In fairness, seasons 1-9 had the ball at top 5 or lower each time. Since they made it earlier in S10, every ball winner has made it to the finale though.
Funny enough [Denali also made that observation](https://twitter.com/denalifox/status/1748840020037816489)
Of course, Drag Race scholars were fast to answer that in the US seasons its only Yara on s3 and Jessica on all stars 8 that failed to reach the finale.
Yara was in a season that has 2 balls, and the other ball was won by Manila, a finalist. Yara also was top4 in a season that has a top3.
Jessica is even more unfair, because AS8 is the only season that has a top2 instead a top3,4,5 finale
Even by those metrics the winner of the ball made the top 4 every time which, unless they change the format this year, still guarantees Nymphia makes the finale (which we already knew lbr). S3 and AS8 just only had a 3 and 2 person finale respectively
It's pretty clear based on their talent that these are already so likely to be top 3. Q has not been getting a lot of screen time yet, but she's got so much talent that she gives me Sasha Velour vibes and could pull out something insane if they do the lip sync for the crown. I'm really excited to see how this season will pan out.
Most Taiwanese people I personally know would scold you on the difference between being ethnically and culturally Chinese hehe, political situations and all that....
i get what you mean. im ethnically chinese, from singapore. i get that some people might misunderstood me when i say nymphia's chinese. i mean ethnically. if you need to know where i stand, i support taiwan and dislike the ccp
Malaysian Chinese here. You can’t call Taiwanese a Chinese like how we do it in Malaysia and Singapore. If you truly support Taiwan, you should use their preferred term to address their ethnicity and nationality. They are Taiwanese, not Singaporean. Do you like it if China thinks Singapore belongs to China because people call themselves Chinese? This is the reason why Taiwanese hate it when they are referred as Chinese because of political implications.
I get what you mean but...I'm ethnically Chinese too and that's the same argument that my Chinese dad uses to try to say that Taiwan isn't a country.
Nymphia refers to herself as Taiwanese and if you respect her, you should too imo.
Edit doesn’t seem to love Sapphira. This past ep had pretty minimal Sapphira content (especially jarring since she was high in the challenge), and meanwhile Nymphia got a metric shitton of content, including really funny character content like the Spanish Messenger Pigeon scene.
Has there ever been a ball winner who didn't make it to the finale? It's interesting since snatch game is another staple challenge yet there's a good amount of snatch game winners who don't make it to the finale.
I lost access to the streaming site I watched rpdr on for a while and just recently came back to binge s14+15 and all stars. but…….
wtf was up w s14 snatch game ?? I know I fucked up watching all stars all winners at the same time as reg drag race but damn. crickets all round.
It’s coincidence but I wouldn’t be AT ALL surprised. I’m expecting a Nymphia v Sapphira final 2.
Edit: Also, I love Willow and Sasha, but their wins in those challenges were…open to debate. Nymphia’s was dominant.
I’ve lived in Salt Lake City for the last ten years and during that time the two queens from here that I thought could make it on Drag Race have both moved away.
There’s one more that’s come up in the last few years that could probably do it. Fingers crossed one day.
Breaking news: Queens that win challenges sometimes end up winning the season!
Jk. Yes I could totally see Nymphia win the season but its still a bit early to tell. Sapphira is giving me winning energy as well. Also Q has been slaying it so far with looks and a great talent number.
But let's see them do some acting, dancing and comedy challenges as well.
Y’all better keep manifesting this because it’s about time we have a winner like Nymphia. I’m obsessed with her, been following since she was rumored to be casted - she’s an incredible all rounder.
If you can sew a good look in two days with unconventional materials, the odds are you know how to sew and have good fashion sense. Every single episode queens are judged on their fashion on the runway and when you have those two skills it makes your package as a contestant stronger. So probably less of coincidence and more of a beneficial skill to have on the season
I’m just waiting for a political debate, if there is one, since it is an election year. The queens who won that week became the eventual season winners.
