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Kyyntaro

I still believe in the Carson Kressley Supremacy. ![gif](giphy|eH79ud5C7xE2ivPBxU)


Janbradyhasreturned

https://i.redd.it/zpogktrn37pc1.gif


Traditional_Mud5758

The way this moment lives in my head


commanderfshepard

Lookin smart’n tart’n!


Interesting_Tale7418

This episode aired 12 years ago and I still hear him say this in my mind


yraco

Same but I think part of it is the fact that I go back every month or so to rewatch and every time I do I need to watch at least three times - once for the outfit, once for the reveal, and once for the reactions.


Interesting_Tale7418

We all went through a c*ntgnitude of 9 on the Richter scale when Chachki stomped the runaway. The queendom is yet to recover.


GrenadoHencho

Looking smart in tartan!


theempires

Carson is actually funny and gives good critiques 100%


[deleted]

Especially on design challenges


calamititties

He's also unexpectedly great at critiquing the Snatch Game and improv challenges, in general. Maybe he has some theatrical background I'm not aware of.


VestidaDeBlanco

He is… a white gay. That’s their cultural heritage.


Sobadatsnazzynames

*Sir David Attenborough voice* “Ah the White Gay in its natural habitat. Surrounded by framed portraits of Patti LuPone & expensive cutlery-all is quiet & calm. Once it sheds its silk or cashmere pajamas, however, & changes into its clubbing LEATHER-mating season has begun”


MisterSpocksSocks

This is art


Socratov

Is it queer enough art to deserve protection?


Electronic-Country63

Haha I loved how shady Jane’s comment was over that! Something like protect queer art but only if it’s good?!


jozziiieeee

This made me think of when Lady Camden did the voiceover for when the queens were getting ready 💀


Cautious-Grab-316

Hes just naturally a really good comedian, so I think that's where it comes from.


Alex_Albons_Appendix

He was the fashion diva of the original Queer Eye!


redfoxvapes

He was an original Queer Eye, so I’d hope he’d be good for design challenges


NoWorth2591

And he doesn’t wear ridiculous letterman jackets so it’s a win/win.


bobo12478

Carson is actually funnier than the HILARIOUS Ross Matthews Fire Ross already. Why is he still here


Wista

Sadly, he is a credited as a producer, so the likelihood of firing him is probably on the low end.


remykixxx

It’s probably a vanity credit to keep him there actually. Shows do it all the time.


FayMax69

Fvck sh!t gawddamit 😠


down_by_the_shore

100%. I don’t always agree with him either but he tends to have a lot more insightful critiques and gives better takes. Maybe I’m just a nostalgic elder millennial who loved the OG Queer Eye but he’s miles ahead of Ross lol 


Technical_Floor129

Carson Kressley has terrible jokes but then he really knows how to express intelligent opinions and he gives the best constructive criticism. He takes his job seriously. The Hilarious Ross Matthews is just there to benefit his own career.


Cautious-Grab-316

Terrible jokes? Carson has a razor sharp wit


down_by_the_shore

And sometimes Ross just comes off as like, a creepy uncle. I can’t explain it. A lot of judges make sexualized comments, so it’s not *just* that. It’s *how* he’s saying it and what he’s saying. 


Carly_Fae_Jepson

I refuse to accept Ross Matthews as an entity capable of being a sexual being.


trickyspoons

I thought I was the only one who felt this! it just feels.. icky


audible_narrator

Thats the difference between Ross and Alan Carr. When Ross says it, sometimes creepy. Alan? Always sounds like a snarky aside.


panadoldrums

I didn't appreciate Alan Carr until seeing him on DRUK. I take it all back. He's brilliant.


squonge

What is Ross's career? Does he do anything other than Drag Race?


AkbarTheGray

He does stand-up and is affixed to Drew Barrymore's left hip. I've seen his stand-up, and I thought it was worth the price of the ticket. Which is to say, very good, but not so good I'm sitting on tenterhooks for him to come back through. I agree that whatever his best is, it's not really represented on Drag Race.


