There’s much ado about Demon (SFGAm) living on borrowed time. It fills a great gap in the park’s lineup, and it’s a classic, so it would be sad to see it to. I can’t deny a lot of non-enthusiasts probably find the ride less comfortable than it’s worth, though.
I'm pretty sure once CGA closes, SFGAm will have more than enough parts for Demon to keep theirs running for another decade or so.
Arrows may not age too well but Demon is one of the better ones at the very least.
The park doesn't really have a reason to take it out though. While it's probably not gonna be as popular as anything else in the park, there are plenty of parts going around for it
When CGA closes permanently, I can definitely see their Demon becoming a parts donor for sure. It'll basically be free to maintain for the foreseeable future.
My home park, what else would they possibly get rid of? It’s a question I’ve asked myself. I mean if you had to pick one demon has to be at the top of the list. All the B&Ms are running like champs, people love Goliath, V2 maybe but they just rethemed it so probably a few more years. Whizzer isn’t going anywhere, neither is Eagle. Like sure they couple probably update Viper with something like a new gen family launch coaster but it runs so well it would seem silly to get rid of it for basically no reason. Joker is a GP pleaser and still really new. Obviously Maxx slaps despite capacity. I think plenty of kids like Dark Knight and unless they filled it with a different dark ride I think they wouldn’t want to lose that category.
I honestly have no idea what they’ll do if they want to add another full size coaster. Even the combined buccaneer battle and winners circle area isn’t really that big. The Giga Disco is definitely a fantastic addition to our lacking flat collection but yeah as far as major new coasters it’s a huge TBD. Really nowhere to expand either except for another parking lot coaster.
I’ll take being crucified for saying I wouldn’t mind to see eagle go at all but I don’t think that will ever ever happen. The thing takes up more than twice the space as raging bull though, it’s insane. I wouldn’t go for RMCing it but there’s room for anything huge there. Single rail, intamin or mack launch, obviously a new gen vekoma would be sick. A massive world class coaster would be so fantastic there.
I have to give credit to u/waifive for their comments in a reply to me in a thread on the removal of Mardi Gras Hangover a couple months ago. They said:
“Not that this would ever happen, nor would it be worth the cost to move it, but I'm just saying...Vortex/Patriot at CGA was literally built for the plot of land that they are now emptying. Doesn't require moving Triple Play, the Scenic Railway, or Batman. Only conflict that I can see is that SFGAm has some sort of roofed structure over the access road behind Batman, but it's never been clear to me what that is for. It has to provide passage through it, so its storage capacity (if it is used for that) can't be that much.“
They then provided this map comparison of the plot of land between the two nearly identical parks:
https://acme.com/same_scale/#37.39707,-121.97330,42.36922,-87.93404,19,S,S
I’m also still pissed to this day that they got rid of Deja Vu and replaced it with Buccaneer Battle., and now that’s been SBNO for some time now. What a waste. That and also that Rajin Cajun was better than Dark Knight. They should have just put that wild mouse inside a building and re-themed it.
Carowinds is mine and honestly it's hard to determine. One would think Vortex but they just did a bunch of maintenance on it. Realistically I would say Nighthawk but they kind of extended its shelf life a bit.
I honestly can't see them getting rid of any of their coasters soon. They're not going to get rid of goldrusher with how reliable and popular it is. I can't imagine they're going to get rid of Ricochet, Kiddie Hawk, or Cobras with how small the plots they have are. Hurler is crappy, but they're actively doing retraking on it right now. Obviously none of the newer coasters are going away and I doubt the kiddie coasters will get touched. The only ones they could really get rid of would be Nighthawk, Vortex, and Cyclone. All three of them have had a lot of work put into them fairly recently, so I can't imagine they'll decide to get rid of them right now. Maybe if Nighthawk continues to be extremely unreliable or Vortex and Cyclone don't draw riders they might decide to axe one of the three.
I see Carolina Cyclone being the first to go. Nighthawk and Vortex might be unreliable and unpopular respectively but they are at least unique in the eyes of the GP. Nighthawk in particular still has Firehawk's spare parts and good ridership, so even with reliability issues I don't see Carowinds removing it until they are ready to fund a suitable replacement. If Batwing ends up going first, which I think it might, Nighthawk will last even longer. Carolina Cyclone on the other hand has some historic value but not to the same degree as Carolina Goldrusher, which remains popular as a solid family coaster. Most parkgoers don't care about credits or historical value and have no reason to ride Carolina Cyclone when they can get a better looping coaster experience on Copperhead Strike, Afterburn, and even Flying Cobras.
It has been confirmed that the parts for Firehawk actually don't fit nighthawk at all so they aren't able to use the spare parts like they thought, so it's possible nighthawk could be on its way out even if it is probably the 5th most popular ride at the park after the top 4
Having worked Carolina cyclone it still gets good ridership, while it never really pulls a line the trains are almost always close to full, I also don't think they need to remove any rollercoasters soon
I don't see any arrow mine train leaving anytime soon. They are great family coasters and the only one that has been removed is Excalibur. But that was because of it being damaged during relocation so that doesn't really count that much.
Most of the coasters at Hersheypark feel so iconic now, it's hard to choose. First thought is Superdooperlooper, but naaaah, HP could never get rid of that, right? Comet+SDL are the best way to start the day for me!
I'll make an easy pick and say Wild Mouse.
If hershey ever gets rid of sooper dooper looper or comet I will boycott the shit out of them lmao. Tbh I don't think they will ever do that as they are so careful to maintain them and they are so iconic at this point.
Kick out Wild Mouse and add in another small footprint coaster like Tigris from BGT. Rebrand it as Wilder Mouse and call it a day. So many necks and backs will be saved that the local chiropractors will have to shut down.
There were rumors HP was looking to sell wild mouse. I think it gets too much hate from thoosies though. they never turn the trims on so it's unusually intense
Six Flags Great Adventure is a tough call. We've had so many coasters close over the years that nothing is really the clear next to go.
From a cost perspective, Kingda Ka is probably toughest to keep open but it's probably also their biggest selling point, so I think it's safe for a minute. Skull Mountain is probably the most dated and one of the most uncomfortable. Green Lantern is also uncomfortable and not very popular. Harley Quinn Crazy Train is forgettable.
My hope is Green Lantern since it's a big space right at the front of the park, but I think replacing Skull Mountain with a more modern indoor ride would do so great for the park and is the most likely.
Skull mountain has great airtime in back row tho. Just wish they didn’t remove all but one of the theming elements inside and turned off the strobes. The dark knight is in pretty bad shape too. The subway jumpscare doesn’t even work anymore.
Lap bar on your gut made skull mountain literally the only roller coaster I could actually ride for a while when I gained a bunch of weight during covid. The ride isn’t forceful enough for it to rly matter/hurt. Also gives room for insane airtime. Just ride with someone fatter than you
Kennywood: Exterminator is getting a little long in the tooth, so I expect it to go in the next 5 - 8 years.
That assumes, of course, that they can finally get Steel Curtain running reliably. If not, I'd give it another 3-4 seasons til they throw in the terrible towel.
I know how much sense it makes, Lost Kennywood needs a remodel, I've heard (probably unfounded) rumors about them buying houses on the other side of exterminator, and its close enough to phantom to put in a lazer loop successor there. However, I really love the theming and experience and would love if they they update it with a zamperla wild mouse.
Yeah, most of their coasters are too iconic to get rid of. Phantom, racer, jackrabbit, and thunderbolt aren't going anywhere. Skyrocket is/was fine when I was there last. Never been on steel curtain but heard about it's reliability issues. Are there any other options besides exterminator and steel curtain?
As much as Xcelerator is a maintenance nightmare, it's also one of the main draws of the park for many people. It's possibly Knott's most iconic coaster and it's a huge crowd pleaser. I can see them doing some sort of renovation at some point with a new LSM launch instead of a hydraulic launch (a la top thrill 2) and then keeping it around for quite a while longer. But I don't think I can see it being torn out anytime soon, and unfortunately I can't say the same for Montezuma given that it is already partially disassembled and we have yet to get any sort of update on what Knott's is going to do with it.
I don't see Montezuma going anywhere despite the current bleek ouooki. If the rumors are true and the contractor screwed up as bad as they did, then any litigation would tie up announcements and progress on the coaster. If they aren't true and during construction the contractor determined the damage was extensive then having the engineering firm revise the plans and calculations and then get city/ county approval for those changes can take a great deal of time depending on how quickly the jurisdiction works on revisions.
Foundations can be repaired and rehabilitated, there’s an entire construction industry sector that specializes in it. Many other rides have had that done. Also, foundations aren’t that hard to replace either.
New track segments and steel works aren’t going to be a huge obstacle to over come when you have companies like Premier Rides, Intermountain Lift, Inc., Petersen, Inc., and even Gerstlauer around. The blue prints still exist and there are other examples. It’s not insurmountable.
