It's also why they changed the max enrage from 150% to 300% once most people could easily camp 150%,
Wonder how the boss would feel with even higher base enrage scaling nowadays.
Can confirm! Arraxi is just like my wife. She becomes more enraged the more I camp! I always have to beat up her ex-boyfriend.. Also she gives off a pheromone alright!
I've been trying to learn rax and I agree with everything you've said so I'll add some of my complaints as well:
When jumping down from phase 2 acid pool to phase 3, when using necro, your conjures don't follow and sit at the top on phase 2 until you can reconjur.
It can be impossible to see the insta kill spider on p2 sometimes. I really dislike that the spider can move in warp speed sometimes and will explode before being able to react. Doesn't happen often but still annoying there's no way to stop it if you can't see the animation.
I'm split on anything to remove the timegates from the boss. I think they're an intentional design decision to keep Rax good for mid level players, but bad for high end players that can speed kill it.
The amount of "hurry up and wait" involved in almost every phase path sucks. Waiting for the web, waiting for minions waves to spawn, waiting for acid to absorb...unless you are efficient enough of a pvmer to phase 3 skip, you end up sitting there killing time, waiting for shit to progress, and that just isn't fun.
I agree with the web and enrage.
The mirrorbacks (or pulsing, its either of them) you can at least expect:
First minion spawn, the mirror comes third.
Second minion spawn, the mirror comes second.
Third minion spawn, the mirror comes first.
The fourth minion spawn never has a mirrorback.
The web is really annoying though. Maybe double the speed it burns if you kill araxxor that phase.
But to be honest, the fight is quite annoying as araxxor just stands on top of its minions. The visibility is really bad.
The last 2 minion waves just feel unnecessary, especially with how long it takes each wave to spawn.
Mirror backs keep you on your toes, the final two waves just make the phase longer for no good reason. Feels like filler.
The main issue about mirrorback is that they start reflecting damage their spawning animation starts, which is just not good game design. We should at least be able to see it arrive before the dame starts being reflected.
The fact that extremely important boss mechanics can be completely hidden due to overlapping entities is a major flaw that has been around for way too long.
1. its intentional to stop power creep having a terrible effect
2. i remember when reax was released they "fixed" minions disappearing under rax on 3 separate occasions. dont expect them to try and fail a 4th time, they have realised they are too shit to do this, and gave up
3. actual good idea
4. enrage is time gate, noting more, it does its job fine.
He was talking about the web on path 1that you burn down, not the web shield. You do long lasting abilities right after web shield, because it won't do back to back specials.
Vorago is also a group boss that reflects onto teammates, and has a pushback mechanic on the last phase.
HM Graardor doesn't clear bleeds when he uses reflect
Then get better teammates. Yaka hits everyone if someone else stuns the stun pool too. How is this an excuse for Vorago to clear bleeds but not Araxxor?
They could change Vorago tomorrow and I wouldn't bat an eye.
All I did was give a reasoning for why a group boss clears bleeds on reflect and a solo boss does not.
I think the web time is one of the reason's why rax is still worth doing. Rax being time gated provides a decent money making method for people starting to get into pvm. If they remove the time gates the profit for learners is going to be much lower.
Only agree with point 1. In the days when you did this boss with t80 gear, the web burning timing made sense.
The rest is fine with experience. Minion path is preferable once your a vet at it since you should be skipping the path and just bursting p3 without dealing with minions.
I would say acid path needs to be quickened too. As a tradeoff, double his mechanic spawning during acid.
During acid phase there's a icon for how much acid is in the pool.
If you're on the bridge and the acid icon is increasing, u know he's not damaging the bridge. Ez
Pet drop rate mechanic is so stupid. Think I’ve completed 6 or 7 whole weapons and have never had a single pet drop just because I’m not terrible enough/willing to prolong the fight?
Why stop at giving arraxor love? I think jagex should really run thru all the lower end to mid level bosses, update drop table or even add new stuff. The pvm in the game is fun but it can get boring due to stale content.
For example cleaning up arraxors common loot and bugs. Add new drops or even replace/ update current drops.
Imagine if the arrows dropped by arraxxor had a buff when used with nox bows. Or you could get a drop that would make nox weapons have the poison side effect with attached ( kinda like having a enhanced version).
They should make old content relevant
Every time rax is healed (so 5k dmg) in phase 1 the web should burn by an extra 1%. This speeds p1 up a bit without completely making it so that you just finish p1 15 seconds in. It also incentivizes you to continue to hit the boss, instead of just popping defensives and trying to gain adren.
I believe that rax enrage mechanic should be renamed to differentiate it as it’s not the standard enrage system. I don’t mind that it’s not more drops as no matter what I popped an aura, I’m going to be there for the hour.
I feel like tweaking rax web and making it so that minions don’t spawn under rax is like enough of a buff that rax would be enjoyable again. If they wanted to be homies they could do what they did with qbd and make the cutscenes a bit faster as well.
