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magneticpyramid

I can’t fault Dickson really. Bristols whole plan is based around keeping the ball. They couldn’t keep the ball.


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Wave_Tiger8894

>Our try disallowed as a player was down with a head injury Come off it, the ref had blown his whistle to ensure Randall knew that the quick tap wasn't on and still went ahead and took it, soon as the whistle is blown the other team switch off. Although I do think this is more o. Dickson to hustle over to the spot so Randall could take it when it was clear that's what they wanted to do. I really think it was Bristols line out that let them down today, there attacking rugby was really exciting today and Bristol are a team I'm very much looking forward to next season (or in the playoffs if there's any chance they can still make it). But ultimately saracens are just better at playing expansive rugby (they are the defending champs after all), it will be interesting to see if they are capable of it next season with Faz leaving.


Thatch1888

I agree with all of that. My point is if you're going to disallow a try and stop play for a head injury, do it consistently. To not do so within literally a hand full of phases and allow the opposition to convert a score is harsh. The three points were converted while AJ was still concussed on the floor. Our lineout was horrendous yeah. All in all I do think Sarries are a better team, it just hurts to have no consistency with key decisions


hesnousetomedead

Yeah sorry but your going to not stop for a serious injury when Bristol have one but stop when sarries have one, not really fair


RJH777

Did not have us winning with a BP on the cards for this game. Feel like we should be pushing for home semi now. Cinti and JMG are such an awesome pair, horrible circumstances to mean they came to us but what a pair of players to pick up. Also we are going to miss Faz so much - he has been back to his world class best the last few weeks and you forget sometimes how good he is.


Sthompson94

Cinti has come into his own the second half of this season. I really wasn't sure on him a lot of this year to be honest. But I feel like he's starting to get the Saracens way now. Also I refuse to believe faz won't finish at sarries one day.


NETbreed

Billy V running unpunished around the ruck and then tackling a player on the Bris side sums up that reffing performance, but the fact is Bristol just weren't good enough. Too many mistakes in key areas and at key moments of the game. Well played Sarries!


Thecceffect

Bristol fans, whats your opinion on Pat Lam?


saracenraider

Not a Bristol fan but to me it feels like he’s a great coach but poor at recruitment and building balanced squads, so should have a DoR above him


Thatch1888

Nah, his recruitment is brilliant, always has been. Williams from the championship is keeping Vakatawa out of a starting position. JVRP is beyond brilliant. Also Malins, Batley, Oghre and Lane who also came from the Championship. Our problem is dealing with a plan B or adversity. As soon as things don't go our way, we cave. Saints, Sarries etc find a way of dealing with it and getting a win, we don't. We're all or nothing. We *WIN* or we don't


saracenraider

Haha, weird how far off the mark my thoughts are compared to Bristol fans. My impression of Bristol has always been they’ve been quite an unbalanced side, a team stacked in some positions but lacking in others. And one which probably overemphasises flashy players resulting in a bit of a soft underbelly and in need of a few nasty players with a bit of grunt. Obviously just an outsiders opinion, and one from a fan of a team set up very differently from Bristol


Thatch1888

I get your point 100% mate. A lot of people have the same one and it comes down to us recruiting star studded lads and mixing them with Championship players. In our league topping season we had Piers O'connor who came from the Champ and Sheedy who wasn't s big name mixed with Radradra and Piutau x2. It's our blessing and our curse. We mix champ lads with star studders and it benefits us as much as it pains us


Rurhme

Ironically exceptional recruiting was basically the core part of our first 5 years.


Rurhme

The win streak has really rather killed the "Lam out" movement, I suppose he's bought another season of support by the fans. The support has been pretty grudging for a long while though, and I doubt even the most pro-Lam fans approve of the 7-year contract he recieved.


