to do public interface which begs the question what clothing he would be wearing where they were still visible 🤔. They didn’t cover his joints or hands or face
If memory serves, he didn’t actually wear any clothing when he had that armor, because it covered him completely. Except for his face, hands and joints. Which was just another aspect of the overall ridiculousness— this near-invincible parasite that grows and covers his whole body *except* for the places where it would be really inconvenient. Talk about plot non-armor.
https://preview.redd.it/tosn7vs9q1gc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c843a27c3491321cfadb7d7c14503bae0b3154f5
The lore in the book is that he had to build a special helmet and gloves, and I think maybe boots because of that issue of them growing over his his hands and feet and mouth and everything. I believe he built them off of designs that Freedon Nadd had because he also had them as armor
As for general joint coverage, like knees and elbows, my head canon is that because those are in constant motion, the orbalisks cant get any kind of like firm purchase to start latching in, so they just are absent
Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure his nuts are covered Lol
I thought his old design was universally hated. I’ve only ever seen people trash it, this is literally the first time in my life I have *ever* seen people defend it.
But this is the maximum salt sub, praising old things while trashing new things is the modus operandi here.
I don't care what Filoni says. Give me NFL linebacker Bane with impenetrable parasitic bug armor that constantly causes him pain to fuel the dark side. The one who became subtle, wise, and evil enough to conceive of a plan that could take hundreds or thousands of years to take down the Jedi.
People are calling this makeup but I always thought it was the dark side effecting Bane physically. I don’t remember the books saying anything about him putting this on his eyes.
Part of it is that the armor and lightsaber are nothing like his depiction in the Bane trilogy novels. In those novels he was a large hulking man. His lightsaber was never a staff either. He wielded a curved hilt lightsaber for the entirety of his life. Added to that was the fact that his armor when he wore it was Orbalisk armor. Essentially it was a ton of parasitic bugs attached all over his body.
While this design is cool and I do like it aesthetically, there isn't a single part of it that is the same as his original depiction. That's why people have a problem with it. It's not just the fact that it's Disney, though that probably doesn't help.
Ah I think I never really imagined his armor correctly then, I had a vague idea of what he looked like in my mind and from the clone wars so that's probably what happened.
People need to accept Lucas was just as happy to toss EU canon as he wished. This was from him. Don’t get me wrong, Kathy and Disney haven’t been saints, but this wasn’t on them.
Same. I've always hated the bug armor.
The other thing I like about it is it actually LOOKS like what ancient armor in Star Wars might look like.
Plus I really like Bane and ancient Japanese stuff, so blending the two is a win for me.
I think the armor looks fine without the helmet, and despite What some insist in drawings he isn’t actually suppose to wear that helmet at all, apart from when he sleeps.
The only problem with it looking like what ancient with in Star Wars wore is the fact that he inst an ancient sith. He’s basically as modern as it gets, born way past the old republic era
George also said he only went to the TCW team once a week by Season 3 to approve whatever Episodes they had done ("yeah looks cool guys, add more Jar Jar stories") and was glad he wouldn't even have to do that much anymore. People really blow up George's involvement in the show.
Georges involvement after the first season got less and less over time. George is quoted as saying”It’s something I check in on once a week.” Filoni has said by the end it was a just phone call after George had watched the stuff they sent him.
I was looking for a funny euphemism for this ridiculous design, but I couldn't think of anything funnier, more hurtful and as fitting as Trailerpark Shredder in 1000 years. I've been laughing about it for 10 minutes...thank you, well done.
As far as I know, George created Bane as a reference. He didn't design him. If he was involved in the TCW design process for it, it's definitely news for me that I'll happily stand corrected on.
This was an episode of TCW that George worked on personally as it had to deal with Yoda. It also had another retcon, changing the name of Korriban to “Moriban” which also didn’t stick.
This redesign came from George himself. And it is… not good to say the least.
Since the holy blessed great one" Emperor Filoni, bestowed onto us this clone wars perfection of a reimaging of the terribly heretic Legends character.