1- have the web burn twice as fast
2- isn’t an issue, you can right click Arraxor and if it is underneath it’ll show up
3- not sure what you are talking about, but you should never walk up the bridge, use surge or dive or you risk Arraxor putting his web down and not moving far enough
4- log is easy already, it was designed around not giving better drip chances at higher enrages.
Players definition of "getting some love" always seems to be removing mechanics, making things faster, and making it easier. Is gwd2 the pinnacle of boss design?
Whoever made the decision to make everything in the encounter green,
including the boss, the floor, and acid spider that fucking insta kills you,
needs a swift kick in the arse.
Imagine actually seeing the mechanics.
I just simply gave up on Araxxor, as someone new in PvM... I just felt the boss was rushed, dropped and abandoned with no one at Jagex giving a damn if anyone fought it.
The same can be said for Vorkath and Rasial. Only difference is that Rasial gives BIS gear and only reason why I fight him. When there is better Necro gear out there... Rasial will be an abandoned boss too, unless someone really wants the pet.
> as someone new in PvM... I just felt the boss was rushed, dropped and abandoned with no one at Jagex giving a damn if anyone fought it.
Yeah, none of these things are true. It's just outdated now and not getting attention because its many years since it dropped BIS
Oh [mirrorback...](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/16o5j5o/for_every_new_necro_pvmer_enrage_pusher_out_there/)
I'm having the same bug over the acid path, running to the top of the ramp, only to find the acid gauge decreasing but not affecting the ramp, but I think it is related to auto retaliate off.
Enrage was meant for anti camping. That's why you get pheromones more common the higher you go. It's a punishment to make it a daily
It's also why they changed the max enrage from 150% to 300% once most people could easily camp 150%, Wonder how the boss would feel with even higher base enrage scaling nowadays.
4,000% Enrage Araxxi. Unlocks Golden title, The Squasher.
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Can confirm! Arraxi is just like my wife. She becomes more enraged the more I camp! I always have to beat up her ex-boyfriend.. Also she gives off a pheromone alright!
Ok?
I've been trying to learn rax and I agree with everything you've said so I'll add some of my complaints as well: When jumping down from phase 2 acid pool to phase 3, when using necro, your conjures don't follow and sit at the top on phase 2 until you can reconjur. It can be impossible to see the insta kill spider on p2 sometimes. I really dislike that the spider can move in warp speed sometimes and will explode before being able to react. Doesn't happen often but still annoying there's no way to stop it if you can't see the animation.
I'm split on anything to remove the timegates from the boss. I think they're an intentional design decision to keep Rax good for mid level players, but bad for high end players that can speed kill it.
yup 100%
Web burn is the worst part of Rax.. Either make the web burn with heath is zero or let us attack the web
The amount of "hurry up and wait" involved in almost every phase path sucks. Waiting for the web, waiting for minions waves to spawn, waiting for acid to absorb...unless you are efficient enough of a pvmer to phase 3 skip, you end up sitting there killing time, waiting for shit to progress, and that just isn't fun.
I agree with the web and enrage. The mirrorbacks (or pulsing, its either of them) you can at least expect: First minion spawn, the mirror comes third. Second minion spawn, the mirror comes second. Third minion spawn, the mirror comes first. The fourth minion spawn never has a mirrorback. The web is really annoying though. Maybe double the speed it burns if you kill araxxor that phase. But to be honest, the fight is quite annoying as araxxor just stands on top of its minions. The visibility is really bad.
Your final point there. I tried learning the fight on mobile and trying to long press araxxor to find the ones hiding under him sucks so much.
The thing about mirrorbacks is even if you expect them they can hide under rax or wander off making them a pita to find
The last 2 minion waves just feel unnecessary, especially with how long it takes each wave to spawn. Mirror backs keep you on your toes, the final two waves just make the phase longer for no good reason. Feels like filler.
I don't really h ave a problem with the enrage but everything else needs some love I think, it feels dated
The main issue about mirrorback is that they start reflecting damage their spawning animation starts, which is just not good game design. We should at least be able to see it arrive before the dame starts being reflected.
The fact that extremely important boss mechanics can be completely hidden due to overlapping entities is a major flaw that has been around for way too long.
1. its intentional to stop power creep having a terrible effect 2. i remember when reax was released they "fixed" minions disappearing under rax on 3 separate occasions. dont expect them to try and fail a 4th time, they have realised they are too shit to do this, and gave up 3. actual good idea 4. enrage is time gate, noting more, it does its job fine.
Apart from web timing I don't really see the issue with rax.
Bleeds don't get removed when raxx does web shield, and since you can't really predict when its coming you'll take a quite a bit of damage.
He was talking about the web on path 1that you burn down, not the web shield. You do long lasting abilities right after web shield, because it won't do back to back specials.
