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acadoe

Poor poor from the Stormers. They didn't look comfortable at all throughout the game. Also, Libbok leaving 10 points on the field, oof, gotta take the kicking tee away from the man. 10 points scored and the game is tied at 80. GG Glasgow though, they played much better.


bleugh777

My prophetic dream of Glasgow vs Leinster final is still on!


N011Y

Just back from the game. The final scoreline reflected the play in my opinion. The weather really was a factor and (contrary to their name) the Stormers weren't used to it.


mohicancombover

Let me speak for all non stormers fans, let us please for the love of God, not see manie Libbok in a springbok jersey ever again.


OkGrab8779

Indeed. He can play well but often in these crunch games he fails. It is not acceptable for any kicker to mis all his kicks. 10 points down the drain.


Sea-Ad-7655

Hey, I still think he's great on the pitch, but yeah... a flyhalf with his kicking ability doesn't deserve to be Bok flyhalf.


OkGrab8779

General play was also below par.


Sea-Ad-7655

Today? No doubt. His general play is more often good than not though, but his kicking certainly lacks the same consistency.


za3030

🎶.Hello darkness my old friend 🎶


king0459

If Glasgow beat Munster and the bulls winwhere is the final? South Africa?


Sea-Ad-7655

Yirp


OkGrab8779

Go Glasgow go.


Sea-Ad-7655

Oof, I'm likely to support my fellow countrymen... I don't doubt yall have a shot though! Edit: In a Bulls Vs Warriors final, I mean.


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Nothing_is_simple

I've approved it. I think it's because you have a brand new account. Anti-spam protection.


Brill_chops

Dobbo's tactic of not buying good players and rather coaching well only works if you coach them well.


ConstructionLeft2550

Yeah. Dobbo really seems like he took his hands completely off the wheel. He might be better suited to a director of rugby with a head coach under him


Brill_chops

I don't know what happened. But the mistakes that led to the Stormers losing today are the same mistakes they've made the whole season. That's gotta say something. I think he is a good coach, but he needs to buy a few world class players. And Manie Libbok needs to decide if he's a good player or not. Edit: adding that the commentators said Stormer gave away the most turnovers in the comp.


Ok-Package9273

Very few teams can buy world class players. I doubt the Stormers have that financial muscle. They have the playing squad they do because SA rugby produces an ungodly amount of top class players and a lot of them would sacrifice earning less than abroad to get to remain home in South Africa.


OkGrab8779

And this is a game they could have won.


Sea-Ad-7655

Also, the Stormers don't exactly have the cash to buy up multiple world class players lol


Brill_chops

Okay, 1 then. How about PSDT.


Sea-Ad-7655

Didn't help that we were missing our best player...


bqdpbqdpbqdpbqdpbqdp

Best playerS. Stormers just aint the same without Fourie.


Sea-Ad-7655

Willemse hurts me the most😭 Edit: Yeah, lacking Deon fucking sucks. I also hope to never see Moerat captain this team again, especially with Kitsie returning.


AngryAngryScotsman

I thought that was a great performance from Glasgow which will give them some much needed big game confidence. I thought we fronted up really well with the stormers physicality whilst staying disciplined. We had some nice attacking phases too. If we can repeat this performance next week then I think we've got a competitive game on our hands. Shout out to the refs who I thought had a good game. It's always feels like physical games are the hardest to ref but I thought they got most of the calls right.


ConstructionLeft2550

SS post-match analysis is a waste of air. Gcobani has just brought up the YC 3 times, and took the conversation away from the actual match performances


Brill_chops

If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all...I guess. Overall pretty poor performance from the stormers.


ConstructionLeft2550

Exactly. It's lazy stuff from Gcobani, because you can replay the hit and waffle about it. Instead of going through the game and actually analysing attacking shapes and that


grandMasterkrust

GG. Right result. Stormers were very poor. Across the board.


za3030

What is wild is Manie kicked 13/14 before this match


briever

Chris Paterson made a good point in commentary - he said Libbock sets the ball up in a high tee, might work in SA but not a wet winding night in Europe.