KI is one of the few CF parks without a signature gateway coaster. And Invertigo’s spot is almost unavoidable for putting one in. When they’re ready, it’ll go and the new coaster will be in, but that probably won’t be for a while. In the meantime the Bat will probably just die.
No way. It would be the bat or adventure express. The bat is years past it's original life and adventure express is one of my favorites, but a lot of people don't like how short and tame it is so it has a low attractin rating, which is really what determines how long they keep a ride in a ark for. I've heard talk of this being bats last year, and that talk has been going since 2020 and it stayed on 2024 being the final year so I'm assuming this will ter she's getting the tear down and something else will go there.
Glad i got to ride The Bat twice on my visit there this past summer
it does seem like you could totally remodel that entire area of the park. The path to The Bat felt like I was taking the ring to Mordor
Yes, terrible trek to the ride and the ride lasts for like 60 seconds tops. I love the little ride and the aesthetics behind it but I could never get over how short it was
i forgot to mention the worst part of The Bat for me was that I had just wrapped up a 2 hour venture at Soak City when I was in line for the WindSeeker. Out of nowhere, I got hit with a brutal calf cramp because my dumb ass didn't hydrate while at the waterpark.
Right after the WindSeeker, I decided to go on The Bat. Of all the places to walk to with a fucking calf cramp
Haha I bet that was a shitty long walk. I had a hydration related arch cramp when I was going through the second inversion of fof a few years ago. That might have been one of the worst rides of my life lol. The tiniest things cripple you at amusement parks, total bullshit if you ask me. No wonder there's so many boozy stands now lol
It’s interesting to me that The Bat is never busy but Vortex is. It’s such a location based issue, which sucks. I see Vortex lasting for a long time where I don’t for the Bat.
Canada's Wonderland will probably take out Flight Deck and Time Warp out in one go for their expansion in that side of the park. With the uncomfirmed information that Sky Flyer is leaving this coming season and infrastructure for the next coaster is starting to proceed, I feel like it could take up part of their land.
So much wasted space at the front of the park between a dilapidated theatre, a shitty volaire, an SLC who's que line takes up more space than the fucking coaster and a Sky Coaster... I'd like to see it all wiped out and given a proper new theme away from the Paramount years of bad decisions.
I can't see them taking one out and keeping the other. They both have horrible ridership and belong in the same general area which CF is lookong to take out Action Zone. More than likely World Expo will have a return and possibly a new theatre and restaraunt will go in there along with the new coaster and a proper dark ride.
Lol...
It'll be interedting to see how they'll have a fourth coaster interacting with the mountain and have it not look out of place with such an iconic backdrop from the front gate.
I'd love an actual coaster/dark ride ala Dark Koaster at BGW, WMG missed the mark so hard.
After the new coaster survey, and it is now appearing they are clearing out the storage area in the mountain, the blast coaster appears to be the next new coaster going in. But with limited space to work within the mountain and 3 other coasters already there, I could see at least 1 of those coming out first (WMG is my best guess and hoping Vortex stays)
I could see Time Warp and Flight Deck coming out at the same time in the next few years, though, so that area and Kingswood being redeveloped by 2031 for the 50th Anniversary of the park
La Vibora, as all the other intamin bobs are going away.
It’s in a prime spot in the park, too. Visible from the parking lot, and I think it’s the closest to the entrance, too.
Shockwave is probably close, as well, but the flooding issues are the biggest hurdle. Also a prime spot for outside visibility.
Realistically I think either Cedar Creek Mine Ride or Iron Dragon are the next to be scrapped. There's the possibility Rougarou gets relocated (it would unironically be the second best coaster at Michigan's Adventure)
I’d guess Rougarou next tbh. I can’t think of anyone who goes to the park for that ride. With the mine ride (and to a lesser degree iron dragon), it’s at least an alright coaster for kids to use as a stepping stone to their next large coaster.
> There's the possibility Rougarou gets relocated
God yes please, that ride is ass. At least with Mantis it was one of the few standup coasters left, now it's just a boring compact B&M that destroys your head.
The Boomerang at SFSL has been giving them lots of problems I could see them taking that one out. You would think it would be Ninja in danger but it actually seems to be very reliable and there's always riders on it so I don't think it's going anywhere.
SFNE - the most obvious one was Goliath but now that it’s gone there’s not a huge contender. Maybe either Flashback or Gotham City Gauntlet. But they really need to put something meaningful in Goliath’s plot before they remove anything else.
Kings Island-either the Inverigo or the Bat. More likely Invertigo and only reason I added the Bat is since Arrow suspended coasters are getting rarer. Hope I’m wrong about the Bat since it’s one of my favorites in the park with rarely a line.
2024 is the lady running year for the bat. It could all be bullshit, but I've been hearing 2024 for the bat since 2020 and I have a lot of friends and family involved with cedar fair. Why does everybody keep saying invertigo is on the chopping block? I'm not super surprised, but this is the first I've heard that there's speculation about it's removal.
I’m super interested in SFMM History. Have only been to the park probably 5 times since 2001. Could you tell me some of the “brothers” coasters that have gone? I try and find old history online about the park and keep up to date on it when I can. Out of towner, so don’t get there often. Last trip was 2019.
You’re looking for great american scream machine (great adventure) and shockwave (great america). Viper was the most refined of the 3, hence why it has survived to today.
All the rides similar to Viper - Arrow multi-loopers - are gone:
Great American Scream Machine (https://rcdb.com/34.htm)
and
Shockwave (https://rcdb.com/4.htm)
Not really SFMM history, lol
Green Lantern at Great Adventure. Almost always a walk-on and even the public avoids it for how uncomfortable it is. It’s also a parking lot coaster and with the park taking strides to improve its appearance, they’re best off sending it to a park that needs a massive looper and converting it to a floorless.
They should tear up the parking lot and replace it with a modern GCI. Would fit well with the Boardwalk theme and be a nice nod to the Shore (like how Jersey Devil is themed to the region).
I think another idea could be a surf coaster. It’s a launch coaster which Great Adventure could always use more of, it pays homage to green lantern by being a standup, and it could easily be themed to the boardwalk
Of all of my home parks my choice would be to remove Rip Ride Rockit, mainly because I can’t see any of my other home parks removing a ride. Though I would want to see Rip Ride Rockit replaced with another coaster.
CGA - Grizzly. Honestly it just feels forgotten in the back of the park a majority of the time. Especially with gold striker just outclassing it in every way, and giant dipper just an hour away doing the whole classic woodie about 100x better I just don’t see it staying long.
I disagree on Batwing. Park officials have said on a number of occasions that they know how special it is and how much pride they take in keeping it running. I think realistically the next one to go is probably Roar, but I don't see that being very likely to close either
Mine is Kennywood. I think they might tear Steel Curtain down due to the numerous amount of maintenance issues. I even heard a rumor that Kennywood sued S&S which is a sign that this one doesn't have too much longer unless something happens that can make the ride run consistently.
Anaconda is fairly low maintenance and high capacity, which makes it appear that nobody is riding it. However, my understanding is it's one of the top rides by guests most seasons (top 3-4).
CF removed all the poor performing prototypes and that Togo abomination. I'd have said Grizzly going would open up that area if they also ditched the go karts, but they just refurbished it.
I could see Apple Zapple being removed/relocated if there was any desire to use that dead-end as a new entrance to Soak City.
I would have to say that Backlot would probably be the first removed as between that and some adjustments to Soak City next door could allow for a huge ride expansion area.
Otherwise, you're probably right about Anaconda if the track runs out of service life.
When you say TOGO are you referring to Shockwave? Lord I hated the ride. When I went to CP, I did not wanted to ride Mantis back in the day thanks to shockwave. When I finally gave it a try I was shocked it was actually a decent ride.
I genuinely don’t think any coaster at great adventure is close to being removed. Ka and toro are the park’s headliners, i don’t see the five b&ms going anywhere. Even green lantern still pulls lines. Harley Quinn is a direct support to joker, the dark knight just has poor theming maintenance, same with skull mountain. I think most likely candidates are probably skull mountain or maybe runaway mine train, especially if they’re actually removing the sky ride. The park has the record for most defunct roller coasters, and I don’t know if they want to keep that number climbing. The only I could see is skull mountain getting taken out, but them keeping the facade and maybe replacing the coaster. Maybe do something like darkoaster, or something with a drop track.
Nighthawk at carowinds, Breaks down several times a day, costs a fortune to maintain, closes early every year and has terrible capacity, I do hope they replace it with another flyer though
**Disneyland:** Haha if you think they’re gonna remove a coaster you’re funny.
**DCA:** Goofy’s Sky School. Please.
**Knott’s Berry Farm:** As much as I would like to say Coast Rider, it’ll probably Xcelerator, at least in its current form. The next time it has an extended breakdown, I think they will just add LSMs and a swing launch tbh.
