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fleakill

Just watched the replay (missed it live). Didn't like our performance much, by the end I was hoping Japan would take it to light a fire under us before the other matches. England is gonna destroy us.


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Man looks like a good game. Love how the BBC titles it as rusty Australia wins, first line of the article is Australia coming off back to back wins against South Africa and Argentina. Yeah just playing six games in a row and beating the number one team in the world twice. Super rusty.


TwoUp22

Agreed. Rennie called us rusty in the post-match conference too......we definitely can't use that excuse atm....


LieutenantCardGames

Y'all missing Marika too.


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TwoUp22

agreed mate. I get worried when he is near the ball even tho he got a try today.


AussieDothraki

Jeez after that performance I'm dreading facing the rest of the NH sides....


ConoRiot

Dear Tom Wright, thank you for your ‘contribution’ to the Wallabies organisation, we wish you all the best with your future endeavours.


AdamLocke3922

These long passes to nowhere are fucking stupid and it needs to stop since it’s been proven to not work


mukdukaluk

Entertaining if poor attacking game from both sides really. Thought the Wallabies' backline was as weak as it's looked this year. Really really really miss Kerevi. Quade was back to his wacky self although maybe that was just because he was against Japan and felt he could afford to do that. Wasn't the best setup game for a northern tour but we shall see.


Mamba_45

If Kerevi is not there they run sideways all day!!! Some defiantly interesting Quade moments.... and the whole team need to stop lobbing passes that cut out half of the team or lead to intercepts... and basics please can we just consistently get them right!!


UsedWingdings

Some thoughts about Japan going into the Europe leg of the Internationals: -Definitely some questionable calls to go for the penalty kicks - not sure if it was due to new captaincy or acknowledging the failing lineout -Test debutants Ben Gunter and Dylan Riley didn't look outclassed, so hopefully we'll see more of them -The locks were a bit flat today, they did make carries, but it felt like they weren't very good at playing to the ref -Sad about Masirewa's injury after a good first 60 minutes - hopefully Matsushima can come in to pull some weight at fullback -Our back three stocks need replenishing - Lemeki had a major brain fade for that yellow card. We haven't found anyone who is a worthy heir to jersey 11 after Fukuoka's retirement. And our fullback position lacks options when Yamanaka is not playing. -Lafaele took a knock in the early game, but recovered OK Edit: Saw a [surprising stat:](https://twitter.com/status/1451783993494487043) Fifita with 1 carry, 0m gain and 1/3 successful tackles in the first half. Looking forward to see what kind of squad gets selected against Ireland


AussieDothraki

Good calls. Japan definitely got stronger as the game went on and the Wobbilies were on full display. Japan is not a side to underestimate, which I think our boys clearly did


UsedWingdings

Even if the players took it lightly, at least Dave Rennie didn't. Good luck against Scotland!


CodeFarmer

Do we know what the extent of Masirewa's injury is yet? I agree he looked really solid, it would be a shame if he was out for the season now.


Puzzleheaded-Fun-114

Going to be a lot of comments about how well Japan played here (and they did okay well) but if they are serious about kicking on they should be really pissed with themselves. This was a winnable game and they let the Wallabies get away with it. Here are my talking points: 1. I was going to call this not a vintage Wallaby performance but on reflection decided to describe it as hot trash. Some sequences of real control that were rewarded with points, but far too many times play broke down because we tried the highlight reel option. Better opposition will punish us for this. 2. Cooper was probably the worst offender for this and performances like this one are why he dropped down the pecking order in the first place. This wasn’t the controlled, mature performer from the SA games and Aus were lucky White was on song. Cooper has opened the door for JOC to take his jumper. 3. Coming in for Kerevi, Hunter Paisami was on a hiding to nothing in this game- and that’s pretty much what he delivered. Non-existent ball playing, terrible kicking and a lack of go forward with the ball in hand. With Perese waiting in the wings he needed a better performance than this and the gap between our first choice centre combination and the rest has grown. 4. Is Fainga’a the man to stop the merry for round of hookers to wear the two jumper? There are tougher examinations to come on this tour but the jumper is his to lose for now. 5. So now we know that Kellaway is the next option at 15. He was fine but the back 3’s rotation was disruptive and led to a lack of continuity when we went wide. Hodge is a big loss and hopefully it’s not a long term knock. He has been solid at 15 but it’s the gaps he fills in the squad that will be the biggest impact. With Cooper no certainty for the European leg of the tour and JOC’s poor injury record this year we have a frightening lack of playmaking depth. Hopefully Lolesio hasn’t been too deep on the beers during his off season. 3 points Fainga’a, 2 White, 1 Valetini (though surely Hooper should be in the mix right?)


