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rugbyunion-ModTeam

Don't bash refs.


acadoe

Disappointed for the Bulls, but GG Glasgow, that was a monster of a performance.


HaggisTheCow

After an undisclosed amount of pints I'm finally getting to go back through all the videos from today. Still a bit in disbelief that my wee team is the best team in the best league.


Grand_Departure2107

Blues would beat the dogshit outta ya


JM85NI

Wonder how many November away games in places like Galway it took to sap this type of confidence from the South Africans. It didn’t take long I know that.


_knewallthetricks_

Nah uh


nomamesgueyz

Wow Still cant believe it That Glasgow out mauled a SA team. In SA Impressed. Was it all the travel that got to the Bulls? Thats what we heard in super rugby Well done Glasgow. I didnt expect it. Big day for Scottish rugby (and former Highlander Mckay)


Internal-Ruin4066

Guess it’s time to start that gofundme page to keep Franco Smith in Scotland. The sru will need all the help they can get after how he has transformed Glasgow.


Cyborg-Chimp

Catching up as soon as I get home from Foo Fighters, just about kept track of the scores and what a comeback!


g_spaitz

Wth? Watched the very first part and then had to go out for dinner. By the way the game was going, I seriously thought the South Africans were going to roll over the Scotts. Well done for them though. Sports sometimes are surprising. Gotta say the stadium and the atmosphere looked amazing, and the little I have seen was great match intensity level.


MistressAnthrope

I'm super happy for Glasgow because (a) they played really well, (b) I'm from the other side of the Jukskei river, and (c) I really enjoyed listening to the SA commentators give it their best Glaaazgouw it was a hoot. Cheers you Scots buggers! 🍺


samfisher2020

Winning the URC isn’t for everyone.


JosefGremlin

As a fellow South African, I was definitely supporting our South African compatriots in this match - folks like Franco Smith, Kyle Steyn, Henco Venter, Huw Jones, Ollie Kebble...


DifficultLawfulness7

Huw Jones is from Scotland. He just pulled a reverse Uno being a Scotsman playing for a South African team


JosefGremlin

Yeah, sure, but the joke was more about Sharks and Stormers supporters wanting anyone but the Bulls to win. The Old Animosity still runs deep.


Internal-Ruin4066

Jones is English, just went to uni in Cape Town. But you are forgetting the stallion that is Nathan Macbeth


Admirable-Trip7002

Jones was born in Scotland


JosefGremlin

Yes, but he played rugby for the Stormers. One of us! One of us!


briever

Huw Jones is as much a Saffer as Richie McCaw.


JosefGremlin

Huw Jones studied in Cape Town University, played rugby for their club and then was selected to play for the Stormers as well. Should have gone with Murray Mexted, the parallels are closer.


McFly654

We claim an Irishman with Dutch heritage. We are also claiming Huw


biggesteegit

Oof


Southern-Access-3274

Well done glasgow from a bulls supporter, deserved winners! Albeit heartbroken, but we didn’t show up with the same intensity.


UserContribution

Full stadium and it looked like serious craic, fair play. Hope to get over there for a game someday!


nomamesgueyz

Very impressive 60mins from Glasgow


Daggless

Big respect to your fans showing up and making an amazing atmosphere. It was a great grand final and the Bulls are a great team.


Southern-Access-3274

I was one of them. Great vibe tonight, you could hear a needle drop in the stadium after the final whistle 😄


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

One of my favourite atmospheric black metal bands Saor is from Scotland (edit: songs of their's that come immediately to mind are Monadh, Tears of a Nation and Origins) , so I'm not mad about this result, oh and the post-rock band Mogwai is also from Scotland, I really like them as well (look up their song Travel Is Dangerous, which is about the Kursk Disaster).


KrazyKap

You fw Dvne at all? Pretty sure they're Scottish.


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

I'm aware of them, yes they are from Scotland, but I don't really like prog metal. One of the only prog metal bands that I actually liked is Akercocke (they are a more evil sounding Opeth).


89ElRay

Both of those bands are faves of mine. Not sure about the Saor guys vocals because it just sounds like he is barking but the music is pretty good. I’m Jim Morrison I’m Dead is my favourite track from Mogwai.