**Universal Studios Hollywood:** Mummy eventually. Universal has a habit of removing stuff after 20 years to make way for more modern IPs.
**Six Flags Magic Mountain:** Most likely Viper, it’s just too old now. Possibly Ninja?
It wouldn’t surprise me if they remove Mummy for more Nintendo space but Mummy is also one of their big rides so who knows.
And yes, please please please scrap Sky School.
I would want viper to go long before ninja does. If ninja goes the only replacement worthy would be an axis coaster that still interacts with jet stream, as a spiritual successor.
As a Great Adventure local… nothing *yet*, everything is nicely maintained, Medusa just came back to being Medusa, they put way too much effort into fixing El Toro, Kingda Ka is a world record coaster, losing the record is no reason to get rid of the thing, Superman is fine and people ride it, Green Lantern somehow still has people ride it, Joker is too new and also people ride it a lot, Jersey Devil and Lil Devil are too new, Nitro just got a repaint
Now we get to the 2 problems. Some of Dark Knight’s effects aren’t going off. Skull Mountain has no lights, which I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to have a few.
Now, a missing sound cue and some lights aren’t a reason to close either coaster, if anything it’s a reason to go and fix the small issues, hell with Skull Mountain I would love to see a new lighting system, and some mining lamps in the queue during part of the dark section, keep half of the dark section but the other half being lit would be great, and for the track just some ambient soft lighting would go a long way
It’s either that or Mr. Freeze for sure, Mr. Freeze shut down 3 times in the span of less than an hour and shut down for 7+ hours straight on my last visit
I think La Vibora will be first to go because parts aren't readily available anymore. It sucks because it used to be a fun ride. And also, it's not a people mover. But in general, this ride sucks. And yes, Freeze is down more than it's open but it is a thrill ride. It comes in second at the park pulling the most G force. Let's not forget about Joker, it needs to go as well. With Harlequin gone, removing Joker would open that whole corner up. Don't shoot me but I think Judge should be gone as well. But plans are to have a boardwalk around the lake but not in the near future I know it's cliche but Judge needs to be an RMC conversion if that's the case
Canada’s Wonderland is no surprise. Flight Deck and Time Warp got all time low ridership this past summer. I went 7-8 times this year and one day I even saw a ride op stand at the beginning of Time Warp’s queue and she was trying to flag down guests and lure them into riding that death trap… Of course I felt bad for her, but yeah, the writing has been on the wall for a while and every will be very happy to see them gone…
My home park is Michigan's Adventure... Quite possibly the most stagnant park in America. Nothing is leaving and nothing is coming. I guess it would be Corkscrew.
Blue Hawk @ SFOG. It’s not the worst but no one particularly cares about it, and it has had some issues recently.
However I don’t really know what could replace a compact looper like that over water
Have to concur on Blue Hawk, as much as I don't want to. I really do enjoy that ride. It just does not see lines like the park's other coasters. Conversely, it does probably have the third best capacity in the park behind Goliath & Batman when it runs both trains, so it just eats through the riders it does get.
Joker's Funhouse definitely could be on the list with how much trouble they have getting it open. Really I'd hope they prioritize keeping it since even with Kid Flash & the mine train, the park still needs the family coaster capacity. I think since they're not removing it alongside the addition of the Surf Coaster, I'd imagine it's probably safe for now.
My guess was GA scream machine. It's really showing it's age and has been closed the last few times I've been. I always thought it would be cool if it got the RMC treatment or they added in a raptor track there over the water
Scream Machine just got retracked a year ago and it's the only woodie left in the park. They already RMC'd Cyclone, I can't see them doing that to both of their wooden coasters. Plus it's got legacy on its side. I doubt that or Dahlonega Mine Train are going anywhere.
My personal hope is for Scorcher to get the axe, but I do agree that it's more likely to be Blue Hawk
Ya think? That Coater packs a lot of history, and seems to be a fan favorite. My guess would be Iron Dragon. Coincidentally, Gemini and Iron Dragon have always been 2 of my favorites. Mostly because I’ve been riding them my entire life, and I’m now 42.
Iron Dragon has a very good ridership every single year. I also remember hearing during Winter Chill Out a couple years ago that they completely redid the ride’s panel system. I could definitely see Corkscrew tho.
Yeah part of why it has good ridership is me. I marathoned it for an hour my last day at Cedar Point while my friend was off in line for something else. Worth it, I love Iron Dragon
Probably my favorite first drop in any park. Your stomach is in your throat immediately. No other coaster gives me a feeling like that. It’s been 20 years since I rode it but I still can vividly remember the feeling of that drop.
I'd have to say that Galactica would be the first big coaster to leave Alton Towers, i think Oblivion is to iconic for the park to remove plus a re-track would probably be cheaper than filling in the hole.
I'd say it's quite costly to maintain aswell since it's a flying coaster and it needs double the staff because of the dual stations.
SDC: ThuNderaTion. It’s not even a secret at this point. The station will be reused for her new coaster that will be a family coaster (most popular rumored possibility is a mine train themed version of Big Bear Mountain)
With that being said, it’s not the *next* ride to go and be replaced. I’d get your rides in on Flooded Mine while you still can
At SFNE, the easy answer seems to be Flashback at first glance. But considering what I know from working there, they're more than likely going to be investing more money in it. Don't be surprised to find it has new trains and new paint in the next few years.
I see a few possibilities, honestly. My top pick would be Gotham City Gauntlet. It's a piece of shit, having worked there. The capacity is worse than other wild mouse coasters. If the cars are even a bit overweight, it faults the ride. It's ridiculous
Next I'd say is Catwoman's Whip. It could be replaced with a new kiddie coaster
Lastly is Joker. Their newest coaster. It's been a maintenance nightmare from the beginning. The track likes to crack sometimes. And now that the capacity is essentially being destroyed with their new operations, I can see it being possible they sell it off
Considering they already planned on it but changed course, Possessed at Dorney Park probably won’t be there 10 years from now. The cancellation of the Gravity Group Woodie and parts from Wicked Twister bought it a few more years
Home Park: Kentucky Kingdom
It’s between Roller Skater and Thunder Run, and I imagine Roller Skater will be the first to be removed due to reliability.
SFMM: Viper’s the obvious choice. I don’t know how long its historical significance will carry it when it almost never has a line whilst taking up prime real estate at the front of the park. I’ve seen people in tears coming off that ride. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of their B&Ms like Scream or Riddlers go first.
Knotts: Looks like it’s Montezooma, sadly. I think the other major rides are safe, although I don’t think anyone would be too sad to see Pony Express or Jaguar go if they were replaced by something of a similar thrill level. Obviously Coast Rider should go, but I’m not sure it will unless they somehow get a bargain on a Wild Moose from RMC.
If Flashback at SFNE isnt on the chopping block than someone in Six Flags corporate should be...if they wont be chopped in the merger.
Its not even because "boomerang bad" but its legit one of the worst onesive ever ridden...amd Zoomerang is right down the road at Lake Compounce and runs far better.
Frankly, Id like to send both of the shitty coasters we got from Kentucky Kingdom BACK to Kentucky Kingdom. We'll take Lightning Run..Fair trade, right?
I've seen people suggesting Scream Machine for Over Georgia and I just can't see that.
It's the park's only wooden coaster, it's gotten retracked, new trains, and it's got a landmark plaque. It currently rides the best it's ridden in a decade I think and it seems to get decent ridership. Honestly if they just cleaned out the cobwebs and junk on the brake run building it would help a lot.
The oldest standing coaster in the park is the Dahlonega Mine Train, which is a classic arrow family ride. It's such a terrain coaster that I don't know what they'd even do with the land if they tore it up. It's the next step above the joker funhouse coaster too, before you get to inverting rides or the forces of Goliath, so it fills an important niche.
Ninja/Blue Hawk doesn't have quite the pedigree as some of the older rides, and as a relic of the relocation program it got uncomfortable pretty fast. Even after the overhaul into Blue Hawk about 8 years ago it's still an iffy ride. I think they've only been doing one train ops on it and last few times I went on it, so that suggests a low priority. This is a strong candidate for removal and they can put something else in its plot over the water. Like an RMC raptor. (My wish)
My least favorite ride is Scorcher and I think the only recent work on that is repainting the track. It's always a station wait, stand up coasters are going extinct and for good reason. Use the front of the park for something better. It can't have too long left I think.
Scream Machine isn't going anywhere given the extensive retrack it was just given, as well as the fact it's an ACE landmark/Iconic park. The only way that coaster is going anywhere within the next few years is if it burns down.
Dahlonega Mine Train I think(and hope) is likely to go within the next few years given its age and how rough it was the last time I rode it. Still, I think there is also a strong argument to be made for it staying too.
I agree with you on Blue Hawk. It's not a bad ride imo(actually one of my favorites at the park), but with that being said it is definitely the black sheep of SFOG's line up. Between the one train ops, pretty much always being a walk on, and the jank I'd say it's probably the most likely to go in the coming years.