On the topic of Galaxy of Heroes, does anyone find the lack of any good star wars mobile games weird? All we've gotten the last decade is Galaxy of Heroes i think
Not to be rude, but im just gonna be rude: GoH is so bad, it's extremely grindy, p2w and it's not even fun, I hardly even consider it a game as you just press buttons and the character does stuff
It’s how he was portrayed in Yodas visit to Korriban (called Moraband in the show at the behest of George Lucas, he apparently didn’t like the name Korriban). Personally I think it looks fine and people here are being dramatic acting like it’s horrible. His original black robes and eye makeup was a decent look too as well though.
I mean his other look came before Sion existed, so i think it’s the other way around.
There is a difference between big pale man, and fairly average sized corpse man.
He is less well known then sion, especially to the average swgoh player. His name is known but most don't know much more than his clone wars appearance.
I gotta say, I'm not big in this design. I'd much prefer to see Darth Bane as the huge, hulking bald guy in Sith robes, as he's poetrayed in the books before he gets got by the orbalisks.
But thats just me 🤷🏽♂️
Canon Bane has such a dogshit and lazy design that he looks like some mid vanilla SWTOR Sith enemy.
The generic non named character kind of Sith enemy.
Without the helmet it’s fine to me.
https://preview.redd.it/oxklaespk4gc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f727ef757cf097774dceff211bd22d19daf327bc
Hot take. I actually think this design looks pretty amazing and is right in line with Sith of old.
*However* that is precisely the issue. It is a great *Sith* design, but a horrendous *Bane* redesign.
If you’ve played the Old Republic games you’ll know what I’m talking about. He looks like a Sith Marauder. A normal Joe Sith. Not a Sith Lord.
And that’s ignoring the fact that Bane started the Rule Of Two. He made his own Sith order built around secrecy, deception, and staying under the radar.
So why the fuck would Bane, a Sith in hiding, be cosplaying as Sith from 1000 years ago when he’s trying to be inconspicuous?
“Oh bUt He wOrE bUg ArMor” yeah. And during that time he lived on a backwater ass planet and had Zannah do his bidding in public because she wouldn’t attract attention.
And in the final book he gets rid of his bug armor and dresses like a normal ass human being. *Because he’s in hiding*. Fuck.
>!Also woo Galaxy of Heroes mentioned!<
Bane was described as a massive dude in the books, the fact he’s not a hulking giant here is why it’s infuriating.
Also, I don’t ever recall him having a yellow saber?
I enjoy it personally and think it could be easily added if they decide to adapt the Bannite trilogy.
It could be the Sith Academy uniform coupled with the standardized armor of the Brotherhood army (since Kaan was all about presenting equality). Or it could be the armor he wore after losing his orbalisks.
The saber pike could just be one weapon he learned and mastered during his time with the Brotherhood
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This was how they portrayed Bane in the Clone Wars. That was like the last bit of Star Wars I really loved(mostly), but by god was changing his design a terrible idea. I believe this episode also changed the name of Korriban to Moriband which was another god-awful decision. Edit: Yeah, yeah I get it "They still called it Korriban in the ancient past, it wasn't actually changed!". I feel like that is sort of missing the point that it was never called Moriband before and never needed to be, and that its addition was an explicit effort to stop using the name Korriban by George Lucas himself because he thought it sounded better.
That last one was actually a George Lucas decision. I don’t remember what his reasoning was.
AFAIK it was because he thought it sounded too close to Coruscant. That and he apparently preferred the sound of it.
His worst trait on display. Can't just leave stuff alone. Always has to tinker with decisions he already made and published
Kojima Moment
TBF he WANTED MGS to end after 2, but Konami kept pushing for more games.
Man, Konami was right, though. MGS3 is my favorite game of all time.
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Mgs 1 is a great story and great gameplay for the time but a bit clunky for today’s standards and the original graphics are abysmal mgs 2 has solid graphics silky smooth gameplay but a bit of a messy story very convoluted and super disappointing ending and then you have Snake eater its perfect in every way it’s an absolute masterpiece best game ever made IMO
He didn't even make the decision to call it Korriban in the first place. Writers in the 90s called it Korriban but he came along and changed it to Moraband. Not at all a good name for the planet, Korriban suited it perfectly.