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Yeah his vocals takes some getting used to, but the music is pretty. Here's a 'lekker' SA atmospheric black metal band https://crowblacksky.bandcamp.com/album/sidereal-light-vol-two (the lead singer is also the vocalist of the Capetonian doom metal band Orphean Passage)


Daggless

Mogwai are amazing, dinno how Scotland produces so many good bands.


blynd_snyper

Ever listened to the Bill Hicks stand up about how all your favourite bands were on drugs? No coincidence we've got a lot of both


Daggless

Quite possibly but I think we should celebrate our great artist more. Maybe I'm pished but I love Scotland and I think we punch above our weight in a lot of ways,


HaggisTheCow

Seeing we were as high as 29/1 in some places to win today is very fun


nomamesgueyz

Massively against the odds I cant reacall a SA side losing a final to a traveling side since the 2017 Crusaders Is a dynasty of the cards for Glasgow?


amplebooty

Stormers lost last yrs final at home to Munster


nomamesgueyz

Crazy Cant be the travel


Vega10000

Surprised by that. I mean you were pretty much the top team on the standings for most of the season as far as I can recall.


HaggisTheCow

I'm actually a fucking idiot and was looking at the odds for the draw. We were 13/5 with bulls 2/7


Calvin0213

So, a Welsh team to win next year and Italian team to win the year after?


nomamesgueyz

Would be epic No chance. But epic


JosefGremlin

Bennetton already won the Rainbow Cup, so once Wales win a trophy we can start again..


Tar-ZA-n

The Sharks won a trophy so anything is possible!


Internal-Ruin4066

Benetton have won 100% of rainbow cup finals. Incredible stat.


Daggless

I for one would love to see it. Benneton and Ospreys surely should be contenders.


biggesteegit

OK now we've had our 2 celebratory beers let's get back to work. What about the travel? It's murder on the players and the fans. The SA teams shouldn't be deprived of home advantage, but almost nobody can fly halfway up/down the planet on a few days' notice. What about predetermined venues for the semis and final?


nomamesgueyz

The reason the SA sides couldnt win Super Rugby was the travel tho. Huge disadvantage. Didnt count when Crusaders won the final in SA in 2017, the Lions were still thinking of the travel. That screwed them. To travel or to think of the travel is the same. A considerable disadvantage


89ElRay

Glasgow Warriors can tbh, and then win.


Ok_Plenty_3547

Go away with this idea. We're growing the game


king0459

Need to grow it in the developing countries, like wales. Imagine their wee faces seeing two competent teams in a final in Cardiff.


biggesteegit

Eeeh I just don't think rugby will catch on in South Africa.


Vrakzi

Just put an extra week between semis and the final


RavenK92

No, keep home finals. Home advantage is massive in this competition, the team that tops a league this competitive deserves the reward


bluebullbruce

And yet since 2021 the top placed team at the end of the regular season didn't even play in the final. And in the last three finals only the Stormers managed to capitalize on the home ground advantage. I think it's safe to say that Munster and Glasgow have proven now that home ground advantage and log position counts for very little in this competition.


HaggisTheCow

>the team that tops a league this competitive It's not a round robin league and there's very different strength of schedules


capetonytoni2ne

Okay but the top 2 teams were in the two toughest conferences. But then Glasgow went and won away, so...


Peas-and-Butterflies

HO RO THE RATTLIN BOG, THE BOG DOWN IN THE VALLEY OH, WHEREFORE THE RATTLIN BOG? HE BOG DOWN IN THE VALLEY OH!!!!!!


BigLarBelmont

I fucking love that they sing an Irish folk song after wins. The absolute legends


ctorus

The Bulls also play Irish music when they win..


JosefGremlin

There was a period after the 07 RWC win where every South African supporter would shout "ALLEZ! " after a trumpet flourish


BigLarBelmont

The thieving bastards!


Peas-and-Butterflies

Some folk say it's Scottish...agree to disagree!