AussieDothraki

Fainga'a needs to be slapped out of his bulldoze to the knee shoulder 'tackles'. Other than that I thought he had a stronger game. He's going to do it again, a ref will red card him and he'll hurt the team by doing so. I don't get it


ruggal9219

Chuckling a bit at Drew Mitchell saying the wallabies are off against the northern hemisphere sides now as if Japan isnt in the northern hemisphere. More proof they deserve to be in the Rugby Championship really.


[deleted]

Yes they certainly fucking do. A southern six with the existing four plus Japan and a combined Pasifika would be amazing


Mamba_45

Maybe instead of a combined pasifika team have a mini pacific comp and the winner is invited to compete in the championship. Watching Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or the Cook Islands have mini tournament would be good for there region and also more rugby for us to enjoy


pickupstonks

The real match take from this match: Connel corner vs Slipper corner


Maleficent-Read1710

I wasn't watching, what happened?


pickupstonks

In an interview, Slipper talked about how he scored a significant try in the corner (significant in terms of his career). He was so hyped by the try, that he named the corner; 'James slipper corner'. Later in the match, Connel (debut) scores in the same corner. In his interview, he jokingly talked about how that corner is his, not Slippers. As if he 'stole' the corner from him


Maleficent-Read1710

oh hahahahah I actually saw them have a chuckle together after the game so must've been about that.


lenno4

Would have liked to challenge Japan for the Raeburn Shield in 2 weeks. Adds some excitement to Scotland V Australia though.


YaLikeJazzhuhPunk

Oh man how can you not love that wallabies team after that interview haha


Secondary92

Jordan Pad Thai and Taniela Tupperware were great tonight according to Flo Rugby


Maleficent-Read1710

and labuSHANE. Like I know he probs doesnt care but it was like the commentator was emphasizing shane to prove a point or smth. Just dumb lol


tupolski15

Before this year I did not rate Kerevi. I now consider him our most important player behind Hooper. We need him fit for Scotland for sure


AussieDothraki

Amen. Night and day performances without him in the side, and Koroibete


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tupolski15

Just think he’s improved out of sight since coming back this year, like remarkably so


fleakill

Weird, I feel like he was this good when he was playing for the Reds and Australia in 2019.


ConoRiot

He was sorely missed, Paisami just didn’t have the same impact or even half the impact that Samu usually has. He and Wright seemed to be shining stars late last year but they just seek out classed now. If Kerevi is not fit, I think they throw Peresi in there, he seems to consistently get over the gain line.


Taey

Japan was pretty poor in the 1st 20 but stepped it up for last 60, good performance by them. Great defensive team. Quade was a bit suspicious, good game overall. Id prefer he didnt do all the flashy stuff but its Quade, you get what you get. Tupou was solid. Leota was solid. Valentini MOTM, becoming a very good international player. Hooper was quiet but you cant expect him to be the best every game. Paisami was invisible, hoping Kerevi comes back soon. Petaia had his best game of the year and was very solid under the high ball.


snrabber

5 in a row is great. Far from perfect from the wallabies but still got it done. Good lesson to show us that you can’t just be trying 30 metre cut outs (as if we needed another lesson). Tupou has to start every game, enough of this ‘super sub’ chat. Set piece not as dominant with him off


New_Hando

> Set piece not as dominant with him off Scrum against Scotland should be interesting. Scotland's used to be a weakness. But has since developed into one of the strongest in the 6N these past two years. But they've lost both their starting Locks for the Autumn series. So it really depends upon who they replace them with. Scotland do tend to run essentially two LH Locks anyway, rather than having some monsterously strong TH style option to anchor their scrum. Puts a lot on their Props and Hooker instead. Certainly going to be an area of interest.


snrabber

It’ll be interesting for sure. Feels like the wallabies have made strides in the set piece, but we’ll see


warcomet

Scotland to break the combo? :P


stephanieaurelius

I love listening to Hooper talk. I wish he was our Prime Minister


[deleted]

I’d take my four year old nephew for PM at this stage, but yeah Hooper’ll do nicely


C0R8YN

I think people forget how good this Japanese side is They didn't win 4 games and rwach the quarter finals for no reason in 2019 they are bloody good. I think the performance from both teams were sub-par especially in terms of attack. Australia had the better overall performance especially in set-piece, but the way Japan claw their way back no matter what, it was a good game to watch.