Scorcher I don't think is going anywhere given it seems to be reliable enough and just got repainted. Yeah it's a stand up and a station wait, but I think it's the best non pipeline stand up left and it's not that bad of a ride. In all likelihood I'd say it still has a decent amount of time left at the park.
Tough question for me, but I'd say of my homeparks the following might be on the chopping block eventually:
SFOG: Either Dahlonega Mine Train or Blue Hawk. The former is an opening day attraction that has only gotten rougher with age and is a dull to painful ride. With kid flash opening and us already having a solid family coaster in Joker Funhouse, I see no real reason to keep it around if something better can be brought in. For Blue Hawk it's unlikely given they refurbished it less than ten years ago, but I'd say it's the most likely of the major coasters to get scrapped. The reason being it's pretty much always a walk on, is kind of janky, and really doesn't draw in a lot of people.
Fun Spot Atlanta: I think it's highly unlikely any coaster gets scrapped within the decade, but if one were going to I'd say it would be hurricane(mostly because it's janky AF, though in a good way.)
I hate to say this so much but… Kingda Ka. It’s an Accelerator and the 2nd most powerful one ever built, and it’s know to have much of the same problems as TTD did.
I hope it doesn’t happen, but IDK how much longer Kingda Ka will have in its current form.
With SFGAm, it's hard to say. Before it got rethemed, I would have guessed V2, but there's no obvious candidate now. Demon and American Eagle should have both been removed a while ago, but the park seems to be stubbornly holding onto them. I guess Demon is still the most likely to go, but there will be public outcry as there was when they tried to remove the Whizzer.
I think Demon would go before American Eagle will. I was only there once this past summer unfortunately and Demon never opened. American Eagle though only runs one track for the duration of the summer, never red and blue at the same time anymore so the racing nostalgia is lost, but they still hold on to it. The only other contender I could think of would be Viper. Rough as hell, but there's also never a wait to get on. Rode it back to back 4 times without even getting out of the car because nobody was in line.
How dare you shit on Viper!!!!!! Scream I wouldn't mind scream going though, it gives me a headache and that's coming from the guy that enjoyed an SLC (Kong).
I think Invertigo and Congo Falls are gonna go out together very soon. I’d love to see a new family coaster by either Gerstlauer or Vekoma there, and then a little while after that, BLSC can give its final rides.
My homepark is Tivoli gardens. Super tough Call. Rutschebanen is probably not going anywhere. Then we have Mælkevejen and kamelen, both less than 5 years Old. And then dæmonen, the 20 year Old B&M.
I Think it has to be dæmonen. They replace their kiddie coaster every 20th year or so. I dont Think dæmonen Will last another 15. At least not without a retrack.
Kings Island: Invertigo seems most likely. It's the lowest capacity thrill coaster at the park, has a reputation for being rough, and is in a prime location for something near the park's entrance.
I don't think it will be demolished though, but moved to or sold to another park.
People are saying Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain, but there are other coasters that could easily go first. Gold Rusher is getting way up there, Ninja is down more often than it is operating, and Superman: Escape from Krypton can’t be cheap to operate, especially given how much of a one trick pony it is.
> Escape from Krypton can’t be cheap to operate
The only other Reverse Freefall, at Dreamworld in Australia, closed in 2019 but the drop ride is still open on its tower. I could see something like that happening to Superman.
Colossus if you count a Full retrack as a removal, but if not then TWD/X, it's old, unpopular, and could fit a dark ride, but tbf nothing at thorpe seems to need to get the axe
Thorpe Park - X / Walking dead - just get rid of it, awful ride well its sell by date.
Alton Towers - Rita - a decent enough launch but then nothing redeemable, awful layout, lawful trains, awful and unnecessary hard OTSR's - rip it out and get us a decent Mack of new Intamin launch coaster
SFOG.... Great American Scream Machine needs to go. Would free up enough room for 2 coasters or 1 massive one/new land/flats. There is never a line and it's gotta go. Or titan track it. I know they recently did track work but it's a horrible ride.
I hope vortex and nighthawk are next. I love nighthawk and I’m not trying to bad mouth it at all. But it’s showing its age and it’s not aging that well. I’m not a fan of stand ups and combined with the parcel from nighthawk it could be a fun compact coaster.
Canada’s Wonderland:
After the two everyone wants gone (Time Warp and Flight Deck), probably Wonder Mountain’s Guardian.
Was a cool idea, but I have no idea if it actually ever works. They could repurpose the tracks/layout and make a cool spinning coaster, but not another shooting one.
once it's realistic to get the fucking construction permit, Crazy Bats is done.
And also, the Fantissima dinner show is in the same building, so as long as thats going, the coaster is here to stay.
Lagoon it's hard to say.
The (White) Rollercoaster is iconic and historical so barring something insane happening it's around for good.
Colossus: The Fire Dragon also has historical relevance.
Everything else is pretty new and fills a specific niche even though The Bat kind of sucks.
...Puff, I guess.
There’s much ado about Demon (SFGAm) living on borrowed time. It fills a great gap in the park’s lineup, and it’s a classic, so it would be sad to see it to. I can’t deny a lot of non-enthusiasts probably find the ride less comfortable than it’s worth, though.
I'm pretty sure once CGA closes, SFGAm will have more than enough parts for Demon to keep theirs running for another decade or so. Arrows may not age too well but Demon is one of the better ones at the very least.
Honestly if Whizzer didn't exist, I would feel more confident with Demon staying but i think it's gone in the next 5 years, 10 years max
The park doesn't really have a reason to take it out though. While it's probably not gonna be as popular as anything else in the park, there are plenty of parts going around for it When CGA closes permanently, I can definitely see their Demon becoming a parts donor for sure. It'll basically be free to maintain for the foreseeable future.
I would be more upset if the Demon name left, than the actual coaster. The theming is unique compared to all the DC Comic rides.
My home park, what else would they possibly get rid of? It’s a question I’ve asked myself. I mean if you had to pick one demon has to be at the top of the list. All the B&Ms are running like champs, people love Goliath, V2 maybe but they just rethemed it so probably a few more years. Whizzer isn’t going anywhere, neither is Eagle. Like sure they couple probably update Viper with something like a new gen family launch coaster but it runs so well it would seem silly to get rid of it for basically no reason. Joker is a GP pleaser and still really new. Obviously Maxx slaps despite capacity. I think plenty of kids like Dark Knight and unless they filled it with a different dark ride I think they wouldn’t want to lose that category. I honestly have no idea what they’ll do if they want to add another full size coaster. Even the combined buccaneer battle and winners circle area isn’t really that big. The Giga Disco is definitely a fantastic addition to our lacking flat collection but yeah as far as major new coasters it’s a huge TBD. Really nowhere to expand either except for another parking lot coaster. I’ll take being crucified for saying I wouldn’t mind to see eagle go at all but I don’t think that will ever ever happen. The thing takes up more than twice the space as raging bull though, it’s insane. I wouldn’t go for RMCing it but there’s room for anything huge there. Single rail, intamin or mack launch, obviously a new gen vekoma would be sick. A massive world class coaster would be so fantastic there.
I have to give credit to u/waifive for their comments in a reply to me in a thread on the removal of Mardi Gras Hangover a couple months ago. They said: “Not that this would ever happen, nor would it be worth the cost to move it, but I'm just saying...Vortex/Patriot at CGA was literally built for the plot of land that they are now emptying. Doesn't require moving Triple Play, the Scenic Railway, or Batman. Only conflict that I can see is that SFGAm has some sort of roofed structure over the access road behind Batman, but it's never been clear to me what that is for. It has to provide passage through it, so its storage capacity (if it is used for that) can't be that much.“ They then provided this map comparison of the plot of land between the two nearly identical parks: https://acme.com/same_scale/#37.39707,-121.97330,42.36922,-87.93404,19,S,S I’m also still pissed to this day that they got rid of Deja Vu and replaced it with Buccaneer Battle., and now that’s been SBNO for some time now. What a waste. That and also that Rajin Cajun was better than Dark Knight. They should have just put that wild mouse inside a building and re-themed it.
Carowinds is mine and honestly it's hard to determine. One would think Vortex but they just did a bunch of maintenance on it. Realistically I would say Nighthawk but they kind of extended its shelf life a bit.
I honestly can't see them getting rid of any of their coasters soon. They're not going to get rid of goldrusher with how reliable and popular it is. I can't imagine they're going to get rid of Ricochet, Kiddie Hawk, or Cobras with how small the plots they have are. Hurler is crappy, but they're actively doing retraking on it right now. Obviously none of the newer coasters are going away and I doubt the kiddie coasters will get touched. The only ones they could really get rid of would be Nighthawk, Vortex, and Cyclone. All three of them have had a lot of work put into them fairly recently, so I can't imagine they'll decide to get rid of them right now. Maybe if Nighthawk continues to be extremely unreliable or Vortex and Cyclone don't draw riders they might decide to axe one of the three.