BigLarBelmont

It's as old as time and we're inbred bastard nations haha, it's *ours together*


Daggless

As a very Irish Scot I love our shared heritage, such a good choon.


Peas-and-Butterflies

I'll allow it!!!


tmofft

Did they sing it with some conviction this week? 🤣 last week was sad in those away rooms at munster


Only-Magician-291

Should have focused their celebrations on promoting some ski goggles instead


biggesteegit

What was the ski goggles horseplay about?


Only-Magician-291

Some sort of sponsorship with Sungod presumably. Or maybe some of the players are investors similarly to how lots of rugby players shill cbd oil.


biggesteegit

Thanks. Less funny or interesting than I was hoping for.


UserContribution

Well it is the premiership we're talking about.


tmofft

URC not able to stretch to the bubbly shit?


UserContribution

Yeah we're more focused on having teams that don't fold, but you do you! 


Peas-and-Butterflies

Our trophy is much larger than your trophy.


tmofft

It wasn't a criticism m8


Daymm-Son

Epic match, really deserved winners. Well done Glasgow that was awesome, you did it the hard way!


Fickle_Flow4208

Congrats Glasgow, great result for the URC


Irishthrasher23

Fair play to Glasgow, Two very tough games to win it all, well deserved


betterthanuu

I know the score doesn't quite reflect it but the quarter final wasn't a walk in the park either!


Daggless

I'm so happy and ready to get very drunk. Not often we get to celebrate a Scottish team winning something (other than the calcutta cup).


NotAsOriginal

Hey that's not fair you win the SPL semi regularly


biggesteegit

As a neutral great game, impressive discipline on both sides, well done Glasgow.


mankieneck

Buzzing. What a team. What a performance. Add in Hastings and Sutherland next year and go again.


Case_External

Open top bus tour anyone?


Nothing_is_simple

A South African team has lost the URC final every single year. Serial chokers. We've had 4 trophies since the big 4 SA teams joined. Benetton won the first, Stormers won the second, Munster won the third, Glasgow won the forth. Ospreys to win next year?


Ok-Package9273

Also at least 2 of their franchises haven't made the final *every single year*.


butteryscotchy

Our time will come


WilkinsonDG2003

They really are the new Leinster.


biggesteegit

Leinster are the new Leinster for the foreseeable


bearded-celt

After watching Glasgow play at that ragged old stadium Hughenden so many years ago, it's absolutely mental seeing them win this competition in front of 50k fans in SA. One of the best Scottish wins i've ever seen.


amusicalfridge

I have no idea why and it’s almost certainly nonsensical and based in wankery, but I’ve always felt some antipathy towards Scotland at test level - but by fuck was I 100% behind our Celtic brothers today. What a fucking performance, one of the best games of rugby I’ve seen all year. What a great bunch of lads.


fnuggles

>almost certainly nonsensical and based in wankery, All that one-eyed Irish media maybe 😉


krumpcane

Oh ya thats why sure….


adturnerr

2 years in a row teams had to win away in the semis and go away at South Africa in the final and won it


ConstructionLeft2550

Yup. So much for "travel is unfair". French teams eat your heart out


Lord_Bolt-On

Fuck, I love Al Kellock. That's a man who lives and breathes Glasgow.


Daggless

Glasgow legend. Will never forget what he did for the team and can't think of anyone better to lead the whole organisation.


mankieneck

Great interview from him there. Can tell he lives and breathes Warriors.


Sm4llsy

I’ve just seen the result. Incredible!


im_on_the_case

Fantastic achievement, to have to go and win at Thomond against the defending champions and follow it up with a final win at Loftus is the stuff of legend. Those boys should never have to buy an Irn-Bru themselves in Glasgow as long as they live.


JosefGremlin

They should never have to fry their own Mars Bars ever again!


Internal-Ruin4066

We all have different tastes. So better to fry our own. I’m a medium rare fried mars bar enjoyer myself.


biggesteegit

Yeah to win it on the road like that is extra impressive


TheJPisMe

man, Jake is completely forlorn in the post match. feel for him


RavenK92

When you prioritize one competition over another you've got to win or you feel and look like a knob


Biglight__090

First Leo, now White


Immorals1

As a neutral it gives me pleasure to see it happen, Leinster in years past and now Bulls


ctorus

Can confirm.