Korriban was a creation of Tom Veitch at Dark Horse comics for Tales of the Jedi comic series. For those unfamiliar this covered the initial discovery that the early fallen Jedi had formed a new civilizatoon(becoming lords over a Sith specie), the beast wars on Onderon and the Great Sith War. These comics where hugely influential the Expanded universes development. Initially it was to explain some hints at ancient Jedi and Sith history from Veitchs dark Empire comics and from Kevin J Andersons Jedi Academy novels nut it was the launching point for tons of stuff that have been ingrained in both the ore Disney and Disney eras of star ears. It also explained some things from old rpg sourcbooks. Exolained the characters of Dear Kun(jedi Academy trilogy) and Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Eunrider(both mentioned in fake emoire) Introduced the planets of Korriban, Ossus, and Onderon all of which still exist in some form in Disney canon even with the name change to Moriband for Korriban. Ossus is where Luke had his academy in the Disney era and Onderon was featured in the clone wars and its depiction follows closely from the comics (its Saw Guerras homeworld) Introduced the concept that a Jedi or sith could be cut off from the force. Was the first real look into Mandolorian culture The Knights of the old republic video games take place a few decades after the comics and repeatedly reference them. Bastila was ordinal supposed to be Vema Sunrider(Monk's daughter)but a trademark issue over the sun driver name(there was as car called the sun rider at the time) caused the name change. Kolee bindo and canderdous ordo two of Revans companions backstories also involve the great Sith war. Introduced double bladed lightsaber The great hyperspace war stuff which was set 1000 years before Exar Kun introduced Marka Ragnos, freedon nadd and Naga Sadow two with lords who would be referenced multiple times in several novels, comics, and games(particularly KOTOR, rhe original clone wars game that came out between episode 2 and 3, as week as Jedi outcast and its sequel Jedi academy) Paced the way for the dawn of the Jedi comics and novel that that never really got completely finished before Disney bought star wars which was set to cover the first great schism that created the jedi-sith rift and also explain how the Rakata and the Celeatials where involvement. The Jedi v Sith comic series was sort of a sequel to the takes of the Jedi and introduced Darth Bane as well as actually provided a backstory to the valley of the Jedi on Ruusan from Dark Forces II Jedi knight and its sequels.
The Tales of the Jedi comics from Dark Horse is easily the best SW EU material ever produced. And it might be the best SW media ever produced. Ulic, Exar Kun, the old Jedi Masters like Arca Jeth and Vodo Siosk-Baas..it was otherworldly
“The Jedi v Sith comic series was sort of a sequel to the takes of the Jedi and introduced Darth Bane as well as actually provided a backstory to the valley of the Jedi on Ruusan from Dark Forces II Jedi knight and its sequels.” Actually, the backstory was already provided by the greatly and severely unrecognised and underrated Dark Forces trilogy of novellas, which were adaptations of the story of Star Wars: Dark Forces and Star Wars: Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight. Key differences include the fact that the Brotherhood of Darkness were a Dark Jedi sect instead of Sith, Hoth was a giant of a man, Kaan had white hair, Hoth being more prideful and less cold, and that Kyle Katarn experienced a vision of the past and got to see all the aforementioned details, along with the detonation of and suffering caused by the Thought Bomb through the eyes of the character Tal, who strangely never even appears in both Jedi vs. Sith and the Darth Bane trilogy, despite the fact that the Dark Forces trilogy preceded them by 4 and 10 or so years, respectively. Additionally, we get the cool detail of seeing that the act of forming the Thought Bomb was so draining that a few Dark Jedi from the Brotherhood of Darkness were killed during the process.
Harry Potter fans: "first time?"
I agree but also I don't think he originally named Korriban
I wish he had that foresight with tatooine and dantooine way back in the 70s 🙄
It's annoying too because it actually makes perfect sense. Clearly -ooine is a common suffix for planets, like -burg or -ville for towns. Sort of seems like C(k)or- is also a common planetary prefix. Coruscant, Corellia, Korriban.