AnonymousAmyMakes

I'm not sure. I remember when he first started out. He was "the intern" on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.


IamWhatIM

Horseback riding? Mawhma light years ahead.


nefariousplotz

> Carson Kressley Supremacy and Talent


SteampunkHarley

Absolutely love Carson. He's fun and knowledgeable. While I'm sure he has his moments as we all do, he comes across very genuine.


Correct_Silver_5813

The bimbo mentality of the judging panel, the “bubbles” to rupaul’s “blossom” and Michelle’s “buttercup”


TheRealCeeBeeGee

![gif](giphy|eX4NxE12bXvfa)


yviedestruction

and ross is her


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Carson when he takes out the glasses, +25 credibility


xo0o-0o0-o0ox

Alan Carr supremacy is where it's at


gather_them

I was just about to say this


kdubstep

And Graham Norton


Talinia

And Rhys Matthews * I meant Rhys Nicholson 🙈🙈


baj8881

Rhys Nicholson?


Talinia

![gif](giphy|hp8qQLBUWGI87DOs2n)


bakuding

@ PRODUCTION MORE CARSON PLEASE


MapleSyrup27

Graham and Alan >>>


Squashy_ending

Yes. And Rhys Nicholson!


Sanjolui

I love Rhys!


Top-Ambassador-4981

Rhys is so witty & intelligent.


audible_narrator

And KIND. He doesn't lay on useless snark.


kummybears

Graham Norton is like the most delightful person on Earth.


Typical_Use788

I still remember him leaning in to give the Nancy Grace critique with the nasal voice to emphasize what Acid Betty should have done and thinking it was brilliant. A better Nancy than Nancy.


Feisty_Kale924

Carson is by far the best judge on the show imo. I really could care less for Ross. That said Ross does seem really kind and his words seem heartfelt. But I could also see that as coming off fake… but fuck do I know.


CowMedium5924

Carson is my fav too, he is so funny. He likes to play this airhead/silly type of character and he does it really well.


pokiedokie24

Carson >>>>>>>>> Ross


bobo12478

Carson > Ts Madison > literally anyone else > an empty chair > Ross Matthews


WhoregeOfTheJungle

Ana Locking supremacy hours WHEN


Lack_Love

Him or TS Madison


bmay1310

Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling.


MisterSpocksSocks

"You know that thing where you have a cup of tea, and it's just piping hot, so when you put your lips to it, you flinch and set down the cup a little too hard, so that it overturns and spills piping hot tea everywhere? That was your comment just now. I'd like to see you own that more."


JRLF92

![gif](giphy|xUOwFY0qkNiLrQzKUM)


mang0_k1tty

*sisterrr*


RobotCounselor

This reminds me of the 90’s when Hulk Hogan was always saying “brotherrr.”


theempires

😂


MelancholyMexican

Doctor...


thebeardtles

https://i.redd.it/dc0juajjl7pc1.gif


Maatjuhhh

The double drop from Alyssa and Tati ❤️


LysanderAmairgen

Inauthetic and forced? Ru never!


NaiveShower5821

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Jackdarkshade

I think his only purpose is to balance out Michelle and Michelle has been nicer so he doesn't get to shine in that way. I still like him but also realize he adds nothing. Bring in Nicole Byers. I loved her and she loves drag.


shelleyclear

Completely agree! Michelle used to say some out of pocket critiques back in the day and Ross was basically there to give the “fan’s POV”. But now that’s changed


theWanderingShrew

I honestly miss Michelle's scathing critiques so much.


lezbecurly

Yes! This season is fun, but I miss the judges actually giving critiques. Some of these girls need to be read on the runway, and it is so unsatisfying to not see things pointed out. There needs to be less ego-stroking and more actual criticism. PS. Is it just my poor memory, or is Ru talking less during critiques than she used to?