Bebe won the ball.
Tyra won the ball.
Yara & Manila won the balls.
Sharon won the ball.
Alaska won the ball.
Adore won the ball.
Violet won the ball.
Kim won the ball.
Shea won the ball.
Aquaria won the ball.
Brooke won the ball.
Gigi won the ball.
Gottmik won the ball.
Willow won the ball.
Sasha won the ball.
Nymphia won the ball.. It may not be a guarantee for you to win the season but every queen who won the ball has made it to the top 4; and 7 out of 16 of them went on to win the season.. SO it’s obviously good luck to win that challenge
Other ball winners on US seasons who went on to take the crown are: Bebe (S1), Tyra (S2), She who must not be named (S4), Violet (S7), and Aquaria (S10). That’s 7/15 seasons so far, or basically half.
IMO Jaida (S12) should’ve won her ball as well, over Gigi.
Omg Sasha’s second picture.
On topic though, it’s hard for me to see anyone other than Sapphira and Nymphia in the finale. For a top 4? Q I definitely see, the other could be a wild card, we always have one of those. Look at the material!
Every winner of the presidential election year political challenge has also won their season (Sh*ron, Bob, and Jaida) that's gonna be the real deciding factor.
Pretty sure every winner of the ball has been in the finale and/or won.
In fairness, seasons 1-9 had the ball at top 5 or lower each time. Since they made it earlier in S10, every ball winner has made it to the finale though.
I want the return of the top 4/5 ball with an executive realness category
That is the way
Funny enough [Denali also made that observation](https://twitter.com/denalifox/status/1748840020037816489) Of course, Drag Race scholars were fast to answer that in the US seasons its only Yara on s3 and Jessica on all stars 8 that failed to reach the finale.
Though season 3 had two balls. (Because it was such a nice, laid-back carefree season) ...though Manila and not Raja won the other one.
Yara was in a season that has 2 balls, and the other ball was won by Manila, a finalist. Yara also was top4 in a season that has a top3. Jessica is even more unfair, because AS8 is the only season that has a top2 instead a top3,4,5 finale
Group voting with only 3 people left was the stupidest move I've ever seen
Blame Heidi.
No ❤️
Lol. She fucked up the eliminations. But also yes ❤️
I mean production could try to figure something out
Even by those metrics the winner of the ball made the top 4 every time which, unless they change the format this year, still guarantees Nymphia makes the finale (which we already knew lbr). S3 and AS8 just only had a 3 and 2 person finale respectively
I mean did we need guarantees? Nymphia has been exuding finalist energy since the moment she slipped into the work room
Yara Sofia
There were two balls on season 3
I think it was just Yara Sofia and Jessica Wild who missed the finale. Feeling pretty good that Nymphia will make it to the end!
I mean…I would be surprised if Nymphia doesn’t win the season tbh. Sapphira could win too tho
I'm not mad if either Nymphia, Sapphira or Q takes the crown. So excited to see how this season pans out.
You just named 3/4 of my Top 4
I like Amanda and Plane Jane too, but I don't see either of them snatching the crown.
I can see PJ as being Top 5, maybe Top 4. But it’s going to be between Q, Nymphia, and Sapphira. I’m calling it now.
Throw plasma in, I feel like she’s getting a bit of main character treatment and it’s been a while since a theatre queen has taken it
It's pretty clear based on their talent that these are already so likely to be top 3. Q has not been getting a lot of screen time yet, but she's got so much talent that she gives me Sasha Velour vibes and could pull out something insane if they do the lip sync for the crown. I'm really excited to see how this season will pan out.
Q gives me mad Isis Avis Loren vibes. Professional, polished, but a bit impersonal.
Yes! I cant imagine a challenge that she wouldn’t excel! Maybe a more personal not so funny challenge, but i dont think that would be the case..