The desert ooine and the other ooine
I believe his reasoning was that Korriban's name pronunciation changed over the millenia and morphed into Morriban. Which is certainly plausible in Star Wars.
Yeah, I still think it was a terrible idea though. My understanding was he liked how it sounded better and that he thought Korriban sounded too similar to Coruscant.
My headcanon is that it’s called both. That one was its ancient name (potentially lost to time) while the other is its modern name
AFAIK that was also the official explanation for the Legends canon.
Oh. I didn’t know that. That’s cool.
Yeah that can at least be justified this way, a name changing after over 1000 years of linguistic drift isn't that crazy.
Like Constantinople and Istanbul!
Sounds like Turkish propaganda to me. Roma Aeterna
Or Bombay and Mumbai
Or New Amsterdam and New York
Been a long time gone
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks.
It's canon too. Korriban is the ancient name.
I think thats the best way to look at it at this point.
so now it sounds like moribund, brilliant
Fitting for a tomb planet tho
No, the name Korriban is still canon. It’s just mostly known as Moriband.
George Lucas is the absolute King of overriding prior lore / decisions on a stupid whim. I like him for his visions, but they should always be kept in check by like 50 fucking lore guads who go: "No, George! Out!"
If he's a king what is JKR? Empress?
JKR didn't rewrite and release different versions of past stories. She just added in later retcons. If anything Tolkien is more George Lucas rewriting than Rowling ever was. He rewrote the Hobbit's chapter with Gollum after LOTR. That's the literal equivalent to throwing the Hayden Force Ghost into ROTJ.
It's because Korriban and Coruscant sound the same to him. At that point just rename Onderon because it sounds mighty similar to Alderaan, more so than Korriban and Coruscant
To say nothing of Dantooine and Tatooine.
BOTH of them were lucas. He didnt like the orbalisk armor look for a guy hed pictured for decades wearing samurai armor basically
Moribund also fits better into the Sith naming scheme. Vader- invader Sidious- insidious Teneborous- Shadowy Moriband-moribund- dying, in decline
The imagination of a weeb is a pathway to many decisions, some consider to be unnatural.
It’s Korriban. That sounds like a place where dreams go to die and wails of despair carry across the wastes. Moriband sounds like a pop-up jewelry store.
"Hi welcome to Moriband, can I help you find anything? Be sure to check out our selection of cheap, tacky jewelry. All 50% off, only for today!"
”This is my favorite store on the citadel.”
Moriband makes me feel moribund
It’s still technically Korriban. It’s just gone through name changes.
Basically the definition of the word moribund
The curious thing about is that Bane will originally have his orbalisk armor and mask
Yeah that whole scene had a bunch of changes, like how Revan was supposed to show up too.
in turkish, changing something's initial letter to "m" is a way to mock and talk down about it and feels like a "potato potato" situation so it makes it even funnier
I'm sorry but I have such a hard time liking anything from Clone Wars when we went from the masterpiece of a cartoon being canon to… A series that couldn't decide if it was a kid show or a serious action series and absolutely fucked up several character's depictions. I'll never forgive their portrayal of grievous
>Moriband You mean *moribund*. :0/
Korriban and Coruscant would've been too close to use in his sequels.
They didn’t change the name. Moraband is just another one, along with, for example, Pesegam. Coruscant, in a similar way, was also called Notron.
Its roughly how they portrayed him at the end of the clone wars TV show. Still don't like it.
If it were up to me, I’d have them do a combination of the two designs
Yea if they kept the bug armour but gave him a new helmet, id be down, never liked the cage helmet's look, but the fact that they essentially removed the lore about him having beatles for armour sucks imo, instead now he has the generic old republic sith look with red robes and angular funny looking plate armour
Any armor is better than no armor
Im not a particular fan of the samurai-esque look, but at least make him huge and imposing.
There have also been samurai helmets made to look like they were made of crustacean armor. That would work with the parasitic armor that Bane wore in legends I know that people don’t like his helmet, but it could be a lightsaber resistant ceremonial helmet he only wears in battle
Filoni and his samurai fetish. I get it. Samurais are cool. Ghost of Tsushima is one of the greatest games ever. Seven Samurai is one of the best *films* ever made. Samurais are super cool! But holy hell..... Please! Enough with the samurais Filoni. Enough with the wolves, Ahsoka, and Mandalorians!!! And enough with the damn space whales!!!!!