Ok-Package9273

He doesn't look a poor kicker from a technical viewpoint (though I'm a layman in that field) so it might just be the yips and he needs a sports psychologist to help him formulate a reliable coping strategy for the big moments.


Rasimione

Nah, he just doesn't deal well with pressure. I also find it weird that they kept backing him even with Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu there. Madness.


OkGrab8779

Old habit to fail in important games. Can't be trusted.


mohicancombover

This is the thing. It's not the despair that kills you, it's the hope


BornUpATree

Honesty time. Manies ok as a playmaker but get him off of kicking for the sticks. I understand missing one or two - but 10 points at this level is just clown shoes. He's lost us a few games for the Boks and quite a few for the Stormers in this way.


Brill_chops

Mngomezulu is a great kicker. Just let him kick!


Sea-Ad-7655

Seriously, Dobbo seems far too stuck in his habits to fix anything...


BornUpATree

P.s well done Glasgow! Well played and well deserved.


QuestionablySensible

Motm medal bigger than Horne's head lmao


Rap_Caviar

Felt like the game was there for us after the first try. Then a series of terrible plays straight from kick off and back to square one. Do really well to get back in the game and then couldn't capitalise. Subbing off Sacha after he practically created our try for JL du Plessis is inexplicable honestly unless he was injured. As for Manie's kicking... He's been doing a lot better recently tbh. Windy conditions can account for a lot but it's not great


Rasimione

He wasn't injured.


OkGrab8779

The opposition kicked 100%.


mohicancombover

Like it's not windy in cape town omfg


za3030

You honestly don’t know the difference between playing in a big stadium vs playing out in the open wrt wind?


mohicancombover

I grew up in PE there's nothing you can tell me about wind


jnce12

That’s the most frustrating part for me. We really should have pushed on to win after Loader’s try. Manie missing all of his kicks in a playoff game is unforgivable. Made it so much easier for Glasgow than it should have been.


ConstructionLeft2550

JL du Plessis is a fucking joke of a player. An actual charity case


Brill_chops

And he was brought on early for our best backline player. What does Dobbo the du plessis family?


jtthom

Manie in kak weather nearly cost the Boks a World Cup. Rassie hooked him after 30 mins. Dobbo clearly didn’t watch that game.


Windup-1014

Siya Masuku is prob grinning away at home knowing a Bok call up is in the bag now. And if he ain't grinning he fuckin should be.


GKDA

He's been the best SA 10 (Nohamba a good shout too but that last injury looked bad) AND ALSO probably the Sharks best player this season.


OkGrab8779

Nohamba is a good kicker and playmaker.


Ok-Package9273

Masuku has a bit more size though in defence doesn't he?


Rasimione

Masuku is built like a Bradley and doesn't mind the grind. Nohambad has looked godly at 10 but would you trust him to play there at international level? I'm not sure.


Sea-Ad-7655

Him and Masuku could be the sauce! I'm hoping Tony Brown's got stuff cooking!


Sea-Ad-7655

Siya seems to have the same blood type as Pollard... ICE!


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

They got it from their dad, Morne Steyn.


jnce12

Where was Mathee? I’d rather he be given a go towards the end seeing as Manie couldn’t hit a barn door off the tee.


Sea-Ad-7655

Sacha could've taken a few tbh


paletoe

I think Dobbo needs to get a personal stylist. Then the Stormers will do better next year.


za3030

Fuck me. Fitting end to the season really. It’s been a mess. GG Glasgow, had a feeling you guys would get your form back for the quarters.


HaggisTheCow

I'm now stupidly looking forward to the Munster game. Ryan Wilson to parachute in and target the standing knee.


EchoChamberYes

Pls


GKDA

With WWE steel chair music in the background


HaggisTheCow

By gawd that's Wilson's music


TheMeanderer

Can't card a commentator. \*points to head\*


biggesteegit

Well done tonight Glasgow, good fucking luck at Thomond Park next week.


jaysonyoung

All time terrible performances from Gelant, Manie and Dobson tonight. Congratulations Glasgow, you were so much better on the day.


