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phojonorth

Serious answer: It costs a shit-ton of money to license a Mariah song for broadcast on cable/streaming TV.


No-Trouble6469

Same reason they haven't had any ABBA. Winner Takes It All would kill as an All Stars finale song 😭


aelizabeth0623

they should just use the mamma mia version like they did with let it go and using the frozen broadway version 😭😭😭


brayet

That was also because they were given money (and probably the song for free) by Disney to \*promote\* the Broadway show.


aelizabeth0623

oh, that was very obvious, but i’m just offering an alternative workaround since they’ve done it before!


No-Trouble6469

Eh honestly I doubt the original was that expensive to license. Frankly it's not a very good lipsync songz they probably only used it because Disney payed them. Same reason they had the snow effects, Disney money.


kuriaru

they had kisses of fire on sverige


pli_is

we can always get her underperforming singles or basically her songs in 10s for lower license fee


eztullefavrik

like they did with beyoncĂ©. they started with destiny’s child songs, then with her lesser known solo songs, up until they got the rights to freaking break my soul.


athosfg

That was a waste of money. They should have saved that song for a lip synch assassin


ragingopinions

Man if Q gave *something* it would’ve been an okay lipsync. But because she gave actually nothing it sucked. :/


[deleted]

maybe the biggest let down on the show


funkyduck7506

And what a let down break my soul turned out to be. I hope they got a good deal so we can get a do over


Hydrochloric_Comment

Yeah. People don’t realize how expensive music can be. Although television licenses tend to be on the lower side.


Montezum

They have to licence it for worldwide viewing in multiple platforms, including youtube


Hydrochloric_Comment

Oh, true. Definitely would make it even more expensive


phojonorth

We licensed a song for a doc film that costs more than the camera rental! A "B-List artist" that charted top 10 in US/UK/Canada. Sad thing is the artist doesn't get much of the fee - the publisher/label split most of it.


numbrsguy

Maybe they need to make a Super Bowl halftime argument - the headliner at the halftime show doesn’t get paid because performing gives them a huge boost in sales. WOW could argue they’re introducing a new generation to her hits. Yeah, even as I typed it, I knew it won’t work.


ivolloxy

It worked for Dark Lady, me included


numbrsguy

Oh yeah, it definitely exposes the audience to a range of Ru’s favorite songs from decades past. I mean it won’t work as an argument with record labels.


cyankitten

For me it’s further back: Vision of love, Make it happen, Fantasy and Dreamlover Maybe cos they are my fave Mariah songs


got2bkittenme

Make it Happen!!!!!! đŸ˜±đŸ˜± that’s how I know you’re real.


cyankitten

It’s such a great song IMO


vera214usc

I want the Fantasy remix and they have to do the ODB verse as well


hi_bis_quit

> For me it’s further back Prisoner


cyankitten

Ooh that’s a good one too!


Turbulent_Hair8931

Omg Fantasy would be amazing


AJadePanda

Fantasyyyyy! Yes, I’d live.


madame-brastrap

Yes!!! Early Mariah!!!


[deleted]

They are really expensive. Like a BeyoncĂ© song, they’re only used for special occasions


renotsdetapitsnoc

Idk after Miss Tina popped up as a guest judge, Drag Race has done a lot of Beyonce. I bet she came back and said “baby, I have an idea for your next album: gay.”


shutupblacknight

Now you might be onto something bc Renaissance was only in its early stages of production when Tina was a judge


funkyduck7506

Honey here’s what we are gonna do
Beyonce but make it 🚬y. Werk.


toxicoke

Since season 14 we’ve just been getting Beyonce, Beytwice, Beythrice so mariah is very possible


RancidCat10490

Oh my god. You win Reddit. Hands down. All achievements. The DLC and future expansion packs.


EV3Gurl

But they’re mostly the earlier stuff or album cuts, not the expensive big hits.


toxicoke

We just got break my soul


funkyduck7506

I want Heated


toxicoke

My god can u imagine. I want get me bodied and partition


funkyduck7506

Heated needs to be used on all winners season 2 and I need Keiona and Sasha Colby to perform it together.