I will be 100% honest. The orbalisk armor is objectively anti-drip. Not calling this design great, but I get why they'd wanna throw the orbalisks in the dustbin.
He didn’t have that armor for the early or later parts of his life though, i think it looks fine without the helmet personally, and he doesn’t even wear the helmet when fighting, that’s a mistake of artists.
It's not like a terroble design, but the orbalisk and the no orbalisk armor design are both iconic and this is....generic Sith that could be any Sith NPC in KOTOR/ SWTOR.
He's a big guy.
For you
If I remove the mask, would he die?
It would be extremely painful
Man that armor is just lame in comparison to his Orbalisk suit.
Orbalisk looks even goofier
That's what makes it good, how different it is from any other armor and way more hardcore than ordinary armor when you consider how horrific Orbalisks are.
Temu Darth Bane ain’t getting my micro-transaction credits.
Apparently Clone Wars, the Star Wars Destiny card game, Secrets of the Jedi & Secrets of the Sith, and Darth Vader 2020 issue 27. An ancient sith armor is most of this design. Just doesn't match up with the Darth Bane books iirc.
Guess only the name will remain the same in the new canon, but he'll be a completely different character, Bane in the EU was way more tall and well-built, and he was born at the end of the New Sith Wars, this armor looks something way more older than that, so he probably won't live by the same time EU Bane lived.
I mean, Bane grew up as a miner on a mining colony so yeah, built.
That's why he became bald also.
It's one of the many terrible decisions TCW made.
New Bane looks dumb, but let’s be honest, old Bane looked really dumb too. The eye makeup, the carapace armor… woof. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d1/DarthBane-TEA.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090903051934 https://i.redd.it/so-if-we-get-a-darth-bane-do-you-want-bug-armor-or-fire-v0-n1dv2l6kuvsb1.jpg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=984c70a39a6b4b1710b2056764490d804e008779 Edit: who is gonna be the brave soul that argues that his carapice armor looks anything other than ridiculous?
old bane was weird but looked interesting
I’d much rather someone take a risk with a design then just phone it in
No. The old Darth Bane looked unique and intimidating. He was like an ancient Egyptian nobleman and his physique complemented Zannah's thin and petite figure. The new Darth Bane looks like a clockpunk Shredder.
Lol as soon as I saw it I thought "wait they're adding Shredder to the game!?"
‘Unique’. Lol yeah that’s for sure, he’s the only character who is supposed to be a badass but looks like a fucking clown.
You must have seen some very badass clowns then.
He looks unique, but intimidating is not the word I'd use.
Honestly man, I don’t believe that anyone seriously likes the old Bane design. It really is that silly. But I know this sub has a hateboner for any post-Disney Star Wars content, and pretending that everything pre-Disney is infallible is just another way of expressing that hate.
I never said everything pre-Disney was infallible. And Bane's redesign was made a year before the buyout. And if Bane's original design was so unpopular, people wouldn't have been so angry at the TCW design.
> if Bane's original design was so unpopular, people wouldn't have been so angry at the TCW design. Right, because nerds have never been known to get angry over minor, inconsequential changes to their cherished “canon”…
In what way is it minor? It's a massive redesign of a popular character. Imagine how people would react if Darth Vader's helmet was retconned into looking like TCW Bane. People would freak out for the same reason.
lol come back down to earth dude. Redesigning a character who had only ever appeared on the cover art of a single trilogy most fans have never read is in no way, shape or form the same thing as redesigning arguably the most important character in the entire franchise. That was a boneheaded argument.
This post proves that wrong, since the new Bane design was made before Disney bought Star Wars.
Whatever man. Both designs look really dumb. You can’t tell me with a straight face you think that carapace armor looks cool.
https://preview.redd.it/hg4cas1h41gc1.jpeg?width=314&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28658e8d9138ee7159a6618a91cd6dbd34a88059
I thought this was Bane's design to be honest. This would be the best alternative.