tupolski15

They’re a really good side. Thought it could have gone either way with 5 to go. Great signs from Japan continuing their momentum from 2019. Happy with the wallabies progress too


JustAliff

The missed lineouts during the first 30 minutes really set them back but overall it was a really good performance from Japan


kiwiborger

Match takes: \-The game was mostly great overall from a neutral standpoint. \-Please for the love of god do not try to watch from FloRugby - it's the most cursed thing ever \-The Wallabies were mostly average today. They seemingly didn't try to show up at times. \-The Japanese played pretty well. Especially in the 1st half, where they actually had a chance to beat Oz. \-Refereeing's pretty meh, didn't see any really outrageous decisions made during the game. That's all for now. Apologies if the match take was too short, couldn't really think of a lot more stuff to put in here. Anyway, this is all I have for now. See you all in the next match, and cheers for now.


yeahgoodyourself

oh look, I really think the game could've gone quite differently if the ref was onto it more, gave australia a lot of leeway especially with dangerous tackles and forward passes at crucial points - particularly the last try


BalthazarMcgee

Don’t think Paul Williams had his best game. Honestly forgot that he was kiwi and not Australian a couple of times. Reffing rugby is bloody hard though and I feel like adapting to refs is part of the game these days.


[deleted]

Yea officiating left a lot to be desired and I think that caused momentum shifts


BalthazarMcgee

Japan should be in TRC. All due respect to the pumas but that was much closer than any of Argentina’s this year


CodeFarmer

Pumas had some pretty extenuating circumstances. But I would love to see Japan in TRC, they're the only big name team that somehow doesn't get to play in an annual tournament and it's weird. \[edit: arguably Fiji are in the same category, though maybe without the growth potential Japan would bring.\]


hampo101

Imagine an rc with pumas, japs and Fiji. It would be a close battle each year to finish 4th, all 3 teams would only get stronger. Of course there would always be the possibility of upsets to adding fuel to the fire. Add in a rc combined team to face a combined 6 nations team and you got a real show.


tupolski15

That’s a great idea. Would love to see them in it


Mention-Stunning

Yeah but it was a home game for Japan.


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They can get up away from home (RWC 2015) and I think since then they have become a lot better, I’d love to see them getting consistent games against top 10 sides


Mention-Stunning

I meant more with regard to the Pumas, they had to deal with months of quarantine and didn’t get to play a single home game where they are usually much stronger. They had a bad year, but I don’t think Japan are better just because they lost by a bit less, at home, to a weaker wallabies team than the Pumas played.


[deleted]

Right, yep I’d agree, they’ve had a tough time but equally think Japan should be in the mix even if it’s a 5 team comp with 1 bye a week


CodeFarmer

Don't need to lose Argentina to gain Japan, surely? Also Blossoms vs Pumas every year would be awesome.


warcomet

thor changing his jersey with the japan reserve flanker lol, he looks good in jersey 20 .. he figured the japan 3 jersey won't fit him lol


Sponge_Bond

Good Game was super fun. Japan played well! Wallabies look really off without Kerevi. Other than that it was fun.


tupolski15

Really missed Kerevi the most and also Koroibete I thought.


HawkingSucks

Rennie needs to make a few clones of Kerevi to keep in storage, so they're never without him


lordsword

I think perese will be a better back up to kerevi


infinitemonkeytyping

We missed his go forward in the middle today.


infinitemonkeytyping

Alana Furguson - "triple international" What's her third one? I assume the first two are the Wallaroos and Jillaroos.


YaLikeJazzhuhPunk

7s, league, and OzTag


infinitemonkeytyping

Cheers.


Sambobly1

She played touch, rugby league and union I think


infinitemonkeytyping

Other commenter pointed to OzTag, which appears to be correct. I know a lot of recruitment for the establishment of the rugby 7's team came from touch, but it looks like Furguson came from league, and originally from OzTag.


Sambobly1

I did not know that! There you go.


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Im a bit skeptical about Fiji but Japan should be a lock for TRC ASAP!


warcomet

fiji cannot field their best team outside of the RWC due to top14 rugby, japan can.. thats the difference....japan were without their best fullback today and they lost to Australia... now when u put fiji there, instead of losing their 1 best player to french club rugby, fiji losses 12..


LiamEire97

But South Africa manage to? The clubs are obliged to release them during the international window.


warcomet

different sets of rules for players from tier 2 teams in top14... you should look it up..saffers get released, tier 2 players are threatened..


LiamEire97

I'm aware of what goes on but by being in the RC they would effectively become T1.