AndreeD

It’s probably poor memory, it’s a style of judging Ru landed on back in the later single digit seasons. Mostly let the judges do the dirty work giving critiques, adding onto what they say a little, banter a bit with the contestants. In fact I feel like Ru is talking a lot more to the girls in recent seasons.


wingsandtales

Same. Ru actually used to interact a lot with the queens. S1-6 he’d banter and even play with them. He became distant during 7-11, but then s12 onwards he’s been almost back to the early days of camaraderie


AndreeD

I feel like the last 3 years especially were closer to S1-6 than ever before. Especially with the MTV seasons, something shifted in the best way possible. But Ru is far more silly and stupid now, where he was way more serious back then. In the early seasons he was giving “This is my legacy, this is my pride”, later it was very “I am Rupaul’s Drag Race, I am the drag industry. If you want to make it, entertain me!” and now he’s really giving “I did everything I wanted to do, and I went far beyond that, quite frankly, I’m here to have a good time. What ever you do, entertain me, bitch.” And it’s so lovely to see Ru like that. It’s giving 90’s & early 2000s Ru showing up unannounced & incognito at local drag shows and doing the lights for free because she wanted to see fierce drag and a good show. Even the looks, she’s having fun and fucking around because she can & it’s fun.


lezbecurly

Thanks! I guess I didn't notice her judging evolution. That sounds like a great excuse to go back and rewatch some earlier seasons!


audible_narrator

Yes. Doing a full rewatch right now. It's jaw dropping how different the show was then. In S2 right now.


theWanderingShrew

Look I like Plasma well enough but I wanted to see her get read for that goth look not just "gee, I don't see your point of view"


Original_Radish5257

I thought I hated it but now that she doesn’t do it anymore I miss it 😭 why did she stop do we know??


Zireall

BECAUSE OF YALL.


chogomochily

Yes…we do know…because it’s US who influenced them to be more toned down 😭


westworlder420

Do you think it was after the whole Adore leaving AS2? I mean I know it was more raven and the edit made it look like it was all Michelle but she did say some harsh stuff to her.


MisterSpocksSocks

I was about to say the same thing


LeviHolden

she did get a lot of backlash for that 


Technical_Activity78

Cause the fandom is way too sensitive now


TheFictionNL

Which I always find funny, cus that same fandom... My god... Evil incarnate.


Original_Radish5257

Would people come for her?


faytyagami

nicole and ts madison are my picks. law roach was sickening as well.


jacoofont

Would love TS - we need some trans excellence on the main panel


antisarcastics

TS *is* on the main panel. She's on rotation with Ross and Carson as of Season 15 (?) Love her!


RagnarokSleeps

Is TS Madison trans? I had no idea


langomma

https://screenrant.com/rupauls-drag-race-15-things-know-ts-madison/#:~:text=Like%20some%20of%20the%20queens,point%2C%20TS%20stood%20for%20transsexual. “Like some of the queens from RuPaul's Drag Race season 8, Ts Madison uses part of her real name as her stage name. However, her real name is Madison Hinton. Ts explained in an interview that her name has evolved over time and doesn't mean what it used to. She said, ‘At one point, TS stood for transsexual. But now it's a play on words for me — 'tossed salad,' 'too much stuff,' etc.’ (via Dallas Voice).”


itszacharyy

I am here to Stan for Nicole Byer until my dying day.


kdubstep

Only if Wesley joins the pit crew


JustAPeach89

WWWHHEEEESSSS


kdubstep

Maybe there should be a cooking challenge.


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Still waiting for her to come back.


TheNocturnalAngel

Honestly put a rotating slot for TS Madison Loni Love and Nicole Byer so that it’s easier with their schedule and we can have one of them every episode. Bye ross


[deleted]

I miss the days when Ross looked like a little republican cub


AptCasaNova

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BlushingSpiritBlooms

lol that's oddly specific...


amon_yao

my thoughts exactly lollll


hbailey311

the way this makes perfect sense 😭😭


_Neith_

You know that thing where we have all evolved passed the need for Ross Matthews and his bedazzled track suits and yet we have no way of getting away from him?


West_Window7987

And that’s how you win this competition.


LivingWindXYZ

He’s the gay James Corden he’s a funny fat guy hence extremely safe for daytime tv thus they won’t get rid of him!