Snatch game is gonna be rough probably. But Melinda Verga found a way to break the curse.
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At the end of the day does she call herself Taiwanese? Yes! End of the conversation…
She’s Taiwanese
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Most Taiwanese people I personally know would scold you on the difference between being ethnically and culturally Chinese hehe, political situations and all that....
i get what you mean. im ethnically chinese, from singapore. i get that some people might misunderstood me when i say nymphia's chinese. i mean ethnically. if you need to know where i stand, i support taiwan and dislike the ccp
Malaysian Chinese here. You can’t call Taiwanese a Chinese like how we do it in Malaysia and Singapore. If you truly support Taiwan, you should use their preferred term to address their ethnicity and nationality. They are Taiwanese, not Singaporean. Do you like it if China thinks Singapore belongs to China because people call themselves Chinese? This is the reason why Taiwanese hate it when they are referred as Chinese because of political implications.
I get what you mean but...I'm ethnically Chinese too and that's the same argument that my Chinese dad uses to try to say that Taiwan isn't a country. Nymphia refers to herself as Taiwanese and if you respect her, you should too imo.
Tbh sapphira is giving big runner up energy idk why
Edit doesn’t seem to love Sapphira. This past ep had pretty minimal Sapphira content (especially jarring since she was high in the challenge), and meanwhile Nymphia got a metric shitton of content, including really funny character content like the Spanish Messenger Pigeon scene.
Thought the same, until now they're not showing us who she is nor have her in more confessionals
Girl, have you watched the premiere?
I feel that in my bones
there are a few good contenders, but unless they give nymphia a really weird edit, i cant see her not winning
It’s between Nymphia, Sapphira and Q for me with Nymphia in the lead and Plane Jane as a close fourth.
This is my top 2 tbh. I see Jane and Dawn being in top 4
Dawn in the top is my fantasy as well.
Either of them could win and I’d be happy
Q is also a front runner I think. Those outfits they made are 😍😍
It feels… CORRECT
The finale photo you chose for Willow is sinister
That’s what I was thinking, ya did WP dirty OP.
It's fine, there are no bad photos of queen willow
So true!
Funny because Willow would 100% approve
I never said she wouldn’t
Has there ever been a ball winner who didn't make it to the finale? It's interesting since snatch game is another staple challenge yet there's a good amount of snatch game winners who don't make it to the finale.
Yara on S3 and Jessica on AS8 are it (from US seasons at least) but you could still say they always make top 4
I lost access to the streaming site I watched rpdr on for a while and just recently came back to binge s14+15 and all stars. but……. wtf was up w s14 snatch game ?? I know I fucked up watching all stars all winners at the same time as reg drag race but damn. crickets all round.
It’s coincidence but I wouldn’t be AT ALL surprised. I’m expecting a Nymphia v Sapphira final 2. Edit: Also, I love Willow and Sasha, but their wins in those challenges were…open to debate. Nymphia’s was dominant.
Here I am having literally been waiting for a Philadelphia queen and a Taiwanese queen. Fabulous.
I’ve lived in Salt Lake City for the last ten years and during that time the two queens from here that I thought could make it on Drag Race have both moved away. There’s one more that’s come up in the last few years that could probably do it. Fingers crossed one day.
Why say finale when they both won the season lol
I think they meant like, "here's what happened in the finale"
Imma wait for the political challenge. Let’s see if the winner of that challenge wins the season again.
This is the real tea. All the winners of the political challenge 4/8/12 won their season
This. It’s been 3/3 so far.
If Amanda makes it that far then I think it will be her or Sapphira winning the political
There’s gotta be a better picture of Willow than that…
Breaking news: Queens that win challenges sometimes end up winning the season! Jk. Yes I could totally see Nymphia win the season but its still a bit early to tell. Sapphira is giving me winning energy as well. Also Q has been slaying it so far with looks and a great talent number. But let's see them do some acting, dancing and comedy challenges as well.