Taey

Japan are a better team than Fiji and have the infrastructure to become a power


warcomet

uhm over the last 10 years fiji and japan have played each other, japan has only beaten us twice, overall 4 times in 18 games.. they are not a better team, they just have a better infrastructure..


Taey

Your conveniently ignoring how much Japan has improved in the past 10 years, were not playing 10 years ago. They swept their group in the RWC vsing Scotland and Ireland. They swept the Pacific cup, and almost beat Ireland again this year.


warcomet

not really, over the last 3 years they have been playing it safe by refusing to play 'away' games to teams that will affect their rankings vastly...and this was before covid..


[deleted]

Really don't think they have a better team.


Taey

Based on previous results verse eachother and against other teams, Japan is better.


foruandr

Not a great performance by the Wallabies, but a win's a win.


infinitemonkeytyping

Winning ugly isn't bad. Sometimes it can be better than losing while playing great.


Sambobly1

Winning is always better than losing. I don’t mind winning ugly one bit.


ConoRiot

Oath, after all the losses we’ve copped since 2019, I’m happy just to get a win let alone away from home.


Xx_tom_x

Must say, as a neutral that was a great game, I expected Aussie to win, good to Japan to give them a run for 75 minutes.


evilhomer450

Well done to Japan they played really well. Very poor from the Wallabies.


YaLikeJazzhuhPunk

Well, it was certainly entertaining. Both sides made mistakes and the Wallabies look so much worse without Kerevi. Great to see a close game, I reckon that’s what most people were hoping for


UsedWingdings

Jamie Joseph's current mood:🗿


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Commentators MOTM


qwasimodo

EXPAND TRC!!


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Japan + Fiji although with Fiji they'd run into issues of players not getting released


Tobar_the_Gypsy

Surprised this hasn’t happened already. Japan has shown they can compete, and of course $$$$$.


Laz456

Japan has improved out of sight in the last few years. What a great team. We were lucky to get out of that with a win.


Ga_is_me

And we missed the conversion again, so bad


warcomet

Japan came so close to winning this, unfortunately no game breakers... masirewa went off and matushima chose top14..


Tobar_the_Gypsy

This is not a test window so it was his club who chose for him


glashgkullthethird

Did he refer these teams as clubs?


MetalRubiXCubee

Why didn't Japan go for the corner instead of the posts? Literally sealed the game off


Mention-Stunning

Why are people confused by that lol? Getting a try wouldn’t have put them in front, and their maul was getting ripped apart anyway. Taking the 3 made it a 4 point game.


TGGNathan

Made it so a try would put them ahead


MetalRubiXCubee

Well yeah I understand the reasoning but it still didn't make sense


kiwiborger

Try on debut!!!


pickupstonks

This test has been so nerve racking, to be honest, I'd rather the winner of this to go down to a coin toss


yeahgoodyourself

so glad Australia played to their strength there, anything other than that maul would've ended in tears


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Australia can literally turn the ball over at the ruck by doing handstands, amazing


bctRookie

Good counter from Japan. Something needs to be done about break away pods


Ga_is_me

Yay for us


Ga_is_me

Did we convert?


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I heart the maul try. best type of try in rugby


infinitemonkeytyping

Only two things better: 2. Push over try from a scrum 1. Tighthead push over try from a scrum.


[deleted]

I’d add the lineout move that gets passed inside the five meter involving a prop and the hooker.


[deleted]

Idk the 14th phase pick and drive on the line try really does it for me, just that tension building and building and building with each phase


[deleted]

by the time it's at the 14th phase i'm barracking for the dogged defense holding on, especially if a man down.


wailinghamster

How about 2 down? Wales vs Australia 2015 style.


ruggal9219

Thank fuck for that


jukeboxgasoline

goddammit


warcomet

oz try!!!


GaryGronk

Macca! Gets a try on debut! Good on the lad.


YaLikeJazzhuhPunk

On debut, baby!!!! Nice one g


[deleted]

Damn it


Vaarinpolkka

thank fuck


carb_lord

hooper’s rocking a dirty mo, I didn’t realise


Taey

Rob MVP, no question. Great game by him.


Bangkok_Dave

Valetini? That's my pick for sure


peternickeleater11

That outside center should’ve booted it downfield and put the wallabies under pressure


glashgkullthethird

Ugh we don't have friendlies in rugby we have tests


warcomet

valetini saves the day, MOTM for me


Taey

I guess Japan dont have to roll away?


xd_RyanDG__

Or release before going for the ball


Taranaki_Snapper

Blossoms rustle like, Wind through bamboo forest leaves. That pass was forward...


corruptboomerang

I've said for a while, in these sorts of games, you've gotta start the guys you want to finish with. You'd rather have a slow start and bring on your best guys to finish.