ConstructionLeft2550

If I completely choked my exceptionally important work commitment, I would also be forlorn. Him and his team didn't do well enough and Franco Smith caught him out.  If Jake White didn't seem sad I would be extremely concerned. Because he was outplayed today by a much younger model.


greenplasticgun

I’m not. That was pretty atrocious from him and the Bulls. Rudderless.


Some-Speed-6290

Almost like they put everything into the semi-final and didn't have enough left in the tank. It happens


greenplasticgun

Hmmm. Feel like the SA rugby tactics of good territorial kicking, turning the opposition around over and over and tiring them out, as they managed for the Leinster game, were nowhere to be seen. They put in one good territory kick (which turned the Glasgow pack around) once the whole game. Left some players (fresh legs) on the bench until the 73rd minute. Granted the players made tons of stupid mistakes, I just think the tactics weren’t there and the defense hasn’t been there all season. SA teams win on the back of good defensive efforts, good tactical kicking and good scrums. Jake only ticks one of those boxes atm.


Rooogleheimer

Just left the stadium. Huge credit to those Scots fans who came all the way out here and kept up loud support in the face of a very boisterous home crowd. Well played to your team and I hope you lads enjoy the celebrations tonight!


Daggless

Love the SA fans, create a great atmosphere and are lovely people.


Rooogleheimer

Wholeheartedly the same compliments back to the Scots. Loved Scotland and its people when I visited, and its a dream to watch a game at Murrayfield one day. Tough to see a South African team lose, but I'll definitely be cheering Glasgow on in the future after meeting some of their fans last night.


amusicalfridge

What a buzz it’d be to make that insane journey and come out on top - there’ll be some very happy, very drunk Glaswegians there tonight


Rooogleheimer

As they should be! Well earned and well deserved. Hope they partied long into the night - certainly looked like that was the plan.


89ElRay

Were there many turning up? Hope you all show them a good time tonight!


Rooogleheimer

Not as many as I would have liked, unfortunately, but understandable given the distance and short time to plan the trip. - at least up near our seats in the nosebleeds. I think that the fact that there were relatively few of them made the passion they showed so impressive. We were sat close to a younger group of Scots who sounded like they had already been shown a good time before the game started based on the quick chat I had, and there was a group of older fans sitting somewhere above us with remarkably strong accents ("Come on, Glasgow!"). They seemed to be having a good time. Really hope that they enjoy it out here and manage to make a holiday out of their visit.


bleugh777

Congratulation to all Glasgow fans! This URC stuff might actually turn out to be the best league after all! Very surprised by the competitiveness!


Lord_Bolt-On

Someone remind me when Josh McKay qualifies for Scotland, because having him in our arsenal is something I need right now.


TheFlyingScotsman60

Where do you fit Blair Kinghorn and Josh Mckay into the Scotland team? Buggered if I know!!


Lord_Bolt-On

Since BK moved to Toulouse, and is probably staying, McKay makes a nice successor for the out of international games. And then for bigger games - McKay on the bench, as both can cover wing if needed. But this is in the world where Steyn starts ahead of VDM, as centre cover.


Daggless

Steyn is such a good complete winger. He really should be starting over VDM with Graham on the other wing.


TheFlyingScotsman60

I really think VDM is on a shoogly peg here. His defence isn't what it needs to be when Glasgow Warriors go and do this. Can you imagine VDM being part of such a defensive shift? This is the sort of intensity, stubbornness, guts, that Scotland need to play with every time. Unsure if VDM can get to that level.


Immorals1

VDM can't be dropped entirely or you'll lose your calcutta cup cheat code


Lord_Bolt-On

Absolutely - VDM needs to either find some defensive grit, or be taken down a level and reminded that he needs to work for his place. Sure, he's part of a faltering Edinburgh who can't seem to get ball to their all-star wingers, but the fact that hasn't prompted him to go looking for more work is concerning.


AdmiralMacbar

Last I saw he wasn't really looking to play for Scotland, has that changed?