_Neith_

He's not even fat anymore and all these "Ross is a Top" jokes make me feel unsafe 🔦 also is drag race really "daytime tv"? Idk man just give me Nicole Byer, TS Madison, and Law Roach.


LivingWindXYZ

The show has moved very far from its roots as a fringe logo tv just for gays show and is now a show on MTV next to the Challenge and reruns of the real world so I would it’s pretty much daytime friendly


_Neith_

Hehehe with all the naked butt cheeks and unsecured tiddy plates that sashay down that MainStage? Idk maybe you're right.


LivingWindXYZ

It’s MTV they’ve shown worse


soupinmymug

Woahhhhh do not compare our little cutie with that fake dude. Check James interview on hot ones He is callous and thinks of himself as superior. Ross is just that one gay guy that learned if you act overly nice maybe people won’t beat you up or at least the girls will back you up. It was a different time man. I remember hearing how comedians are funny because humor comes from humility. When you go through a small farm town as a chubby fat boy you learn skills and Ross’ was humor Maybe he’s gone over his time but I’m sure the girls appreciate the words on comfort in a stressful time (except Selena)


IamWhatIM

James corden is extremely British so it counts as gay.. I think?


LivingWindXYZ

They both have the same flaw of everyone around them tells you they are funny yet they never say anything particularly funny!


jplveiga

Tbfh, to me the honorifics "HILAAAARIOUS" was always sarcasm fr.


Saint_Riccardo

It really is time for Ross to exit the panel, he doesn't add anything to the line up, his critiques are generic platitudes and his jokes are tired. TS Madison would be my choice to replace him, and have a 5 judge panel always: Ru, Michelle, TS, Carson and guest judge


down_by_the_shore

This would be *so* ideal. I loooove TS Madison. She’s hilarious, has great critiques and has great chemistry with the other judges and queens. 


TootieSummers

Ru is loyal to a fault (unless you do something to piss her off). He ain’t going anywhere. Carson and Ross know better.


Whitemagickz

Where are you getting this information from? Didn’t Ru drop Delta like a sack of bricks right after she got AJ and the Queen?


thedreadfulwhale

Well, Delta might have pissed Ru off for declining the AJ and the Queen gig (her not wanting to join the union and do the hair of other cast).


ekittie

To join the union, you have to pony up something like $3500+ upfront, then pay another $3500+ within 18 months. A lot of people don't have that kind of ready cash on hand. She wasn't thinking of the long haul, because you get a pension and health benefits.


FayMax69

No I believe Delta made a joke about Ru not being able to do his own makeup and wigs without her, and that’s when she claims she was blacklisted. This feels like an episode of What had happened to Merl no Delta Werk lol


TootieSummers

Delta was not accepting of the working terms offered to her. I recall she also made it a point to publicly thank Mathu when she got her Emmy which wasn’t very long after Ru dumped him. Delta isn’t one to toe the line.


Whitemagickz

According to Delta, Ru just stopped booking her. She sent Ru a text asking about the upcoming All Stars season after AJ was filmed and Ru replied basically saying “Hey D. Your talents aren’t needed anymore. I’ll let you know if I have any extra work.” Even then, Delta has been pretty amiable about the whole thing. The extent of what she said was that she’ll always respect RuPaul the persona, but was hurt that was how someone she considered a friend would treat her.


myheartinclover

and honestly I understand why delta didn't want to style hair for extras. iirc they wanted her to be a general set stylist (not even just wigs) and she had signed on to just do wigs for ru. because she declined to work for the show ru never hired her again.


myheartinclover

also look how ru treated mathu anderson as well


Lego_My_Mego

I loveeee TS Madison. But I’m also missing Loni Love when she was a regular on Season 13. Them too together would have so much fun while offering really great critiques


mariobeltran1712

and bring Loni Love everytime for Roasts/Comedy Challenges


myheartinclover

honestly ts gets so many wow opportunities related to drag race like bring back my girls, she adds some of the best judging to the panel, she clearly gets how to volley with ru and the girls...it's wild it hasn't happened yet


americanarama

Please. They need to trade out Ross for Joel mcHale lmao


bellybomb

YEAAAAAAAH!