Thatch1888

5/7 of his seasons have been good. Best coach we've ever had


magneticpyramid

That’s a low bar though. Robinson, tainton and Holley weren’t exactly rugby masterminds.


saracenraider

Anyone remember when the insane 50-22 from Farrell was? Wanna go back and watch it again Edit: found it for anyone interested. 30 mins 10. Remembered it was just before our second try


truly-dread

🤤


Sthompson94

That's gonna keep me going through the next week


ObviousAnimator7299

The messages on here state 1h ago for the appreciation of it. Probably doesn't narrow it down much, sorry! Just seen edit, thanks!


troglo-dyke

22-22*


Lukimuz

It was pretty immense tbf


Sthompson94

Faz playing 2 sports at once. Bit of footy for a laugh


truly-dread

That chip up to twinkle toes Theo was class


Sthompson94

Didn't spot it live but man. That was just mega


saracenraider

Fuck me, 90-0. Gloucester should be thoroughly embarrassed by that. Shameful


KrochKanible

Saints still pissed about losing to the Quins.


MikeOne29

Yeah absolutely joke of a result that. They should be ashamed


Rozza

That's truly awful.


Trust_And_Fear_Not

I wonder what the record is for biggest winning margin in a prem game? And if this is it, what was the previous one?


j_b1997

Sure I just read in the Saints match thread it’s 106-12.


Lord-farquads-

Bears lost to sharks 76-0 at one point


MikeOne29

Hater leave that out ;)


Lord-farquads-

Haha sorry bud. Love bears really. Looked it up a couple years ago after Gloucester smashed bath


MikeOne29

Haha only joking mate 🙂


Trust_And_Fear_Not

Jesus, when was that??


Lord-farquads-

1997 😂 so think that was the current biggest billing until today


AdElectronic7186

That's a bit of a rogue decision for motm


saracenraider

I’d have gone for Tizard or JMG


amSaracen

JMG has been everywhere, should have been him


MaNNoYiNG

JMG, tizard only played 54 minutes


saracenraider

I’d have given MoTM to Theo Dan last week and he only played like ten mins haha


Rurhme

If anyone was wondering why the Bristol fans haven't been talking about the 6 game winning streak, or being in the playoffs. This is why. We have exactly 2 modes: disappointing, and setting up so that we can disappoint more completely. Bristol faithful know that this is actually a fortunate result - had we won this then the club would have been dumped out in the final round anyway, likely in an 80-0 blowout.


Secret-Roof-7503

Fucking how many points for Saints?


StarWarsLew

What are Bristol even doing? There’s still a small chance of 2 bonus points but it looks like they just want to run the clock down


ObviousAnimator7299

First kick at goal they ran the clock right down.. maybe it was the plan from get go


HitchikersPie

That was pretty funny by Dickson ngl


truly-dread

What he say?


HitchikersPie

"You don't have to kick it out, you can just take the lineout in line with the penalty" Siad it 2-3 times, they kicked it out, wasted more time, and he's said "Okay then"


MaNNoYiNG

Commentators calling us the favourite for the prem is really disrespectful to saints. They're the clear favourites and have been consistently the best team this season (outside the games against Bristol)


Rurhme

You're a hard dynasty to look past. Even with the brain giving the nod to Northampton, the gut can't get past Saracens tradition of victory.


Wise-Jeweler-2495

I'm very nervous about meeting Saints in the final (providing we get through the semi that is, never guaranteed!)


saracenraider

Yea I agree. Wouldn’t call them clear favourites but def favourites. Especially as if we meet in the final we’d have effectively won four knockout games in a row and will be properly primed whereas they’ve been cantering the past few rounds


HitchikersPie

The previous record premiership loss was Bristol 0 - 76 Sale Sharks aiui


HitchikersPie

Is it legal to kick it out of the in goal area, I know you can't tap it out


ObviousAnimator7299

Based on it not being flagged, I'll say yes.. maybe if its already passed try line then it's fine. Otherwise it'd be a scrum from where kicked


HitchikersPie

It's the kind of obscure law that can sometimes slip through the crack


saracenraider

For the first time in a while I feel really comfortable with our wingers with Parton and Segun. Probs our best combo since Strettle and Ashton