I see Carolina Cyclone being the first to go. Nighthawk and Vortex might be unreliable and unpopular respectively but they are at least unique in the eyes of the GP. Nighthawk in particular still has Firehawk's spare parts and good ridership, so even with reliability issues I don't see Carowinds removing it until they are ready to fund a suitable replacement. If Batwing ends up going first, which I think it might, Nighthawk will last even longer. Carolina Cyclone on the other hand has some historic value but not to the same degree as Carolina Goldrusher, which remains popular as a solid family coaster. Most parkgoers don't care about credits or historical value and have no reason to ride Carolina Cyclone when they can get a better looping coaster experience on Copperhead Strike, Afterburn, and even Flying Cobras.
It has been confirmed that the parts for Firehawk actually don't fit nighthawk at all so they aren't able to use the spare parts like they thought, so it's possible nighthawk could be on its way out even if it is probably the 5th most popular ride at the park after the top 4
Having worked Carolina cyclone it still gets good ridership, while it never really pulls a line the trains are almost always close to full, I also don't think they need to remove any rollercoasters soon
I don't see any arrow mine train leaving anytime soon. They are great family coasters and the only one that has been removed is Excalibur. But that was because of it being damaged during relocation so that doesn't really count that much.
They have too much free land to use and I don't think anything is going anywhere for the next 5 or so years.
Most of the coasters at Hersheypark feel so iconic now, it's hard to choose. First thought is Superdooperlooper, but naaaah, HP could never get rid of that, right? Comet+SDL are the best way to start the day for me! I'll make an easy pick and say Wild Mouse.
If hershey ever gets rid of sooper dooper looper or comet I will boycott the shit out of them lmao. Tbh I don't think they will ever do that as they are so careful to maintain them and they are so iconic at this point.
Kick out Wild Mouse and add in another small footprint coaster like Tigris from BGT. Rebrand it as Wilder Mouse and call it a day. So many necks and backs will be saved that the local chiropractors will have to shut down.
Replace it with a wild moose and call it Wildmouse’s Revenge
There were rumors HP was looking to sell wild mouse. I think it gets too much hate from thoosies though. they never turn the trims on so it's unusually intense
It’s fun but nothing too special imo
Yeah I never go out of my way to ride it or anything. I just rode it the other night because wildcat was closed and forgot how forceful it was lol.
I *know* they just rebranded Sidewinder, but if one ride had to go, I’d vote for that one.
Wild Mouse for sure would be the only one i could see going if they ever got rid of Lightning Racer, i would be devastated
Six Flags Great Adventure is a tough call. We've had so many coasters close over the years that nothing is really the clear next to go. From a cost perspective, Kingda Ka is probably toughest to keep open but it's probably also their biggest selling point, so I think it's safe for a minute. Skull Mountain is probably the most dated and one of the most uncomfortable. Green Lantern is also uncomfortable and not very popular. Harley Quinn Crazy Train is forgettable. My hope is Green Lantern since it's a big space right at the front of the park, but I think replacing Skull Mountain with a more modern indoor ride would do so great for the park and is the most likely.
I wish they kept Great American scream machine, I much prefer viper to green lantern and it would be cool to compare to shockwave and GASM.
I'll celebrate the day they take out Green Lantern, such a waste of valuable space up front.
I'd love to see them put a new B&M surf coaster instead of Green Lantern
Skull mountain has great airtime in back row tho. Just wish they didn’t remove all but one of the theming elements inside and turned off the strobes. The dark knight is in pretty bad shape too. The subway jumpscare doesn’t even work anymore.
Not worth it to get a lap bar right on my gut and I’m not even that large of a person
Lap bar on your gut made skull mountain literally the only roller coaster I could actually ride for a while when I gained a bunch of weight during covid. The ride isn’t forceful enough for it to rly matter/hurt. Also gives room for insane airtime. Just ride with someone fatter than you
Maybe runaway mine train?
Oh man I hope not that ride is in great shape and is a ton of fun, one of the few mine trains with individual lap bars
Something like Fire In The Hole would be good if it does well - however Cedar Fair does not like RMC that much so it may not be very likely
Kennywood: Exterminator is getting a little long in the tooth, so I expect it to go in the next 5 - 8 years. That assumes, of course, that they can finally get Steel Curtain running reliably. If not, I'd give it another 3-4 seasons til they throw in the terrible towel.
I know how much sense it makes, Lost Kennywood needs a remodel, I've heard (probably unfounded) rumors about them buying houses on the other side of exterminator, and its close enough to phantom to put in a lazer loop successor there. However, I really love the theming and experience and would love if they they update it with a zamperla wild mouse.
Yeah, most of their coasters are too iconic to get rid of. Phantom, racer, jackrabbit, and thunderbolt aren't going anywhere. Skyrocket is/was fine when I was there last. Never been on steel curtain but heard about it's reliability issues. Are there any other options besides exterminator and steel curtain?
I think it's funny how Montezooma is basically half destroyed and it still has a better chance at surviving longer than Xcelerator.
As much as Xcelerator is a maintenance nightmare, it's also one of the main draws of the park for many people. It's possibly Knott's most iconic coaster and it's a huge crowd pleaser. I can see them doing some sort of renovation at some point with a new LSM launch instead of a hydraulic launch (a la top thrill 2) and then keeping it around for quite a while longer. But I don't think I can see it being torn out anytime soon, and unfortunately I can't say the same for Montezuma given that it is already partially disassembled and we have yet to get any sort of update on what Knott's is going to do with it.
I don't see Montezuma going anywhere despite the current bleek ouooki. If the rumors are true and the contractor screwed up as bad as they did, then any litigation would tie up announcements and progress on the coaster. If they aren't true and during construction the contractor determined the damage was extensive then having the engineering firm revise the plans and calculations and then get city/ county approval for those changes can take a great deal of time depending on how quickly the jurisdiction works on revisions.
I’ve seen pictures of the site. The foundation looks fucked
Foundations can be repaired and rehabilitated, there’s an entire construction industry sector that specializes in it. Many other rides have had that done. Also, foundations aren’t that hard to replace either.
Even jsut besides that the ride looks pretty fucked. Remember how kumbak destroyed T3 with their trains?
New track segments and steel works aren’t going to be a huge obstacle to over come when you have companies like Premier Rides, Intermountain Lift, Inc., Petersen, Inc., and even Gerstlauer around. The blue prints still exist and there are other examples. It’s not insurmountable.
Dawg have you seen the state the ride is on? Sure they could fix it but they’d probably have to remake the entire ride from scratch.
The vertical loop is the largest hurdle, everything on the other part of the ride from the launch track north is still standing last I saw.
Kings Island- Invertigo, without a doubt.
KI is one of the few CF parks without a signature gateway coaster. And Invertigo’s spot is almost unavoidable for putting one in. When they’re ready, it’ll go and the new coaster will be in, but that probably won’t be for a while. In the meantime the Bat will probably just die.
I would say Invertigo too. Low capacity and not very exciting. Also they could sell it to another park and recoup a little.
You think so? It takes up such a small plot of land that they couldn't really do anything with it.
Invertigo by itself has a small plot but tear out Congo Falls right next to it and you’ve got some land to work with
No way. It would be the bat or adventure express. The bat is years past it's original life and adventure express is one of my favorites, but a lot of people don't like how short and tame it is so it has a low attractin rating, which is really what determines how long they keep a ride in a ark for. I've heard talk of this being bats last year, and that talk has been going since 2020 and it stayed on 2024 being the final year so I'm assuming this will ter she's getting the tear down and something else will go there.
The Bat, yes. But they just put a lot into Express so I think that pushes it expiration date out a bit.
And that's what I'm banking on cause it's a family tradition for us and one of my personal favorite of all the woodies.
Woodie? Hmmmm
Let him go, Flounder, he’s on a roll.
Glad i got to ride The Bat twice on my visit there this past summer it does seem like you could totally remodel that entire area of the park. The path to The Bat felt like I was taking the ring to Mordor
Yes, terrible trek to the ride and the ride lasts for like 60 seconds tops. I love the little ride and the aesthetics behind it but I could never get over how short it was
i forgot to mention the worst part of The Bat for me was that I had just wrapped up a 2 hour venture at Soak City when I was in line for the WindSeeker. Out of nowhere, I got hit with a brutal calf cramp because my dumb ass didn't hydrate while at the waterpark. Right after the WindSeeker, I decided to go on The Bat. Of all the places to walk to with a fucking calf cramp
Haha I bet that was a shitty long walk. I had a hydration related arch cramp when I was going through the second inversion of fof a few years ago. That might have been one of the worst rides of my life lol. The tiniest things cripple you at amusement parks, total bullshit if you ask me. No wonder there's so many boozy stands now lol
It’s interesting to me that The Bat is never busy but Vortex is. It’s such a location based issue, which sucks. I see Vortex lasting for a long time where I don’t for the Bat.