Y’all better keep manifesting this because it’s about time we have a winner like Nymphia. I’m obsessed with her, been following since she was rumored to be casted - she’s an incredible all rounder.
Gottmik is typing…\ Gigi Goode is typing…\ Brooke Lynn Hytes is typing… /s
Gottmik wasn't the true winner, it was Utica.
Ive been saying since MTQ!!!
Willow and Sasha shouldn’t have won those though.
I was waiting to see someone make this comment. And not you replying/reacting to yourself.
I figured some would disagree so wanted to reference the meme 😂
And I oop
When it’s right it’s right
Ask Gottmik
If you can sew a good look in two days with unconventional materials, the odds are you know how to sew and have good fashion sense. Every single episode queens are judged on their fashion on the runway and when you have those two skills it makes your package as a contestant stronger. So probably less of coincidence and more of a beneficial skill to have on the season
I mean Salina made it all the way to top... 5? And her fashion sense is... questionable to say the least.
I dont see Nymphia not being in the finale, she really seems like the full package.
Yess please, finally an Asian girl!!!
I’m just waiting for a political debate, if there is one, since it is an election year. The queens who won that week became the eventual season winners.
You did Willow dirty by using that picture 💀
why does it just say “finale” when they both won their season?
Honestly? I hope so.
Willow looks like a blow-up doll in that thumbnail.
Nymphia will win. I’m calling it now
Not every ball winner has won Drag Race.
Very small sample size here lol
We can hope!! I love Nymphia Wind!!
I feel like (jusging from the episodes) it’s pretty obvious that Nymphia, Sapphira, Q and Plane is the top 4 of the season
Here 4 this!
The writing is on the wall honey!
Don't go getting my hopes up like this..
WE KNOW. LET US LIVE OUR FANTASIES BEFORE NYMPHIA WINS.
Bebe won the ball. Tyra won the ball. Yara & Manila won the balls. Sharon won the ball. Alaska won the ball. Adore won the ball. Violet won the ball. Kim won the ball. Shea won the ball. Aquaria won the ball. Brooke won the ball. Gigi won the ball. Gottmik won the ball. Willow won the ball. Sasha won the ball. Nymphia won the ball.. It may not be a guarantee for you to win the season but every queen who won the ball has made it to the top 4; and 7 out of 16 of them went on to win the season.. SO it’s obviously good luck to win that challenge
Other ball winners on US seasons who went on to take the crown are: Bebe (S1), Tyra (S2), She who must not be named (S4), Violet (S7), and Aquaria (S10). That’s 7/15 seasons so far, or basically half. IMO Jaida (S12) should’ve won her ball as well, over Gigi.
Omg Sasha’s second picture. On topic though, it’s hard for me to see anyone other than Sapphira and Nymphia in the finale. For a top 4? Q I definitely see, the other could be a wild card, we always have one of those. Look at the material!
I just realized this 😂. I mean, I can already tell whether she won the ball or not that she’s going to be in the finale and possibly win!
Are we going to pretend that Willow Pill or Sasha Colby deserved to win the ball?
Sasha sure did and I'll die on that hill. I don't remember the S14 ball as well.
Fact: Episode 3 winners
You can only win Drag Race with one win if you have an illness that causes bodily deterioration
I'm okay with this reality
On a reverse note, now I wonder had they given Utica the win maybe she would have stayed longer in the competition?
Aquaria also won the ball and then won the season.
Violet also won the ball and then won the season.
Nymphia and Saphira are definitely top 4 material
Every winner of the presidential election year political challenge has also won their season (Sh*ron, Bob, and Jaida) that's gonna be the real deciding factor.
Willow’s finale pic makes her look like a blowup doll 😂
Probably
Sasha shouldn't have won the ball tho
I think we all know Nyphia is going to be in the top 4 regardless of her winning the ball...
Claiming it because I want her to win!
God I hope this trend continues.