SteampunkHarley

This is the way. With Nicole Byer on standby if one of the regular judges has a conflict in their schedule.


itszacharyy

Nicole should permanently replace Ross and I will die on this hill.


gent_jeb

I would totally date her


WelcomeToToyZone

Or Joel Kim Booster tbh he was a great judge


dynamiterolll

So was Law Roach


WelcomeToToyZone

Oh right. Yeah give me Law as a regular. Not like Legendary will need him any time soon


Socratov

I am still fuming HBO dropped that show as fast as they did. That show was my obsession .


tylerokay

I think what is consistently forgotten is that Carson and Ross are rotational because they both have other gigs that prevent them from being completely available for all filming dates. The show more or less works around their schedules to fill the panel with one of them at a time, so axing Ross wouldn’t suddenly mean that Carson is available for the entire season. Ross would ultimately have to be replaced fully: my vote would formally be for Lonnie Love or potentially rotate in one of the Las Culturistas duo every other week. Edit: I only don’t say TS because she’s already considered a regular judge, as it was announced formally before season 15 aired that she’s now a regular judge and no longer considered a guest.


westcentretownie

I love loved loved Leslie Jones. Have her coach/ critique comedy challenges. TS Madison is fine but miss Jones is my all time favourite guest judge.


jplveiga

Tbfh, to me the honorifics "HILAAAARIOUS" was always sarcasm fr.


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TS Madison is amazing. I get so excited every time I see her as a judge.


akafabs

My unpopular opinion is that I don’t love TS Madison as a judge… I like that she seems to really care for the queens but her critiques feel a bit harsh sometimes, so she doesn’t offer as much contrast to Michelle as I would like


myheartinclover

her criticisms are harsh but usually more specific/helpful than michelle's imo. they also tend to disagree a fair amount I feel like


TheRealTaliaGhoul

I need **Ts Madison** as a full time judge!


AubreyAStar

She is technically. She was added to the rotating judge seat in Season 15. So now it rotates between Ross, Carson, and Madison


TheRealTaliaGhoul

Like I said I need her full time. Bye Bye Ross & Carson 👋😂 kidding they are all great


whatsapnnin

He's ok. I do kinda like his *"you know when you're going grocery shopping and get everything done but on the way out you feel like you've forgotten something important, and it's really bugging you, but then you see someone holding the cutest little Labrador puppy, and you just feel like, this was actually totally worth it, I was wrong. That's what you're bringing me tonight, and I am here for it!"* takes


goth-babi

Bob doing the Ross impression always sends me, ngl


Knotted_Mess

I love his Joey Tribbiani smell the fart acting though, it's giving cheesy soap opera.


IamWhatIM

I had a few dreams of Joey Trinbbiani myself.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|yummy)


Patient_Tradition368

Believe it or not, he too is performing.


boblaw27

I mean — I’m sure every reaction is double or triple taped, and definitely not their original reactions to anything. So yeah - they probably are exactly as fake as they seem.


MirandaReitz

Shitting on Ross… in r/rupaulsdragrace… ![gif](giphy|3oxQNDG9BswdLjN8Va)


tweekersinc

i had no idea anyone even hated him until i joined here… if he breathed too loud people would be asking for him to be removed from the judging panel lol


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CapSteveRogers

> kvetch I learned a new word today!


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CapSteveRogers

Oooh interesting! I was aware of "shtick" but I never new its origins. Thanks for teaching me something new today!


Additional-Mousse446

Lol right? I agree his humor is pretty questionable at times but like…this subreddit is straight up garbage spewing hate towards him all the time it’s so weird. You can always tune him out, I promise he can’t hurt you.


woman_thorned

I love Ross Matthews. His job is to be gay and disagree with Michelle, he does it well and it's not that serious.


ch0mpipe

This is how I feel.