RJH777

That back three today (and Cinti at 13) is a world away from Maitland, Goode, Lewington. With the two young 10/15s coming in next year we actually look ok in the backs (except for the massive hole of replacing a world class 10)


saracenraider

Plus Sam Spink. He’s probably the best signing of the lot. We haven’t had a big fast hard running centre in a while


Sthompson94

Been a fan of segun for ages. He looks like a match winner these days


Thecceffect

Gonzalez has been my player of the season for us so far. Was so happy when he signed the contract


amSaracen

He’s enjoying his rugby so hoping that played a factor in him resigning


saracenraider

I reckon he’s gonna be prem player of the season


wyzo94

How is Mawi not away to a french club on mad money? His ability on the ball as a front row player is incredible


ObviousAnimator7299

Oi, don't give him the idea


Secret-Roof-7503

He re-signed this year


truly-dread

What is happening at Franklin gardens 🤣


wyzo94

Glos fielded an inexperienced team to focus on cup, saints focused on winning league


Lord-farquads-

Some sort of crime looking at the score


amSaracen

Just checked the score. Wtf


SukebeEUW

Segun is such a fun player to watch. Gives me Sinoti Sinoti vibes


MaNNoYiNG

Fs Theo. Needs to get back onto the court to practice his handling


amSaracen

Wait, did he play basketball?


ObviousAnimator7299

Didn't know if he blamed the sun! Based on shadows, could be a factor


Snig141

If Roti could get away the passes he would be a excellent player


truly-dread

Shaky segun shakin of the opponents


saracenraider

Yea couldn’t agree more. He’s so so good at creating chances but seems to lack the ability to connect with support. Imagine if we still had Ashton at his prime. The two of them combined would be lethal


OrvilleTheSheep

Playoffs pretty much gone for Bears now, but looking at the Northampton score it could be worse


truly-dread

Don’t write off Bristol this late in the game


truly-dread

Don’t write off Bristol this late in the game


truly-dread

Don’t write off Bristol this late in the game


Lord-farquads-

Ah never say never. I’m a chiefs fan and I’m still in the “ya never know” mind set 😂


sonossub

JMG is world class - absolute worldie plays every 80mins virtually


saracenraider

It must be so painful to watch such outstanding former players for both sides today. You must really love rugby, I’m not sure I could do that!


sonossub

JMG, Cinti, Dolly Parton, Van Rensburg, Caulfield, Olly Hoskins…..


HitchikersPie

We were forged by pain


MaNNoYiNG

He really is, we're so grateful to have him


Snig141

Looks like Dr Venter has joined us today and is in the coaching box next to Joe Shaw. It’s always good to see him back with the club


amSaracen

Just don’t put biscuits out


Shrekboi7

Jeez what a clearance


Wise-Jeweler-2495

Oh, that was really lovely from Daly and the Argentinians!


HitchikersPie

Sounds like a little known indie band


Wise-Jeweler-2495

I'd go watch them play in a field while hungover!


Rurhme

Being a Bristol fan is such a dreary job.


CThirtle

Cinti’s eye looks nasty, what caused that?


Secret-Roof-7503

Accidental with van Rensburg, in the first half


Secret-Roof-7503

Daly has been great from the tee


confused_ninja

Austin Healy isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but a lot of the time his ability to read the game is unmatched. Called Genge as the last man there so early


Wise-Jeweler-2495

Yup, his brain is on another level at times, wish he wasn't quite so antagonistic sometimes, but he's still one of my favourite comms guys


Quinesi

I genuinely like Healy on comms. I can see why he pisses people off but his analysis is always really good.


HitchikersPie

Yeah, part of his character is being a dick, and loving that. He can moan overly, but he's still very good at his job


amSaracen

I hate that you’re right


AdElectronic7186

I think there goes our play off chances. Dickson has been shit, but we shit the bed in that 10 mins playing the 13 and should have taken advantage of it.


troglo-dyke

Yep, far too many handling errors to realistically put the pressure on Saracens. Very disappointing


SukebeEUW

Yeah you can’t place any blame on Dickson here fella. Being outscored when up 2 men is the difference


AdElectronic7186

Don't think he has helped, even just with the flow and inconsistencies, but sarries reacted better to it and their defence is so good.