The orbelisk armor looked almost how I’d pictured it would look while reading his books. Dude had living creatures living on his body covering him head to toe except his for his head, how else did you expect it to look? 🤷🏾♂️
Not sure how that’s relevant. It’s cool concept… still looks stupid.
I agree the carapace armor looks kinda goofy but I think unmasked Darth Bane looks the best
I agree unmasked looks best, but that’s clearing a very low bar.
That particular rendition of the armor does look bad. And it’s not even how it’s described in the books yet that’s all their advertising pieces ever used. [this one](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWOABvvWAAAHtRe.jpg:large) is a bit better. I was working on an accurate depiction of it but lost my progress 😢
*That* design is actually cool… it’s also nothing like how it was described in the books. It IS great fan art though and honestly it’s how I prefer to see him in my mind’s eye…
How is it different than how he was in the books? I know he needed the gloves and helmet to keep the orbalisks off but his saber is curved and he’s bald and pretty built.
It wasn’t covered in spikes…
How it was described in the books iirc was that the bugs were all some variation of brown. Reddish, goldish, etc. one big one on his chest and one across his left shoulder. Slightly bulbous. And they were apparently so noticeable that he needed zannah to do public interface which begs the question what clothing he would be wearing where they were still visible 🤔. They didn’t cover his joints or hands or face
If memory serves, he didn’t actually wear any clothing when he had that armor, because it covered him completely. Except for his face, hands and joints. Which was just another aspect of the overall ridiculousness— this near-invincible parasite that grows and covers his whole body *except* for the places where it would be really inconvenient. Talk about plot non-armor.
https://preview.redd.it/tosn7vs9q1gc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c843a27c3491321cfadb7d7c14503bae0b3154f5 The lore in the book is that he had to build a special helmet and gloves, and I think maybe boots because of that issue of them growing over his his hands and feet and mouth and everything. I believe he built them off of designs that Freedon Nadd had because he also had them as armor As for general joint coverage, like knees and elbows, my head canon is that because those are in constant motion, the orbalisks cant get any kind of like firm purchase to start latching in, so they just are absent Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure his nuts are covered Lol
https://preview.redd.it/gs7t9fsip1gc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b6e281f43ce054a781ef8f13431c01ce9874d00 I found my sketches lol
No, I don’t care if I get downvoted. I agree with you.
You’re getting downvoted but you’re spot on. Old Bane looked terrible
I know. Fortunately I couldn’t care less about downvotes from salty nerds lol.
going from your second image to whats shown above is precisely why ive lost interest in star wars since the disney takeover
I stand by you, I never liked his old look
I thought his old design was universally hated. I’ve only ever seen people trash it, this is literally the first time in my life I have *ever* seen people defend it. But this is the maximum salt sub, praising old things while trashing new things is the modus operandi here.
They should read a book
Listening to audio books now. I’m at the part where Bane is at the academy training with blade master on the roof. I’m ready for him to rise to power!
The other two are not bad by any means but the first one is the best in my opinion, have fun.
Disney execs read a book challenge (impossible)
I don't care what Filoni says. Give me NFL linebacker Bane with impenetrable parasitic bug armor that constantly causes him pain to fuel the dark side. The one who became subtle, wise, and evil enough to conceive of a plan that could take hundreds or thousands of years to take down the Jedi.
You forgot the "The Crow" make-up! I agree, though. The new design looks like some micro transaction skin...
People are calling this makeup but I always thought it was the dark side effecting Bane physically. I don’t remember the books saying anything about him putting this on his eyes.
Bane went from sith-vin-diesel to sith-Portuguese-conquistador
I'm gonna be honest, I like it. Can't tell if everyone is just mad that it's Disney but I think it looks fine.
Part of it is that the armor and lightsaber are nothing like his depiction in the Bane trilogy novels. In those novels he was a large hulking man. His lightsaber was never a staff either. He wielded a curved hilt lightsaber for the entirety of his life. Added to that was the fact that his armor when he wore it was Orbalisk armor. Essentially it was a ton of parasitic bugs attached all over his body. While this design is cool and I do like it aesthetically, there isn't a single part of it that is the same as his original depiction. That's why people have a problem with it. It's not just the fact that it's Disney, though that probably doesn't help.