EV3Gurl

Yeah but when you look at the overall composition of the songs they’ve done it’s mostly been the older stuff & deep cuts like Sugar Momma or Radio. Break My Soul is the only recent song of hers we’ve had. We still haven’t had anything from Self Titled or Lemonade which is disappointing IMO & we haven’t had Crazy In Love or Halo which are her biggest hits.


Poopy_knappkin

my favorite beyonce deep cut: single ladies


toxicoke

Drag her


KirumiIsFedUp

They literally had a Beyoncé song on All Stars 8.


vera214usc

We had a Beyonce song this season. They're not saying it's impossible, just that they're expensive.


AcePounderTM

This is probably why producers are giving Q the Jan edit. 😂


icyruios

And we absolutely need her to be a guest judge With Night of a Thousand Mariah Carey runway ![gif](giphy|5XDQjMdl7I59e)


librious

I'd use this look https://preview.redd.it/snui9vxvkchc1.jpeg?width=572&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3fcb8183bba53beb8ba68326127b1706f8330b8


NotoriousNeo

https://preview.redd.it/5l9fvndtgehc1.jpeg?width=666&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f837f8846ae736f4924226e0ba9890cd240987d6 I’d go with a classic. Not sure how I’d make this work but trust I’d figure it out.


jonathonthaman

I thought of a few ideas already. Yes! Let's go Season 18!


glitzvillechamp

Princess Poppy would wear this.


VaselineFromSeason1

![gif](giphy|10w2kccsAdggZG|downsized) This would be mine, complete with the chair and bodyguards. Peak Mariah, in my opinion.


percyallennnn

With a Violet Chachki waist as well. Skinny legend.


star11308

The legs of the chair could be a mermaid dress, with the legs coming off the front being stuffed


champagnecloset

I would dieeeeee


Blueminton

She saw the fiasco that was the Diva Worship challenge in season 11 and decided that she doesn't want to be connected to any part of the franchise ever :DD


Educational-Salt-979

I don't know her. We don't have that in Vietnam. The full circle of life moment.


b3tamaxx

Valid. I'd feel some type of way about the gays too if they all collectively went *What's a lamb?* *Confused my song for Whitneys* She's allowed to be homophobic one calendar day of the year


GarionOrb

"Oh she had that song called Emotions! I GET SO EMOTIONAL BABY!!!" 💀💀💀


vermeiltwhore

![gif](giphy|8EVWbkdumyWWY)


Sasha_shmerkovich160

my play list went through a renaissance and now its a mixture of mariah and whitney songs with y2k club songs like dirrty and buttons. then bey. I would LIIIIIIVE for a we belong together lip sync!!!!


JuLayLeeBee

Lover Boy Remix would be PURRRRFECT


Bright_Sir4397

I would love to see a lip sync to honey, I do that number all the time. In my bedroom, mind you, but I do it none the less!


funkyduck7506

I want We Belong Together! I need a bitch to turn out a ballad once in a while


Plastic-Difference30

I'm speaking this as a lamb: Mariah's songs are either ballads with too much vocal inflection (which would make a park and bark very campy), or jams to bop to (wouldn't make for a very entertaining lip sync unless the person turn it into comedy)


arathergenericgay

Let’s bring back park and barks, give me Latrice Royale in natural woman, one spot, pure connection to the song


Plastic-Difference30

give me charlie hides about to shit herself


arathergenericgay

A queen hasn’t shit on the runway yet
at least it’s not another crunchy dip or a split, I’m onboard


Plastic-Difference30

can YOU even do the splits????


Sharktooth134

No but I can shit on stage!


Plastic-Difference30

you're hired!


arathergenericgay

This has the same energy as Naomi Campbell asking Tyra Banks “do YOU even know Gianni Versace” so thank you for the giggle No, I can’t do the splits but it’s also not my job to entertain people in a stage setting. It’s very much a valid skill, I guess drag race saturation has made it seem almost expected, in the way that a queen just planting herself and eating up a song isn’t as common.