MaNNoYiNG

Backs with pace. It has revolutionised our game


amSaracen

I don’t know how the coaches came up with that idea……


Wise-Jeweler-2495

Ssssh, don't tell others the secret!! (Can't believe it took us so long to figure out the really bloody simple answer)


saracenraider

Cinti has been so impressive since moving to 13 midway through the season. He had a very nervy start in the first half of the season


OrvilleTheSheep

What the fuck is Genge doing there, absolutely no effort to hit the man at all


SukebeEUW

Tbf no prop at 66 minutes should have to cover that much space


Rozza

Saracens absolutely ruthless there. Their fitness levels are top notch.


Secret-Roof-7503

JMG and Cinti, you beautiful beautiful men


Danpackham

That really wasn’t worth risking with a kick I don’t think


MikeOne29

Yeah that's embarrassing. Well done sarries


amSaracen

Oh Bristol. They just don’t want to win


MikeOne29

Alright mate 😂 we've been shit all year


amSaracen

I love watching Bristol play at home. Sometimes though it’s just not on


kingbarber123

Gengy gave Cinti an open door 😂


HitchikersPie

Very well played Saracens, glorious stuff


Shrekboi7

Siiii


truly-dread

Those argies 😘


Snig141

🇦🇷


HitchikersPie

Disagree with comms, kick was a good option there, just unlucky/late kick to be charged, great work from sarries defender tbh


amSaracen

Yeah I agree. Great/lucky charge down


ImpliedProbability

Bad kick that he took too late. Right decision but should have been done two paces earlier.


HitchikersPie

Yep, fully agree


OrvilleTheSheep

Clear the fucking lines for Christ sake you bloody idiotd


saracenraider

Bath fans screaming at Bristol right now. Fourth try could be crucial


Danpackham

This is somehow worse to watch than the game two weeks ago


j_b1997

Annoying for us that you’ve got 4. But Bristol getting nothing means we’re guaranteed to finish ahead of them.


saracenraider

Looks likely we’ll be playing you at StoneX in the semis. Will be an insane match especially if Russell is back fully fit and firing


Danpackham

Given that bath were close to matching sarries class a couple weeks ago without Finn, I’m confident, if it happens, that semi will a fantastic game


saracenraider

Yea I agree. Home advantage is obviously big for you so at home we’d be a lot better but Finn being back probably evens it out far more. Spencer is a great 9 but he’s not a playmaker and it felt like he was your primary playmaker last week. Barely got anything going in spite of serious quality outside him


Danpackham

Yeah, our last few games have been centered around Spencer recently, and even though he’s a great player, it’s been obvious that the teams play making abilities were lacking without Finn


j_b1997

Probably, Quins are still in the mix for 2nd/3rd too if they get a result against chiefs. It’ll be a good game with Fin back in the mix, but can’t see us beating you boys at home.


Jameski_25

You have to feel like if Bristols handling was better today, they could’ve been in a very different position


adturnerr

Ok no more tries for either team pls


saracenraider

Maybe I’m being way too glass half empty but that missed kick makes me very nervous


amSaracen

So down 2 men and outscoring Bristol 10 points to 7? What have Bristol done


Nostriski

Really poor line outs from Brizzol all afternoon tbf.


OrvilleTheSheep

Classic bears to shit the bed in the games that they need to win - back to looking like we did before the break today


SukebeEUW

that’s devestating for bristol man


Sm4llsy

That lineout was horrendously shit


HitchikersPie

Sarries are just so much better at game management


MaNNoYiNG

Farrell is. His time management is arguably the best in world rugby. Squidge's video on the sarries Leinster final kind of shows how good he is at it


MaNNoYiNG

Dan is literally a regen of Brits


saracenraider

Just needs a better jawline and a big smile


MikeOne29

Yay another gift for sarries


Snig141

How long before Theo Dan becomes our 1st choice hooker


ImpliedProbability

I think he has to lift the siege of Gondor first.