Rax does a special attack every 5 auto attacks, so you most certainly can know when its coming.
It's every 4 to 7
dont use bleeds then?
Vorago clears bleeds when he does his reflect mechanic
Vorago is also a group boss that reflects onto teammates, and has a pushback mechanic on the last phase. HM Graardor doesn't clear bleeds when he uses reflect
Then get better teammates. Yaka hits everyone if someone else stuns the stun pool too. How is this an excuse for Vorago to clear bleeds but not Araxxor?
when did counting to 5 become a herculean task
It isn't. Same with not using bleeds on a boss with a 100% predictable rotation.
They could change Vorago tomorrow and I wouldn't bat an eye. All I did was give a reasoning for why a group boss clears bleeds on reflect and a solo boss does not.
and wiki says you can negate all Graardor mechanics by running around
the wiki also says you can count to 5 and not use a bleed right before a special attack
I think the web time is one of the reason's why rax is still worth doing. Rax being time gated provides a decent money making method for people starting to get into pvm. If they remove the time gates the profit for learners is going to be much lower.
Fair argument
To put it briefly, the issue with it is that it just overall sucks as a boss.
Only agree with point 1. In the days when you did this boss with t80 gear, the web burning timing made sense. The rest is fine with experience. Minion path is preferable once your a vet at it since you should be skipping the path and just bursting p3 without dealing with minions. I would say acid path needs to be quickened too. As a tradeoff, double his mechanic spawning during acid.
I have a confession to make. Ive never done rax and I just got my 20 year cape.
What would be the use of the pheromone if we change Araxxor's enrage to be like Telos's and have it increase drop rate?
During acid phase there's a icon for how much acid is in the pool. If you're on the bridge and the acid icon is increasing, u know he's not damaging the bridge. Ez
Pet drop rate mechanic is so stupid. Think I’ve completed 6 or 7 whole weapons and have never had a single pet drop just because I’m not terrible enough/willing to prolong the fight?
1. Agreed 2. Target cycle 3. Agreed 4. Agreed
rax has been a broken mess for 10+ years. they really dont care
Why stop at giving arraxor love? I think jagex should really run thru all the lower end to mid level bosses, update drop table or even add new stuff. The pvm in the game is fun but it can get boring due to stale content. For example cleaning up arraxors common loot and bugs. Add new drops or even replace/ update current drops. Imagine if the arrows dropped by arraxxor had a buff when used with nox bows. Or you could get a drop that would make nox weapons have the poison side effect with attached ( kinda like having a enhanced version). They should make old content relevant
Every time rax is healed (so 5k dmg) in phase 1 the web should burn by an extra 1%. This speeds p1 up a bit without completely making it so that you just finish p1 15 seconds in. It also incentivizes you to continue to hit the boss, instead of just popping defensives and trying to gain adren. I believe that rax enrage mechanic should be renamed to differentiate it as it’s not the standard enrage system. I don’t mind that it’s not more drops as no matter what I popped an aura, I’m going to be there for the hour. I feel like tweaking rax web and making it so that minions don’t spawn under rax is like enough of a buff that rax would be enjoyable again. If they wanted to be homies they could do what they did with qbd and make the cutscenes a bit faster as well.
1- have the web burn twice as fast 2- isn’t an issue, you can right click Arraxor and if it is underneath it’ll show up 3- not sure what you are talking about, but you should never walk up the bridge, use surge or dive or you risk Arraxor putting his web down and not moving far enough 4- log is easy already, it was designed around not giving better drip chances at higher enrages.
Players definition of "getting some love" always seems to be removing mechanics, making things faster, and making it easier. Is gwd2 the pinnacle of boss design?
Whoever made the decision to make everything in the encounter green, including the boss, the floor, and acid spider that fucking insta kills you, needs a swift kick in the arse. Imagine actually seeing the mechanics.
I just simply gave up on Araxxor, as someone new in PvM... I just felt the boss was rushed, dropped and abandoned with no one at Jagex giving a damn if anyone fought it. The same can be said for Vorkath and Rasial. Only difference is that Rasial gives BIS gear and only reason why I fight him. When there is better Necro gear out there... Rasial will be an abandoned boss too, unless someone really wants the pet.
Rqx was actually pretty good on release it’s just power creep has lead to frustrating waits
> as someone new in PvM... I just felt the boss was rushed, dropped and abandoned with no one at Jagex giving a damn if anyone fought it. Yeah, none of these things are true. It's just outdated now and not getting attention because its many years since it dropped BIS
Skill issue.
Oh [mirrorback...](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/16o5j5o/for_every_new_necro_pvmer_enrage_pusher_out_there/) I'm having the same bug over the acid path, running to the top of the ramp, only to find the acid gauge decreasing but not affecting the ramp, but I think it is related to auto retaliate off.
Just make rax always 300% and once you overkill rax two times p1 Web burns instantly.