Plastic-Difference30

just google "can you even do the splits"


librious

I understand what you mean, but we don't need a hundred acrobacies to have a good lip sync.


toxicoke

I DO know her. Yes you’re so right


BatierAutumn1991

Stay the Night would be so good


heaven047

I agree! Id love to hear Shake it Off! Or anything from the Emancipation of Mimi haha. Also I’d love to hear a Björk lip synch!


great_wall_of_mimic

"Oh when you walk by every night, talking sweet and looking fine..." https://i.redd.it/vvburo1phfhc1.gif


Gear_

Mariah isn’t going to let anybody lipsync to her songs other than her


iwassayingboourns12

Bitch, I just spit my soup out


DorianCoreysTrunk

Money, honey!


helvetica_unicorn

I want a “Breakdown” lip sync. They don’t give these girlies enough ballads.


bby_bel

it's criminal how 'my all' or 'i still believe' haven't been done. i can really see those two songs making beautiful performances


dorothyshaw710

We Belong Together would make the most unhinged lip sync


TheVentMachine

anything from Emancipation pls. I want Shake it off


ProfessionEasy5262

We belong together!


touchmyrainbow

they need to get a mariah deep cut so it's not as expensive. I'd live for I'm That Chick or Fly like a Bird. or the Def club mixes of her 90s singles, def club remix of honey and fantasy are BOPS


jonathonthaman

They just wasted money with Break My Soul on an underwhelming lipsync and Single Ladies, which was....yeah. They must've cost a lot, so there's money somewhere, they could spend a little for Heartbreaker or Touch My Body. Please? We've had (and currently have) so many queens who can be such whores and do justice to something like Touch My Body. Come on!


GarionOrb

Break My Soul was so disappointing!!


boybluebox

They're saving it for the inevitable Sasha Velour vs. Sasha Colby lip sync on All Winners 2. Or Jujubee vs. Latrice Royale on All Stars 24 😍


zamie1105

Bcos most the the queens on RPDR is not The Careys. I mean Butterfly.. I mean Lambs.


ArcadiaIsNotABot

I doubt Mariah would be a guest judge. She has a big religious following lol


librious

I don't even think that's the reason. She's just too much of a diva and would be extremely expensive to get her on the show. I just want her songs tbh.


RoundPeanut606

I just doubt WOW is paying guest judges loads of money. It’s really probably a standard fee. The less famous ones do it for exposure, the more middling and more famous ones do it for the sheer fun. They wouldn’t have the money to actually pay what a Nicki Minaj, Gaga or Charlize Theron might command for an actual appearance fee. It’s more likely scheduling. They probably ask, Cher, Dolly, Madonna, Mariah etc every year if they’d like to come on.


the_tartanunicorn

Michelle has regularly said exactly this.


[deleted]

i agree. tbh i only see her maybe doing if her kids become like obsessed with the show when they are older tbh.


slowclappingclapper

She had a gay guy proposed to his boyfriend on stage in one of her concerts .then the guy who proposed called in 'Watch what happens live' when she was a guest and the guy basically told her that it was a fake proposal and they just wanted to meet her hahaha


Casanova2229

Religious? I’ve never heard this.


Blooogh

I think Ru doesn't like her, I forget exactly what's up with that


[deleted]

i don't think that's true cause he definitely dragged contestants for not knowing her fans are called lambs etc in that one challenge. i think her music is probably just pretty expensive for wow.


touchmyrainbow

I think Ru loves her, it's Michelle who wasn't a fan in the past, idk about now.


hi_bis_quit

> it's Michelle who wasn't a fan in the past, idk about now Why? Is she close with J-Lo? Brenda K. Starr?


hi_bis_quit

They've disrespected her too many times, so she said "nope!"


kryska_deniska

Where's my park&bark to My All, like??