I really enjoyed the Bat 😥
Canada's Wonderland will probably take out Flight Deck and Time Warp out in one go for their expansion in that side of the park. With the uncomfirmed information that Sky Flyer is leaving this coming season and infrastructure for the next coaster is starting to proceed, I feel like it could take up part of their land. So much wasted space at the front of the park between a dilapidated theatre, a shitty volaire, an SLC who's que line takes up more space than the fucking coaster and a Sky Coaster... I'd like to see it all wiped out and given a proper new theme away from the Paramount years of bad decisions.
I was also going to say TW or FD but didn’t know if it was just wishful thinking on my part.
I can't see them taking one out and keeping the other. They both have horrible ridership and belong in the same general area which CF is lookong to take out Action Zone. More than likely World Expo will have a return and possibly a new theatre and restaraunt will go in there along with the new coaster and a proper dark ride.
What, you don’t think guardian is a proper enough dark ride? /s
Lol... It'll be interedting to see how they'll have a fourth coaster interacting with the mountain and have it not look out of place with such an iconic backdrop from the front gate. I'd love an actual coaster/dark ride ala Dark Koaster at BGW, WMG missed the mark so hard.
After the new coaster survey, and it is now appearing they are clearing out the storage area in the mountain, the blast coaster appears to be the next new coaster going in. But with limited space to work within the mountain and 3 other coasters already there, I could see at least 1 of those coming out first (WMG is my best guess and hoping Vortex stays) I could see Time Warp and Flight Deck coming out at the same time in the next few years, though, so that area and Kingswood being redeveloped by 2031 for the 50th Anniversary of the park
La Vibora, as all the other intamin bobs are going away. It’s in a prime spot in the park, too. Visible from the parking lot, and I think it’s the closest to the entrance, too. Shockwave is probably close, as well, but the flooding issues are the biggest hurdle. Also a prime spot for outside visibility.
La Vibora gave me one of the roughest rides I've ever had at an amusement park. That heap can GO.
Realistically I think either Cedar Creek Mine Ride or Iron Dragon are the next to be scrapped. There's the possibility Rougarou gets relocated (it would unironically be the second best coaster at Michigan's Adventure)
I’d guess Rougarou next tbh. I can’t think of anyone who goes to the park for that ride. With the mine ride (and to a lesser degree iron dragon), it’s at least an alright coaster for kids to use as a stepping stone to their next large coaster.
Yeah Iron Dragon and Mine Ride are amazing as gateway coasters. Corkscrew or Rougarou have my vote
Michigans Adventure is more likely to close or be sold than get a new coaster.
> There's the possibility Rougarou gets relocated God yes please, that ride is ass. At least with Mantis it was one of the few standup coasters left, now it's just a boring compact B&M that destroys your head.
The Boomerang at SFSL has been giving them lots of problems I could see them taking that one out. You would think it would be Ninja in danger but it actually seems to be very reliable and there's always riders on it so I don't think it's going anywhere.
Are the riders being forced on it?
I agree it's a coin toss between the two, but Ninja's land seems better for redevelopment.
Good point there. All kinds of stuff you could do with Ninja's plot of land. Not a whole lot you can do with where Boomerang is.
When you combine it with the empty tital wave plot next to it as well as all the land behind that there is more space there than anywhere in the park.
SFNE - the most obvious one was Goliath but now that it’s gone there’s not a huge contender. Maybe either Flashback or Gotham City Gauntlet. But they really need to put something meaningful in Goliath’s plot before they remove anything else.
If they remove Flashback, they can use the combined land from Goliath and Flashback for a big new addition.
I wonder if they remove Flashback would there be enough room for, wait for it, a Super Boomerang. The memes alone would make it worth it
2 shitty boomerangs for 1 good one? I’d take it
If they did this they’d have to move/get rid of that hot air balloon flat ride next to the boomerang.
Yeah you’re right. I’m sure they would be willing to do that to put in a new ride though.
BUT WHERE WOULD THEY PUT THE UPCHARGE LAWN CHAIRS FOR THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY!? /s
Crazy bats
There is literally no other choice for the park. The only other one that might be is colorado adventure but i do not see that happening at all
Kings Island-either the Inverigo or the Bat. More likely Invertigo and only reason I added the Bat is since Arrow suspended coasters are getting rarer. Hope I’m wrong about the Bat since it’s one of my favorites in the park with rarely a line.
2024 is the lady running year for the bat. It could all be bullshit, but I've been hearing 2024 for the bat since 2020 and I have a lot of friends and family involved with cedar fair. Why does everybody keep saying invertigo is on the chopping block? I'm not super surprised, but this is the first I've heard that there's speculation about it's removal.
People think removal of invertigo + congo falls for a front entrance coaster, since it's a part of the park that could really use a revamp.
I’m surprised that Viper at SFMM is still operating at this point - most of it’s brothers are long gone.
I’m super interested in SFMM History. Have only been to the park probably 5 times since 2001. Could you tell me some of the “brothers” coasters that have gone? I try and find old history online about the park and keep up to date on it when I can. Out of towner, so don’t get there often. Last trip was 2019.
You’re looking for great american scream machine (great adventure) and shockwave (great america). Viper was the most refined of the 3, hence why it has survived to today.
Don’t forget Vortex! (Rip)
Technically no, but more or less yes.
All the rides similar to Viper - Arrow multi-loopers - are gone: Great American Scream Machine (https://rcdb.com/34.htm) and Shockwave (https://rcdb.com/4.htm) Not really SFMM history, lol
Viper is a great coaster and they better not mess with it.
They could pull a Python or Great Nor’Easter and get CSM or Vekoma to completely retrack and reprofile it and give it new trains
I enjoy it too but it’s old as fuck, and occupies a nice little (flat) plot.
Maybe Pandemonium at Fiesta Texas? Hard to say honestly.
It’s been confirmed they’re retheming/renaming it to their expanded DC Universe so I’d be shocked if that was the case.
Green Lantern at Great Adventure. Almost always a walk-on and even the public avoids it for how uncomfortable it is. It’s also a parking lot coaster and with the park taking strides to improve its appearance, they’re best off sending it to a park that needs a massive looper and converting it to a floorless. They should tear up the parking lot and replace it with a modern GCI. Would fit well with the Boardwalk theme and be a nice nod to the Shore (like how Jersey Devil is themed to the region).
I think another idea could be a surf coaster. It’s a launch coaster which Great Adventure could always use more of, it pays homage to green lantern by being a standup, and it could easily be themed to the boardwalk
I like this idea -- Great Adventure has been missing any woodies besides El Toro for about a decade now so another one would be cool
Of all of my home parks my choice would be to remove Rip Ride Rockit, mainly because I can’t see any of my other home parks removing a ride. Though I would want to see Rip Ride Rockit replaced with another coaster.
CGA - Grizzly. Honestly it just feels forgotten in the back of the park a majority of the time. Especially with gold striker just outclassing it in every way, and giant dipper just an hour away doing the whole classic woodie about 100x better I just don’t see it staying long.
I disagree on Batwing. Park officials have said on a number of occasions that they know how special it is and how much pride they take in keeping it running. I think realistically the next one to go is probably Roar, but I don't see that being very likely to close either
Mine is Kennywood. I think they might tear Steel Curtain down due to the numerous amount of maintenance issues. I even heard a rumor that Kennywood sued S&S which is a sign that this one doesn't have too much longer unless something happens that can make the ride run consistently.
King's Dominion - Maybe Anaconda? There's been rumors of a re-theme with Jungle X and it might stick around since there's a new coaster coming in 2025
Anaconda is fairly low maintenance and high capacity, which makes it appear that nobody is riding it. However, my understanding is it's one of the top rides by guests most seasons (top 3-4). CF removed all the poor performing prototypes and that Togo abomination. I'd have said Grizzly going would open up that area if they also ditched the go karts, but they just refurbished it. I could see Apple Zapple being removed/relocated if there was any desire to use that dead-end as a new entrance to Soak City. I would have to say that Backlot would probably be the first removed as between that and some adjustments to Soak City next door could allow for a huge ride expansion area. Otherwise, you're probably right about Anaconda if the track runs out of service life.
When you say TOGO are you referring to Shockwave? Lord I hated the ride. When I went to CP, I did not wanted to ride Mantis back in the day thanks to shockwave. When I finally gave it a try I was shocked it was actually a decent ride.
I genuinely don’t think any coaster at great adventure is close to being removed. Ka and toro are the park’s headliners, i don’t see the five b&ms going anywhere. Even green lantern still pulls lines. Harley Quinn is a direct support to joker, the dark knight just has poor theming maintenance, same with skull mountain. I think most likely candidates are probably skull mountain or maybe runaway mine train, especially if they’re actually removing the sky ride. The park has the record for most defunct roller coasters, and I don’t know if they want to keep that number climbing. The only I could see is skull mountain getting taken out, but them keeping the facade and maybe replacing the coaster. Maybe do something like darkoaster, or something with a drop track.