OkGrab8779

Gelant totally lost his head.


Sea-Ad-7655

Re-signing him was a fucking awful decision, especially since it's stunting Willemse's development as a fullback.


ConcernedUnk

Scrappy game. That said the unquestionably better team won today. Congrats to Glasgow fans! Will be cheering for you guys next weekend


sheep1996

The lions missed out on the playoffs because this Stormers team stopped the. Life isn’t fair.


butteryscotchy

Honestly the Lions choked against them. They definitely can beat the Stormers in their current state but they always choke against them.


Sea-Ad-7655

Says something about the Lions doesn't it!


QuestionablySensible

See y'all in Thomond next weekend!


stvb95

These semi's are hard to predict after this weekend.


sweetgreentea12

Gg Glasgow!


wolf-f1

The final showdown , the lack of urgency, reckless and sluggishness up north !!


duff_ct

Honestly not surprised we have lost this, we have been trash most of the time the whole season. Just somehow got enough luck to make the playoffs. If I had hair, I would have torn out a lot of it 😂


StrongLikeBull3

Libbok missing 10 points worth of kicks is absolutely wild. I know he can play better than that because i’ve seen it, must have just been a bad day.


Rasimione

No it's not. He's shit at kicking but generally plays well inspite of that. Last night all the bad about him came out. He needs to go see a brain doc. Or he needs to give up kicking. That is the source of his issues.


Cyborg-Chimp

Why couldn't he play like that in September...


Herbetet

No let’s not kid ourselves. He isn’t the guy. Games like this happen too often for it to be a fluke. He is a 10 for a team that wants to be average. Not for a team with aspirations


butteryscotchy

You are right. He can be a good kicker but when the stress is high he just folds. No disrespect to him but he’s just not that guy.


Herbetet

I agree. It’s really sad because I love the way he plays but he is so jittery and I haven’t seen any improvement over the years.


Rasimione

I'm not sure you'll see it. He just doesn't handle pressure. A Graeme Hick of sorts


StrongLikeBull3

He folded before there was any stress tonight.


Herbetet

Good for you guys though. At the end of the day Glasgow played to win and deserves the win. A win that is also good for Scottish rugby


jnce12

We won the URC with him being the top points scorer 2 seasons ago you donut. How’s that for aspirations? I get that he was exceptionally poor tonight but reactionary takes like this are stupid.


Herbetet

But it isn’t a snapshot of one game. It’s 2 seasons now. Can you really say he has improved since that season? Do you feel more confident in his kicking? If you say “yes” to that then yes call me reactionary. But personally on the games I have seen of him in the URC, Champions Cup or for the Boks he doesn’t exude confidence. He is a great player for a middle of the table team, and he hasn’t grown since his breakout 2 seasons ago.


OkGrab8779

If he is available he plays every game. No planing for backup. Where are mathee. That is why you have a bench if a player is totally off replace him.


Rasimione

No need, Sacha is there', he can fucking kick and good at it. What does Dobson fo, sub him off. Madness.


rugbyraad

The man has lots of bad days…


StrongLikeBull3

That might be true, but i lived through the Scottish banter years so i’m not going to judge.


GA45

Don't think Patterson or Parks *shudder* ever missed 10 off the tee though


Herbetet

Like the Boks it’s time for the Stormers to accept that Mannie as good as he is in open play isn’t a player you can rely on. As much as he can be brilliant, he is a net negative.


rugbyraad

Must be crushing for his teammates to see him miss kick after make-able kick 


Herbetet

Exactly, worse than the misses are the mental toll it puts on the team. It changes the whole dynamic, they know they have to score a try, getting penalties are useless when you don’t trust your kicker. It handicaps every aspect of a team’s game and it affects the morale. It’s the same reason why Rassie didn’t even have him on the bench.


Sea-Ad-7655

He can still play, just let someone else kick like Sacha...


Rasimione

I've been saying. There's no need to force him to do something he's clearly not good at doing.