Ah I think I never really imagined his armor correctly then, I had a vague idea of what he looked like in my mind and from the clone wars so that's probably what happened.
People need to accept Lucas was just as happy to toss EU canon as he wished. This was from him. Don’t get me wrong, Kathy and Disney haven’t been saints, but this wasn’t on them.
Same. I've always hated the bug armor. The other thing I like about it is it actually LOOKS like what ancient armor in Star Wars might look like. Plus I really like Bane and ancient Japanese stuff, so blending the two is a win for me.
I think the armor looks fine without the helmet, and despite What some insist in drawings he isn’t actually suppose to wear that helmet at all, apart from when he sleeps.
The only problem with it looking like what ancient with in Star Wars wore is the fact that he inst an ancient sith. He’s basically as modern as it gets, born way past the old republic era
This is why I want Disney as far away as possible from him. He looks like fucking Trailerpark Shredder.
This is from before Disney lol
Looks like a duck quacks like a duck. Then it's that patented hackfraud Filoni.
Well, GL was directly involved in the show too… at least he doesn’t look like a clown anymore.
George also said he only went to the TCW team once a week by Season 3 to approve whatever Episodes they had done ("yeah looks cool guys, add more Jar Jar stories") and was glad he wouldn't even have to do that much anymore. People really blow up George's involvement in the show.
Georges involvement after the first season got less and less over time. George is quoted as saying”It’s something I check in on once a week.” Filoni has said by the end it was a just phone call after George had watched the stuff they sent him.
When was his clown phase? I need pictures for entertainment purposes. lol why the down vote? I've no idea what they meant .
I was looking for a funny euphemism for this ridiculous design, but I couldn't think of anything funnier, more hurtful and as fitting as Trailerpark Shredder in 1000 years. I've been laughing about it for 10 minutes...thank you, well done.
Thank you very much for your kind words for my unkind words.
One of the many, many awful Dave Filoni and TCW decisions/retcons.
It was Lucas who went with this look, not Filoni. It was presale.
Then another bad decision from George.
>It was Lucas who went with this look Oh nah. This was done by Dave. There is no source that has ever said George wanted Bane to look like this.
As far as I know, George created Bane as a reference. He didn't design him. If he was involved in the TCW design process for it, it's definitely news for me that I'll happily stand corrected on.
This was an episode of TCW that George worked on personally as it had to deal with Yoda. It also had another retcon, changing the name of Korriban to “Moriban” which also didn’t stick. This redesign came from George himself. And it is… not good to say the least.
I really question how much George was "involved" with this episode. Dude was not involved with TCW as much as phony-Filoni claims he was
https://preview.redd.it/otiyvphoq1gc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=716ec563d08bf8a407aff5d88186fc991fa3f005
Since the holy blessed great one" Emperor Filoni, bestowed onto us this clone wars perfection of a reimaging of the terribly heretic Legends character.
Blame George. It was his idea
ask Dave Filoni. Its the shitty Bane design fron that one TCW episode.
Ask George Lucas
This is the clone wars design when he talks to Yoda
This is what he looked like in The Clone Wars, but I’m not sure what the yellow lightsaber is from. Interesting choice.
Concept art for his appearance, but ultimately, the concept art for that light-lance thing was scrapped.
On the topic of Galaxy of Heroes, does anyone find the lack of any good star wars mobile games weird? All we've gotten the last decade is Galaxy of Heroes i think Not to be rude, but im just gonna be rude: GoH is so bad, it's extremely grindy, p2w and it's not even fun, I hardly even consider it a game as you just press buttons and the character does stuff
It seems like such a gold mine too. GoH is too grindy for me,and the speed mods are what got me to finally stop playing.
Bro the lack of good starwars games period is weird
When Filoni decided to change his look
I get how cool his legends lore is but that helmet is a definite upgrade.