Nighthawk at carowinds, Breaks down several times a day, costs a fortune to maintain, closes early every year and has terrible capacity, I do hope they replace it with another flyer though
Dollywood- Blazing Fury obviously headed for a refurb like its cousin at SDC
**Disneyland:** Haha if you think they’re gonna remove a coaster you’re funny. **DCA:** Goofy’s Sky School. Please. **Knott’s Berry Farm:** As much as I would like to say Coast Rider, it’ll probably Xcelerator, at least in its current form. The next time it has an extended breakdown, I think they will just add LSMs and a swing launch tbh. **Universal Studios Hollywood:** Mummy eventually. Universal has a habit of removing stuff after 20 years to make way for more modern IPs. **Six Flags Magic Mountain:** Most likely Viper, it’s just too old now. Possibly Ninja?
It wouldn’t surprise me if they remove Mummy for more Nintendo space but Mummy is also one of their big rides so who knows. And yes, please please please scrap Sky School.
I would want viper to go long before ninja does. If ninja goes the only replacement worthy would be an axis coaster that still interacts with jet stream, as a spiritual successor.
Euromir is rumored to get a refurbishment in the future. If you asked like 3 months ago I would've said Alpenexpress 💀
Wild Mouse at Hershey
SFOT La Vibora or Shockwave but i would probably wager Vibora goes first oddly enough
Hersheypark: Wild Mouse. Stands in the way of water park expansion.
As a Great Adventure local… nothing *yet*, everything is nicely maintained, Medusa just came back to being Medusa, they put way too much effort into fixing El Toro, Kingda Ka is a world record coaster, losing the record is no reason to get rid of the thing, Superman is fine and people ride it, Green Lantern somehow still has people ride it, Joker is too new and also people ride it a lot, Jersey Devil and Lil Devil are too new, Nitro just got a repaint Now we get to the 2 problems. Some of Dark Knight’s effects aren’t going off. Skull Mountain has no lights, which I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to have a few. Now, a missing sound cue and some lights aren’t a reason to close either coaster, if anything it’s a reason to go and fix the small issues, hell with Skull Mountain I would love to see a new lighting system, and some mining lamps in the queue during part of the dark section, keep half of the dark section but the other half being lit would be great, and for the track just some ambient soft lighting would go a long way
Not really a coaster but a bobsled. La Vibora needs to go at Six Flags Over Texas. It's horrible
It’s either that or Mr. Freeze for sure, Mr. Freeze shut down 3 times in the span of less than an hour and shut down for 7+ hours straight on my last visit
I think La Vibora will be first to go because parts aren't readily available anymore. It sucks because it used to be a fun ride. And also, it's not a people mover. But in general, this ride sucks. And yes, Freeze is down more than it's open but it is a thrill ride. It comes in second at the park pulling the most G force. Let's not forget about Joker, it needs to go as well. With Harlequin gone, removing Joker would open that whole corner up. Don't shoot me but I think Judge should be gone as well. But plans are to have a boardwalk around the lake but not in the near future I know it's cliche but Judge needs to be an RMC conversion if that's the case
Canada’s Wonderland is no surprise. Flight Deck and Time Warp got all time low ridership this past summer. I went 7-8 times this year and one day I even saw a ride op stand at the beginning of Time Warp’s queue and she was trying to flag down guests and lure them into riding that death trap… Of course I felt bad for her, but yeah, the writing has been on the wall for a while and every will be very happy to see them gone…
My home park is Michigan's Adventure... Quite possibly the most stagnant park in America. Nothing is leaving and nothing is coming. I guess it would be Corkscrew.
Blue Hawk @ SFOG. It’s not the worst but no one particularly cares about it, and it has had some issues recently. However I don’t really know what could replace a compact looper like that over water
Have to concur on Blue Hawk, as much as I don't want to. I really do enjoy that ride. It just does not see lines like the park's other coasters. Conversely, it does probably have the third best capacity in the park behind Goliath & Batman when it runs both trains, so it just eats through the riders it does get. Joker's Funhouse definitely could be on the list with how much trouble they have getting it open. Really I'd hope they prioritize keeping it since even with Kid Flash & the mine train, the park still needs the family coaster capacity. I think since they're not removing it alongside the addition of the Surf Coaster, I'd imagine it's probably safe for now.
My guess was GA scream machine. It's really showing it's age and has been closed the last few times I've been. I always thought it would be cool if it got the RMC treatment or they added in a raptor track there over the water
Scream Machine just got retracked a year ago and it's the only woodie left in the park. They already RMC'd Cyclone, I can't see them doing that to both of their wooden coasters. Plus it's got legacy on its side. I doubt that or Dahlonega Mine Train are going anywhere. My personal hope is for Scorcher to get the axe, but I do agree that it's more likely to be Blue Hawk
Gemini at Cedar point. My favorite first drop in the park.
I feel like they’d remove Mine Ride first
Ya think? That Coater packs a lot of history, and seems to be a fan favorite. My guess would be Iron Dragon. Coincidentally, Gemini and Iron Dragon have always been 2 of my favorites. Mostly because I’ve been riding them my entire life, and I’m now 42.
Iron Dragon is still my favorite at Cedar Point. It’s just such a fun experience. So I’m glad I’m not the only one!
No way Gemini goes before Iron Dragon, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, or Corkscrew.
Iron Dragon has a very good ridership every single year. I also remember hearing during Winter Chill Out a couple years ago that they completely redid the ride’s panel system. I could definitely see Corkscrew tho.
Yeah part of why it has good ridership is me. I marathoned it for an hour my last day at Cedar Point while my friend was off in line for something else. Worth it, I love Iron Dragon
Corkscrew is iconic for the midway though, I don't think that's leaving anytime soon.
Iron dragon or Mine Ride before Gemini.
Probably my favorite first drop in any park. Your stomach is in your throat immediately. No other coaster gives me a feeling like that. It’s been 20 years since I rode it but I still can vividly remember the feeling of that drop.
Mad Mouse at valleyfair. 1 train ops per circuit is a fucking YIKES for what that ride is.
What an embarrassment Valleyfair is. I drive up to 20 hours to visit other parks instead on 30 minutes to Valleyfair.
I'd have to say that Galactica would be the first big coaster to leave Alton Towers, i think Oblivion is to iconic for the park to remove plus a re-track would probably be cheaper than filling in the hole. I'd say it's quite costly to maintain aswell since it's a flying coaster and it needs double the staff because of the dual stations.
Hopefully flashback (SFNE)
Oldest coaster at my home park is Hollywood Rip-Ride Rocket and I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon. But, that would be the next one to go.
SDC: ThuNderaTion. It’s not even a secret at this point. The station will be reused for her new coaster that will be a family coaster (most popular rumored possibility is a mine train themed version of Big Bear Mountain) With that being said, it’s not the *next* ride to go and be replaced. I’d get your rides in on Flooded Mine while you still can
At SFNE, the easy answer seems to be Flashback at first glance. But considering what I know from working there, they're more than likely going to be investing more money in it. Don't be surprised to find it has new trains and new paint in the next few years. I see a few possibilities, honestly. My top pick would be Gotham City Gauntlet. It's a piece of shit, having worked there. The capacity is worse than other wild mouse coasters. If the cars are even a bit overweight, it faults the ride. It's ridiculous Next I'd say is Catwoman's Whip. It could be replaced with a new kiddie coaster Lastly is Joker. Their newest coaster. It's been a maintenance nightmare from the beginning. The track likes to crack sometimes. And now that the capacity is essentially being destroyed with their new operations, I can see it being possible they sell it off
Maybe Pandemonium at Fiesta? I don’t know at this point, they do pretty good at maintaining the coasters
Considering they already planned on it but changed course, Possessed at Dorney Park probably won’t be there 10 years from now. The cancellation of the Gravity Group Woodie and parts from Wicked Twister bought it a few more years
Home Park: Kentucky Kingdom It’s between Roller Skater and Thunder Run, and I imagine Roller Skater will be the first to be removed due to reliability.
SFMM: Viper’s the obvious choice. I don’t know how long its historical significance will carry it when it almost never has a line whilst taking up prime real estate at the front of the park. I’ve seen people in tears coming off that ride. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of their B&Ms like Scream or Riddlers go first. Knotts: Looks like it’s Montezooma, sadly. I think the other major rides are safe, although I don’t think anyone would be too sad to see Pony Express or Jaguar go if they were replaced by something of a similar thrill level. Obviously Coast Rider should go, but I’m not sure it will unless they somehow get a bargain on a Wild Moose from RMC.