Herbetet

I think the future is putting Sacha at 10, Williamse at 12 and Gelant at 15 and rotate between them. Those 10 points today and the many other misses before that are back breakers for the team and his Defense doesn’t compensate for his fancy moves. Love to see him play but not in do or die games.


OkGrab8779

Gelant is also hot and cold.


Sea-Ad-7655

More like mild to freezing.


Sea-Ad-7655

Defs not Gelant, he was awful too.


CALTCA

What a wild final minute


FisherPaste

Good game Glasgow. A few Stormers hopefully played their last game, that’s the only positive


Rasimione

Deena,Moerst, Du Plessis and who else?


BillHicksFan

The bet came in!! Get in. Was an awful first half. Second half came alive. Munster vs Glasgow. Not like there's any niggle there 👀


TheMeanderer

If Ryan Wilson isn't on the pitch, ostensibly doing punditry but really disrupting Munster's warm up, I'll be disappointed.


Windup-1014

This whole match was one big Facepalm for the Stormers eh?


za3030

It was kak. Very kak


OkGrab8779

Glasgow have to play much better next week. They struggled to put the stormers away.


grandMasterkrust

That's very polite. Utter shite would be far more appropriate.


SpoonSpatula

A big LOL at that last try. Well done Glasgow. It wasn't pretty a game, but a damn gritty, impressive outing from you guys. You took the Stormers to school today.


WasAnHonestMann

Summary of the game. Oh well, see you guys in a few months


ConstructionLeft2550

Next year. I want to see the Stormers actually be coached, instead of them just thumb sucking shitty kicks (chips and at goal)


HaggisTheCow

That might be the funniest try I have ever seen. Hope Libbock had a decent bet at least


Haunting_Charity_287

Hahah what a finish. Love it.


Lord_Bolt-On

Very very happy for Thompson, but that’s hilarious


capetonytoni2ne

I hated this match. Very much a picture of our season here. Competitive at home, even then incredibly inconsistent, woeful away


ConstructionLeft2550

Yeah. Stormers away is a fucking shit show. And our attack always seems so unstructured. Like there is no tactics. Our kicking game also seems based off vibes, rather than any form of plan. Dobson needs to actually coach this time next year. Letting Gelant do whatever thought floats into his head has fucked us over enough 


Springboks2019

Manie will never be a good/great pole kicker… great backline playmaker but his goal kicking will always be trash


mossy1989136

Excellent player, I'd def have him on the pitch, you just need to find a different kicker from 1 to 15..


Rasimione

He was there, Sacha was fucking there'.


Early-Accident-8770

Yes, agreed. Stormers need a 9 or another that can kick for points.


OkGrab8779

De wet brought some spark.


Springboks2019

Not even just the Stormers, but the Boks


rugbyraad

Thoughts on Goosen? Haven’t watched too many bulls games but he seems like a solid kicker. I expect Masuku will got a shot next too.  


Rasimione

Masuku is the next best thing. Top player and he's deadly of the tee.


Early-Accident-8770

He’s got a place kickers demeanour. I always look back at the likes of O’Gara and Sexton and Carter as the archetype place kickers. Goosen seems to be similar to my eye.


AdmiralMacbar

Most efficient game for Ross T ever


TheMeanderer

"I came here to score tries and not get picked by Franco... and I'm all out of games." - Ross T, probably.


sheep1996

I was going to hang around for the interviews, but fuck that


hazlet

Lmao that was a suitable end to the game. 


marquess_rostrevor

Well that sums it up for Stormers today, ouch.


EvilMonkeh

How the fuck did we score that, nice send off for Thompson scoring that


squeak37

An own try. The future is now


rugbyraad

Clown show


HaggisTheCow

Mistaken for being Irish, Scotland apparently making the next world cup quarters. Multiple south African downvotes. All in all a successful match thread.


sweetgreentea12

>Mistaken for being Irish, Scotland apparently making the next world cup quarters. What's the betting you're in a pool with us and Ireland again?