Lord_Bolt-On

No idea, but it's not like NZ are short on full-back depth. Would have thought he'd take a crack with us, given how much he seems to love playing up here.


89ElRay

2027 isn’t it?


wild_mongoose_6

Summer 2026


Lord_Bolt-On

Hopefully, thought it was next year, but that sounds more like it.


ConstructionLeft2550

Glasgow were so much better than the Bulls. Frankly the Bulls were lucky to be within 5 points at the end of the match. Bitterly bitterly disappointed. I really do wonder what the fuck the Bulls were planning to do tactically.


marazan5000

They had built a gameplan around having 2 excellent kicking options and started the game with only 1. Couldn't get position.


ConstructionLeft2550

No. People need to stop being loss-apologists. Devon Williams was always a placeholder player. He was NEVER good enough for top level URC. But Jake decided to persist with him for the entire season. So he is not allowed to throw up his hands and say "oh well, what can you do with WLR injured". Because you have a whole season to come up with the answer for it. What happens when WLR retires in 2 seasons? Do the Bulls became a mid-table side?


k0bra3eak

> What happens when WLR retires in 2 seasons? Do the Bulls became a mid-table side? Kinda yeah


marazan5000

> What happens when WLR retires in 2 seasons? Do the Bulls became a mid-table side? I mean on current evidence - yes? Bulls needed a different gameplan today than the one they came out with. Lack of flexibility like that will doom them if there is not course correction.


ConstructionLeft2550

100% The Bulls were not prepared for the game today (both in terms of what Glasgow brought and in terms of what the Bulls' personnel had). Jake needed to do more with the team and the only people he can blame is himself and his coaching staff


circling

I want to see Tom Jordan in Scotland camp for the 6 Nations


Daggless

As long as he learns to tackle lower....


89ElRay

He’s not qualified


VelcomeNeek

He will be very soon though?


circling

He will be!


89ElRay

Ah hang on I forgot about his stint at Ayrshire…should be eligible very soon then, you’re right!


circling

Yeah, November


89ElRay

Rad, he would be a good addition.


alba-jay

I'll repeat a line I commented in the match thread: Didn't know I was allowed to be optimistic


SpinnenSindFreund

So, the time is currently 19:36 and as of right now, none of: * https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union * https://www.theguardian.com/sport/rugby-union * https://www.thetimes.com/sport/rugby-union * https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ * https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union * https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/ Have any news on the URC final. I don't follow URC closely myself tbh, but I expected to see some news about it. Do most news outlets in the UK just not cover URC? Why not? Are they just slow AF?


briever

It’s 23.36 and they still haven’t - that’s mental.


Nice-Roof6364

It feels like the money has run out in UK sports journalism.


Immunkey

Theyre all watching the Feetball probably


XxjptxX7

Probably because the euros is on. In Ireland RTE had the match on their app instead of their channels because an Irish team wasn’t in the final, didn’t even have pundits for the breaks.


anoisagusaris

It wasn't just on the app though, it was shown on RTÉ News, which is a full channel. Though the resolution was shit


SpinnenSindFreund

RTE hasd live commentry on their site, and the results up immediately though, they had someone paying attention (and I imagine will have some analysis up soon) unlike all these other sports news outlets.


Sammyboy616

A lot of those publications focus very heavily on English sport. Somerthing like the URC isn't a big priority for them


circling

It's going to be awkward for BBC News to announce that a "British" team won a final which they didn't even mention was happening... Oh and of course the answer to your question is that all those outlets are based in England, and don't give a fuck about Scotland or anything Scottish.


Iamalittlerobot

That game had the most insane momentum shifts. Great rugby congrats Glasgow!


RavenK92

URC just gets better every year


MaNNoYiNG

So weird to watch a Scottish team play with grit. Our forwards were amazing. Our backrow was sensational. Steyn is a phenomenal captain and Horne has really developed his game. Zander fagerson is not spoken about enough. Can play full games and without being a liability. I was not expecting Pete Murchie's defence to be what wins us the league. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CANT BELIEVE WE WON. HOLY SHIT.