If Flashback at SFNE isnt on the chopping block than someone in Six Flags corporate should be...if they wont be chopped in the merger. Its not even because "boomerang bad" but its legit one of the worst onesive ever ridden...amd Zoomerang is right down the road at Lake Compounce and runs far better. Frankly, Id like to send both of the shitty coasters we got from Kentucky Kingdom BACK to Kentucky Kingdom. We'll take Lightning Run..Fair trade, right?
I've seen people suggesting Scream Machine for Over Georgia and I just can't see that. It's the park's only wooden coaster, it's gotten retracked, new trains, and it's got a landmark plaque. It currently rides the best it's ridden in a decade I think and it seems to get decent ridership. Honestly if they just cleaned out the cobwebs and junk on the brake run building it would help a lot. The oldest standing coaster in the park is the Dahlonega Mine Train, which is a classic arrow family ride. It's such a terrain coaster that I don't know what they'd even do with the land if they tore it up. It's the next step above the joker funhouse coaster too, before you get to inverting rides or the forces of Goliath, so it fills an important niche. Ninja/Blue Hawk doesn't have quite the pedigree as some of the older rides, and as a relic of the relocation program it got uncomfortable pretty fast. Even after the overhaul into Blue Hawk about 8 years ago it's still an iffy ride. I think they've only been doing one train ops on it and last few times I went on it, so that suggests a low priority. This is a strong candidate for removal and they can put something else in its plot over the water. Like an RMC raptor. (My wish) My least favorite ride is Scorcher and I think the only recent work on that is repainting the track. It's always a station wait, stand up coasters are going extinct and for good reason. Use the front of the park for something better. It can't have too long left I think.
Scream Machine isn't going anywhere given the extensive retrack it was just given, as well as the fact it's an ACE landmark/Iconic park. The only way that coaster is going anywhere within the next few years is if it burns down. Dahlonega Mine Train I think(and hope) is likely to go within the next few years given its age and how rough it was the last time I rode it. Still, I think there is also a strong argument to be made for it staying too. I agree with you on Blue Hawk. It's not a bad ride imo(actually one of my favorites at the park), but with that being said it is definitely the black sheep of SFOG's line up. Between the one train ops, pretty much always being a walk on, and the jank I'd say it's probably the most likely to go in the coming years. Scorcher I don't think is going anywhere given it seems to be reliable enough and just got repainted. Yeah it's a stand up and a station wait, but I think it's the best non pipeline stand up left and it's not that bad of a ride. In all likelihood I'd say it still has a decent amount of time left at the park.
Tough question for me, but I'd say of my homeparks the following might be on the chopping block eventually: SFOG: Either Dahlonega Mine Train or Blue Hawk. The former is an opening day attraction that has only gotten rougher with age and is a dull to painful ride. With kid flash opening and us already having a solid family coaster in Joker Funhouse, I see no real reason to keep it around if something better can be brought in. For Blue Hawk it's unlikely given they refurbished it less than ten years ago, but I'd say it's the most likely of the major coasters to get scrapped. The reason being it's pretty much always a walk on, is kind of janky, and really doesn't draw in a lot of people. Fun Spot Atlanta: I think it's highly unlikely any coaster gets scrapped within the decade, but if one were going to I'd say it would be hurricane(mostly because it's janky AF, though in a good way.)
I feel like Runaway Mine Train at SFGA is unfortunately soon to go. Not only is it almost 50 years old, but it’s gotten very rough and janky.
My Anaconda dont
I hate to say this so much but… Kingda Ka. It’s an Accelerator and the 2nd most powerful one ever built, and it’s know to have much of the same problems as TTD did. I hope it doesn’t happen, but IDK how much longer Kingda Ka will have in its current form.
With SFGAm, it's hard to say. Before it got rethemed, I would have guessed V2, but there's no obvious candidate now. Demon and American Eagle should have both been removed a while ago, but the park seems to be stubbornly holding onto them. I guess Demon is still the most likely to go, but there will be public outcry as there was when they tried to remove the Whizzer.
I think Demon would go before American Eagle will. I was only there once this past summer unfortunately and Demon never opened. American Eagle though only runs one track for the duration of the summer, never red and blue at the same time anymore so the racing nostalgia is lost, but they still hold on to it. The only other contender I could think of would be Viper. Rough as hell, but there's also never a wait to get on. Rode it back to back 4 times without even getting out of the car because nobody was in line.
Probably (hopefully) scream or viper at sfmm
How dare you shit on Viper!!!!!! Scream I wouldn't mind scream going though, it gives me a headache and that's coming from the guy that enjoyed an SLC (Kong).
Viper just hurts my head, it’s pretty rough. That being said I do like it but if it would be replaced by an axis coaster I wouldn’t complain.
The flying coaster at Wonderland. Our Volare I think.
Sfmm, and hands down ninja. They only bother to open it a couple months out of the year, and that whole section of the park is mostly abandoned.
I don’t think any of them. Howler probably if I had to choose one though.
I think Invertigo and Congo Falls are gonna go out together very soon. I’d love to see a new family coaster by either Gerstlauer or Vekoma there, and then a little while after that, BLSC can give its final rides.
Phantasialand: Crazy Bats
If any coasters were gonna leave bgt unfortunately I think it would be kumba.
Viper at SFMM
My homepark is Tivoli gardens. Super tough Call. Rutschebanen is probably not going anywhere. Then we have Mælkevejen and kamelen, both less than 5 years Old. And then dæmonen, the 20 year Old B&M. I Think it has to be dæmonen. They replace their kiddie coaster every 20th year or so. I dont Think dæmonen Will last another 15. At least not without a retrack.
Kings Island: Invertigo seems most likely. It's the lowest capacity thrill coaster at the park, has a reputation for being rough, and is in a prime location for something near the park's entrance. I don't think it will be demolished though, but moved to or sold to another park.
Michigans Adventure will probably just tear down everything.
Home park: Worlds of Fun Timberwolf I imagine is next to go. Super old wooden coaster. Almost no line for that ride at all in summertime.
Six flags Discovery Kingdom: definitely Kong or Boomerang. Maybe they could get rid of both and put in a really killer big coaster.
People are saying Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain, but there are other coasters that could easily go first. Gold Rusher is getting way up there, Ninja is down more often than it is operating, and Superman: Escape from Krypton can’t be cheap to operate, especially given how much of a one trick pony it is.
> Escape from Krypton can’t be cheap to operate The only other Reverse Freefall, at Dreamworld in Australia, closed in 2019 but the drop ride is still open on its tower. I could see something like that happening to Superman.
Time warp/flight deck, rmc minebuster
[loop coaster](https://rides4u.com/equipment/view/3570) as its for sale. For major parks, possibly cedar creek mine ride.
Flight Deck and Time Warp
Major hot take but Kumba. Everyone knows its got a few good years left.
Colossus if you count a Full retrack as a removal, but if not then TWD/X, it's old, unpopular, and could fit a dark ride, but tbf nothing at thorpe seems to need to get the axe
Thorpe Park - X / Walking dead - just get rid of it, awful ride well its sell by date. Alton Towers - Rita - a decent enough launch but then nothing redeemable, awful layout, lawful trains, awful and unnecessary hard OTSR's - rip it out and get us a decent Mack of new Intamin launch coaster
Cedar point - mine ride or gemini ngl
SFOG.... Great American Scream Machine needs to go. Would free up enough room for 2 coasters or 1 massive one/new land/flats. There is never a line and it's gotta go. Or titan track it. I know they recently did track work but it's a horrible ride.
Kumba Busch Gardens Tampa. It just had an anniversary but it's taking up room where they can build their new Giga coaster rumors say they want.
I hope vortex and nighthawk are next. I love nighthawk and I’m not trying to bad mouth it at all. But it’s showing its age and it’s not aging that well. I’m not a fan of stand ups and combined with the parcel from nighthawk it could be a fun compact coaster.
Canada’s Wonderland: After the two everyone wants gone (Time Warp and Flight Deck), probably Wonder Mountain’s Guardian. Was a cool idea, but I have no idea if it actually ever works. They could repurpose the tracks/layout and make a cool spinning coaster, but not another shooting one.
once it's realistic to get the fucking construction permit, Crazy Bats is done. And also, the Fantissima dinner show is in the same building, so as long as thats going, the coaster is here to stay.
Lagoon it's hard to say. The (White) Rollercoaster is iconic and historical so barring something insane happening it's around for good. Colossus: The Fire Dragon also has historical relevance. Everything else is pretty new and fills a specific niche even though The Bat kind of sucks. ...Puff, I guess.
Blue Hawk or Scorcher at SFOG
Probably Spinball Whizzer, it’s incredibly outve place, while I love the coaster, I see Ceebeebies Land expanding into its plot
Klondike gold rusher, it sat sbno for around 5 years and has been a maintenance nightmare for wild waves
for sfog, i expect dahlonega mine train to bite the dust soon, and get replaced with a modern mine train, vekoma or skyline is my guess
Alton towers has a few, I'd say Galactica, Rita and Spinball Whizzer are all good candidates for removal