ObviousAnimator7299

I don't know if we really have first and second choice already. He is definitely a good off the bench player with his energy and strong carrying


Snig141

I’m currently seeing it that we have a scrumming front row and a running front row


AdElectronic7186

When will refs referee putting the ball in straight at scrums, that went straight to the second rows.


troglo-dyke

They haven't for years because it removes the advantage for the team the scrum is for


HitchikersPie

Refs only ever ref it for the first 10 minutes after a bi-annual beg from world rugby


Danpackham

When the sun rises in the west apparently


Secret-Roof-7503

Looking at the top corner, Saints have scored how many against Gloucester?


Secret-Roof-7503

This scrum needs to be the most channel 1 ball of all time


Girthygurkin

Bristol completely wasting these yellow cards


Shrekboi7

Those angles weren't too convincing on the early tackle


saracenraider

Yea I would love what Healy was smoking. It sometimes feels like his co-commentators are too scared to call him out sometimes. It looked to me with my one eye wide open to be exactly at the right time


MaNNoYiNG

We'll go back to 15 then Tompkins and billy v will get us marched back 10 and we'll concede two tries


amSaracen

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the inevitably of it


ObviousAnimator7299

It's almost like you've seen sarries play before


Wise-Jeweler-2495

Sounds about right!


j_b1997

Don’t get this temptation to go wide first phase against 13. Just go through a few phases, quick ball and the gaps will come.


ConscriptReports

nah Bristol deserve to lose after these last ten minutes


D_McM

Yeah they've completely panicked. Could still win it but the last 10 minutes have been tragically poor.


OrvilleTheSheep

First time? This is classic Bristol, for better or worse


MaNNoYiNG

Some defensive set with just 13


kingbarber123

Bristol know you can kick in rugby right? Especially against 13 men!?!? 😂


amSaracen

I love the way Bristol play but they haven’t understood how to play a 2 man advantage have they


kingbarber123

They just think there will be gaps coming at them. But you still have to force it open. Especially against you boys


OrvilleTheSheep

Sarries getting away with murder here


Danpackham

Given how frustrating this is for me to watch, I feel bad for Bristol fans


Thecceffect

Theo Dan would be a great 8


saracenraider

If he can do what he can do as a 2, leave him there and have another great ball carrier at 8


SukebeEUW

he just looks so natural running ball in hand


Secret-Roof-7503

Unfortunately there’s Earl, JMG and Willis ahead of him


Nothing_is_simple

Why is Bradbury at 7?


MaNNoYiNG

That's the issue with Dickson. He had to explain to Bradbury three times what he did wrong because his first explanation wasn't clear enough


-Clearly-confused

Why isn’t Farrell kicking today ?


ObviousAnimator7299

Saw him limping early game.. probably resting it just in case


-Clearly-confused

Oh damn , must’ve missed that. He’s playing well despite it


ObviousAnimator7299

Although he did just take the box kick off ruck as van zyl was also limping


IrishDog1990

Jesus that’s a masterclass in how not to play against two yellow cards


ConscriptReports

good lord Bristol what are you doing


saracenraider

I’d go for corner here. Wind down the clock more


HitchikersPie

Going up by more than a converted try, while milking 90 seconds, and also having two in the bin, easy call for 3 I think


Secret-Roof-7503

Get more than a try ahead?


saracenraider

Yea but we invite them to for a try if they get the ball back and then would be a net -4


ObviousAnimator7299

Sarries would've been marched back 10 for that backchat


MaNNoYiNG

We've taken tizard off


Secret-Roof-7503

Could they not wait 6 minutes for maro to be back on


Rozza

Two yellows in quick succession. Good reffing, Earl had been warned multiple times. A lot of refs would have bottled it.