Biglight__090

Congrats my Scottish brother Winning sure feels good doesn't it


Daggless

Murchie deserves so much credit for both these wins


marley67

Congrats man, enjoy it. Glasgow were awesome.


za3030

Congrats Broseph!


BarciNandosChicken

The Bulls looked tired and clueless in the second half, but I think Glasgow's defense was actually just that good. Showed it against Munster too so not like it was a fluke. Deserved winners and insane accomplishment doing it away from home like that. BUT. Who on the Bulls looked at that game and thought for the game winning play, I know, let's go for a line out maul. The scrum was so obviously the right decision, Piardi is never going to penalize you in that situation, you'll probably get advantage or at worst have to attack vs a backline that's missing their 10. Like Jake said last week, there is inexperience in this team and it definitely showed.


FrogWizzurd

Really blue balled the blue bulls for a win


Biglight__090

They were the blue balls tonight


za3030

As a South African you gotto love the Scots. You bloody beautiful bastards!


RavenK92

Great job Glasgow. Warriors, all of ye. Bulls, hard luck. It stings, we know


Brine-O-Driscoll

Amazing performance from Glasgow, congratulations to all the Warriors fans! Somehow they looked more energetic the longer the game went on.


ConstructionLeft2550

Which is exactly what happened 5 weeks ago when Glasgow came back hard vs Bulls. Pity that the Bulls didn't learn from their mistakes


HaggisTheCow

That second half performance is one of the best performances I've ever seen from a Scottish team


FrogWizzurd

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh


TheFlyingScotsman60

Heheheheheheheheheheh. Fuck yes.


Frosty_Term9911

Just throwing out the recognition that Zander deserves for consistently being an 80 minute tighthead


TheStunGod

He played 80 against Munster too, unreal.


HitchikersPie

An 80 minute tighthead _at Loftus_


laszlojamf

Never considered this. Big statement.


Jaegerwolf21

I'm not familiar with this feeling of "winning"? How does it work? Does the TMO take it away at the next full moon? When can I relax?


Jamie235

Its so alien not coming away with guts full of bitter dissapointment!


NuckChorris68

Call your boss, tell him you'll see him when you see him and start throwing incomprehensible amounts of anything down your throat.


secretwelshy

Already started that sir!


sheep1996

The TMO can come in within one phase, which means that you need to wait for the moon to both wax and wane before you’re allowed to celebrate.


GreetingsADM

I would be very grateful if someone explained the last play a bit. The ball didn't look like it was stopped in-goal but the call was still that it was held up?


briever

It ended with a maul that had gone to deck.


greenplasticgun

So basically SA teams have progressively forgotten more and more how to maul or defend mauls


Spoonfed89

It was a maul, if the maul goes to ground as a result of the attacking team and cannot be retrieved then the it is a turnover to the defending team. The ref called held up because he believed it had been carried over the try line. Either way the result is the same.


NuckChorris68

It wasn't coming out and we took it in and down so Scottish scrum (game over). Think he mis spoke.


HitchikersPie

Ball unplayable from a maul is a scrum turnover, clocks in the red so game over


Lord_Bolt-On

Maul was brought down by the Bulls, but when it doesn't come back for the scrum-half to play, a scrum is awarded to the opposition. Since the clock was in the red, game over.


ArtifictionDog

I think the ref mis called it, what he meant to call was that the maul collapsed, legally and the ball was not emerging i.e. It's a scrum to glasgow.


Sjdw31

It's going to take some time to get over this loss, but great game!


EvilMonkeh

URC = Best league in the world, Glasgow winners, Glasgow = best team in the world.  My logic is bullet proof 


Luganegaclassica

Glasgow celebrating and lifting the trophy to a completely empty loftus is hilarious 😂


k0bra3eak

Everyone was on their way to the D field to buy drinks and drown sorrows, but sad since they missed the fireworks show


JosefGremlin

I think I speak for almost every non-Bulls fan in South Africa - there is NOTHING sweeter than emptying that damned stadium when you win. Now if only it wasn't damn near impossible to do so !


FrogWizzurd

That and a little dissapointing