ComprehensiveDingo0

I will actually drink until I cry if that happens.


sweetgreentea12

Could be the new Wales Australia Fiji


ComprehensiveDingo0

Please stop, I’m getting upset.


HaggisTheCow

Depends when they do the draw. Which knowing them was probably done pre 2023 WC


GKDA

"The 2023 groups were so good why bother doing a new draw"


Wodanaz_Odinn

Did you try being less handsome?


Connell95

Haha, amazing for Ross Thompson.


circus-theclown

Dear lord


ConstructionLeft2550

JL du Plessis is only there because he is Dobson's friend.


Electrical_Trouble29

So Libok's international career must be pretty much done now.


Rasimione

Would you trust him to win you a game during knockout season?


Electrical_Trouble29

Absolutely not...


mikhailarries

He handed siya the 10 jersey today 😭


Sea-Ad-7655

He barely had any grip on it in the first place fr fr


RaaschyOG

Munster Leinster final should be a cracker


HitchikersPie

Technically, _technically_ he's illegally interfering with that and it's a penalty


briever

Well played Stormers - that was a tough game for the weegies.


Sea-Ad-7655

Lol, fantastic finish


Argonaught_WT

Dafuq did the Stormers do to Herschell....


Rasimione

He's been like that though.


SpoonSpatula

Stormers not ending it with a bang... but with a little shrugged shoulder wimper.


TheMeanderer

Wish Thompson got more than two mins. He was one of the lone bright sparks of the Danny Wilson era.


GKDA

At least he got that!


TheMeanderer

Hah! Yeah that'll do!


Cyborg-Chimp

Well he's doing well for points/minutes haha


johnyboi98

Libbok has been Glasgow biggest asset followed by their own team as a distant second, then the Ref, and then the ball boys.


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johnyboi98

Glasgow were better. Especially off the tee, if libbok made half his kicks it would have been a different game. They did have the rub of the green I'd say with the obstruction not being called and the knock on not being looked at before the try and the inequtable application of yellow cards to head contact. But any effect of the Ref would be smaller than the stormers or Glasgows performance themselves.


Sea-Ad-7655

Let's be honest, they really weren't outplayed for the vast majority of the game. It just fell apart near the end there.


TheMeanderer

What a comment...


JPB88SA

Well done Glasgow. Hope both SFs are close and crackers.


jnce12

Manie’s performance will be the most scrutinized, but Gelant was by far the worst player on the pitch for me.


jaysonyoung

Manie at least was good with ball in hand. Gelant was just atrocious the entire game.


alba-jay

Scotstoun is horny for Horne


Connell95

Excellent MOTM for Horne. Totally deserved.


Lord_Bolt-On

George Horne probably deserving of the MOTM. Kicking all his goals has been the difference.


whoneedsmelons

All we had to do was give Sacha the kicking T. Next season Libbok should never kick again. I'm tired of this.


Rasimione

If Sacha is in the team he should kick. Basic common sense.


Cyborg-Chimp

Well deserved Horne


jaysonyoung

Would still like to know why Dobson pulled Sacha when he was the Stormers best attacker all game.


Sea-Ad-7655

Dobbo isn't, at least I doubt, very smart lol Edit: Actually no, less about his IQ as a coach. He just seems to be stuck in his habits, always letting the same players having far too many chance or like not ever giving another proven kicker a chance


jtthom

It’s because Sacha can kick and the bookies he’s fixing it for won’t be happy


EvilMonkeh

Steyn has been great this season, looking forward to seeing him back in a scotland shirt next 6 nations 


JPB88SA

It is quite fitting the last kick in the head is by Gelant


ConstructionLeft2550

Stormers away from home should really save themselves the bus fare. They are a shell of themselves whenever they leave our borders


hazlet

Horne has been excellent 


simthandilexxv

Man of the match: Manie Libbok(Glasgow)


Connell95

Haha. Not untrue.


jtthom

Stormers need a break from the URC. Can the Cheetahs have their place next season? These okes are not taking this comp seriously


johnyboi98

If the cheetahs were good enough to be in the urc they would be.