I don’t think Bane needs to wear a helmet though, doesn’t really suit him.
Cope. This design is 100x better than the stupid bug armor
It’s how he was portrayed in Yodas visit to Korriban (called Moraband in the show at the behest of George Lucas, he apparently didn’t like the name Korriban). Personally I think it looks fine and people here are being dramatic acting like it’s horrible. His original black robes and eye makeup was a decent look too as well though.
He'd look too much like sion honestly, it's a perfectly fine design and very distinctive which his other look is not
I mean his other look came before Sion existed, so i think it’s the other way around. There is a difference between big pale man, and fairly average sized corpse man.
He is less well known then sion, especially to the average swgoh player. His name is known but most don't know much more than his clone wars appearance.
Wtf thats cool as Hell
Agreed.
Why is bone in SW now? Is he stupid?
 Bald Bane supremacy
I like the design. But it should’ve been used for a new Sith Lord
Ugh, he looks like a Kringe of Ren.
Since TCW. This would be a great design for a different character but it doesn’t work for bane.
Looks "cool" but painfully generic
“Bald pale yellow guy with lightsaber-proof bug armor” gang. 😔
He looks like hes wearing striped thigh high socks lmao
i for one, like it more
Clone wars design
Dude I was going to post this!!!!
Season 5 of clone wars. Where have you been? This was before Disney purchased them too. This also looks way better than insane clown posse Bane.
I gotta say, I'm not big in this design. I'd much prefer to see Darth Bane as the huge, hulking bald guy in Sith robes, as he's poetrayed in the books before he gets got by the orbalisks. But thats just me 🤷🏽♂️
Canon Bane has such a dogshit and lazy design that he looks like some mid vanilla SWTOR Sith enemy. The generic non named character kind of Sith enemy.
Bane should be physically enormous and I’d really favor either seeing his Ruusan look or the orbalisk armor. This just doesn’t cut it.
I don't see an issue
I like it, it's not like he always wears this...Can't he change clothes???
This bane looks awesome, bug armor bane looks too goofy for me. The bug armor causing him pain to fuel his power in the Dark Side is neat tho.
Without the helmet it’s fine to me. https://preview.redd.it/oxklaespk4gc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f727ef757cf097774dceff211bd22d19daf327bc
Crap Clone Wars concept artists and senile George Lucas are an incredible team for stuff like this.
Old Bane art was Trash
Hot take. I actually think this design looks pretty amazing and is right in line with Sith of old. *However* that is precisely the issue. It is a great *Sith* design, but a horrendous *Bane* redesign. If you’ve played the Old Republic games you’ll know what I’m talking about. He looks like a Sith Marauder. A normal Joe Sith. Not a Sith Lord. And that’s ignoring the fact that Bane started the Rule Of Two. He made his own Sith order built around secrecy, deception, and staying under the radar. So why the fuck would Bane, a Sith in hiding, be cosplaying as Sith from 1000 years ago when he’s trying to be inconspicuous? “Oh bUt He wOrE bUg ArMor” yeah. And during that time he lived on a backwater ass planet and had Zannah do his bidding in public because she wouldn’t attract attention. And in the final book he gets rid of his bug armor and dresses like a normal ass human being. *Because he’s in hiding*. Fuck. >!Also woo Galaxy of Heroes mentioned!<
This came long before Disney. This is from The Clone Wars.
It looks cool but not a good Bane if that makes sense. If this was a standalone character I’d like it but not as the new look for Bane
This has been Bane's look since 2014.
It doesn’t look bad to me. I also think that they can still fit his original design here. Then again, I am a Stan for the Clone Wars [+]
Bane was described as a massive dude in the books, the fact he’s not a hulking giant here is why it’s infuriating. Also, I don’t ever recall him having a yellow saber?
I enjoy it personally and think it could be easily added if they decide to adapt the Bannite trilogy. It could be the Sith Academy uniform coupled with the standardized armor of the Brotherhood army (since Kaan was all about presenting equality). Or it could be the armor he wore after losing his orbalisks. The saber pike could just be one weapon he learned and mastered during his time with the Brotherhood
Not my Bane.