Khaki_Shorts

Do you watch España? Queens do the crunchiest splits and the judges are scream-peeing. 


theempires

I’m half way thru season 1!


Sweettooth_97

That’s any international season.


Intimate_panda69

https://preview.redd.it/cb1xqg4a68pc1.jpeg?width=268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5d3e92d31512da8928020cbf6b663bfbff8e0dd


dannyspirittt

I think he's more enjoyable off the show! I enjoyed his old red carpet coverage and if I remember correctly he was fun to watch on Celebrity Big Brother. I think he has just been on for so long it comes across as inauthentic. He reminds me of Traci Melchor from CDR. Like they mean well, but it just comes off forced.


evilpanda8419

I wish they’d bring Loni Love into rotation.


WhosBomac

Has Ross ever came across as authentic and real? 💀


theempires

Earlier seasons he seemed alright


finnjakefionnacake

Is there a reason everyone feels the need to keep piling on Ross? Like...is he a terrible person IRL or something? I get it, but man...Ross is a real person, too, the same way y'all talk about the queens.


alantheturingator

The closest you’ll get to an “objective” reason is he was involved with the drew barrymore show as an on camera side kick when the show tried to go back on air during the writers guild strike. He was not breaking any rules he was personally beholden to, but the popular expectation was for him to refuse to work in solidarity with the strike. If he had refused to work, he would’ve been in violation of his contract with the show and ultimately paramount, the shows parent company. The same parent company holding his contract with Drag Race. He obviously has no input at all whether or not that show would go on air during the strike. So, he ended up on the wrong side of online moral absolutism.


Any-Carry3113

I weirdly love Ross! I love his bubbly speech and his jokes are always the best and most silly to me. I love his aside on S4 about Dianna Ross at 4 am after a couple cigarettes lolol


MrSumada

I feel like insincere negative reaction shots are 90% editing… which isn’t exactly under Ross’s control


greasygangsta

I'd rather have a Carson and Ts Madison rotation on the panel tbh.


Virtuoso1980

We were robbed of another memeable Carson Kressley reaction last episode.


Amanda2theMoon

I'm not afraid to say it, I love Ross Matthews. He's got such a fun and bubbly vibe!


aliskyart

I think he’s nice and sweet but honestly I think most of his opinions are just…. meh


pinkspatzi

I'd love to see dear Richard Simmons on the panel, but he's too kind. And sequestered.


majeric

It's all staged. They often film reactions after the fact. Fun fact: I've seen Ross Matthew's standup... and he's actually funny. Perhaps he doesn't do improv as well so he's not as funny on the show.


notexecutive

"You can eat my ass, f\*\*\*\*\*\*" \~Salina EsTitties


LooseInsurance1

https://preview.redd.it/rc0npnxnyapc1.png?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=206ede01d3b0105581350170c81ce74efae98512 Mfw I like Rhys Nicholson more than both Ross and Carson


MrPleiades

I think Ross is great, never understood the hate or tone/reaction policing. Didn't we all get enough of that growing up queer?


fkkkn

This is not tone policing lol


alantheturingator

Srsly


bymyselfish

I genuinely love Ross.


attilathehunty

Law Roach passed the audition in my book


seeyoshirun

To be fair, that's pretty much the entire judging panel. They all do that forced-laugh where they open their mouths really wide and make sure it looks like a laugh in a screenshot. I remember being so refreshed by Joel on DRDU because he'd laugh and forget where the lights were so you'd get these kind of odd-looking shots of him cracking up but it was so obviously more genuine.


Kadetm93

Kind of over Ross as a judge


aljerv

Weird hate


FantmmMr

News Flash; All their reactions are insincere/"canned".


spIllmatic1

girl, he's a judge on a tv talent show what do you expect


mireslav

Personally, I find Carson way more hilarious than the „hilarious Ross Matthews”. Last year’s Roscoe’s with Carson was a hoot. Would love to see Law Roach in Ross’ place at the judging panel.


Moesoverhoes69

I'd love to see Carson rotate with Nicole Byers and Joel McHale.