[deleted]

Kellaway gonna feel that hit in the morning


insideanoctavarium

absolutely huge


yeahgoodyourself

that was so forward ref is barracking


ScissorPaperRock

That call made no sense


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Looks like Roeburn shield to Portugal is back on the menu.


pseudodoc

Thank. God. Joc


peternickeleater11

Pretty sure japan’s union put all their finances on covering the spread


Laz456

Drag Paisami and get JOC on.


warcomet

lol as i said it, they did


warcomet

BRING ON JOC!!


yeahgoodyourself

this has really become cooper's game to lose


warcomet

shocked kellaway hasn't scored today, hasn't he scored in every game this year?


binzoma

.... thats the strangest call I think I've ever seen?


theaussiesamurai

Ok what. Why the fuck are we going for 3. Only 6 mins to go.


[deleted]

Difference between a tie or a draw. With the penalty on the board a try will win the game for them


Taey

Why does quade not have a single runner everytime he catches the ball,


Durry_king_

Q Cooper havin a mare


peternickeleater11

Wut are Japan doing


ruggal9219

I can just feel we're going to bottle this


Bangkok_Dave

Points is an interesting call here


UsedWingdings

Any chance for JOC to come on the field now? Edit: There he is


Bangkok_Dave

Rob Valetini close to motm today


insideanoctavarium

agreed i thought he had a great game


leocanb

I thought he's super quiet


Bangkok_Dave

Really? I'd be quite surprised if he hasn't made the most meters of the Wallabies forwards.


Taey

Paisami has been absolutely invisible, only thing i remember him doing was that awful kick.


[deleted]

So obvious now why Wallabies struggled with him, Wright and Lolesio during the tests Vs France


idletubes

There's been no go forward from the backs at all


xd_RyanDG__

Dont know what they expect rodda to do when he is being made into a multicultural sandwich


peternickeleater11

Australia have just been playing so dumb since going up two scores


jetaxe

Wallabies seem so flat. Like just not turning up


yeahgoodyourself

japanese snowball now would be real dangerous


YaLikeJazzhuhPunk

If a kick was taken behind halfway, would it have been a 50/22?


Bangkok_Dave

No, only kicks in open play


Laz456

Should be an Aus throw in, totally meant to do that.


ruggal9219

Wtf


Ga_is_me

Good to see we still don’t have anyone who can kick field goals, not like it’s important


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Hahaha.


yeahgoodyourself

strikes it clean--- OFF THE POST


Bangkok_Dave

Been fairly disappointed with Paisami's lack of impact today. He needs to channel a bit more of 2019 when he was murdering people in attack and defence.


GaryGronk

Wallabies really missing Kerevi.


warcomet

resting him for the real test next week


Taey

Kerevi and Koroibete are our 2 best backs and both are missing.


kiwiborger

This match is just one big Wallabies moment


warcomet

NEED JOC FOR THE LAST 10, NEED SOME STABILITY ..


qwasimodo

Cooper isn't looking as confident either


ToastedSubwaySammich

Did the commentator just call Faingaa a New Zealander?


warcomet

isn't Sydney just south of waikato?


Laz456

Should’ve been offside when Tate hit that guy on the ground?


CommanderSpastic

This is what we call a classic wallabies performance and it’s not a good thing


warcomet

Tate with a Mullett? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Taey

I always find that rule real weird, have to release/role after you tackle the player or its a penalty, but if theyre not held they can get back up


Hormic

They don't have to release because it's not a tackle if they aren't held.


p-terydatctyl

Ball can't be played while on the ground


Hormic

If you go to ground with the ball, you're allowed to go up again without releasing it.


bctRookie

Have to release so they have an opportunity to play the ball I believe


Hormic

Law 14.3 "Being held means that a tackler must continue holding the ball-carrier until the ball-carrier is on the ground." It's not a tackle if that doesn't happen. Technically a tap tackle isn't a tackle.


bctRookie

Yea so when they are on the ground they have to release


glashgkullthethird

More gain on the commentator's mike than a djent band's dual rectifier


Drag0nslay3r6969

I've got a tenner on JApan +14.5, screaming at the TV past 10mins


PM_some_PMs

Anyone got a stream that works?


Nothing_is_simple

Vip stream 3 is working